StrikerEZ he/him Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 Guys. You have no idea how much not fun it was to try and get caught up on all of this. I didn't even really have a chance to guess at the size of the elim team like I normally do on D1. I'm gonna do it anyway. With 19 players, I'd bet there's no less than 4, and 5 is probably pushing the number of elims as well. Also, I don't really have much of a read on anyone yet, though it is a bit odd how fast the votes have all been flying around.
Ashbringer he/him Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 With the four-Elim guestimate (which is my guess as well) in mind, my personal guess is that the Elims have one Ajah-warder pair. But NOT two. So if an Elim is found... what do we do about the person they’re bound to?
Quintessential she/her Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Ashbringer said: With the four-Elim guestimate (which is my guess as well) in mind, my personal guess is that the Elims have one Ajah-warder pair. But NOT two. So if an Elim is found... what do we do about the person they’re bound to? This had sort of occurred to me too, I think... idk, I feel like the safest bet would probably be to exe them? Or at least watch them very carefully from then on.
Illwei Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Quinn0928 said: This had sort of occurred to me too, I think... idk, I feel like the safest bet would probably be to exe them? Or at least watch them very carefully from then on. Hm. not a fan of that first option. I think we should watch them, but I also think it's better to burn that bridge when we get to it? because it's going to matter how they've been interacting and what they're actions have been and- well, we wouldn't even know who their partner(s) were??? so yeah. I think it's best to get there when we get there. ...993 ;-;
James Brafin he/him Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 Okay, I'm two pages in and I'm slowly getting some headway and thinking in. As of the top of page three, here's my general overview: Hard townlean on Quinn. Has been pretty productive already, very town!solve Illwei, I'm on to you. I figured out what you were going after in #16, but I can't decide if I believe you or you're baiting (and I'm leaning towards the latter). At any rate, I'm pretty sure you haven't succeeded at this point, so that's that. FoS on you Dice I have you between two things as well, but again I don't know where to put you; you're very NAI to me right now (which isn't a great thing). I appreciate being a grass-colored sheep but it's hard to read like that. Mild townlean on Ash, Condensate, heavier on Devota. I'm super, super sus of Dannex right now. Like, hardcore want to vote but don't know the structure yet so don't want to do anything stupid. There's powerhunting, there's high-effort/low-value, there's a possible PM slip; and I still need to parse #46. Leaning town!shard for his contribution to this, btw. Wish I could say more about Liranil, Unknown, and Lotus, but they've been super NAI so far. Will be back in about 30 minutes with next batching. 2
Quintessential she/her Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, James Brafin said: Mild townlean on Ash, Condensate, heavier on Devota. (typically we call them Connie and Devo, not Condensate and Devota XD) 3 minutes ago, James Brafin said: I'm super, super sus of Dannex right now. Like, hardcore want to vote but don't know the structure yet so don't want to do anything stupid. There's powerhunting, there's high-effort/low-value, there's a possible PM slip; and I still need to parse #46. Leaning town!shard for his contribution to this, btw. I mean, you can vote Dannex, it won't... people vote for far less than what you've got, especially D1 which maybe isn't a good thing and is probably the reason why the elims keep winning on this site, but heyyy at least none of us will judge you
James Brafin he/him Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 Damn okay then, as long as I'm not dropping us into a lynch too early. vote: Dannex
Mat he/him Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 May I ask a few terminology things? 8 minutes ago, James Brafin said: FoS 8 minutes ago, James Brafin said: grass-colored sheep And I'm assuming the numbers (16, 46) are in reference to the 16th post in the thread, and 46th. Correct?
James Brafin he/him Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 FoS: Finger of suspicion. Not a vote, but looks suspicious. Like scumleaning someone, but stronger. Grass-colored sheep: Sheeping, but trying to fly under the radar while you do so. Where I come from it's generally seen as scummy, whereas normal sheeping is NAI. And yes, those are the post numbers and can I just say that I HATE that this site doesn't have them, and I have to go back and look for a post when I want to compare it to my notes.
Illwei Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, James Brafin said: Damn okay then, as long as I'm not dropping us into a lynch too early. No need to specify it's a "vote:" btw :P. just bolding and red is enough :). 17 minutes ago, Quinn0928 said: I mean, you can vote Dannex, it won't... people vote for far less than what you've got, especially D1 which maybe isn't a good thing and is probably the reason why the elims keep winning on this site, but heyyy at least none of us will judge you I'd argue that we have an Even 40.6 win rate each side 9 minutes ago, James Brafin said: And yes, those are the post numbers and can I just say that I HATE that this site doesn't have them, and I have to go back and look for a post when I want to compare it to my notes. Yeah, happens when you're not a dedicated mafia site :P. we don't have any type of system for ISOs either :P. I just kinda put links to posts in a spreadsheet when I'm doing that, but it does take more time :P. EDIT: 9 minutes ago, James Brafin said: scummy hehe. EDIT EDIT: I have a strong enough village read on both Danex and Reading that I will do all in my power to make sure they don't die today :(. Is dead doc laughing at me yet? :/ EDIT EDIT EDIT: Spoiler Quinn0928. . . . . . . . . . . . . .38 (smh....:P) Illwei. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .26 Matrim's Dice. . . . . . . . . . . .22 Condensation . . . . . . . . . . .14 Dannex . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .14 James Brafin . . . . . . . . . . . .13 Shard of Reading. . . . . . . . . 8 Breaker. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .5 Ashbringer . . . . . . . . . . . . . .4 Lotus . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 Gears . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .2 Liranil. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 Archer. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .1 Devotary of Spontaneity. . . . 1 StrikerEZ. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .1 The Unknown Order. . . . . . . 1 Edited January 15, 2021 by Illwei 994 ;-;. should I ask my warder to post for me? O.o.
James Brafin he/him Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 I believe you, but I don't think you can do everything in your power.
Illwei Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, James Brafin said: I believe you, but I don't think you can do everything in your power. I believe that I can do everything in my power :P. how big that power is is the question, I believe :P.
James Brafin he/him Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) Okay, an hour and a snack-grab later I'm here with pages 3 and four. Here's the general overview I've got at this point: Dannex is no way not scum. Responses to their behavior have been deflective, unhelpful, and evasive; maybe even a little aggressive too. My vote is sticking until further notice. On top of this, I'm pretty sure either Conden or Shard is bussing, but it's not both and I'm leaning Conden. However, #89 makes me weirded out so I will continue to entertain. Also, Lotus, get your butt in here and explain #59!!! (Take your time, but I can't find words for how sus I am of this. FoS like nobody's watching here) Quinn, on the other hand, is almost certainly town and I will be sheeping. Leaning towards more and more town!IIllwei, so as a heads up; No. Dice is also really town to me Breaker, Gears are NAI If you ever want more detail come at me; I'm going post-by-post and typing my thoughts for every single one. I'm glad to review and discuss Edited January 15, 2021 by James Brafin 1
James Brafin he/him Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Illwei said: I believe that I can do everything in my power :P. how big that power is is the question, I believe :P. Okay, hardread on Town!Illwei. Well played.
Guest Breaker Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 Maybe I missed this: what's Sheeping, what's NAI?
Quintessential she/her Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Breaker said: Maybe I missed this: what's Sheeping, what's NAI? Sheeping is jumping on trains, NAI is "not alignment indicative"
James Brafin he/him Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 Also to sheep is to just generally agree, but it often is paired with following wagons, yes.
Mat he/him Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, James Brafin said: If you ever want more detail come at me; I'm going post-by-post and typing my thoughts for every single one. I'm glad to review and discuss (If it isn't too much trouble, could you link the posts when you mention the numbers? For the... probably everyone else that doesn't keep track counting to number 89 is less desirable Thanks) Note that I agree with your Dannex read for the most part. However Illwei has a point about his playstyle, so the aggressiveness/etc is to some extent NAI, I think. There is a line to be crossed, though.
James Brafin he/him Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 Links added, and I was thinking the same thing; it would be more NAI if there wasn't a few other glaring problems.
Illwei Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: Note that I agree with your Dannex read for the most part. However Illwei has a point about his playstyle, so the aggressiveness/etc is to some extent NAI, I think. There is a line to be crossed, though. I think its interesting to get an outside perspective though, from someone who doesn't know his Meta. For someone who does know his Metaa @Quinn0928 as someone who was on an Elim team with him in MR47, would you tell me if he acted any differently there? EDIT: @James Brafin, can you explain/give examples of: 15 minutes ago, James Brafin said: Quinn, on the other hand, is almost certainly town and I will be sheeping. 15 minutes ago, James Brafin said: Responses to their behavior have been deflective, unhelpful, and evasive; maybe even a little aggressive too these? Edited January 15, 2021 by Illwei NINE NINETY SIX GUYS IM SCARED BUT I HAVE THINGS TO SAY
Quintessential she/her Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, Illwei said: I think its interesting to get an outside perspective though, from someone who doesn't know his Meta. For someone who does know his Metaa @Quinn0928 as someone who was on an Elim team with him in MR47, would you tell me if he acted any differently there? I mean, I... was more focused on staying alive and faking reads on other people than I was on reading my own teammates lol. I don't think Dannex is acting the way he did in MR47, but that's because in that game he was flying under the radar as much as possible until I bussed him. That definitely doesn't mean he's not elim this game, obviously.
James Brafin he/him Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 Yes I can, give me a few seconds as I am almost caught up.
dannnex male Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 I have absolutely no idea how anything I’ve done counts as ‘aggressive’, I’m not pushing for anything! I don’t even have a vote right now. 1 hour ago, James Brafin said: there's a possible PM slip I have no PMs. Make of that what you will.
James Brafin he/him Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 I'm caught up and close! Give me 5 minutes!
James Brafin he/him Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 Okay, I'm here I'm caught up I can't breathe good night y'all move like a freaking blue hedgehog Really sus of Conden's behavior right now, will explain in a min when I do my big "Dannex + Conden" post and am not summarizing Liranil pinged me with their re-entry, don't like, no FoS yet but I'm keeping an eye there. Quinn might have setup knowledge? Unsure, definitely second-guessing that but throwing it out there So much dumb fluff because I'm a dumb. Sorry, all. Striker's first post is just weird. Prob NAI, but it's odd. Okay, time to get busy, wall is 100% incoming so just hold on to your hats/hair/horses. 1
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