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Kelsier was very definite about hemalurgy not working to give him allomancy in his PoV in TLM. He must have already tried some things with it. Quite a few things, knowing him.

I have wondered about Mother Frond in IoTE. She has been described rather similarly to Cultivation's Vessel's human form, as seen by Dalinar, IIRC and seemed to be rather mysterious. Whether it was just a coincidence, whether she is still Cultivation or merely a sliver, I guess we'll have to wait and see.

The advertisement was for a Slider cook, though, not just a Slider. She very rarely had a reason to use her cadmium and it is a slow-burning metal, as opposed to bendalloy, which is fast-burning. Even once she had allomantic grenades, she needed to burn very little to prime them. Wayne was able to use bendalloy frivolously only once he secretly became very rich himself. Even so, he wasn't doing it for hours every day, as the advertisement says a Slider cook would have to. I also doubt that anyone would chose to age much quicker than their contemporaries, unless they were extremely generously compensated or utterly desperate. You are undoubtedly right, which is why it sticks out like a sore thumb. I wish that Sanderson (and Stewart? I think that he was responsible for the broadsheets) hadn't decided to compromise the integrity of the setting for an obscure joke. In any case, this means that the advertisement exists to break the fourth wall and isn't meant to be taken seriously.

This advertisement makes zero sense and Sanderson should have caught the discrepancy. Sliders are very rare. Finding one that was also a decent enough cook to do it professionally would have been like winning at lottery. Bendalloy is so expensive during the Era 2, that even once Wax became the lord of his House, he could only provide Wayne with smallish amounts of it, enough for minutes, not hours. Finally a slider is literally burning their own lifetime when they burn - they'd need to be extremely well payed to do this continuously. I could imagine the richest businesses being able to afford having them burn for hours at a time during particularly sensitive periods. But some restaurant, while also requiring them to work, as well as burn? It contradicts everything that we were able to observe from Wax and Wayne. Likewise, Steel Ferrings are also very rare and a bad choice for speedy food delivery, because they need to spend so much time storing that speed. Coinshots or just mundane bicycle messengers would have been much more effective, not to mention actually affordable. I would have liked for Our Heroes to see Coinshots zipping around, like the broadsheets keep complaining about, Lurcher construction workers building the skyscrapers, etc. when moving through the city, instead of it always being just Wax and maybe some antagonist. He did meet one(!) Coinshot messenger on page in SoS and she wasn't even jumping through the city at the time. Settings where only heroes and villains have powers and only use them to fight are a dime a dozen. Scadrial is supposed to be different and I want to finally see it front and center.

Why is it depressing, though? One of my pet peeves with Era 2 was that we saw almost no casual use of Metallic Arts for non-combat purposes, or by people who were neither protagonists nor antagonists. They really should have been more integrated into overall worldbuilding, even taking into account their relative rarity, which I also didn't expect, given that after mist-snapping at the end of Era 1, the amount of Metal born in the overall population increased significantly. Most Pewterarms wouldn't want to be warriors anyway. Well, as an upside, imagine the fashion of wearing hats not going away as a result of having to protect against emotional allomancy! Hats were awesome. A-hem. Anyway, another mundane, but very beneficial use for emotional allomancy could be helping people concentrate on learning or work. Imagine a Soother librarian at a University library, for example... As to the thread question, I would take pewter allomancy over tin one, but if tin Feruchemy was in the running, I'd certainly pick that. It can be so beneficial both storing and tapping and also very versatile, if the user is sufficiently creative.

Hemalurgy is Ruin's art everywhere, not just on Scadrial. And Scadrians have most Ruin in their make-up of all cosmere humans, so they probably could get the most out of hemalurgy to begin with. Even they could only take that many spikes back in the day due to Ruin's active influence due to him constantly pushing on his prison and then breaking out, though. So, trying it on another planet isn't going to make it more effective. We don't actually know this. Since harmonium explodes when coming in contact with water, it is likely that nobody has successfully burned it yet.

An accessory that would allow for quick switching between medallions: An aluminium bracelet with a number of medallions set into it, with a movable inner part with a window that allows just a single one of them to touch skin at a time. Frankly, I expected the Ghostbloods in TLM to already possess something along these lines and was disappointed and confused that they didn't. Or used any medallions at all.

If Ghostblood interference on other worlds looks anything like what they did on Roshar, not likely. Some of it was due to Iyatil going off the rails, sure, but most of it was at Kelsier's direction. He was helping Gavilar bring back the Desolations, he ordered a kidnapping/murder of a Herald, he had some unsavoury plans for Ba-Ado-Mishram (Iyatil and Co had their own plans on top of that), he wanted the Ghostbloods to grab Urithiru and it's Oathgates for themselves and prevent anyone else from finding it, etc. There is no proof yet, but I, for one, am convinced that Axindweth was working for Kelsier when she gave Ulim to Venli. Kelsier was not just willing to let Roshar burn, but was actively pouring oil on the fire. In the name of protecting Scadrial, of course. Except that all of it actually helped put Scadrial in more danger in the end. I see no reason to think that Rosharans would steal the limelight in the Ghostbloods trilogy. Sanderson wouldn't want to spoil what's going on there ahead of the second half of Stormlight Archive and there is more than enough to learn about the Mawlish, Autonomy etc. Re: certain Rosharan characters being able to convince people, they literally have supernatural abilities that help them do it. Kelsier used Breeze for the same purpose, BTW. We have no idea how Jasnah's attempts at reforming society are going to play out either, so it is rather premature to compare her with Elend. Though, given her greater experience and historical knowledge, it would be very plausible for her to do better.

It is odd that this wasn't more common even under TLR, honestly. There are plenty of mentions of poor noblewomen becoming mistresses of men who could support them or even working in brothels. And chances of them having allomancer children should have been much more favourable.

I am pretty sure that it is mentioned somewhere, either in the text itself or in a WoB that women in Straff's harem weren't skaa, but poor nobles. Nobles in Mistborn weren't just the rich and the powerful, but also just personally free people who had to work for a living, after all. That's who both Kelsier's and Vin's mothers pretended to be. Personally, I always thought that the Final Empire should have had a class of free people between the nobles and the skaa, like all societies had iRL. Nobles weren't forced into monogamy either, they were just forbidden to breed with the skaa. It seems like it was something that had been allowed at some point in the past, since Lord Cett attributed relative lack of allomancy in his family to "too much skaa blood", but something motivated TLR to go nuclear on it. Concerning the news in general - I am in the minority of not being enthused, particularly since Sanderson apparently wants to be a showrunner, if a Stormlight show gets off the ground. I have really enjoyed the steady flow of cosmere books and hoped that Sanderson being able to concentrate on the Ghostbloods trilogy and write it in one piece would allow him to make it something special. Now he is going to be endlessly distracted. It doesn't help that nothing seems to be happening with the possible cosmere collaborations with other writers, which might have filled the void, somewhat...

Szeth obeying a holder of his Oathstone had always been contingent on him being wrong about the upcoming Desolation and return of the Radiants. Taravangian was very aware of it, which is why he lied to Szeth about Kaladin having a stolen honorblade after their first clash. Throwing away the Oathstone after the arrival of the Everstorm was wholly according to the tenets in which Szeth had been raised Iriali aren't Ashynites, they are a separate people, who move from world to world on their Long Trail. IIRC, Roshar was their fourth. We don't know when they got to Roshar, but it must have been at some later date, since there hadn't been any among Ashynite refugees in the scene of their arrival. In fact, there aren't any hints of their presence in any visions of the past that we have seen until possibly the False Desolation, where some Radiants looked like they might have been Riran.

Nothing on the substance of my argument that you condemn Rosharan humans for the same things that you praise First Era Scadrians for? But about child labor - you are wrong, children worked in mines since time immemorial: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/s/5wHsCeWHFw Not to mention that Final Empire was frozen at about the stage of early industrial revolution, but without firearms, which is why they had mills in the sense of factories, which Vin pretended to be too young to be of age to work at, as a teenager(!). Not sure what you are on about health and better conditions during the industrial revolution, which both declined catastrophically iRL. They only began to improve towards the late 19th century. Nor do I understand why you think that enslaved children iRL led lives of leisurely idelness at any point in history, like Spook seems to have done and Vin pretended to. Apprenticeships throughout the ages also commonly started at the age of 7. Until obligatory schooling was introduced, that is. This inconsistency with the grimmer aspects of FE worldbuilding stuck out like a sore thumb to me from my first read. And it was a missed opportunity to have Spook be a proper skaa, with the requisite life experience.

I was disappointed by the lack of personal magic among the Scadrians in IotE. I thought that cosmere was moving towards democratisation of magic and it's widespread availability through gadgets and maybe synthetic, victimless hemalurgy hinted at in TLM, but there was nothing of that in the book. Hopefully, because Sanderson was keeping things back for intervening eras in a somewhat contrived fashion, but it has me worried. At the same time I do think that both Mistborn and Radiants were rather overpowered and the former would be even more so with additional metals. I also would really like some golden middle. Like, maybe a handful of abilities combined in interesting ways, rather than all 16, and at least somewhat achievable without winning a genetic lottery, or being a mass murderer. As to the Radiants, I would have wished them to be less unkillable to begin with. At this point I can only wonder how Odium's forces were ever a significant threat to them in the past, leave alone to the Heralds. I guess that now availability of the investiture will become the hard limiter. P.S. Speaking of Era 2, I was surprised and disappointed that 16% of everyone getting mist-snapped didn't result in every tenth northern Scadrian in Era 2 being a misting. I'd really like to see a society with widespread use of investiture in daily life. I am more interested in creative and skilled use of magic, rather than superheroes and supervillains just overpowering everyone except each other by default. But that's what we got again with Wax and Wayne, only at a lower power level, sigh.

No, his uncle had three. I imagine that most trappers have more than one, since a mind-shielder is non-negotiable for survival on and around those islands.

So, there is something that I wanted to point out - you are being very inconsistent, IMHO. On one hand, you admire Scadrians for following Preservation's plan and praise "thy will be done" stance vis-a-vis gods. Yet here, when Rosharan humans followed a direct command of their god - it is _them_ whom you call treacherous, not the supposedly benevolent honorable(heh) god whom they have obeyed. That's the problem with "thy will be done" - it is only as good as a given god's plan. You also continue to blame humans for the Recreance, when we now know that Radiant spren had initially offered the powers and bonds entirely of their own volition and on their own initiative, that the decision to break oaths was mutual and again made because Honor suddenly told them, in no uncertain terms that these powers were going to destroy Roshar! They couldn't really survive there, though at that point in time. The whole thing is rather reminiscent of the fall of the Roman Empire to the Goths, who were also given "refuge", but denied means to support themselves, so that they were forced to sell their children into slavery for food. Eventually they rebelled and the rest is history. We don't yet know who betrayed whom first. Didn't Leshwi say "they (i.e. spren) have finally forgiven us" or something along these lines, when she learned about Venli and Timbre? As to Ashyn, while humans weren't blameless, again you blame them exclusively, when the lion's share of responsibility belonged to the gods involved. As I have already pointed out earlier in the thread, I wholly agree with you about singers not being given enough focus and dislike it. Oddly, there is the same tendency in Scadrial books. None of the PoV characters are proper skaa. IIRC, Dockson didn't have a PoV, or if he had, it was very brief. In part it was because Sanderson flubbed his worldbuilding a bit - in this grim, cruel world he made Vin and Spook "too young for the mills/mines" as teenagers! When iRL they would have been old enough to work at 7 or so if enslaved, or even merely poor. And I am not sure that those missing skaa PoVs would have been as complimentary to Kelsier as you believe, given that his actions often lead to bloody repression of people for whom he had ostensibly intervened. Like, when he had saved that girl from rape-murder and killed Tresting and Co didn't he expect most of the plantation skaa to get slaughtered in retaliation? And wasn't he rather surprised to discover that they had survived and joined Yeden's army? It is easy to say that the skaa situation was already untenable - when faced with imminent death or that of loved ones as a result of someone else's actions, most people aren't appreciative. Finally, I am not sure why you think that so much of Scadrial's population resides in Elendel Basin in Era 2 - I was under impression that the Mawlish were significantly more numerous. Yes, their weather conditions are harsher, but they have learned to deal with them and even with the Ice Death, after the Catacendre they were much more numerous than the survivors of the Final Empire.