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Why does Autonomy offer to let Harmony invest someplace else? Is Scadrial itself useful in some way? Would she just be happy to have an Avatar there, or is it more? Since the planet was actually made by two shards, maybe it would generate a stronger Avatar or something along those lines. Or was Scadrial too close to Taldain physically/cognitively, so Autonomy depended that Harmony move to another sphere of influence?

I know right? She would let Sazed leave the planet but doesn't demand his shards or powers? Maybe Scadrial is too close to Taldain?

I wonder if Trell is still around? Is he still an Avatar on Scadrial, or did he get diposed in favour of Telsin? Is Tell waiting with the armies?

Kelsier becoming the avatar and then betraying Autonomy would be an interesting twist. I wonder if Autonomy would be able to revoke powers? Seems difficult based on her intent, and also in semi-foreshadowed as a problem when we saw Odium and his people.

Agreed, very far fetched. Unless there is some advantage against Autonomy if Wayne does not know what he can do? Maybe it blocks future sight or something?

I wonder if Wayne snapped again (first time?) at the end of Bands? When Wax died Wayne went full crazy. To me that looks a lot like a snapping and reminds me a lot of what happened with Kelsier and Kelsier's wife. We know changes were made to how snapping works, but we haven't actually seen a snap occur as far as I can tell, right? Maybe in this new world it is easier to get a single power without a snap needed, but snapping is still required to make a full Mistborn? Or even maybe Feruchemist now?

Considering the book is called the Lost Metal and not The Lost Metals, it kind of feels like we will get access to this excess ruin/atium by books-end.

This could potentially just refer to Odium, unfortunately. This WOB is from 2015, but Oathbringer came out in 2017. I am not sure if we knew about "Passion" and the struggles going on there with Odium and Rayse in 2015. If I were to pick a shard fighting their intent, I would say Autonomy. Something very very strange seems to be going on there. Autonomy seems to be meddling with other shards, taking over investiture, being an isolationist on its own world, and in general not letting other shards e very autonomous. It kind of feels like that shard is bending a bit strangely in how it is being actualized, IMO

It does seem like he is aware of the theory enough to make jokes about it. It also seems quite cheeky about the Stormfaker/Stormfather in my opinion.

Well didn't Preservation take the extra Ruin and turn it into the metal reserves? Wouldn't it make sense for Harmony to utilize the same tactic? Harmony could take the extra ruin and place it in the metal in a similar way, but temper it with some Preservation.

I saw on Reddit someone suggesting there will be more Atium than Larasium in Ettmetal, so when you pull it apart you are left with having all the Larasium destroyed, and then a tiny bit of Atium. For meta plot reasons, this makes a lot of sense.

This article may do a better job than I ever could: https://coppermind.net/wiki/Dawnshard

Chanarach is a red-headed Herald. Here is a link to the Shallan is the child of a herald theory. This theory came out before Rhythm of war, but it has been updated to include information from Rhythm of War. DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU HAVE NOT READ RHYTHM OF WAR

Yes, totally possible he saw the cognitive realm spren watching Shallan or could feel something of Odium corrupting her soul in some way. it is also possible breaking a bond as a child left some sort of mark on Shallan. Or perhaps he could sense the shard blade she had as a child? So unclear. We have no idea if Hoid can tell this with everyone though. Like, not all Spren are visible and there seems to be a huge range of which spren are detectable and how "loud" certain surges are. For example, Shallan could use her magic in occupied Kolinar because her magic was much quieter, but a Windrunner would immediately be detected. Would Hoid have a harder time detecting a Lightweaver than a Windrunner? And what about the fact Shallan was no longer actively bonded to a Cryptic? And we have no idea if any magic systems can detect Spren in the Cognitive realm. Can Hoid dip his head into the Cognitive like a Lightweaver can? Could an Allomancer detect a Spren in the Cognitive if there is no active bond?

No Rhythm of War Spoilers Ahead: The question of how Hoid knew child-Shallan had talked to spren is extremely interesting. Hoid does use allomancy from Mistobron and has access to breaths from Warbreaker, and other off world magic, so the question is not really "how" he saw anything, but what there even was to see about Shallan at the festival. Hoid also knows she faces an unnatural darkness in her home, so what is that all about? Is that something he could sense about Shallan, or something he knew from Shallan's eldest brother? Shallan did not have an active bond to a spren at the time she met Messenger Hoid, so what did Hoid see? She doesn't bond Pattern until WoK so she shouldn't have an active bond at that time. There still isn't a great explanation for what Hoid saw, but he may have been able to see her childhood broken bond or seen the Spren that were hovering around Shallan before she went and bonded again in TWoK. But still, that isn't entirely clear. Hoid seemed VERY surprised to see what he saw. My theory was that Hoid could see that Shallan was Chanarach's child or parthenogenetic offspring. It would mean that meaning that Hoid recognized Chanarach in Shallan, but that is not confirmed or anything. Rhythm of War does give a potential answer, but it is far far from clear. It is unclear how any new lore from that book would mean Hoid saw something about Shallan. It certainly is possible, but unclear.

I am not sure that is the case. For example, the Singers were on Roshar before the shattering. So there are at least some linguistic groups unrelated to Yolen. If we have 1, there are probably others. We do have Fain life, dragons, bug people, spren, etc. And there may have been other worlds with human people pre-shattering as well. They may have been entirely untreated language families. Adonalium seemed to be interested in creating pockets of populations, so maybe there were more human pockets. As well, we have planets and people created by Shards and we can't be 100% sure what happened there in terms on language creation. It is for sure possible that the shards just took Yolen languages and gave them to the people, but we can't be sure that is what happened.

Either way, someone in the story is likely "possessed/controlled/replaced". Does anyone stand out as suspicious? I suggested that VebDell makes the most sense. He is a new Kandra appointed, people don't know too well, and it kind of acerbic/obstructive to begin with. MeiLaan coming back replaced would also work - and Wayne being the one to catch it.

Thanks for finding this quote that the the nega-kandra can indeed shape shift. Who knows if their eyes are always red and/or if there is some way to hide the eye colour. One would assume that the mention of nega-Kandra would mean they show up in the plot of The Lost Metal. A Nega-Kandra impersonating a Kandra would just make so much sense.

We had these introduced in previous books but I haven’t seen any discussion of them. I think we can be pretty sure that someone has been replaced, but I wonder who we think it might be? My guess is VenDell as it would be a surpaient callback to era 1 “who is the Kandra” plot lines.

Well, the wording here is odd. Is it "couldn't" as it is not possible in any way and that it physically couldn't happen ever under any circumstance?Or Brandon might mean that a Returned couldn't use their breath for a command because the Returned would die (and that would be bad so no one would do it) I know using a divine breath for a basic command would kill a returned, but that doesn't mean someone wouldn't eventually try it despite the consequences. Since the exact exact same consequences exist for a returned using their divine breath to heal, I don't discount it based on the consequences thing.

As a similar question, what if you use a divine breath to give a regular command? First off, can you? And second off, what would happen?

To some of us the "ium" in the name is evidence Adonalsium manifested as a "metal" on Yolen. Whatever killed him/her/it seems to have splintered the metal into the shards. Some ideas I have seen are that aluminum/Ralkalest is the dead body of Adonalsium. The fact the metal has two names may be a hint that something is up there. I have seen others argument for silver.

Agreed. Most Powerful isn't the same as most versatile or most deadly. For example, stealth might be more useful that all out flare. Or longevity may be more useful than glass cannon power. How much does portability play into it? It is hard to say. But if I average these, Awakening seems to be the best.

I think a big question in Breaths. There are a lot of things to consider: We still don't really know what the God King can do. He is clearly extremely invested and there may be no "limit" to it with ample supply. What else can a divine breath do? How much art-based future-sight is possible with training and intention? Are other future-sights possible? To what extent are thing like Nightblood considered the "the strongest". Awakening can create sentient life which is very very useful. What are the non-awakening powers/uses? (memory storage and deletion for example). What other commands are there besides physical manipulation of objects? What do the Tears of Edgli do? Are there amplification effects when using them? What are the limits on shapeshifting? What about the Divine Locks? Are other things possible? Could these lineage endowments be expanded? Breath can be given to anyone and used anywhere which is very powerful Breaths can grant ageless-immortality AND has built-in ways to prevent immortality-insanity How might breaths effect other magic systems? So I feel Breaths might be the strongest IF someone gets a hold of a heck of a lot of them and has the knowledge to utilize them correctly. Unlike other magic systems, most people don't innately know what to do with their breaths and breaths seems to have only been "a thing" for 500 years.

Interesting thought. It also made me think of Vendetta (Cultivation of anger)