Anniversary Game 6/Anonymous Game 7: We Shall All Be Changed

[Saffron Iguana]

So I've been rereading the Lion Lynch. The first statement of suspicion on Rhino during that cycle came from Albatross, who didn't act on it. At that time the lynch still favored me and Toucan.

The first vote after that discussion was axolotl voting on Albatross, bringing albatross to a tie with me, and one vote behind toucan. The Emerald falcon started off the Lion thing by switching away from Toucan to Lion. Swan added a second vote to albatross moving them in the lead. Gecko then added another vote to Lion. 

After that, amber vulture added a vote onto Rhino.

After that, we had octopus, albatross and then vulture add a vote, with me adding a final one on top using vote manipulation.

The two points where I think elim votes in the lynch where most likely was shortly after Albatross' discussion with rhino, and after vulture's vote. Those votes would be axolotl's and Octopus's vote respectively. We know octopus was evil, but Axolotl's posts, apart from that vote on albatross, don't shed much light on their alignment

6 hours ago, Emerald Falcon said:

What do you all think of Scorpion and Meerkat?Am I just tunneling or is there something there?

I could see Meerkat being an elim, in a way similar to that I could see you as being an elim. They (used to) talk a lot and share a bunch of reads, and these include a read on octopus post Lion lynch that looks off seeing how octopus flipped.

Regarding Scorpion, yeah, I think I can see that. This post in particular:

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I'm also leaning village on Octopus. Aligning so strongly with a lynch on Iguana along with Rhino D2 would have been dangerous as teammates. They've also made a lot of pretty good arguments and contributions overall.

In addition to covering for octopus, scorpion is also praising their own actions here as village, without actually bringing it up, which definitely stands out to me.

Scorpion is throwing in a lot of effort this cycle, but that's not necessarily Alignment indicative.

 

This also brings me to another point though. At this point, only six people have spoken up. These are the same six that have had a reasonable degree of activity throughout most of the game. If there's only one elim left, this is not too troublesome yet. If there's two active elims left, this cycle is essentially Lylo, so I'd like everyone to think long and hard on their choice for vote, as this one in particular might matter a whole lot more than the current player count might suggest.

Speaking off votes, in this post I've discussed some suspicions of scorpion, meerkat and axolotl. Out of these three, Scorpion is the most suspicious to me.

However, there's also Falcon to consider. If there's a deepwolf this game it has to be falcon. Falcon also suggested both the Meerkat and Scorpion lynches, so voting on either off those means accepting that falcon is village.

So that leaves me with three options. Vote one of scorpion or meerkat, vote falcon, or vote axolotl. I'm going to need to do another reread of falcon to try and settle my thoughts on them one way or another, but for now I'll vote axolotl. They are not my greatest suspicion among these four (that'd be, as I said before, scorpion), but I want to see what, if anything, happens when I am contrarian and push for a lynch that falcon didn't push for.

Edited January 8, 2020 by Saffron Iguana

[Amethyst Scorpion]

36 minutes ago, Saffron Iguana said:

In addition to covering for octopus, scorpion is also praising their own actions here as village, without actually bringing it up, which definitely stands out to me.

Yes, my read on Octopus doesn't look good, but how else was I supposed to read them? From the little I remembered of their posts, they had good analysis, contributions, and overall I had a village read. I was wrong, but that happens to everyone, not just elims.

Also, what do you mean by praising my actions as village? I don't think I've been praising any of my actions, as I constantly feel I haven't done anything, let alone anything helpful.

[Saffron Iguana]

 

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Also, what do you mean by praising my actions as village? I don't think I've been praising any of my actions, as I constantly feel I haven't done anything, let alone anything helpful.

It's more that you where reading octopus as village for something that you yourself had also done which stood out to me, so there's an implied 'look, I'm also village' there. Maybe I'm reading too much into that though.

Edited January 8, 2020 by Saffron Iguana

[Amethyst Scorpion]

4 minutes ago, Saffron Iguana said:

 

It's more that you where reading octopus as village for something that you yourself had also done which stood out to me, so there's an implied 'look, I'm also village' there. Maybe I'm reading too much into that though.

Ah. That makes sense. Like I said to Falcon, if I weren't me, I'd be perfectly okay with lynching me based on my past posts. I've played terribly. But until then, I'm going to do my best to help find the actual elim(s). Meerkat and Falcon being my top suspects.

[Mint Heron]

I've been rereading the thread, and I agree on Meerkat and Falcon suspicions, but I believe that I am slightly biased towards voting Meerkat because Falcon has been more memorable as a contributor (sorry Meerkat). I will temporarily vote Meerkat while I read over the thread once more. 

[Salmon Meerkat]

Apologies for the inactivity. I have the thread open while doing work today, so when I have a spare minute, I'll be trying to read, and contribute with my thoughts. It may be at least a few hours though before you see more. 

[Saffron Iguana]

Alright, I'm doing my big falcon reread.

Things in favor of village!falcon:

-Just generally talks a lot and encourages activity

Things in favor of elim!falcon:

Falcon reasoned against the Zebra lynch:

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I don't like either of the main lynches right now. The votes on Penguin (Taladir) are RP and unretracted poke votes, and it's the exact same thing for Zebra (Arauna). That's not worth killing someone over. @Turquoise Gorilla, you got your RP response and Penguin's retracted their vote on you. Will you do the same? @Pearl Chameleon, what about you? I know that Arauna's dating your ex, but that hardly seems worth killing her over.

Though in hindsight this looks bad, I don't disagree with the reasoning itself, as I've mentioned several times I think that lynch was bad myself. What I do think is noteworthy is Falcon's lack of attempt to swing the lynch themselves, which could hint at them not wanting to get too deeply involved there themselves.

 

And... that's honestly it wrt smoking guns. If falcon is an elim, they've done a pretty remarkable job at not getting too deeply involved with any of the suspects to be at risk of getting caught by association. That having been said, this cuts both ways. Off the two elims that where actually discussed, falcon never mentioned Rhino before they got outed, and while they had quite a few interactions with octopus, they never really pushed on octopus, if that makes sense.

All in all, this reread really hasn't helped me make up my mind. 

Edited January 8, 2020 by Saffron Iguana

[Saffron Iguana]

Ugh, it's too late in the cycle for me to be able to afford to be so indecisive. I think Falcon needs to be resolved in one way or another because they're such an important factor this game, and the best ways to do that are to either:

• let him lead the lynch in the hope that village!falcon leads us to an elim, clearing himself in the process.
• Lynch falcon.

I've realized that I'm not quite comfortable with letting falcon lead the lynch, so that means the only other option open to me is Axolotl falcon. I would like everyone to, as much as possible, consolidate their vote either with falcon or against him, as with the amount of inactivity going on there might not be enough active village votes left to split the lynch more than two ways without handing control to the elims if there's more than one left.

Edited January 8, 2020 by Saffron Iguana

[Magenta Albatross]

So, I really need to get ready for work, so I don't really have time to do any major rereads or anything, but I just find it really odd that most people are voting on Meerkat. Is there something that I missed that really screams elim?

And as sad as I would be to lose one of my RP partners, I wouldn't be particularly opposed to a Falcon lynch. Would at least soothe my paranoia.

[Saffron Iguana]

4 minutes ago, Magenta Albatross said:

So, I really need to get ready for work, so I don't really have time to do any major rereads or anything, but I just find it really odd that most people are voting on Meerkat. Is there something that I missed that really screams elim?

The one post by meerkat that looks bad as far as I can tell is this one:

specifically, the last paragraph of this section:

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While I do understand the last minute switches to Opal to ensure a lynch unaffected by vote manips, It's something I don't like the looks of. 

The last two to have done so were @Magenta Albatross and @Amber Vulture

Magenta makes sense from a survival perspective. However, an arguement I've often heard, but don't necessarily agree with is that sometimes it's better to just be killed, to help the village learn more stuff quicker. Like I said, though I personally don't agree with it, because often games can be much less fun if you are out, and no longer able to play, especially when it's still relatively early in the game. Neutral read. 

Amber's argument is just for the interest of not wanting to lynch albatross. Their previous vote on Rhino came relatively lat in the cycle too (Not way late, and it could have just been due to IRL reasons, but it's still interesting to note. Could have been a shot to find an alternate lynch candidate to save one of Lion or albatross. Slight elim read. Stronger if Lion or Albatross turns out to be elim. 

The vote prior to those votes was by @Scarlet Octopus, but that appears to have been about 3 hours before the cycle ended, which is a little early for a last minute type vote swing. I have found Octopus's posts very well thought out, and ring like someone genuinely trying to solve the game. I have generally agreed with most things they've said, but not all. Additionally there have been a few things that confused me like this quote from his last post on D2 

The way meerkat brings up octopus here is a bit hedgy and leaning towards a village read without out-right stating it. Apart form that, I have't really found anything else to make meerkat look suspicious.

That's a bit off an overall problem though. Most remaining players are either not that active, have been cleared fairly solidly already, or are falcon, so the case on anyone else would by necessity be based on relatively small stuff, as there just isn't that much.

[Violet Axolotl]

8 hours ago, Amethyst Scorpion said:

 

Axolotl: Neutral to elim. Their D2 vote didn't make sense, but otherwise not a lot of data.

 

6 hours ago, Saffron Iguana said:

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The two points where I think elim votes in the lynch where most likely was shortly after Albatross' discussion with rhino, and after vulture's vote. Those votes would be axolotl's and Octopus's vote respectively. We know octopus was evil, but Axolotl's posts, apart from that vote on albatross, don't shed much light on their alignment

 

On reflection, yeah I agree my vote there didn't make a tonne of sense. My vote on albatross... If you hadn't worked out already I'm a pm person, so things like pm safety I care a lot about, so when albatross seemed to have no pm safety from what they said in thread, that was something i kept getting stuck on (all makes sense now of course, they had their reasons and the reasons make sense), at the time I wasnt feeling the other lynches either, plus, one of my more active pms was the one I had with rhino who had vocally been suspicious of albatross in my pms, so i think to a degree it was more because in my head I was going "why wouldn't you be careful with revealing roles unless you were phishing which is more of an elim thing" plus others were already apparently suspicious so like a sheeple i followed ish. Full trust on albatross now though. 

I dont know if that helps my vote make any more sense but eh, thats my reasoning as far as i recall.

 

2 hours ago, Saffron Iguana said:

I would like everyone to, as much as possible, consolidate their vote either with falcon or against him, as with the amount of inactivity going on there might not be enough active village votes left to split the lynch more than two ways without handing control to the elims if there's more than one left.

Hm true. Personally i feel like i trust falcon, but ive been plenty wrong already in my trusts so, who knows with that.

I need to look at peoples posts again to see where i feel regarding suspicions before i vote.

Also its stupidly late so i dont trust my brain so theres that too

Tempted to suggest lynching someone like heron who we've seen very little of but i feel like the remaining elim (s) would be more active so thats probably a waste.

Bleh ill try vote later if i can. If i dont, i sorry, feel free to spam @ me i just know ill be out a lot for the remaindrr of the cycle so theres that. 

[Salmon Meerkat]

Prelude: So this post has been moved from multiple devices, so the formating has gone a bit wonky. 

Oh wow, I hadn't realized I was the subject of much discussion. That's interesting. Let's see what I can do to dispel these concerns. 

 

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  On 1/7/2020 at 7:02 AM, Magenta Albatross said:

• Salmon Meerkat: I've got a bit of a village gut read on them, but I don't know how much of that is just because they haven't posted much or they've posted stuff I agree with. I'll need to check that on my reread. Soft Village

 

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  19 hours ago, Emerald Falcon said:

Elim: Scorpion, Meerkat

Rationale for changes:

Weasel claimed they protected Albatross. Nobody has counterclaimed yet. Meerkat stated they trusted Octopus, and thus gets a placeholder vote until I can look more closely. For Scorpion, I've actually had a gut suspicion of them for a while (Toucan can confirm) and with only one or at most two Sympathizers left everyone I'm not sure of should be looked at more closely.

What do you all think of Scorpion and Meerkat?Am I just tunneling or is there something there?

 

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  15 hours ago, Amethyst Scorpion said:

Meerkat: Neutral to elim. Read Octopus as village in a distancy way. They did say they wanted to look into Rhino and Toucan, but never did. Granted, Rhino was revealed before they really got the chance, and life happens.

 

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  12 hours ago, Saffron Iguana said:

The two points where I think elim votes in the lynch where most likely was shortly after Albatross' discussion with rhino, and after vulture's vote. Those votes would be axolotl's and Octopus's vote respectively. We know octopus was evil, but Axolotl's posts, apart from that vote on albatross, don't shed much light on their alignment

I could see Meerkat being an elim, in a way similar to that I could see you as being an elim. They (used to) talk a lot and share a bunch of reads, and these include a read on octopus post Lion lynch that looks off seeing how octopus flipped.

However, there's also Falcon to consider. If there's a deepwolf this game it has to be falcon. Falcon also suggested both the Meerkat and Scorpion lynches, so voting on either off those means accepting that falcon is village.

So that leaves me with three options. Vote one of scorpion or meerkat, vote falcon, or vote axolotl. I'm going to need to do another reread of falcon to try and settle my thoughts on them one way or another, but for now I'll vote axolotl. They are not my greatest suspicion among these four (that'd be, as I said before, scorpion), but I want to see what, if anything, happens when I am contrarian and push for a lynch that falcon didn't push for.

 

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  9 hours ago, Mint Heron said:

I've been rereading the thread, and I agree on Meerkat and Falcon suspicions, but I believe that I am slightly biased towards voting Meerkat because Falcon has been more memorable as a contributor (sorry Meerkat). I will temporarily vote Meerkat while I read over the thread once more. 

 

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  8 hours ago, Saffron Iguana said:

The way meerkat brings up octopus here is a bit hedgy and leaning towards a village read without out-right stating it. Apart form that, I have't really found anything else to make meerkat look suspicious.

That's a bit off an overall problem though. Most remaining players are either not that active, have been cleared fairly solidly already, or are falcon, so the case on anyone else would by necessity be based on relatively small stuff, as there just isn't that much.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So I find it most interesting that as of yesterday, most people, as far as I know, had a neutral to village read on me, then because one person had an elim read on me, now I'm one of the largest candidates for a lynch. 

Yeah, I have been bad at not completing promises this game. I'll post a quick analysis of different players coming up. 

So I actually legitimately thought that Octopus was village. It wasn't a hard-clear, thus the reason I was a bit hedgey. Other than that I know I haven't been the most active, but I don't know if that's a fair reason to lynch me. Is there any other argument as to why I see elim? I'd love to be able to address it. 

 

Player List
2. Amethyst Scorpion: Their analyses have been really good. Something about the name makes me automatically think elim, but despite that presupposed prejudice, I think I'd go slight village on Scorpion.
6. Emerald Falcon: Is very interesting, because I can't decide whether they're definitely village, or definitely elim. I think I have a slight elim read on them but not extremely strong. 
7. Indigo Weasel: I haven't seen a counter-claim for their *either protect or scan or both* which makes the claim more likely.  This makes me think they're very village, but I do wish I had more to analyze (just like many people think about me. 
9. Magenta Albatross: I'm pretty sure we all trust Albatross, for very obvious reasons. 
10. Mauve Crocodile: Albatross's point is rather interesting, but I don't know if I really agree with it. It seems like a possibility, but I wouldn't go so hard of an elim like Magenta Albatross felt. I still have an overall village vibe, but I'd be willing to put them anywhere between soft village to soft elim. 
11. Mint Heron: relatively inactive, like me. seems like they're choosing to just follow and hope to lie below the radar. I want to say Elim, but I don't know if I can. I'd probably go neutral for now. 
12. Onyx Flamingo: Like others, I wish we had more posts from them. a quick view of their post history makes me lean slightly village though 
17. Saffron Iguana: They have a lot of content, so it's hard to do a good analysis on it all. They're one of the few that have so much content. I keep falling on the fact that that they did vote to lynch an elim on D1. Other than that, about half the cycles I lean Elim, and the other half I lean Village. It could be good to lynch them as some point to get their flip
18. Sage Kangaroo: I really enjoy the RP, but it makes me suspicious of them. Since there has been almost no analysis from them despite this being C5, it makes me suspicious. I'd go soft to medium elim on them. But also, I don't think it's fair to lynch them for that. 
19. Salmon Meerkat:  I don't really like providing analysis of myself because It's obviously going to be biased based on my alignment, and I'll always find stuff to support a villager argument. 
21. Sunburst Toucan: Their alignment could be very telling. For that reason, I would like to vote for Toucan. I don't have a whole lot of data on them, which is scary, especially this far in to the game. Typically by D5, we are within just a few cycles of the end of the game. 
24. Violet Axolotl: I don't like how some of their posts sound. I also don't like how Albatross, who we all are fairly certain is a villager seems to hedge on whether they are elim or village in their post earlier this cycle, then gave them the rating of Hard Village. The reason I don't like that though is because it makes me want to lean more village on them than I would normally do. I would have to go soft village instead of soft elim, though I would like more clarification from Albatross as to why you hedged for your analysis, then went so Hard on the village when you actually rated. 

 

Anyway, my vote for now is on Toucan, though I may move to falcon for survival purposes, and I would also support a kangaroo, iguana, or a Crocodile lynch.

Anyway, Vote count:

Meerkat (3): Falcon, Scorpion, Heron

Falcon (1): Iguana

Toucan (1): Meerkat

[Magenta Albatross]

1 hour ago, Salmon Meerkat said:

24. Violet Axolotl: I don't like how some of their posts sound. I also don't like how Albatross, who we all are fairly certain is a villager seems to hedge on whether they are elim or village in their post earlier this cycle, then gave them the rating of Hard Village. The reason I don't like that though is because it makes me want to lean more village on them than I would normally do. I would have to go soft village instead of soft elim, though I would like more clarification from Albatross as to why you hedged for your analysis, then went so Hard on the village when you actually rated. 

Well, I didn’t think I was hedging when I wrote that post. I was just acknowledging the possibility that what I’m reading as village could just be a really good elim. I’m willing to believe they’re actually village for now, partly because of our PM. Also because if they’re one of the two players I think they are, then this behavior fits them pretty well.

Also, I was working on a full analysis post earlier...but then got distracted and lost my focus and deleted what little I had already written. Before I deleted it, I had kinda come to the conclusion that Iguana is probably village. The possibility that Toucan and Iguana and Zebra were all elim teammates, and Iguana just made an arbitrary choice to lynch Zebra over Toucan is definitely a possibility, but Occam’s Razor says the simplest possibility is probably the true one. Which makes me think that Iguana is probably village. Toucan could still be an elim, but it’d probably be best if we just scanned them tonight. I’m not confident enough in my suspicion of them to suggest lynching or killing them.

As for Meerkat, in their defense ( @Saffron Iguana), I too thought that Octopus’s posts were very well thought out...which is kinda what made me decide to kill them. It felt like they were putting tons of effort into analyzing things without really getting much out of it. Maybe. If I could explain what gave me the gut read on them, that’d make things a lot easier.

Falcon. I’ve been getting that same gut feeling I had from Rhino and Octopus earlier in the game from Falcon, and hey, maybe I can get 3 elims in a row?

Seriousky though, I’d much rather lynch Falcon than Meerkat. He’s ingrained himself so much in the discussions of the game without really producing much results. Me and Iguana have kind of done the same thing, but at least we’ve caught elims. (They did participate in the Rhino lynch, but that isn’t particularly noteworthy considering 12 other players did too). 

[Amethyst Scorpion]

Meerkat Falcon

It would be nice to resolve a long term gut feeling of Falcon.

[Mauve Crocodile]

Okay, I don't think Falcon is an elim. Two elims made note of Zebra before his death: (italics added by me)

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Before their Death, Zebra was only mentioned by Iguana, Dragonfly, Chameleon, Penguin, Falcon, and Rhino. Iguana mentioned them more than the others. (Gorilla also mentioned them, but only to invite them to RP with them. Zebra never spoke or interacted with anyone. Falcon is the only one to say they don't like the lynch on Toucan or Zebra. 

I'd guess that Iguana and Falcon are both village based on this list and the fact that Octopus was the one that made it. Seems like a bad idea as an elim to make a list that is 50% elim. Could be wrong about this though.

2. Amethyst Scorpion: Jesh, Lost Axehound
6. Emerald Falcon: Sein, Inquisitive
7. Indigo Weasel: Adhom Inem, Ardent
9. Magenta Albatross: Jonan Wikim, Lost Axehound (Gren)
11. Mint Heron: Sam, Once a Darkeyes
12. Onyx Flamingo: Kir, Kleptomaniac Scout
17. Saffron Iguana: Merinira, Scout
18. Sage Kangaroo: Gilglin, Ardent (Devotary of the Mind)
19. Salmon Meerkat: Cadamum, Ghostblood Recruit
21. Sunburst Toucan: Tafud, Slightly Crazy
24. Violet Axolotl: Adi, Anxious

Above is the list of remaining players (minus myself). Italics are inactive (little point in lynching), bold are people I don't want to vote for this cycle.

Heron placed a vote this cycle but hasn't done any followup. Amethyst is willing to lynch either Falcon or Meerkat, which could be an indication of being elim. Weasel hasn't voted, and neither has Axolotl. I think I'd be happy lynching either Scorpion or Heron.

Edited January 9, 2020 by Mauve Crocodile

[Onyx Flamingo]

I'm sorry, unexpected events have made me busier then expected. Will try to read through and put out analysis tonight or tommorow, just haven't followed enough to put a vote down this day cycle :/

[Emerald Falcon]

Scorpion. Your reasoning for your suspicion on me is inconsistent and contains several untruths. It feels more like an eliminator trying to get somebody lynched than a villager considering all their options.

Case in point:

22 hours ago, Amethyst Scorpion said:

Falcon: Neutral to elim. They've had a lot of good suggestions, but I'm mostly off-put by their lynch on Gecko. They pointed out how Gecko was suspicious of Octopus, but then pushed for their lynch after Octopus flipped elim. Rhino was super hedgy regarding Falcon, and Octopus always put them in the suspicious category. However, Octopus never did so in a way that would guarantee the lynch, and always backed off if it appeared to become a real threat.

4 hours ago, Amethyst Scorpion said:

Meerkat Falcon

It would be nice to resolve a long term gut feeling of Falcon.

First of all, Octopus was killed last Night. We received their alignment this Day. Gecko, on the contrary, was lynched last Day. However, you say that I tried to lynch Gecko after we learned of Octopus's alignment. Unless you consider me capable of time travel, this is flat-out wrong.

Additionally, you say that lynch was suspicious, but you yourself participated in it. Clearly you did not see anything wrong with it at the time, when you voted on Gecko alongside me here:

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I'll join the Gecko lynch. I've looked back on some of their and Rhino's posts. Gecko was one of two (?) people Rhino called out specifically after being outed. Rhino said something to the order of Gecko not mentioning Rhino, which could have been a distancing effort. I also don't like that Gecko is insistent that Lion is elim.

I probably will be lynched tonight no matter what I say. If you do, then please, villagers, try to keep the activity up, yeah? Hopefully once I'm dead you can rest your minds about me and go look for some actual Sympathizers.

[Amethyst Scorpion]

35 minutes ago, Emerald Falcon said:

Scorpion. Your reasoning for your suspicion on me is inconsistent and contains several untruths. It feels more like an eliminator trying to get somebody lynched than a villager considering all their options.

Case in point:

First of all, Octopus was killed last Night. We received their alignment this Day. Gecko, on the contrary, was lynched last Day. However, you say that I tried to lynch Gecko after we learned of Octopus's alignment. Unless you consider me capable of time travel, this is flat-out wrong.

Additionally, you say that lynch was suspicious, but you yourself participated in it. Clearly you did not see anything wrong with it at the time, when you voted on Gecko alongside me here:

I probably will be lynched tonight no matter what I say. If you do, then please, villagers, try to keep the activity up, yeah? Hopefully once I'm dead you can rest your minds about me and go look for some actual Sympathizers.

Wow. I'm all sorts of confused about timeline. I can't keep my days straight. However, I feel the correct timeline makes this more suspicious. It was as if trusted elim!Falcon was trying to silence one who had expressed suspicion of a teammate.

Yes, I participated in that lynch. I had really only been able to skim the thread, and didn't find where Gecko talked about Octopus until after both were dead. Your reasoning seemed sound at the time, and I've been ignoring my gut read because I didn't have anything to back it up. We're at the point, though, that gut reads are almost all we have.

[Emerald Falcon]

17 minutes ago, Amethyst Scorpion said:

Wow. I'm all sorts of confused about timeline. I can't keep my days straight. However, I feel the correct timeline makes this more suspicious. It was as if trusted elim!Falcon was trying to silence one who had expressed suspicion of a teammate.

Yeah, real difficult, silencing an inactive who hadn't spoken for days when the thread had no activity in it. Clearly, Gecko was such an urgent threat that I had to drum up activity in the thread and ask for people to do enough analysis for a vote, instead of just waiting another 48 hours to use the Night kill on Gecko. Such a threat indeed.

[Fifth Scholar he/him]

Cycle closed!

[Elbereth she/her]

So I fell asleep in a chair for two hours and need to go back to bed asap so this’ll be quick 

it’s Night 5 here’s a writeup Fifth did because he’s lovely and capable of staying awake 

sein’s is not done yet because I fell asleep and also know absolutely nothing about destiny help 

 

The squadron of spearmen marched through the lit corridor of Urithiru leading to the Breakaway. They were the first of the reinforcements which Dalinar had promised Kareana, and while there were no Radiants among their number (quite intentionally), they would still help secure a greater portion of the tower city, especially the parts which were already scouted. At their head was Brightlord and Major-General Vamah, who was an interesting choice of Dalinar’s; Kareana thought him something of an incompetent fop, with more knowledge of Roshar’s flora and fauna than of tactics and fighting, but that also made him easier to direct. Perhaps that was Dalinar’s way of indicating that she was still in charge of the expedition, despite the need to send a high-ranking officer to reassure the ordinary troops going there. She smiled, the thought cheering her as she greeted Vamah warmly, if with a slight edge. The man returned the greeting, sitting cross-legged on the cold stone floor as Kareana briefed him on the Unmade and other knowledge from their most current scouting. Vamah mostly nodded throughout the exchange, asking a polite question here or there about certain areas, and when Kareana had finished, he stood up to his full height.

“Thank you for the information, Brightness, which I am sure will be useful to us as we aid you in your scouting. I’ve certainly heard enough about the thirty-eighth floor to want to avoid it, and the other areas where men have been murdered. However, I do wonder about a certain thing; if you’re really limiting scouting expeditions to three parties a day, the entire squad doesn’t need to go with them every time. In fact, they’d probably just get in the way. What if I took a fourth group of just soldiers into a lower-risk or cleared area to do further investigations? It costs you nothing, and we may learn something useful.”

Kareana frowned, weighing Vamah’s request. The idea seemed good enough, and was perhaps the mathematically soundest distribution of soldiers, but she did worry still about the shadows. Without Radiant protection, half a squadron of soldiers would still be essentially dead meat, and with it, they would be baggage. She shrugged slightly. It was the man’s own life he gambled with, in the end. “I do hope you fully understand the risks these shadowed beings could pose,” Kareana cautioned him, “but you’re certainly free to explore if you wish to. Just know that no Radiant will be permitted to wander off alone with you or anybody else, so if you get neck deep in trouble, you’re bailing yourself out.”

Vamah smiled. “Understood, Brightness. We will report anything strange to you, naturally, including the shadows.” If you make it back alive, fools! Kareana raged inside her head. She breathed deeply. The major-general would likely never understand until he had encountered the things himself, which, hopefully, would never happen. She dismissed him with a wave to search the fifty-eighth floor, a cleared level, and with that dismissed him from her mind. She had more important things to worry about than the potential death of a foolish general; the matter of the actual death of a number of dependable and sensible Radiants was far more of a blow, and one they could ill afford to take several more times. With more planning and a firmer grip on the small remainder, however, Kareana hoped to demonstrate that the Knights Radiant could unite, cleanse themselves, and be the beacons they were meant to be. They just needed to stop the infighting.

 

The last soldier stepped back onto the lift system, preparing the ropes to have them be moved back up to the Breakaway. Vamah’s first exhibition had been an unmitigated success; the fifty-eighth floor was devoid of shadows and suspicion, and his squadron had found several artifacts, mostly gemstones, which the ancient Radiants had used. He nodded to his lieutenant. “You have the sample for Brightness Kareana?” The man nodded in reply, gesturing to the large gemstone secured in his breast pocket. “Excellent. I’ll take another look at that structure back there, and will be up with you all in a minute.” Some of the squad frowned, unwilling to leave their leader, but most were aware of Vamah’s eccentricity, and these were the ones who seized the ropes and began ascending the lift, silencing objections. 

Vamah grinned, setting off at a good clip as the squad left him. Urithiru would be full of ancient mysteries and technology just waiting to be discovered, and the central structure of the inner chamber on this level was one such contraption. It looked to be a sort of furnace or fireplace, with a large shaft shooting upwards for ventilation, and a grill of metal between its inner workings and the frame he could see. As to how it worked, that was another mystery. Was it powered by Stormlight, or could an ordinary match set it ablaze? The latter could be tested, at least. He took a small match out of his coat, struck it, and threw it between the bars of the grill. 

A loud whoosh of flame came to his ears as the furnace came to life, crackling red-hot. With the illumination, he could see that the large grill in front could be opened, presumably to incinerate objects, or to forge ordinary steel—perhaps it was simply abandoned by a craftsman who lived in the great city initially. Swinging open the grill, he peered against the bright light inside the contraption, looking for clues of its ownership or origin. As he did so, he felt his shadow growing darker behind him, and froze. Was this what Kareana had warned him about? Glancing over his shoulder, he saw with horror an oily black figure seem to rise from the ground, resolve itself into humanoid form, and push, sending the unfortunate major-general toppling into the furnace. There would be for him no return. 

---

As night fell in the towers of Urithiru, Jesh and Jonan sat together, whispering.

"I miss Trisk," Jesh said. "I hope she's okay."

"Yeah," said Jonan. "We'll go find our axehounds once we're done helping Sein, okay?"

Jesh pouted. "We could find them now."

"It's not safe for us to split up and be alone. There are dangerous things out there. Murderers," Jonan said. He cast a wary glance at the entraces to the room around him. Some of the spheres were already dun after days of use by Radiants, so the room was only dimly lit by a bowl on the edge of the room. They cast strange shadows on the corners of the room.

"Sein goes off by himself all the time," Jesh said.

"Yeah, but he's a Ghost-whatever. I'm not sure he even knows about the Odium sympathizers running around and killing everyone," Jonan said.

They spent a moment in silence. Another sphere went out, the last of its Stormlight finally leaking away.

Then Jesh quietly ventured, "What if Sein's one of the murderers?"

"Come on, kid, you know he's not," Jonan said. But he spoke as if trying to convince himself.

He had heard the other Radiants murmuring to themselves about the weird little spren. He was strange, they said. He couldn't be trusted, they said. With a chill, he remembered Brightness Kareana's words. "Don't trust the spren here. They could be corrupted."

A loud screeching sounded outside. Then another.

"Voidbringers!" Jesh said.

Jonan leapt to his feet. "Get behind me, Jesh." He held his hand out for his Shardblade, heart hammering. Ten....nine...

It was so dark out there. He couldn't see into the corridors.

His Shardblade manifested in his hand, and at the same time something whizzed towards his face. He swung towards it.

"Got some signal! I'm transmitting back to Sol --"

The Shardblade connected just as Sein moved into the light. It sliced easily through his shell and fuzzed though his bright blue eye. Light exploded out of his core. Jonan threw up his arm to protect himself, but it passed harmlessly through him.

The two halves of Sein clattered to the floor.

---

In another universe, in another time, a Hive Wizard received a signal. She was a fearsome sight, with three glowing green eyes and tough carapace for skin. Three Guardians surrounded her, pumping magazine after magazine of bullets into her that were absorbed harmlessly into a shield of energy. She didn't appear to pay them any attention.

"Hmmmmm," Dûl Incaru said. "A world full of secrets, murders, and trickery? Mother will want to know of this."

She idly waved her arm, and a moment later the three Guardians dropped dead. A vicious grin split her face.

"Oh, yes. Let's see if their cunning stands up to ours."

---

Major-General Vamah was a  loyal... soldier I guess
Emerald Falcon (Sein) was a loyal worldhopper!

here have a vote count 

Emerald Falcon (3): Amethyst Scorpion, Magenta Albatross, Saffron Iguana
Amethyst Scorpion (1): Emerald Falcon
Mint Heron (1): Mauve Crocodile
Salmon Meerkat (0): Mint Heron
Sunburst Toucan (0): Salmon Meerkat
                       

night five has begun and will end in 22 hours etc etc

PMs are still open

I can’t be bothered with a player list right now 

goodnight everyone 

(don’t worry we’re changing rollover time soon so this won’t happen again) 

(probably) 

Edited January 10, 2020 by Elbereth

[Saffron Iguana]

Well, ugh. I won't apologize for starting that lynch because I needed to know, but still.

An interesting factor is that there where, apparently, two bondsmiths that erased the votes on meerkat an toucan. I could see the vote on meerkat being erased by meerkat himself, or a team-mate if meerkat is evil, but I really don't get why someone would take out meerkat's vote on toucan.

Anyway, I'm catching up to what happened after I checked out yesterday.

@Salmon Meerkat, I've got two questions regarding your analysis. First, regarding Toucan, could you expand on why their alignment would be so telling? AFAIK, mine is the only one that would relate to theirs. Secondly, why does your read on axolotl depend on Albatros' read?

[Violet Axolotl]

...okay that's interesting.

Fyi I cancelled Scorpions vote so, I'm guessing its a matter of one of meerkats or Herons votes got moved onto Falcon instead or maybe it was one of them moving the others vote?

At least. I'm pretty sure I cancelled it... Something happened there for sure it seems

 

[Saffron Iguana]

51 minutes ago, Violet Axolotl said:

...okay that's interesting.

Fyi I cancelled Scorpions vote so, I'm guessing its a matter of one of meerkats or Herons votes got moved onto Falcon instead or maybe it was one of them moving the others vote?

At least. I'm pretty sure I cancelled it... Something happened there for sure it seems

 

Hmmm, that would work too. You cancelling the vote by scorpion, and then one of Minter heron or meerkat willshaping the other's vote would also result in this vote count. Meerkat willshaping heron's vote to falcon would make the most sense of those two, I think.

[Salmon Meerkat]

2 hours ago, Saffron Iguana said:

 

@Salmon Meerkat, I've got two questions regarding your analysis. First, regarding Toucan, could you expand on why their alignment would be so telling? AFAIK, mine is the only one that would relate to theirs. Secondly, why does your read on axolotl depend on Albatros' read?

...Yeah, for the first question, toucan's alignment would reveal more info about what happened from the first cycle. Plus, I think they've had just the right amount of content, not a super small amount, where there is almost nothing to analyze, but not so much where going through their content is likely to have dozens of false leads and lead in circles and on goose chases. 

For the second question, my read doesn't depend on Albatross' read, but it is influenced by it, as he is a known villager, therefore making me more likely to believe him. Part of the reason behind this is the fact that, despite most people not supporting the idea, people are more willing to confide in a known villager, therefore turning them into a ...Mayor?... type person. They know more because more people tell them more. 

2 hours ago, Violet Axolotl said:

...okay that's interesting.

Fyi I cancelled Scorpions vote so, I'm guessing its a matter of one of meerkats or Herons votes got moved onto Falcon instead or maybe it was one of them moving the others vote?

At least. I'm pretty sure I cancelled it... Something happened there for sure it seems

 

Yeah, I willshaped Heron's vote. When I placed the action I wasn't really expecting to survive. On the contrary, I was pleasantly surprised that I was still alive when I woke up this morning.