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It is weird to me that there is yet another separate splinter of Honor in Shinowar. I think it is more likely that someone who can harm Honor’s power is in Shinovar. And that person is Ishar. I believe preserving the remnant of Honor is separate from Dalinar’s journey and the contest of champions. That is where the main power of Honor is in danger. I think Kaladin will have to protect Stormfather from Ishar. 1) Ishar has animosity toward Stormfather. ‘He curses me at night’ - from Oathbringer. 2) Ishar tried to still Dalinar’ bond to Stormfather. 3) ‘The Reforged Spear becomes the hope of spren’ – from the back cover. 4) Stormfather came from the Wind. Maybe that is why she is concerned. 5) It is implied in RoW that Dalinar nearly killed Stormfather by pulling him into the Physical realm. 6) Ishar experiments. What if Ishar wasn't trying to give spren a body and keep them alive in the Physical realm? What if he was just practicing? Maybe his main goal is to pull Stormfather.

To give up power if you feel you are not fit for it is the responsible thing to do. He still gives his all attention to combat Odium and help the coalition. How is he avoiding responsibility? Why does Adolin think he is worse of a man than his father thinks he is? He is ashamed of what he did. I always read it as satisfaction from the vengeance and shame from the way of doing so. It is a complex feeling, vague enough that a more sinister interpretation may be more valid. I just can't justify the sinister interpretation of the character, because I can't back it up with other instances.

'Good ending' for me is satisfying character ark and survival. I am confident in good character arks, but with high stakes, some characters are at risk of dying.

I agree with everything. The book doesn't need to sacrifice so many character arks to have a surprise Odium's champion. I prefer a 'good ending' for all major characters. But I am afraid it is impossible for a book with such high stakes.

He regretted the way of killing not the killing itself. That is part of the reason he refused the crown. That was my read. What was Dalinar's repentance for destroying Rathalas? He took the responsibility for his actions.

Kaladin did the opposite in similar circumstances. At one point he was tempted to fly and kill Amaram in the middle of the night. He decided against it. So I think the text of the book frames what Adolin did as dishonorable. I just personally disagree. Also, I think he did repent, after he told Dalinar the truth and took the responsibility for the action. For him to say that he regrets killing him would be disingenuous.

The killing was justified. The problem is that he wasn't transparent about it. He should have told Dalinar from the get-go. But I agree this can't be the justification for him turning evil. All major characters have done much worse, including Kaladin, who was a part of the plot against the king he swore to protect.

Yeah. With Dalinar adopting Kaladin this quote is really scary. The location of the duel is really weird. How a fused champion will enter the tower? I assume the protection will need to be lifted. Something tells me both champions would not have access to Stormlight / Voidlight / Towerlight. Agree. But I am not sure if the refusal of both champions to kill each other will count as 'breaking the terms'. If Dalinar refuses to fight, Adolin could just kill him. If both refuse to kill each other, which of them will count as the one who breaks them? Dalinar will need to make something stupid to break the terms.

The smart thing for Dalinar to do if Adolin is the champion is to put Kaladin against him. Do you think Adolin can justify killing Kaladin?

You can even corrupt Maya and his shard plate. That may explain the black shardplate from Honor's vision in Oathbringer. Adolin also fits in 'something terribly familiar in them' eyes description of the champion. But I really hope nothing of this happens. I would prefer literally anyone else for the champion role.

There is another problematic thing. You need to separate Adolin and Maya for all of this to work. I doubt she will be OK with this.

I agree. It is possible to exploit Adolin's resentment of his father and persuade him that TOdium is better for Roshar. But not in his current state. A lot of groundwork needs to be done to justify his shift. I also agree that Shallan is the biggest stumbling block here. Just threatening here won't work for me. You either need to bring her to Odium's side or kill her (especially not by Odium's forces). Odium can play his 'give me your pain' card in this situation. I am afraid this is where the book is going with Adolin. He is the most gut-punching choice for the Odium's champion. Sadly, I'm not fond of this choice at all. It may ruin an amazing character for me. He is a far better choice for Dalinar's champion.

I believe there is no definitive answer to that. I assume it is in the cognitive realm when dismissed because of the same 10-second rule as for the Deadeye Shardblades. It is curious what will happen when someone goes through the Oathgate with a bonded Honorblade. Maybe its cognitive representation is the same blade as in the Physical realm.

I think he is talking to Odium. Odium is manipulating him to become the champion of Dalinar. Maybe Kaladin's participation will give him the desirable outcome.

My whole point is that he unbonded the blade willingly to give it to Chana. Your argument is valid. Honorblade doesn't dismiss automatically when it falls from the grip. It can still be bonded to Taln. It sounds like a pretty cool moment if Taln just summons his blade back after regaining sanity.