Saffron Iguana Posted January 12, 2020 Posted January 12, 2020 Okay, so not kangaroo then. In that case, one of meerkat or axolotl claimed an action by toucan or flamingo. Between Toucan and flamingo, flamingo has been a bit more active and involved, so is more likely to have been able to participate in such a scheme. Between meerkat and axolotl, I think meerkat is a bit more likely to be an elim, but ti could go either way. Because Meerkat claimed to be an elsecaller, I´m voting on flamingo.
Magenta Albatross Posted January 12, 2020 Posted January 12, 2020 I guess I’ll vote on Flamingo too. Meerkat. I wish I had more time to really look over stuff, but I am just way too sick right now.
Salmon Meerkat Posted January 12, 2020 Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, Violet Axolotl said: For the 8 people left we actually know a lot of actions that were done then. Iguana- claimed dustbringering on scorpion Albatross -unknown Weasel- claimed dustbringering on scorpion Meerkat- claimed vote manip Flamingo -not online over night Kangaroo -submitted anon message- however thats not counted as a action if im reading els post correctly Toucan - not online over night Axolotyl - cancelled vote I just want to point out that two people claimed to have dusted scorpion. Weasels claim is backed by Albatross, whi supposedly told him to place the kill, but no corroboration for Iguana's claim. Seeing that it is likely that kangaroo actually submitted the message, that means they didnt submit the kill. That leaves us with Iguana, Albatross, Flamingo, or Toucan. Seeing that albatross has a very big chance of being village, And flamingo and Toucan both appeared to have not been online over the night period. I was not able to verify this, but I'd be willing to believe whoever claimed this. kangaroo That leaves, iguana whose action hasn't been corroborated. Until I hear more from iguana as to if they can corroborate their action, I'm going to place my vote there. Edited January 12, 2020 by Salmon Meerkat Formatting of last paragraph. I hate mobile
Saffron Iguana Posted January 12, 2020 Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Salmon Meerkat said: kangaroo That leaves, iguana whose action hasn't been corroborated. Until I hear more from iguana as to if they can corroborate their action, I'm going to place my vote there. I can't. The logic is sound. I don't play much in PM's, having only contacted kangaroo this cycle myself, and all others where initiated by others, and I hadn't shared my actions in any of them. I've already claimed what I did, but as I discussed a couple of cycles back with crocodile, that doesn't actually prove anything. I could point to my part in the lynch of Zebra, but a number of people seem to think I'd be willing to bus there, so that's hardly a defense either. So yeah, this is a long-winded way of saying that the only person to whom I could prove that I didn't submit the kill is myself. And if all of you decide to lynch me for that, so be it, no hard feelings, I know I'd seriously consider lynching myself if I didn't know better (hell, I just pushed kangaroo for the same logic). Just promise me to keep up the activity, because it's going to be 4:2 next cycle, but with the inactivity going on, it might be worse than that for the village, and I'd hate it if this game ended up being an elim win due to inactivity. All that having been said, some quick notes for this lynch, if people decide to believe me, or the coming lynches if people don't. I can confirm Axolotl's observation that neither flamingo nor Toucan where online at all during the last night cycle. This means that the elim team has to be two-person at least, and hast to be one of axolotl or meerkat + one of flamingo or toucan. I think that of these 4, flamingo is the most likely to be evil, and Toucan is the least likely to be evil, simply because they've not been around to much at all, and the action claim needed some coordination to work out. And I'm getting too tired to be very coherent now. So let me repeat it again, in case I'm not around to do so after this cycle: be active! Inactivity will benefit the elims, not the village, and I think things are getting close enough that some coordination can allow the village to solve the game in short order. Don't make my mistake, talk to weasel and albatross so that things aren't done twice and that visible actions can reliably be claimed.
Violet Axolotl Posted January 12, 2020 Posted January 12, 2020 Blargh. But i dont want to lynch iguana >> not only do i trust them but i seriously worry about the silent thread possibilities I hope im not making a mistake by ignoring flamigo and toucan for the moment because they weren't on overnight... Sigh. I genuinely believe that c1 was not a bus but. Early busses have happened before and screwed with village a lot before. And if it was a bus it was a very well done one. I guess theres a degree of right now we're just looking at the actions.. Sigh kangaroo iguana If I'm honest theres part of me wondering why you've not been an elim target as of yet given your activity and the d1 events so that thoughts making me more comfortable in voting you but i still seriously don't think its actually you, but i don't have any better ideas :/
Salmon Meerkat Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) Heres a vote count. Meerkat (1): flamingo Flamingo (2): iguana, Albatross Iguana (2): Meerkat, axolotl Edited January 13, 2020 by Salmon Meerkat
Fifth Scholar he/him Posted January 13, 2020 Author Posted January 13, 2020 Merinira found herself, quite by accident, on the thirty-eighth floor. She did not fear it, as most did—she trusted her master to not rip one of her most effective tools to shreds—but it was not where she had intended to scout. For her reports to Kareana, she was to do the forty-fifth floor, and Re-Shephir wanted the levels around her cleared of humans to prevent an “unfortunate” incident like Radler’s again, and so wanted false reports of danger spread about the floods immediately around her. She had seemed genuinely worried about the Worldhoppers after the fight, and was perceived to be greatly weakened by those in the group who had visited in the immediate aftermath of the attacks; nevertheless, Merinira’s group had forged along, not willing to risk an assault against such a powerful being. The Lord of Hate rewarded ambition, but that was a step too far. Walking past the murals, the intricately decorated ceiling above her head, Merinira approached the chamber with the gem column rising into the air. She knelt, and watched as the oily black Midnight Essence curled around the pillar, consolidating into a face which gazed disapprovingly down at her. WHY HAVE YOU RETURNED HERE, CHILD? As always, the voice was in Merinira’s head. “Mother”—that word had always felt strange in her mouth, yet Re-Shephir insisted on its use—“I was drawn here, somehow, when I tried to get to the forty-fifth floor. I thought it was you, and you had instructions for me.” A general aura of confusion emanated from the Unmade, mingling with her own doubts. I DO NOT HAVE THE POWER TO DRAW YOU HERE IN THAT MANNER, CHILD, the reply came. SOMETHING ELSE—SOMEONE ELSE—HAS DONE THIS. AND YET IT IS ON THIS VERY LEVEL, GROUNDS WHICH I THOUGHT WERE MINE. Re-Shephir’s projected voice grew in resolution. IT IS GOOD YOUR INTUITION HAS DRAWN YOU HERE. I KNOW THIS CHAMBER, BUT SEARCH ALL OTHER ROOMS ON THIS LEVEL FOR ANYTHING AS YET UNSEEN WHICH MAY FOIL OUR DESIGNS. YOU MAY REPORT TO KAREANA LATER. Four shadowed figures materialised from the stone floor, twisting into the form of men with spears and shields. THESE WILL GUARD YOU. Merinira bowed. “Yes, Great One,” she replied briefly, rising and heading for the smaller rooms on the floor, separated by a door which led into a small antechamber. The four shadows tailed her, and they entered. The room was dark, and also, as Merinira could tell, completely empty, as she remembered. In fact, she had been here numerous times. In the centre, the working lift system hung; in each of the cardinal directions, a door was set. She had apparently come from the west door, and thus proceeded directly across to the east, trying the handle. It was locked, and three to four millennia of crem buildup made opening it a risky proposition anyway. Unlike the other doors in the hall, the Mother had not known about it, and thus could not slow its natural decay. So she tried the north door, expecting a similar result, and to her surprise felt it open fluidly. Unlocked and unjammed? She would have to be incredibly cautious. Checking that the four shadows were still accompanying her, she stepped into the room. Upon first glance, there was nothing special about it. It was small and square—only a few feet long in either direction—and tiled, with eight large blocks, alternating black and white, forming the floor. The ceiling and walls were bare, except for a window high above which let in light. And in the middle of the room, at the junction of the central four squares, stood a tall, thin, fragile object. The sense within Merinira flared, and she knew that this was what she needed to find. But what was so special about it? It didn’t look to be a fabrial, and had no other distinctive features. She tiptoed around it, noting with a vague discomfiture that the shadowed guardians she had been assigned were being winked out one by one, but her curiosity had her seized in a tight grip. She rounded the corner of the object, stepping between it and the window, and breathed in sharply. It was an enormous looking-glass, which cast every detail of her face in sharp relief. However, the background portrayed by the mirror looked...odd, with enormous squares similar to the floor behind her, but forested, with odd inhabitants roaming about. She glanced around her, and with horror, Merinira found she could not see the chamber in Urithiru any longer. Where on Roshar was she? Was this even Roshar? She doubted the looking-glass was a Perpendicularity. With nothing else to do, she began walking towards the next square of ground, marvelling at how slowly she moved. Would she ever get around this place, or find a way out? The ground on which she was standing seemed to never end, yet she always got closer to the edge of her square. Gritting her teeth, she began running, breathing heavily. She would make it out of this place, and— “You won’t get very far going that way,” a voice interrupted. “Why, here, it takes all the running you can do to stay in place. If you want to get anywhere, you’ve got to run at least twice as fast as that!” She gaped, and swivelled to face the voice. It was a Queen, decked all in red from head to toe, and it stood easily twice as tall as Merinira herself, on a square of the same colour which was diagonal from her. The Queen had an imperious, though not unkindly look, and she frowned down as she spoke. “What do you need to do here, anyway?” “Your...Majesty, I need to find a way out of here,” Merinira replied. “And what was that you said earlier about movement? It sounded like nonsense.” The Queen simply laughed, shaking her head. “You may call it nonsense if you like,” she replied, “but I’ve heard nonsense, compared with which that would be as sensible as a dictionary!” She chuckled again, then started as she saw a white figure appear two squares to the left and one square forward from her, and two squares forward and one to the left from Merinira. The chuckle sounded more nervous this time. “Well, I do hate to leave you hanging, but I will have an excellent tactic if he captures you next turn, so…” With that, the Queen flitted away, and she was left standing alone again. Nothing the Red Queen had said made sense at all. Except that last bit. Captures me? I’m hanging? With mounting trepidation, she saw the white figure consolidate into a knight riding towards her on a Meerkat—she had no idea what that was, but the name had popped into her head—and it drew an Axolotl-tipped Blade from its sheath, swinging at Merinira, who could not seem to move out of its path. It connected, and she fell, being dragged by invisible hands off the field of squares. Perhaps she wasn’t dead, but she wasn’t getting back to Re-Shephir any time soon either, and it looked to be a long period of adjustment as she learned the rules of this strange new world. From the Archives, regarding the Radiant Scouting Disaster: Today wasn’t very interesting. I walked through more hallways, jumping at my own shadow, marking down the paths. Even despite all the pretty colors, all of Urithiru is starting to feel the same. I don’t remember the last time I saw the sun. Apparently some excitement happened back here while I was gone - everyone around me is buzzing about it as I write. They caught another odium-person, it sounds like. I’m so glad I wasn’t here! I want to stay as far away from any excitement as possible. I miss you, Danerin. I hope this is all over soon. Love, Paleli Saffron Iguana was a Odium Sympathizer Worldhopper! Vote Count Onyx Flamingo (2): Magenta Albatross, Saffron Iguana Saffron Iguana (2): Salmon Meerkat, Violet Axolotl Salmon Meerkat (1): Onyx Flamingo Night 6 has begun! It will end in 22-ish hours, at 9 PM EST on 13 January. PMs are still open. Credit to El for the letter portion of the writeup! Player List 1. Amber Vulture: Jashi, Stormwarden Radiant Worldhopper2. Amethyst Scorpion: Jesh, Lost Axehound Radiant Worldhopper3. Chartreuse Penguin: Taladir, Gambler Radiant Worldhopper4. Coral Swan: Germaine, Scholar Radiant Worldhopper5. Cream Tuatara: Dfyan, Scholar Radiant Worldhopper6. Emerald Falcon: Sein, Inquisitive Radiant Worldhopper 7. Indigo Weasel: Adhom Inem, Ardent8. Ivory Dragonfly: Krask, Conspiracy Theorist Sympathizer Worldhopper 9. Magenta Albatross: Jonan Wikim, Lost Axehound (Gren)10. Mauve Crocodile: Sernes, Paranoid Scout Radiant Worldhopper11. Mint Heron: Sam, Once a Darkeyes Radiant Worldhopper 12. Onyx Flamingo: Kir, Kleptomaniac Scout13. Opal Lion: Tnaidar, Scout Radiant Worldhopper14. Pearl Chameleon: Purrl, Adolin’s Former Girlfriend Radiant Worldhopper15. Plum Rhinoceros: Logalog, Scholar Sympathizer Worldhopper16. Quartz Zebra: Arauna Khadal, Adolin’s Former Girlfriend Sympathizer Worldhopper17. Saffron Iguana: Merinira, Scout Sympathizer Worldhopper 18. Sage Kangaroo: Gilglin, Ardent (Devotary of the Mind) 19. Salmon Meerkat: Cadamum, Ghostblood Recruit20. Scarlet Octopus: Max Mercury, Past Lives Sympathizer Worldhopper 21. Sunburst Toucan: Tafud, Slightly Crazy22. Taupe Gecko: Brana, Scholar Radiant Worldhopper23. Turquoise Gorilla: Bomer, Gambler Radiant Worldhopper 24. Violet Axolotl: Adi, Anxious 3
Violet Axolotl Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 ಥ_ಥ What do you mean there's still another eliminator Blargh. Okay. I really didn't want Iguana to actually be evil but whelp that happened >> Well. Plenty of stuff to analyze in this case then! uhhh in the meantime thoughts: Albatross- cleared for obvious reasons Weasel- cleared i believe. I don't think Iguana would have claimed their kill had they been on the same team Meerkat- I'd argue myself and meerkat are clearedish for lynching Iguana but busses have already happened this game Kangaroo- soft clearing since their only game relevant 'post' so far has been condemning iguana Toucan- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Flamingo- 2 initial thought theories- 1: Iguanas alternate lynch option, maybe since that was iguanas vote thing trustworthy? 2: both evil and iguana would have been further hard trusted. regardless, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ BLaaaarhghalhglahglahlhg Thinking thoughts needing to thing thonk i dont blagh who. WHO Highly recommend people prewarning peoples of actions maybe if possible that would be nice? O_O Can we skip the night, i dont like this I'm not paranoid at all right now nope. I legitimately trusted iguana and now i'm questioning everything. 1
Elbereth she/her Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 Sunburst Toucan should have died of inactivity at the start of D6! (oops) They have as of now been replaced by a pinchhitter.
Sunburst Toucan Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) Groggily, Tafud wondered what he was doing, where the chasmfiend that stomped all over his head had gone, and where he was, not in any particular order. What in Braize was going on? He rubbed at his head. His fingers found a few tender spots. Had someone clubbed him over the head? Or was it a little more violet wine than was wise? He remembered his name, at least. And he wanted a drink. Not wine, this time. Water. oOo Hello there! As Elbereth has announced, I am the new upgraded Sunburst Toucan Mark 2.0! As I have absolutely no idea what's going on this game, let's just pretend someone clubbed Sunburst Toucan Mark 1.0 over the head, as I endeavour to catch up on...whatever's been happening. I see a bunch of dead Eliminators in the player list anyway so I guess y'all can't be doing that badly for yourselves. Ta! Edited January 13, 2020 by Sunburst Toucan
Indigo Weasel Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 7 hours ago, Violet Axolotl said: Highly recommend people prewarning peoples of actions maybe if possible that would be nice? I think this is a good idea unless they're a Skybreaker. BTW, I'm a Willshaper but I didn't use my vote manipulation.
Violet Axolotl Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Indigo Weasel said: I think this is a good idea unless they're a Skybreaker. BTW, I'm a Willshaper but I didn't use my vote manipulation. Good point. Unless its someone they definitely trust and via pm. That sorta thing def to keep out of thread though for sure. Ill be letting people know mine via pm since its a night specific action but yeah. I appreciate you letting us know though
Salmon Meerkat Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 So I'm an elsecaller, as I mentioned last turn, so I won't be putting in an action, as my ability is only passive. . But I have no way to prove that unless someone dustbrings me, so that would be a good way to validate my action, if we have any dustbringers, go ahead and hit me (But please coordinate with others so I don't get multiple kills against me, and end up dying, because that would be sad) So yeah, that would be a good way to account for my action (Or lack thereof) while also accounting for a dustbringer action, without killing anyone.
Sunburst Toucan Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 Still catching up on...everything o_O Death is lighter than a feather, pinch-hitting is heavier than a mountain. (Tafud wondered where that thought had come from.) Well, you have GM confirmation that Toucan Mark 1.0 idled out for two cycles in a row, or you wouldn't be dealing with me, Toucan Mark 2.0 Also, as far as I can tell, Toucan Mark 1.0 did not do anything at all this game - that GM PM is deader than a Triton moon. He did have a lovely conversation with someone about the Mandalorian though - you know who you are, hmu xoxo Immediate thoughts since I can't guarantee I won't be cruelly slain after having taken my first steps into a larger world: -I basically won't be playing this the same as Toucan Mark 1.0, sorry not sorry. Pinch-hitting is the pathway to playstyle changes some consider...unnatural. -<Indigo Weasel, Magenta Albatross, Onyx Flamingo, Sage Kangaroo, Salmon Meerkat, Sunburst Toucan, Violet Axolotl> are left. (More for my benefit as I'm basically Out of the Loop for pretty much the whole game.) -I'd guess 1-2 more Eliminators; any more than that and I'm screaming into the vooOIiid of existence like Captain Beefheart. - @Elbereth, @Fifth Scholar - If more than one player puts in a successful kill on a target, does the write-up reflect how many killers there are? -Tentative Trusts: Magenta Albatross, Sage Kangaroo, Violet Axolotl, Salmon Meerkat I preface this comment with the observation that this Odiminion team seems to love to throw teammates to the bus-shaped wolves a lot, which is really messing with how I'm looking at things. I am also extremely paranoid. That being said, Magenta Albatross is probably my strongest among the tentative trusts right now. (This can change, of course ) Basic rationale is pretty much the same as (likely) most people: Albatross incited a lynch on Rhino when the Odiminion team didn't need one. [The obvious counterpoint is Burnt and WPG but at the moment, I'm not necessarily feeling it - it would also require the Eliminator team to decide to yield both Rhino and one kill, which stretches plausibility, at least for me.] Albatross has also claimed the Octopus kill. I actually have further reservations about the Octopus kill, but they will hinge on what El or Fifth have to say in answer to my question. Sage Kangaroo for similar reasons - playstyle issues aside, Sage instigated a lynch on Iguana by directing attention to Iguana. Perhaps the rationale could be that Iguana is capable of defending themselves, and yet given how much trust Iguana seemed to have accrued, it just reads to me like there's little reason for an Odiminion to do it. Trust status: weaker than Albatross. I'd be interested in why @Sage Kangaroo didn't vote for Iguana despite making a case against Iguana, as that would help me feel a bit more secure in considering Sage to be trustworthy. [Hmu <3 xoxo] [Note: There's one caveat here, which I will explain later.] Another consideration that leaves me a bit more positively inclined towards Sage is that Iguana called for a Dustbringer strike against three players: Sage, Heron, and Swan. Now, inductive reasoning is fallible, etcetera, but both Heron and Swan turned out to be Village. And seeing that there were active Dustbringers in the game, it seems a little risky to call down a potential Flamestrike on a teammate. So that nudges me to think a little positively of Sage too. I am actually a bit more inclined to trust Axolotl, if only because their reaction and feelings about the Iguana lynch seem rather genuine to me, and I would expect a villager to be a lot more torn up about getting it right than an Eliminator would be. They also sealed the lynch (almost) by voting second for Iguana. However - see caveat later. Meerkat gives me terribad feelings. I worry I'm biased because their reasoning for their initial vote on Kangaroo last cycle appears to me to be a little too quick. That being said, Meerkat was the first to throw a vote on Iguana, and more crucially, was the one to inaugurate the 'look at actions' line of reasoning, which Axolotl took up. Meekat also claimed Elsecaller, which, coupled with their role in shifting the vote to Iguana, makes me more inclined to trust. See caveat later. -Unsure: Indigo Weasel This goes down to gut, unfortunately. Weasel strikes me as having practically no other voting interactions than Rhino, who by that point, had been outed. At the same time, Weasel has claimed to scan Albatross (though I note that Weasel's scan is the weaker of the two), and has ostensibly been involved in the Scorpion kill at Albatross's behest. Toucan Mark 1.0 is a freakin' traffic intersection, and some of you guys are lit up more. For someone who seems to have obtained some modicum of trust, Weasel has left barely any footprint in this game in terms of voting patterns and interactions, and so I'm naturally wary of that. I'm also wary because Weasel's trustworthiness at this point has been anchored largely to Albatross. That being said, Weasel has been willing to reveal their actions, so there's that. -Dubious: Onyx Flamingo Gut again. I feel like Onyx has been positioning themselves in a very careful way. Their actual voting patterns include just Meerkat and Rhino. I don't consider Rhino especially indicative since everyone and their horse was voting for Rhino, but what interests me - similarly to Weasel - is just how disconnected Onyx is from Eliminator voting interactions, which I find both curious, and potentially, worrisome. Finally, they voted with Iguana, for Meerkat, which leaves me feeling a bit meh about them. -I don't have strong cases or thoughts right now partly because of information overload since there's a lot more content than I can handle over the past couple of days and I haven't followed this game until Elbereth hit the Bat-Signal for pinch-hitting. -The caveat I mentioned has to do with the Sage-Violet-Salmon triad. Basically, given that this Eliminator team has shown a slightly higher risk appetite, it's not clear to me that the Iguana vote is necessarily exculpatory. Kangaroo, for instance, might not have foreseen or expected the Iguana lynch to take off - ditto for Meerkat. And Axolotl could be comfortable with the 50-50 risk of having Iguana killed. (I have in mind something that went down in El's Lord of the Rings game here.) That being said, this would just mean that at most one of the triad could still be an Eliminator, and my sense would be that it is least likely to be Axolotl. Then again, maybe I'm just paranoid. -I haven't done close reading/analysis of Eliminator posts. I will if I have the time going forwards, but not right now. This should at least be a start. -tldr; if I had to, I'd call for a scan on Indigo and a flamestrike on Flamingo. I'm also comfortable with a flamestrike on myself, if it helps people settle their ongoing concerns about the D1 lynch, though it's not really clear to me how informative it will be by this late point of the game. 1
Magenta Albatross Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 So, I'm gonna go through and do an actual quick reread of everything soon (assuming I still feel up to it), but I just wanted to make a quick comment. 7 minutes ago, Salmon Meerkat said: So I'm an elsecaller, as I mentioned last turn, so I won't be putting in an action, as my ability is only passive. . But I have no way to prove that unless someone dustbrings me, so that would be a good way to validate my action, if we have any dustbringers, go ahead and hit me (But please coordinate with others so I don't get multiple kills against me, and end up dying, because that would be sad) So yeah, that would be a good way to account for my action (Or lack thereof) while also accounting for a dustbringer action, without killing anyone. This actually wouldn't prove anything, I don't think. Surviving the kill would prove you're an Elsecaller (though there is the possibility one of us, either an elim or villager, is a Windrunner and they're protecting you), but it wouldn't actually prove you didn't put the elim kill in. Since the Elsecaller's ability is passive, they can put in the kill and survive any kill attempts. This almost feels like you're begging for someone to try this so you can "prove" you're village. Now, I'm not certain you're an elim (I still wanna do my reread to make sure), but I think you're probably my biggest suspicion right now for this post alone.
Elbereth she/her Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 41 minutes ago, Sunburst Toucan said: - @Elbereth, @Fifth Scholar - If more than one player puts in a successful kill on a target, does the write-up reflect how many killers there are? No.
Salmon Meerkat Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Magenta Albatross said: So, I'm gonna go through and do an actual quick reread of everything soon (assuming I still feel up to it), but I just wanted to make a quick comment. This actually wouldn't prove anything, I don't think. Surviving the kill would prove you're an Elsecaller (though there is the possibility one of us, either an elim or villager, is a Windrunner and they're protecting you), but it wouldn't actually prove you didn't put the elim kill in. Since the Elsecaller's ability is passive, they can put in the kill and survive any kill attempts. This almost feels like you're begging for someone to try this so you can "prove" you're village. Now, I'm not certain you're an elim (I still wanna do my reread to make sure), but I think you're probably my biggest suspicion right now for this post alone. I guess you're right. I mean, it wouldn't really prove that I dont submit a kill tonight. I guess my thought was that someone last turn said that they would be mad if they found out I was lying. My thought was to prove to them my claim last cycle for the sake of proving my honesty. I mean I feel like that post of mine wasnt a justifiable post to make me your biggest suspicion, and I feel like you're tunneling on me a bit. I mean last cycle, there were multiple other people who had a votes, including my vote on Kangaroo, which looking back on it, seemed a bit convoluted reasoning, and probably a bit of my own tunneling against him. I mean I started the lynch on iguana for crying out loud, because their posts and reasoning was flawed. No one else seemed to have noticed it until I pointed it out. I dont think anyone else would have noticed on time, but because of me, we got an elim.
Magenta Albatross Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, Salmon Meerkat said: I guess you're right. I mean, it wouldn't really prove that I dont submit a kill tonight. I guess my thought was that someone last turn said that they would be mad if they found out I was lying. My thought was to prove to them my claim last cycle for the sake of proving my honesty. I mean I feel like that post of mine wasnt a justifiable post to make me your biggest suspicion, and I feel like you're tunneling on me a bit. I mean last cycle, there were multiple other people who had a votes, including my vote on Kangaroo, which looking back on it, seemed a bit convoluted reasoning, and probably a bit of my own tunneling against him. I mean I started the lynch on iguana for crying out loud, because their posts and reasoning was flawed. No one else seemed to have noticed it until I pointed it out. I dont think anyone else would have noticed on time, but because of me, we got an elim. I mean, to be fair, I only said you were my biggest suspicion because I can barely remember anything about anyone who’s left besides for Axolotl, Weasel, and Toucan, who I trust (for now). I did say I’m not certain you’re an elim (which probably doesn’t naturally imply how uncertain I am I guess), so there’s that too. Anyway, I’m willing to believe you for your response. That seems kind of like a villager thing to do, though I think it would be better if we didn’t waste kills on a player who’s supposedly gonna survive and instead try and kill someone we think might be an elim.
Indigo Weasel Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) @Sunburst Toucan, would you mind telling the thread what you're going to do tonight, or at least telling someone else in a PM? Edited January 14, 2020 by Indigo Weasel
Onyx Flamingo Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 Well, glad I didn't die while I was away. Looks like we have one elim left. 8 hours ago, Sunburst Toucan said: -Dubious: Onyx Flamingo Gut again. I feel like Onyx has been positioning themselves in a very careful way. Their actual voting patterns include just Meerkat and Rhino. I don't consider Rhino especially indicative since everyone and their horse was voting for Rhino, but what interests me - similarly to Weasel - is just how disconnected Onyx is from Eliminator voting interactions, which I find both curious, and potentially, worrisome. Finally, they voted with Iguana, for Meerkat, which leaves me feeling a bit meh about them. -I don't have strong cases or thoughts right now partly because of information overload since there's a lot more content than I can handle over the past couple of days and I haven't followed this game until Elbereth hit the Bat-Signal for pinch-hitting. -The caveat I mentioned has to do with the Sage-Violet-Salmon triad. Basically, given that this Eliminator team has shown a slightly higher risk appetite, it's not clear to me that the Iguana vote is necessarily exculpatory. Kangaroo, for instance, might not have foreseen or expected the Iguana lynch to take off - ditto for Meerkat. And Axolotl could be comfortable with the 50-50 risk of having Iguana killed. (I have in mind something that went down in El's Lord of the Rings game here.) That being said, this would just mean that at most one of the triad could still be an Eliminator, and my sense would be that it is least likely to be Axolotl. Then again, maybe I'm just paranoid. -I haven't done close reading/analysis of Eliminator posts. I will if I have the time going forwards, but not right now. This should at least be a start. -tldr; if I had to, I'd call for a scan on Indigo and a flamestrike on Flamingo. I'm also comfortable with a flamestrike on myself, if it helps people settle their ongoing concerns about the D1 lynch, though it's not really clear to me how informative it will be by this late point of the game. I would like to put in my 3 cents here. First, I object to a flamestrike on myself (for obvious reasons of not being evil, also it sounds quite unpleasent). Second, I object to your claim that "I have been positioning myself in a very careful way." Specifically, to the word careful. As in, you are wrong. @Sunburst Toucan Please specify how I was disconnected from the elim voting interactions. Also, I keep saying I'll review all the posts and keep failing. But I suppose now I should go back and at least find out why people tried to kill me... ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Kir's eyes slowly blinked open. Why was the world shaking? Earthquake?? He flailed for an instance before the pain rushed into his head like a tsunami. Ah, the world wasn't spinning, his vision was. Kir closed his eyes for a few minutes, steadying himself, and began to look around. Scattered rock was strewn about and faint light shone from the top of the shaft. Huh, he was in a shaft. Why was he in a shaft? It looked familiar too. Odd. The shaft was maybe 20 ft tall, but no he realized it was more of a steep slope than a true shaft. Kir began to search the rock for a way to escape. Eventually he found a series of footholds in the steep slope, and began climbing his way back towards the faint light emanating from what was presumably an entrance. Curious, what was this for anyways. He paused on his climb, looking back at what appeared to be a collapsed entrance that the shaft would have led to. The collapse appeared old, so at least he hadn't caused it. Kir reached to the top of his head and felt dried blood crusted on top of it. Well, two birds with one stone. Amnesia and head pain explained. What next? He reached the top of the shaft. Kir quickly recognized markings he'd left upon the wall to mark the revolving door that acted as an entrance. Aha, revolving door! So he hadn't forgotten all of his memories about this place. A few others came rushing back with it. He was in the tunnels of Urithiru, and there were sympathizers of Odium afoot! This mystery would need to be thoroughly investigated!
Indigo Weasel Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) Here's a list of people who have claimed roles for this turn: -Me, Willshaper (no proof) -Albatross, claimed to me in PM, up to them to say it in the thread -Meerkat, Elsecaller (provable if there's a Dustbringer) And people who haven't: -@Onyx Flamingo, one post this turn -@Sage Kangaroo, no posts and if they did post it would probably be nonsense as usual -Sunburst Toucan, pinch hitter, has posted in thread, PMed me to ask about the game so far (did they PM anyone else?) -@Violet Axolotl, has posted in the thread More thoughts: -Why haven't there really been any Skybreaker scans announced? If you scanned people, please announce it in the thread, we're fairly close to solving the game. -Sage Kangaroo is a very annoying situation to deal with. It'd be nice if someone could scan them. TBH though, killing them wouldn't make that much of a difference, considering how little they provide to the thread. Have they PMed anyone else? They PMed me near the start for RP reasons, but didn't talk about the game. -For kills, I wouldn't recommend wasting a kill on Meerkat. It wouldn't even prove that they're not using the elim kill this turn. Edited January 14, 2020 by Indigo Weasel
Violet Axolotl Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, Indigo Weasel said: Here's a list of people who have claimed actions: -Me, Willshaper (no proof) -Albatross, claimed to me in PM, up to them to say it in the thread -Meerkat, Elsecaller (provable if there's a Dustbringer) And people who haven't: -@Onyx Flamingo, one post this turn -@Sage Kangaroo, no posts and if they did post it would probably be nonsense as usual -Sunburst Toucan, pinch hitter, has posted in thread, PMed me to ask about the game so far (did they PM anyone else?) -@Violet Axolotl, has posted in the thread More thoughts: -Why haven't there really been any Skybreaker scans announced? If you scanned people, please announce it in the thread, we're fairly close to solving the game. -Sage Kangaroo is a very annoying situation to deal with. It'd be nice if someone could scan them. TBH though, killing them wouldn't make that much of a difference, considering how little they provide to the thread. Have they PMed anyone else? They PMed me near the start for RP reasons, but didn't talk about the game. -For kills, I wouldn't recommend wasting a kill on Meerkat. It wouldn't even prove that they're not using the elim kill this turn. I've claimed my action to albatross, toucan has a hint sorta as well (enjoy over thinking that its really not clear at aall) oh yeah, been talking to toucan in pms so yes theyve pmed others I admit I'm surprised by the lack of scans myself. Unless we're either been killing the scanned people off as soon as they are scanned, or the scanners have been taken out in the kills or something. I don't have any to share at this point- last time i had the chance to scan they went and died a day later so isnt helpful for us now at all.
Magenta Albatross Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 42 minutes ago, Indigo Weasel said: Why haven't there really been any Skybreaker scans announced? If you scanned people, please announce it in the thread, we're fairly close to solving the game. To be fair, my one scan died soon after I scanned them. 25 minutes ago, Violet Axolotl said: I've claimed my action to albatross, toucan has a hint sorta as well (enjoy over thinking that its really not clear at aall) oh yeah, been talking to toucan in pms so yes theyve pmed others ....time to reread our PM, because I do not remember that. Also, I’m a Bondsmith. I didn’t cancel any votes during the day because I was too sick and tired and just forgot.
Fifth Scholar he/him Posted January 14, 2020 Author Posted January 14, 2020 Cycle closed! Please stop PMing. The Day will be up shortly.
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