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Big Site Update coming on October 21st


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After our last major site update all the way back in 2016, we're excited to announce that we'll be updating the forums and everything else to the latest available version of the platform we run on. We picked Saturday, October 21, as the big migration day. This means there will be some disruptions in service you'll have to expect on that day, but we will do our best to get the site back online as fast as possible.

At 06:00 UTC (2am Eastern Time, 11pm Pacific Time) on October 21, we'll be putting the site in "Offline Mode", which means regular users won't be able to use it from that point onward. In the background, we'll be performing a move to an entirely new server to host the site so we can modernize and clean up the environment everything runs in. We estimate this migration to take several hours as we'll have to perform some manual steps as well - plus, you all talk a lot on our forums, so there's lots of data to copy! As soon as all that's done, we'll flip the switch and allow you back into our gates.

Immediate Changes

The update will not be purely technical in nature. The most obvious change will be a new design that you'll see all across the site. We unfortunately won't be able to bring over the existing theme to the new version as there have been a lot of changes to the underlying software in the meantime and it's unfortunately not sustainable to customize the look and feel as much as we did for the current version. Regardless, we made some changes to give the site some character and to hopefully make the move ever so slightly less jarring. In order for you to get an impression of what the updated version looks like, here's a sneak peek of our homepage when you're logged in:

View of the new 17th Shard homepage

The topic view will also change a fair amount with an at-a-glance overview of some interesting statistics about the topic in the sidebar:

Preview of new topic view

Another change is that custom member titles have moved a little bit in the user interface. They will be a regular profile field, but everything else about them should stay the same!

Planned and Potential Changes

You'll also notice in the topic screenshot above that the regular upvote button is gone! Instead, the new forum version allows us to define custom reactions! We'll keep this limited to an "upvote" reaction for now, but will definitely be exploring this and several other new features in the future:

  • Additional reactions that might affect reputation differently
  • Achievements for performing certain actions, e.g. posting enough or having very successful posts
    • These can also be rewarded with fancy badges that show up on your profile page!
  • Updated Social Connections: While some of our older members might still remember ICQ or MSN, we hear that these aren't as hip with the kids anymore, so we'll likely be updating those to reflect the current social media landscape
  • Pronouns Profile Field: Asking for gender (sex, really) in your profile is kind of outdated and unnecessary for the most part, so we'll be replacing this with a pronouns field that should prove more useful and allows for many more options
  • Dark Theme: With the move to a less customized default theme and thanks to advancements in how configurable a theme is, it will be much easier for us to hopefully introduce this at some point

We can't give any concrete timelines on any of these and won't promise we'll implement all of them, but with everything else up-to-date, we should be able to iterate on new things a lot more!

Future Update Schedule

We aim to track updates of the software we use much more closely in the future, which will likely mean an increase in the update frequency. Rather than performing a big disruptive update every few years, there will be more minor and gradual rollouts of new versions. This is very much in the spirit of the books, as I think a wise man once thought

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The most important update a site can make. It’s not the first one, is it?

It’s the next one. Always the next update, 17th Shard.

 

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46 minutes ago, Paleo said:

It's going to take somewhere between 2 and 4 hours, but might also take longer if there's some unexpected complications. I didn't want to give any concrete estimate because while we tested this all ahead of time, this is a huge step and we can't say for certain whether everything goes a smoothly as we want it to.

Okay thats cool too. Thanks.

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That looks cool,! Finally dark mode is coming!

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The darkness becomes a palace. Let it rule! Let it rule! 

 

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3 hours ago, The flying spider said:

what a present for my birthday!!!:wub:

WE HAVE THE SAME BIRTHDAY!

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On 13/10/2023 at 10:28 AM, CalanoCorvus said:

DARK MODE PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF ADONALSIUM

But if you do dark mode, please have light mode still as an option. My eyes don't dark mode.

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9 hours ago, Argent said:

For anyone curious about the new features, you can read through the changelog of the last ~60 version upgrades on Invision's website

Tysm

13 hours ago, The flying spider said:

what a present for my birthday!!!:wub:

What a present for my birthday if it was also on that day and not like a month ago :(

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Kajsa

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AAAH FINALLY NORMAL EMOJIS I LOVE THIS THANK YOU

Edited by Kajsa :)

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Cinnamon

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Will BBcode still work with this update? I may have been dreaming since I can’t seem to find it anywhere but I think I remember seeing something about bbcode being removed? :ph34r: 

additionally; *happy dance of excitement*

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Scudding spelling :P

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On 10/14/2023 at 6:30 PM, Cinnamon said:

Will BBcode still work with this update? I may have been dreaming since I can’t seem to find it anywhere but I think I remember seeing something about bbcode being removed? :ph34r: 

additionally; *happy dance of excitement*

Currently, BBCode can still work, but Invision does say: "BBCode support is deprecated and may be removed in a future release". We can enable it if people want for now, but this likely won't be permanent.

4 hours ago, ΨιτιsτηεΒέsτ said:

So there will be updated contact info. 
Will there be any removed?

Yes, many of the old things are totally irrelevant in 2023.

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5 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Currently, BBCode can still work, but Invision does say: "BBCode support is deprecated and may be removed in a future release". We can enable it if people want for now, but this likely won't be permanent.

Yes, many of the old things are totally irrelevant in 2023.

So the contents of those boxes will get deleted? So I should save the quotes and stuff I have gathered in them if I understand correctly.

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5 minutes ago, ΨιτιsτηεΒέsτ said:

So the contents of those boxes will get deleted? So I should save the quotes and stuff I have gathered in them if I understand correctly.

Correct; these were never designed for the joke content people are using them for, so that's up to you!

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3 hours ago, Chaos said:

Currently, BBCode can still work, but Invision does say: "BBCode support is deprecated and may be removed in a future release". We can enable it if people want for now, but this likely won't be permanent.

Personally, I use it a bunch, especially on mobile, and would love it to stay enabled but I can’t speak for everyone else. :) Thanks Chaos!

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Will there be an option to disable account (like discord) or outright delete it entirely avalible to the owner?

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10 hours ago, Cinnamon said:

Personally, I use it a bunch, especially on mobile, and would love it to stay enabled but I can’t speak for everyone else. :) Thanks Chaos!

I know a lot of people use font colors for this. On mobile, less options is probably better than more, sadly. Also, with dark mode coming, people will need to be aware font colors could be completely unreadable in one or both of the modes. I know it is common to use them in the RP section, but keep this in mind.

Also note, it's not our choice if Invision removes the functionality!

8 hours ago, Aeoryi said:

Will there be an option to disable account (like discord) or outright delete it entirely avalible to the owner?

Yes.

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On 10/12/2023 at 6:11 PM, ΨιτιsτηεΒέsτ said:

Will there be new reputation levels?

Yoki-hijo? 

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2 hours ago, Canada Lover said:

Was there an app for this before the update?

We will likely never have the bandwidth to produce an app for multiple platforms, sorry! That's a huge ask. There is not a real mobile app, but you can put a link on your home screen.

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21 minutes ago, Chaos said:

We will likely never have the bandwidth to produce an app for multiple platforms, sorry! That's a huge ask. There is not a real mobile app, but you can put a link on your home screen.

No, I was asking, because my phone has an app for it after this update, and it's not just a widget.

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27 minutes ago, Canada Lover said:

No, I was asking, because my phone has an app for it after this update, and it's not just a widget.

That's literally just a web wrapper and is exactly the same as opening it in Chrome. Just the extra web browser stuff is hidden.

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9 minutes ago, Chaos said:

That's literally just a web wrapper and is exactly the same as opening it in Chrome. Just the extra web browser stuff is hidden.

Oh, sorry!

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I just thought of this. Is it possible that sometime we could get the capability to quote Status Updates?

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