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Yea the Skybreakers in general seem like the weird ones where it seems like external factors determine if they're ready/able to swear the next oath instead of all the orders where we have PoV characters struggle internally to reach their next Ideal.

I think it would be weird if Szeth swore the 4th and 5th Ideal in the same book, but I guess there's precedent with him swearing the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd in OB.

I second this. I was alternating between audio and ebook throughout my first read and it was hard not thinking of The Sibling as female with Kate Reading narrating. Even in the few instances where Kaladin spoke directly to her and Michael Kramer was doing the narration, The Sibling sounded vaguely feminine. But, it's obvious from how the Stormfather and Brandon say they/them that The Sibling isn't supposed to have a gender. I'm just curious to see whatever Syl referred to as having four genders. Also, I have no problems with the whole singular they/them thing IRL or in books, people do it all the time without realizing it.

This would fit better if Radiant was Chris(blond hair) Shallan was Lois(red hair) and Veil was Peter(I think Veil had black Alethi hair, but close enough).

I glossed past the quote, that is indeed what I was thinking of.

I don't have the quote, but I think the Stormfather told Dalinar at some point in OB that Honor had told the Radiants they would destroy Roshar like they did Ashyn. There was also something about how he told them that instead of assuring them that they wouldn't destroy the planet like he had previous generations.

I already said I'm not sure one way or the other. I was hoping someone would tell me either what they mean by "worthy" or why they believe she's unworthy. All I got was "you gotta prove what it takes" which is excessively vague. If that's all I'm going to get, I don't really think we're having a productive conversation so I guess I'll leave it here.

And thus far you have yet to prove your claim.

First you're not addressing the right question. It was posited "she is not worthy of the powers of a Bondsmith." I'm not entirely certain she has the title of Bondsmith, we only saw her swear the First Ideal, which doesn't explicitly make you a Knight. Like I said, this thread has been focused on her worthiness as a scholar, but being a scholar isn't what makes someone worthy to be a Bondsmith. So, what does? And why? Simply stating that she isn't doesn't make it true.

I feel like everyone in this thread is razor focused on Anti-Voidlight and ignoring the elephant in the room - The Rhythm of War. Gavilar didn't have a sphere with Warlight in it and Raboniel didn't believe that Stormlight and Voidlight could mix. Navani was the driving force behind that discovery; she has worth as a scholar. I also feel that her perceived worth as a scholar has nothing to do with what was posited. Is she worthy of Bondsmith powers? The only thing I can really think of that might answer that is how her actions fit the Oaths of that Order. For example, Kaladin is extremely driven to protect people and is very effective at it, which makes him the archetypal Windrunner. So is Navani's goal in life to unite instead of divide? Offhand, I'm not sure, someone would need to do a deep dive analyzing her choices and actions. I'd say she isn't interested in dividing people at the very least. But, I can't say she's as driven to unite people as much as Dalinar is. As such, I have doubts she'll make it past the Third Ideal.

Interludes do a number of things and it's kinda hard to explain which ones are actually important to the story without going into spoiler territory. Some just show a perspective on something important but isn't from the viewpoint of a person that is important. Some are the reverse, unimportant events from a character who will be important later. And of course important events seen by important characters also happens(i.e. Szeth in WoK). Some seemingly are unimportant events from a character who seems unimportant as well, but we can't really be sure of that until the series is complete. Like others suggest, I will also suggest reading all of them so you don't miss anything important rather than the risk of being confused by something you missed by skipping ones you don't feel interested in. I will also say that the interludes get less separated from the story the further into the series you get.

This seems to be referring to the Mistborn trilogy(Brandon doesn't have any other trilogies finished in the Cosmere even now). There were certain things that were odd that an observant read could notice. The mist spirit nearly killing Elend is kind of odd when you look back on it without the knowledge in Secret History that it was Kelsier's dumb idea to do that. There's the instance where Kelsier influenced Vin's instincts that is just explained in HoA as "Vin had a strong unexplained instinct to not interact with Hoid." Also, when Vin is absorbing all of the Mists in the end, she hears what seems like Kelsier telling her about the Mists. At the point in time Brandon is answering this question(2015), I'm pretty sure he's referring to these moments that we didn't have the full story on, because we hadn't seen them from Kelsier's perspective. The questioner went in an Odium direction, but Brandon never explicitly tied those answers with his previous statement. I'm not saying that precludes Odium from having influence on some stuff in Mistborn, but I don't think it's to the extent one could be lead to believe if you take that WoB at face value. Especially because it's before Secret History was released.

I think it's important to note that the second WoB is before Secret History was released, which is likely some of the background stuff he's referring to that people didn't really understand at the time.

I believe the perspective of the Soulcaster is also important. For example, in Mistborn when someone burns A-Steal or A-Iron they see metal objects connected to themselves with blue lines. If they try hard enough, they can perceive individual pieces of metal in objects like when Wax pushes a specific part of a bullet. Most people on Roshar probably don't understand that air is really a lot of small objects instead of one planet encompassing object. But, Jasnah knows this and is able to perceive the air as pieces of oxygen which likely makes it easier to influence with Soulcasting.

I'll be honest, there's an argument there, but I don't personally believe it and don't want to play devil's advocate on that one. Though, on a different note, a convoluted legal process probably sounds like fun to Nale.

I mean that depends on how you define winning, I'd say it's more that they survived each desolation. And at some point they started losing more than they were able to rebuild before the next one. The question here isn't if the humans were losing, it's how they were losing with what appear to be better circumstances than the current Radiants.

If I had to guess, I'd say the main reason humans were slowly being eradicated is because of the Singer's unique attributes that would allow them to recover from the Desolations better than humans. Singers have much more control over birth rates through regulation of mate form. Singers also mature at an earlier age than humans, so any efforts to repopulate are going to work quicker on average compared to humans. They also can switch their populace to work form to rebuild infrastructure. Humans on the other hand likely have a lengthier courting and mating process and need education/training before they'd be effective at rebuilding society. So, by the time Aharietiam happened, I'd guess the Singers outnumbered humans. While Heralds and upper tier Knights were extremely formidable, they can't fight a war with a serious disadvantage in numbers. Especially when the other side had Fused and Unmade who cancelled out the Heralds and Knights to a certain degree.

I don't think he had a goal. I think he wanted to go taunt Rayse because he believed he was protected from anything he could do. I think Taravangian was the one who made the mistake here. First, he acted out of character and Hoid began to suspect something. He then covered it up by erasing the recent memory. I think Hoid is going to discover that fact which will lead him to figure out what happened to Rayse and who Odium is now. But, I think it will be too late to warn Dalinar that Odium is not who he thinks he is.

I don't specifically know, but it might be due to the graphic novel sample that was also included in the US version. It's possible they weren't able to come to an agreement with whoever is publishing those in Britain and couldn't use any of the other White Sand stuff either pursuant to the contract they have with that publisher. Or they couldn't get the graphic novel sample for the aforementioned reasons and didn't want the only thing in there to be the unpublished version. The biggest loss there for you is the Taldain essay and star chart. The graphic novel can't be translated to audiobook and the unpublished version isn't the canon version, so maybe they just cut the entire section.

Couple of things to note here. This is supposed to be Szeth's book unless Brandon decides to change it up on us again, so I'd say the Shinovar plotline will be the main one, though that doesn't necessarily mean most of the characters will end up there. Recall that Urithiru is going to be the place where the contest of champions will take place, so in the end everyone will likely converge there. I'm not saying it isn't possible for Shallan and Adolin's party to converge with Kaladin and Szeth, but it isn't guaranteed. Also, I don't recall getting the impression that Dalinar wasn't joining Kaladin and Szeth as well, he seemed pretty intent on having access to Ishar's knowledge asap. Though if Dalinar doesn't join them, it's possible after Szeth resolves his issues with his people and they find Ishar, they just take the Oathgate back to Urithiru before the contest of champions.

It's in the agreement he and Rayse made. If Dalinar's champion loses, he becomes a Fused. It wasn't an implied thing like "if you lose you'll serve me like the Fused do."

I like Moelach because the deathrattles are such an interesting part of The Way of Kings and it's cool to see plotlines Brandon planned well in advance being in plain sight.

I could honestly see it. The Herald sometimes known as Ishi and Melishi being the same person sounds very Brandon.

I feel like I remember something about Ruin not being able to delete things like that wholesale, only change them. But it's been a while since I read Era 1 so I'm not 100% on that.

Those parts weren't in the version Sazed first read. IIRC, he didn't have time to read much of it on the metal slab. Marsh rushed him out of there, likely prompted by ruin, and Sazed only had his rubbing which had been altered by Ruin.