Necessary Eagle she/her Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 I came here to join the discussion that was surely happening about the released prologue, and I surprised to see there wasn't one. Am I looking in the wrong forum? Are we not supposed to talk about it yet because Spoilers? Or is the Shard just going through a real slow couple of days? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejarden he/him Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, Necessary Eagle said: I came here to join the discussion that was surely happening about the released prologue, and I surprised to see there wasn't one. Am I looking in the wrong forum? Are we not supposed to talk about it yet because Spoilers? Or is the Shard just going through a real slow couple of days? I’m pretty sure you can discuss it if you put it under a spoiler though I’m not sure… And the Shard is really going through a slow period, yes w&w4 spoilers Spoiler There’s also not that much to discuss 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mage he/him Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 We could talk about it here... Lost Metal Spoiler Spoiler The prologue didn't really spoil anything except for itself, but it was still so good. TBH I almost cried at the end when Wayne's mom died. It definitely needs polishing, but the concept is there and gives so much insight into Wayne's character. I know this probably wouldn't work out in the timeline, but it would have been cool/ironic if Wayne's mom had told him a story about Wax. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Invocation Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 How did I miss this happening? Where did it come from? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless he/him Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) To those wondering, here's a link: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/472/#e14863 Assuming all of the names weren't made-up, a river in the land of Koloss named Human is a pretty nostalgic nod. Edited July 21, 2021 by Honorless 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marukka Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 49 minutes ago, Honorless said: To those wondering, here's a link: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/472/#e14863 Assuming all of the names weren't made-up, a river in the land of Koloss named Human is a pretty nostalgic nod. Thank you! I can't give you enough upvotes for that... I really would have missed it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Oltux72 he/him Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 11 hours ago, Bejardin1250 said: I’m pretty sure you can discuss it if you put it under a spoiler though I’m not sure… And the Shard is really going through a slow period, yes w&w4 spoilers Reveal hidden contents There’s also not that much to discuss Spoiler What? Allomancer Jak was active twenty years before Era 2 the Terris stuff in Wayne comes from his father's side There are Terris mine workers in the Roughs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejarden he/him Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, Oltux72 said: Hide contents What? Allomancer Jak was active twenty years before Era 2 the Terris stuff in Wayne comes from his father's side There are Terris mine workers in the Roughs Spoiler Like I said-not that much its interesting stuff but it’s hard to discuss since you covered it all right there 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 she/her Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Bejardin1250 said: Hide contents Like I said-not that much its interesting stuff but it’s hard to discuss since you covered it all right there Spoiler The Allomancer Jak timeline is the big one. He’s been active for more than 20 years pre-AoL. Long enough that he’s not ‘young’ when Ma tells the story. There’s something off with his timeline - and we already know he knows more than he should. His stories hint at too many secrets. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Oltux72 he/him Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Kingsdaughter613 said: Hide contents The Allomancer Jak timeline is the big one. He’s been active for more than 20 years pre-AoL. Long enough that he’s not ‘young’ when Ma tells the story. There’s something off with his timeline - and we already know he knows more than he should. His stories hint at too many secrets. Spoiler OK, playing the devil's advocate here. How sure are we that the Jak writing for the broadsheets is "Allomancer Jak" of legends? Is it possible that he took the name of a legendary figure? In fact, is his name really "Jak"? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 she/her Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 21 minutes ago, Oltux72 said: Hide contents OK, playing the devil's advocate here. How sure are we that the Jak writing for the broadsheets is "Allomancer Jak" of legends? Is it possible that he took the name of a legendary figure? In fact, is his name really "Jak"? Spoiler We don’t. I actually think the Jak story is the most important part of the prologue. Note that Jak is known to be a tineye, but Ma describes him as a Mistborn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejarden he/him Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, Kingsdaughter613 said: Hide contents We don’t. I actually think the Jak story is the most important part of the prologue. Note that Jak is known to be a tineye, but Ma describes him as a Mistborn. Spoiler A lot of other things seem weird in the story too: like the bad guy turning into a Mesa I assume Ma made the entire story up including the fact he was a Mistborn, which would lower his age in AOL since he could have gained fame quickly while young 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Invocation Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 I love Tiny Wayne. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Oltux72 he/him Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 6 hours ago, Bejardin1250 said: Hide contents Like I said-not that much its interesting stuff but it’s hard to discuss since you covered it all right there Spoiler Why would a Terrisman work in a mine? And why would the Terris leave his family destitute? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathiau he/him Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Oltux72 said: Reveal hidden contents Why would a Terrisman work in a mine? And why would the Terris leave his family destitute? Spoiler Why does anyone works in a mine? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mage he/him Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 12 hours ago, Oltux72 said: Hide contents What? Allomancer Jak was active twenty years before Era 2 the Terris stuff in Wayne comes from his father's side There are Terris mine workers in the Roughs Spoiler On your first and third points I am just as puzzled as you, but we did know that Wayne's father was a Terrisman and a Feruchemist. I don't know the specific citation, but off a hunch I think he mentions it somewhere in BoM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duladen he/him Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/21/2021 at 10:39 AM, Oltux72 said: Hide contents OK, playing the devil's advocate here. How sure are we that the Jak writing for the broadsheets is "Allomancer Jak" of legends? Is it possible that he took the name of a legendary figure? In fact, is his name really "Jak"? Spoiler The Dread Pirate Jakberts 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason Wheeler Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Wow, I've missed Wayne! It's good to see more of him, even if it's only a bit... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy92 Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Spoiler “Why’s it always three in stories, ma?” Wayne asked. “Three bandits. Three guns. Three mines.” …a third Shard on Scadrial? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathiau he/him Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Andy92 said: Hide contents “Why’s it always three in stories, ma?” Wayne asked. “Three bandits. Three guns. Three mines.” …a third Shard on Scadrial? Spoiler It's confirmed there's currently on Ruin and Preservation there, for now. Edited July 24, 2021 by mathiau 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halyo_Alex he/him Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 4 hours ago, mathiau said: Spoiler Uh... Trell? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathiau he/him Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Halyo_Alex said: Hide contents Uh... Trell? Quote Not on Scadrial, just attacking it from a distance 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of nowhere Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 Spoiler Jak must be quite old, if he was famous already 20 years before the current time. He must be close to retiring. I wonder if we'll see him on screen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necessary Eagle she/her Posted July 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 whoops, started a thread and then forgot to check in on it for nearly a week. But yeah, the points that I was going to to mention have already been, well, mentioned: Spoiler the River Human and Jak's weird age thing. So I'll just let out a joyful screech of anticipation and leave it at that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isilel Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) On 26.7.2021 at 2:25 AM, king of nowhere said: Hide contents Jak must be quite old, if he was famous already 20 years before the current time. He must be close to retiring. Spoiler Not necessarily that old. Billy the Kid died at 21 and Jesse James became famous/notorious in his mid-twenties. As long as the press popularized such exploits, it didn't take long to become a celebrity. Jak could be only a few years older than Wax. BTW, if Wayne's dad was a Ferring, it is rather odd that he hadn't been able to find a better employment. Did he have a relatively useless metal? And what would have motivated not one, but two Terrismen to move into such a hellhole anyway? At least, Sanderson has a 11-year-old Wayne doing some work. It was so weird in the otherwise grimdark first Mistborn series with all the slavery, rape and murder when suddenly Vin could pass as "too young for the mills" at 16, ditto Spook being "too young for the mines" at 14, when a casual look at certain 19th century literature and history shows that the "too young" age for such work was about 7. A very nice tidbit anyway. Edited July 28, 2021 by Isilel 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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