Long Game 20: Warcamp Enigmas

[little wilson she/her]

Fair point on Seonid, I forgot about that. Though, really, why join a game when you can't participate until the fourth day? =\ That's kinda a decent ways in. 

 

A couple things on this:

 

Long Games are long enough that it's forgivable if someone goes inactive or less-active at some point, so long as they give warning. It's the ones who give no warning that present issues. After all, who can really predict that their schedule for an entire month or two is going to stay clear enough to be involved in a game like this? Real life is unpredictable. It just is. If we were to say "Don't sign up unless you're certain that you can play the entire time and maintain this particular level of activity," and then penalize the players who can't uphold to that, we'd get far less players signing up for games. That's just a fact.

 

That said, it's not encouraged to go inactive for that long. But I don't think Seonid is purely inactive. I would consider him "less active," as he's got other things that are taking up his time, so he can only check the forum occasionally. But come the 4th cycle, he'll be more active and able to contribute regularly.

 

Another thing is that it depends on the game. With this game in particular, this is the last game Maill will be GMing before he leaves on a mission for two years. Maill has only missed playing/GMing 1 game out of the 50+ games we've played here in the last 2 years. There are some players who don't want to miss it, and for good reason. But their schedules right now aren't conducive to a game, but give it a week and those same schedules will be better. For a game that's going to last a month at least, a week of lower activity isn't bad. And if it makes for a grand farewell for Maill, I'm down for it.

 

But those are my views on that. Inactivity or being less active is fine, so long as you have a reason and you give it to the thread along with a time frame of when we can expect you back.

 

Edit:....thanks for the ninja, Kas. Much appreciated. >>

[Nyali she/her]

Sorry, sorry, I shouldn't be making judgment calls when I'm the new girl ^^; As a new person joining in, that level of complete inactivity just seemed really odd.

 

 

Back on topic, anyone want to elaborate on suspicions as we hit the final stretch of day two?

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Death clutch got it. A thief must steal one of every item, except Shards, to win. Receiving or starting with items doesn't count. They have as good of a chance to start with items as anyone else.

[Seonid he/him]

Fair point on Seonid, I forgot about that. Though, really, why join a game when you can't participate until the fourth day? =\ That's kinda a decent ways in. Ah well, I guess I'll hit the last name on my list before deciding on a real vote.

 

So, remove my vote for Seonid, and place instead a vote on Trelagist.

 

Thank you, Kas and Wilson, for responding. I'm just going to post because I have remembered that Alvron is in this game - and that means I am at high risk of dying for inactivity (either by him getting a kill action and using it on me, or by him convincing someone with a kill action to take out inactives). It's legitimate inactivity - I have 3 lab reports to do before Friday, and an Arabic portfolio over the weekend. After that, it's just final exams though, and that's cake. I should be able to participate meaningfully on Monday.

 

I really didn't intend to say anything until I could really contribute, but I saw my name voted on (and then retracted - thank you, Nyali) and realized I probably ought to reiterate why I'm not here, and when I'll be back.

 

I signed up for this for a number of reasons - mostly involving seeing both Kas and Wilson coming back to a game. And this being Mail's last game as a GM. And feeling like I've been away from SE for too long. Mostly, it was because the game started just before I actually started having time to participate. So I decided to join and be inactive until I finished my lab reports.

 

This is a longer post than I expected. I'm not going to vote, because any vote on my part at this point would be done at random, because I haven't been able to analyze anything, and that wouldn't be helpful (from my perspective, a villager voting with no reasons is as bad, or worse than, a villager doing nothing at all. A random, pointless vote can give the Eliminators an edge in the voting process if they want to take it). Come Monday, though, I'll be reading over the thread and getting a read on everyone who's left.

[Nyali she/her]

Thanks for the post, Seonid ^.^ Sorry for the inactivity comments, you're clearly not inactive if you noticed my vote on you. Good luck with the lab reports!

 

 

My thoughts, suspicions, etc. Note that I always consider inaction to be suspicious since keeping quiet and being forgotten is the perfect shield for an eliminator to hide behind. By always seeing inaction as innately suspicious, it stops that shield from working. Please note that I didn't keep track of who said they'd be inactive for good reason, so I apologize if I've marked any of them down below.

 

Suspicions

 

Luna: Luna's first two posts on Day One, I flagged as sounding suspicious. Also, one of the only things Araris did before dying was vote for Luna. Also suspicious due to inactivity (Luna hasn't posted anything game-relevant today).

 

Deathclutch: On my suspicion list that I compiled after the Day One kill reveal (flagged for being the third person to vote for Strawman, and then retract it later on when it was certain he would be chosen). Declared as heir someone else on my suspicion list, giving a potential tie. Declared an heir after vowing to kill people, which I see as contradictory behavior. Worried about killing him though, since he's basically declared that he's a Noble with a power role and at least two items.

 

Kasimir: I dunno, something about the post with the vote against wilson really bugged me. Maybe I just didn't understand it?

 

Elkanah: Suspicious due to inactivity. Hasn't posted today, only made one post (as far as I've noted) so far.

 

Orlok: Defended Luna (who is on my suspicion list) and was the second person to vote for Strawman yesterday (second and third votes early on against posthumously confirmed townies usually look at least a little suspicious to me because they could easily be GBs trying to start momentum against someone who isn't one of them). Also, suspicious due to inactivity (hasn't posted today).

 

Trelagist: Suspicious due to complete inactivity.

 

Silver Dragon: Suspicious due to near inactivity. She hasn't posted today, and yesterday, didn't post anything game-relevant that I noted.

 

Zas: Suspicious due to inactivity. Hasn't posted today (unless I missed it) and didn't vote yesterday.

 

 

None of these suspicions are terribly strong, but I wanted to share them and see if I could get people talking.

 

Edited for clarity

Edited April 27, 2016 by Nyali

[Elbereth she/her]

Nyali, do you mind editing that into your last post rather than double posting? Double posts aren't all that customary around here, except in certain circumstances when no one's posted for hours or the like.

As for your list, I'd say I trust Zas from what he has posted. And Kas'... basically nonsense, really... isn't alignment indicative, I'd say. Other than that, I'd have to go back and look again, which I may do later but can't right now.

[DeathClutch19 he/him]

Thanks for the post, Seonid ^.^ Sorry for the inactivity comments, you're clearly not inactive if you noticed my vote on you. Good luck with the lab reports!

 

 

My thoughts, suspicions, etc. Note that I always consider inaction to be suspicious since keeping quiet and being forgotten is the perfect shield for an eliminator to hide behind. By always seeing inaction as innately suspicious, it stops that shield from working. Please note that I didn't keep track of who said they'd be inactive for good reason, so I apologize if I've marked any of them down below.

 

Suspicions

 

Luna: Luna's first two posts on Day One, I flagged as sounding suspicious. Also, one of the only things Araris did before dying was vote for Luna. Also suspicious due to inactivity (Luna hasn't posted anything game-relevant today).

 

Deathclutch: On my suspicion list that I compiled after the Day One kill reveal (flagged for being the third person to vote for Strawman, and then retract it later on when it was certain he would be chosen). Declared as heir someone else on my suspicion list, giving a potential tie. Declared an heir after vowing to kill people, which I see as contradictory behavior. Worried about killing him though, since he's basically declared that he's a Noble with a power role and at least two items.

 

Kasimir: I dunno, something about that last post really bugged me. Maybe I just didn't understand it?

 

Elkanah: Suspicious due to inactivity. Hasn't posted today, only made one post (as far as I've noted) so far.

 

Orlok: Defended Luna (who is on my suspicion list) and was the second person to vote for Strawman yesterday (second and third votes early on against posthumously confirmed townies usually look at least a little suspicious to me because they could easily be GBs trying to start momentum against someone who isn't one of them). Also, suspicious due to inactivity (hasn't posted today).

 

Trelagist: Suspicious due to complete inactivity.

 

Silver Dragon: Suspicious due to near inactivity. She hasn't posted today, and yesterday, didn't post anything game-relevant that I noted.

 

Zas: Suspicious due to inactivity. Hasn't posted today (unless I missed it) and didn't vote yesterday.

 

 

None of these suspicions are terribly strong, but I wanted to share them and see if I could get people talking.

My vote on Strawman was a mistake and so I retracted after i realized it. Me and Luna are friends IRL so there is a connection

I vowed to kill the person who killed Hellscythe and since I dont think Luna did it declaring her as my heir is not contradictory. Also the people who are inactive are usually inactive so it's not too Sus. That doesnt mean it's ok to be inactive though. Oh and Elkanah is busy with school which is why he is inactive

Edited April 27, 2016 by DeathClutch19

[Nyali she/her]

Nyali, do you mind editing that into your last post rather than double posting? Double posts aren't all that customary around here, except in certain circumstances when no one's posted for hours or the like.

As for your list, I'd say I trust Zas from what he has posted. And Kas'... basically nonsense, really... isn't alignment indicative, I'd say. Other than that, I'd have to go back and look again, which I may do later but can't right now.

 

Sorry - I thought we established that editing the contents of posts beyond typos/grammar was against the rules. I'll refrain from double-posting in the future on these forums. 

 

 

 

My vote on Strawman was a mistake and so I retracted after i realized it. Me and Luna are friends IRL so there is a connection 

I vowed to kill the person who killed Hellscythe and since I dont think Luna did it declaring her as my heir is not contradictory. Also the people who are inactive are usually inactive so it's not too Sus. That doesnt mean it's ok to be inactive though. Oh and Elkanah is busy with school which is why he is inactive 

 

Good to know about the inactives, thanks. My suspicions aren't too strong, just wanted to get them out there to stimulate conversation.

 

I didn't mean that declaring Luna as your heir is somewhat contradictory because of something related to her, but because it prevents you from voting on anyone at all.

[Alvron]

I'm just going to post because I have remembered that Alvron is in this game - and that means I am at high risk of dying for inactivity (either by him getting a kill action and using it on me, or by him convincing someone with a kill action to take out inactives).

You butcher one group of inactives and suddenly you're labeled for life.

[Trelagist]

I need PMs to have any idea of what's going on, so could someone please PM me? I have received 0 PMs over the course of the entire game.

[Elbereth she/her]

Trelagist, no PMs are allowed unless you have a Spanreed, and so no one will be able to PM you until Night. At which time Wilson will, for that night at least. But in general, unless people actually start using Spanreeds, you'll just have to do with the thread.

Nyali, changing the meaning of a post is definitely not allowed. Editing to make your point more clear is fine, as long as it's within a reasonable time period.

[STINK he/him]

Yeah, I like my PMs. I love my PMs. PMs are where short posts become useful things. Threads are where essays are marked.

[Nyali she/her]

Got it. Removing vote for Trelagist. Not sure who to leave my vote on. I think I'll point at Luna for now. Reasons stated in my other post.

[Kynedath]

Yeah, I like my PMs. I love my PMs. PMs are where short posts become useful things. Threads are where essays are marked.

Essays are more useful to me. More to see and more to analyze. Not that I really have time for that, but when I do . . .

 

I am more or less inept when it comes to PMs. Plus I got 96% in English where we wrote 41 essays. No joke.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

The writeup is now up, thanks to the lovely Elbereth for once again writing where she didn't have to.

[Alvron]

Wonderful write up.  Props to Elbereth.  But it suggests that Hellscythe was attacked twice.  Is it accurate or just fluff?

[Elbereth she/her]

Pure fluff, to my knowledge.

[Orlok Tsubodai]

Ok, so apologies for the lack of posting these last 48 hours - I haven't been feeling great at all, which, in combinartion with an unexpected avalanche of work isn't the most conducive to a coherent post..

 

Nyali, as I believe (although am not certain) I said on day 1, I didn't think what LUNA had said before acquiring two votes amounted to justification for a lynch, so voted to even the votes, and then didn't believe anyone was a better candidate than Strawman, so kept my vote on him. I'm not going to vote right now, but will try to make sense of my thoughts before the cycle ends.

[Trelagist]

Elbereth, I'm fully aware that the usage of a spanreed is required to send PMs. I'm also aware that this can only happen at night. I was simply asking to be PMd by as many people as possible while those conditions are fulfilled, as I am more or less reliant on PMs to analyze the current situation we are in accurately.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Pure fluff, to my knowledge.

Yep.

[AliasSheep]

Can I ask why the thread title has been changed.

I am very confused.

 

Also, in terms of suspicions, DeathClutch19 is my main suspicion, due to reasons given in the previous few pages (can summarise if needed).  I don't have any other major suspicions so, sorry mate.

[Macen he/him]

Can I ask why the thread title has been changed.

I am very confused.

He changed the name to have something to do with the writeup he just posted.

[AliasSheep]

He changed the name to have something to do with the writeup he just posted.

 

Fair enough.

[DeathClutch19 he/him]

Can I ask why the thread title has been changed.

I am very confused.

 

Also, in terms of suspicions, DeathClutch19 is my main suspicion, due to reasons given in the previous few pages (can summarise if needed).  I don't have any other major suspicions so, sorry mate.

Please do. I just don't understand what is sus about declaring an heir??

[Kynedath]

Please do.

Seconded