Question 20

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

I finished editing in a handful of character concepts to my post in the character thread. Feedback would be welcome.

It includes a more in-depth covering of Epoch and a possible profile for Epoch's head enforcer.

It also includes a totally unrelated epic that I thought could be fun. Her abilities are totally not a joke about quantum physics, nope 

It also includes a maple that follows a certain epic.

Edited June 25, 2018 by Drake Marshall

[Bladestorm]

 

2 hours ago, The Young Pyromancer said:

Nice to mee- Oops!  Didn't mean to blow your hand off!

Nicroburst is an epic killer right? How exactly does he do that with no offence?

[MacThorstenson he/him]

@Hemalurgic Headshot 

Similarly to how prof’s powers could hurt him, but weren’t his weakness, being wrong about something and being corrected by someone would Cause his creation powers to shut off. 

If he is shown to be wrong by someone he would consider an inferior in that subject, then all of his powers shut off. 

 

 

Also, what factions do we have right now? We have Epoch’s faction and the belt. Any others?

Edited June 25, 2018 by MacThorstenson

[The Young Pyromancer he/him]

29 minutes ago, Bladestorm said:

Nicroburst is an epic killer right? How exactly does he do that with no offence?

He's a bad Epic killer.  And you'll see.  Maybe.

[Bladestorm]

58 minutes ago, MacThorstenson said:

@Hemalurgic Headshot 

Similarly to how prof’s powers could hurt him, but weren’t his weakness, being wrong about something and being corrected by someone would Cause his creation powers to shut off. 

If he is shown to be wrong by someone he would consider an inferior in that subject, then all of his powers shut off. 

 

 

Also, what factions do we have right now? We have Epoch’s faction and the belt. Any others?

Also Armageddon kind of and the circle shield, although I don’t think the shield was posted here. Its in the character thread.

EDIT: Seriously considering changing the belt the the balloon. All members are required to have a balloon tattoo.

Edited June 25, 2018 by Bladestorm

[Hemalurgic Headshot he/him]

@Drake Marshall did you realize that Quietus is the name of a character from the webcomic Folklore? It’s a good comic, about fallen superheroes in a dystopia (sounds familiar...).

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

1 hour ago, Hemalurgic Headshot said:

@Drake Marshall did you realize that Quietus is the name of a character from the webcomic Folklore? It’s a good comic, about fallen superheroes in a dystopia (sounds familiar...).

Didn't know that. Maybe I'll give the comic a look.

I picked the name because it is another double pun 

EDIT: Also, I was bored, and have now created PRT classifications for each of this RP's epics. The PRT (parahuman response team) is a government agency dedicated to dealing with superhumans, from Worm.

Not sure if all of them are accurate, but @Arraenae can correct me if not.

They are edited in at the bottom of my post in the character thread.

Edited June 25, 2018 by Drake Marshall

[Edgedancer he/him]

3 hours ago, Drake Marshall said:

EDIT: Also, I was bored, and have now created PRT classifications for each of this RP's epics. The PRT (parahuman response team) is a government agency dedicated to dealing with superhumans, from Worm.

Not sure if all of them are accurate, but @Arraenae can correct me if not.

They are edited in at the bottom of my post in the character thread.

Not exactly an expert here but seeing how her lances extend a good bit, Ray should probably have a Blaster rating. Voidgaze should also probably get something for her resurrection.

[Comatose he/him]

Sorry it took me so long to catch up.  The weekend was really busy.  

Personally, I would prefer for this city not to have a single epic in charge.  I kind of like the idea of it being relatively ignored due to Calgary getting way more focus and power being relatively decentralized in Edmonton.

The time travel weirdness makes me nervous but will abide by the group decision as people seem to like it.

Another city wide weirdness idea - I just finished a book called The Buried Giant in which a strange mist causes people to become forgetful.   What if there is an epic caused mist like that which comes out at night or something, causing people to stay in doors or risk becoming disoriented and forgetful?  It could lead to some fun sequences if people end up outside after dark, and one of the plot points could be hunting for the epic creating the mist.  It could also help explain why things are disorganized.  

Edit: It might even be a kind of safe place for epics whose weaknesses have been revealed or are on the run. If someone tried to find you or knows your weakness, you can trick them out into the mist and let them become forgetful and escape.  

 

Edit #2: Also my main critique of “maples” is it doesn’t seem like a term canadians (especially Western Canadians) would actually come up with - more likely to be something someone else came up with and applied to them.  

[Bladestorm]

7 minutes ago, Comatose said:

Sorry it took me so long to catch up.  The weekend was really busy.  

Personally, I would prefer for this city not to have a single epic in charge.  I kind of like the idea of it being relatively ignored due to Calgary getting way more focus and power being relatively decentralized in Edmonton.

The time travel weirdness makes me nervous but will abide by the group decision as people seem to like it.

Another city wide weirdness idea - I just finished a book called The Buried Giant in which a strange mist causes people to become forgetful.   What if there is an epic caused mist like that which comes out at night or something, causing people to stay in doors or risk becoming disoriented and forgetful?  It could lead to some fun sequences if people end up outside after dark, and one of the plot points could be hunting for the epic creating the mist.  It could also help explain why things are disorganized.  

Edit: It might even be a kind of safe place for epics whose weaknesses have been revealed or are on the run. If someone tried to find you or knows your weakness, you can trick them out into the mist and let them become forgetful and escape.  

We could just have Epoch straight up be dead, so that there’s no current leadership. I think we need more factions if we’re going to run it like that, though.

[Edgedancer he/him]

3 minutes ago, Comatose said:

Sorry it took me so long to catch up.  The weekend was really busy.  

Personally, I would prefer for this city not to have a single epic in charge.  I kind of like the idea of it being relatively ignored due to Calgary getting way more focus and power being relatively decentralized in Edmonton.

The time travel weirdness makes me nervous but will abide by the group decision as people seem to like it.

Another city wide weirdness idea - I just finished a book called The Buried Giant in which a strange mist causes people to become forgetful.   What if there is an epic caused mist like that which comes out at night or something, causing people to stay in doors or risk becoming disoriented and forgetful?  It could lead to some fun sequences if people end up outside after dark, and one of the plot points could be hunting for the epic creating the mist.  It could also help explain why things are disorganized.  

 

I suppose we could merge the Epoch idea with my other idea of the Epic in charge being too weakened to keep ruling. (Either because the injury was caused by his weakness or something along the lines of accelerated aging, which resurrection wouldn’t reset.)

It would have the added benefit that, if the timezones end up being even more inconvinient than real life time zones, we can have Epoch keel over at a moment's notice to get rid of them. Maybe also release the rival Epic out of a slowed time Zone he was imprisoned in, to shake up things even more.

...you say Buried Giant, I hear Mistborn. It's certainly an option. Just for full disclosure, we might want it to have some unnatural color instead of white. Either that or Voidgaze might get a gig as the local Survivor.

[Comatose he/him]

20 minutes ago, Bladestorm said:

We could just have Epoch straight up be dead, so that there’s no current leadership. I think we need more factions if we’re going to run it like that, though.

I kind of like the idea of it being decentralized for a while (like Epoch being a power in the city, but not the only one).  I don't think it would be hard to come up with factions.  We could even have some Maple/Vanilla led factions.  

17 minutes ago, Edgedancer said:

I suppose we could merge the Epoch idea with my other idea of the Epic in charge being too weakened to keep ruling. (Either because the injury was caused by his weakness or something along the lines of accelerated aging, which resurrection wouldn’t reset.)

It would have the added benefit that, if the timezones end up being even more inconvinient than real life time zones, we can have Epoch keel over at a moment's notice to get rid of them. Maybe also release the rival Epic out of a slowed time Zone he was imprisoned in, to shake up things even more.

...you say Buried Giant, I hear Mistborn. It's certainly an option. Just for full disclosure, we might want it to have some unnatural color instead of white. Either that or Voidgaze might get a gig as the local Survivor.

I really like the "epic too weak to keep ruling" idea, but would personally prefer it to be 'too weak to continue ruling their large portion of the city'.  I might be the odd one out here, which is fine if that's the case, but I really like the idea of distinguishing Edmonton from previous threads (other than Portland) to make it a little more chaotic.

The "coming out a night" part is from Mistborn definitely - in The Buried Giant the mist was always there, but I thought it would be better to make it non-constant for RP purposes.  The forgetfulness effect doesn't have to be mist related - it could have different physical manifestations.  I like the idea of it being a fun colour though. 

This idea is continuing to develop for me though (feel free to say if you don't like it): What if this epic doesn't know she or he is an epic?  They produce the forgetting mist every time they fall asleep or become unconscious, and thus are totally unaware of what they are doing.  During the day, they go through their life as a regular (but perhaps somewhat cranky/irritable) human, and meanwhile all of these different factions are trying to find them to either use the power to their advantage, or to remove the effect so Edmonton can be more effectively organized.  

 

EDIT: To be clear, if people like the timezones thing (which seems to be the case), I would be totally open to having this be a second aspect of weirdness going on at the same time as the 'fast travel zones' or whatever.  

[Majestic he/him]

I'll likely bring in my 'Omega' Faction from Salem, because they didn't do much. Right now, it's only got three members, but if anybody wants to join, let me know!

I'm hoping to have a scene where they invade or bank or something and then some Epics come in to destroy them, and there's this dramatic fight where they all end up dying but they kill some Epics at the same time. More characters biting the dust may move the general story along quicker, in my opinion, so introducing higher stakes could create a more thrilling roleplay. Some of my thoughts, anyway.

Note: Omegas only accept normal people / vanillas / maples.

[Edgedancer he/him]

1 hour ago, Comatose said:

I kind of like the idea of it being decentralized for a while (like Epoch being a power in the city, but not the only one).  I don't think it would be hard to come up with factions.  We could even have some Maple/Vanilla led factions.  

I really like the "epic too weak to keep ruling" idea, but would personally prefer it to be 'too weak to continue ruling their large portion of the city'.  I might be the odd one out here, which is fine if that's the case, but I really like the idea of distinguishing Edmonton from previous threads (other than Portland) to make it a little more chaotic.

The "coming out a night" part is from Mistborn definitely - in The Buried Giant the mist was always there, but I thought it would be better to make it non-constant for RP purposes.  The forgetfulness effect doesn't have to be mist related - it could have different physical manifestations.  I like the idea of it being a fun colour though. 

This idea is continuing to develop for me though (feel free to say if you don't like it): What if this epic doesn't know she or he is an epic?  They produce the forgetting mist every time they fall asleep or become unconscious, and thus are totally unaware of what they are doing.  During the day, they go through their life as a regular (but perhaps somewhat cranky/irritable) human, and meanwhile all of these different factions are trying to find them to either use the power to their advantage, or to remove the effect so Edmonton can be more effectively organized.  

 

EDIT: To be clear, if people like the timezones thing (which seems to be the case), I would be totally open to having this be a second aspect of weirdness going on at the same time as the 'fast travel zones' or whatever.  

I'm still fairly open to whatever, as far as the cities factions/rulers go. The only real problem for more factions is that we still need more ideas for actual factions. If anyone has any, I'm all for working them in.

I can see an Epic losing control of their powers when sleeping, in a kind of night terrors and/or sleep walking kind of way, but them not being aware of their powers in the first place seems off.

[Comatose he/him]

21 minutes ago, Edgedancer said:

I'm still fairly open to whatever, as far as the cities factions/rulers go. The only real problem for more factions is that we still need more ideas for actual factions. If anyone has any, I'm all for working them in.

I can see an Epic losing control of their powers when sleeping, in a kind of night terrors and/or sleep walking kind of way, but them not being aware of their powers in the first place seems off.

I was thinking of it kind of as a passive effect than an active use power that only works when they are sleeping or unconscious.  It's less about losing control, and more that the power just automatically triggers when the epic loses consciousness.  Similar to how Steelheart's steel transfusion power responds involuntarily to his emotions.  If the unaware of his abilities thing is too far fetched though, I'm not super attached to the idea (I'm not even that attached to the epic, so if someone else wanted to actually play them, I would be open to that.  

It could also be interesting is the epic is aware of a secondary active power that she or he uses consciously, but is not aware of the power they use while sleeping.  

In response to the mist thing, other phenomena I thought about could be that the epic produces balls of light that float around and cause some disorientation or memory loss, or mysterious flowers that bloom all over the city and then vanish when the epic wakes up.  Either of those I think could make for a kind of cool visual and would give Edmonton some amount of weirdness factor.  

EDIT - just spitballing ideas as well, if people have a better idea of how to incorporate some of these concepts I'm open to suggestions.  

For factions, I am down to worldbuild, but I also think we can add as we go.  I also think it's fine if parts of the city are basically factionless - people just go about minding their own business.  Right now I could see us having:

Epoch's Faction

Epic who recently lost control - faction - this one is in the process of dissolving;

Maybe a "former city of Edmonton government" faction?  A maple led coalition attempting to proceed with life as normal?

Factionless - people go about their daily lives, with little to no laws or rules.  Wild west basically.  

 

That's already a good start in my opinion, and people can always add in some more epics to make it interesting.   

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

9 hours ago, Edgedancer said:

Not exactly an expert here but seeing how her lances extend a good bit, Ray should probably have a Blaster rating. Voidgaze should also probably get something for her resurrection.

Ah, didn't know exactly Ray's lances worked.

2 hours ago, Comatose said:

Sorry it took me so long to catch up.  The weekend was really busy.  

Personally, I would prefer for this city not to have a single epic in charge.  I kind of like the idea of it being relatively ignored due to Calgary getting way more focus and power being relatively decentralized in Edmonton.

The time travel weirdness makes me nervous but will abide by the group decision as people seem to like it.

Another city wide weirdness idea - I just finished a book called The Buried Giant in which a strange mist causes people to become forgetful.   What if there is an epic caused mist like that which comes out at night or something, causing people to stay in doors or risk becoming disoriented and forgetful?  It could lead to some fun sequences if people end up outside after dark, and one of the plot points could be hunting for the epic creating the mist.  It could also help explain why things are disorganized.  

Edit: It might even be a kind of safe place for epics whose weaknesses have been revealed or are on the run. If someone tried to find you or knows your weakness, you can trick them out into the mist and let them become forgetful and escape.  

 

Edit #2: Also my main critique of “maples” is it doesn’t seem like a term canadians (especially Western Canadians) would actually come up with - more likely to be something someone else came up with and applied to them.  

1. In my character post, I included 3 possible histories for Epoch. In the first, he controls the city, but is about to lose control due to several big changes. In the second, he only controls one of the 5 sectors in the city, and just charges the other factions a toll for using his speed zones. In the third, he never existed. Assuming people want time zones at all, perhaps the second timeline fits what you are talking about?

2. The mist thing sounds fun, I fully support this.

3. Well, I'm Canadian, and I'm perfectly fine with using the term 

But it is a fair point that the term is improbable.

What if it was just all the American epics (ie the ones from Oregon) started calling them "maples"? That's a lot more plausible, and it would be kind of funny

 

[Arraenae]

15 hours ago, Drake Marshall said:

EDIT: Also, I was bored, and have now created PRT classifications for each of this RP's epics. The PRT (parahuman response team) is a government agency dedicated to dealing with superhumans, from Worm.

Not sure if all of them are accurate, but @Arraenae can correct me if not.

Actually I've never rated powers using PRT classifications before this week  We'll see how it goes.

11 hours ago, Edgedancer said:

Not exactly an expert here but seeing how her lances extend a good bit, Ray should probably have a Blaster rating. Voidgaze should also probably get something for her resurrection.

Resurrection would probably be a slight Breaker rating, for someone who can change/reset/manipulate their state of being in a way that's not shapeshifting into a living being. The exact number would depend on how long the resurrection works.

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

Just now, Arraenae said:

Resurrection would probably be a slight Breaker rating, for someone who can change/reset/manipulate their state of being in a way that's not shapeshifting into a living being. The exact number would depend on how long the resurrection works.

Hm, I had it down as Brute 5, but I can see a good case for it being a Breaker rating

[Arraenae]

Just now, Drake Marshall said:

Hm, I had it down as Brute 5, but I can see a good case for it being a Breaker rating

Brute is just for superstrength/speed/survivability. Seems like Voidgaze is still as squishy as a maple, but resets when she resurrects, which fits a Breaker rating more.

[Edgedancer he/him]

14 minutes ago, Drake Marshall said:

Ah, didn't know exactly Ray's lances worked.

1. In my character post, I included 3 possible histories for Epoch. In the first, he controls the city, but is about to lose control due to several big changes. In the second, he only controls one of the 5 sectors in the city, and just charges the other factions a toll for using his speed zones. In the third, he never existed. Assuming people want time zones at all, perhaps the second timeline fits what you are talking about?

2. The mist thing sounds fun, I fully support this.

3. Well, I'm Canadian, and I'm perfectly fine with using the term 

But it is a fair point that the term is improbable.

What if it was just all the American epics (ie the ones from Oregon) started calling them "maples"? That's a lot more plausible, and it would be kind of funny

 

Understandable, seeing how you haven't see them in action yet.

1.Yeah, the second option sounds good.

3.Usage of different terms seem appropriate when dealing with refugee groups.

4 minutes ago, Arraenae said:

Brute is just for superstrength/speed/survivability. Seems like Voidgaze is still as squishy as a maple, but resets when she resurrects, which fits a Breaker rating more.

So according to the Worm wiki (No idea how accurate that is)

Quote

A rare subset of Transfiguration brutes is the Resurrection brute. Who are, as the name implies, able to come back from the dead when they die. however they usually lose something in the process.

I guess not being able to permanently die is a form of survivability, even if somewhat indirectly?

[Arraenae]

1 minute ago, Edgedancer said:

So according to the Worm wiki (No idea how accurate that is)

I guess not being able to permanently die is a form of survivability, even if somewhat indirectly?

Huh, I guess. Resurrection isn't too common in the Wormverse. Maybe Brute 1 Mover 1 for the resurrection then, since Voidgaze also moves when reincarnating?

What happens to her body when she dies?

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

1 hour ago, Arraenae said:

Huh, I guess. Resurrection isn't too common in the Wormverse. Maybe Brute 1 Mover 1 for the resurrection then, since Voidgaze also moves when reincarnating?

What happens to her body when she dies?

Brute/Mover sounds like a good conclusion, yes.

I might actually say Brute 2 Mover 2. Brute 2 because the power significantly increases survability, and while it lacks other common brute enhancements, and isn't a major concern for nonlethal containment, it's still noteworthy. Mover 2 because she can control where she reappears to an extent, and could technically suicide to gain a limited teleport.

The closest I can think of in the wormverse for resurrection is Grey Boy's time looping, since that is basically reverting his body to a previous state. Except he does that constantly. Also, I'm pretty sure the PRT has him down as a shaker.

Edited June 25, 2018 by Drake Marshall

[Ataraxian Wist she/her]

Hey, uh... This thread is kind of long, isn't it? Maybe we should create a Question 1R thread?

EDIT: Wait nevermind it's still less than half the size of the last one. But still, it might be helpful.

Edited June 25, 2018 by Sazedezas

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

Maybe. I'm pretty sure in the past they got a new thread when the old one hit 100 pages?

[Ataraxian Wist she/her]

1 minute ago, Drake Marshall said:

Maybe. I'm pretty sure in the past they got a new thread when the old one hit 100 pages?

Right, just realized that.