Mid-Range Game 10: Divided Loyalties

[Hellscythe he/him]

Hellscythe? Care to explain your vote? I'd almost think you were a Ghostblood trying to kill the other faction, rather than just trying to kill the Diagrammists...

Who is to say STINK isn't a Diagrammist? Other than you know.... Stink.

Edited December 13, 2015 by Hellscythe

[STINK he/him]

STINK can say he is a Son of Honour

He can also ask why you answered a question with a question.

Edited December 13, 2015 by IrulelikeSTINK

[Orlok Tsubodai]

Everyone else, be aware that if the Diagrammists can make PMs, then the PMs with people will definitely be manipulative.

As opposed to the diagrammists being open and honest with their alignments and intentions?

This strikes me as being intentionally 'good-sounding' advice, as opposed to well intentioned advice.

This, coupled with your disregard for the risk of you getting killed, leads me to vote STINK

[STINK he/him]

Instead of generalising 'PM Safety!' Like others, I explained it as there are new players. Sorry for giving advice go new players.

Also, I may get killed yes, but it'll be interesting to see how I die.

Edited December 13, 2015 by IrulelikeSTINK

[Hellscythe he/him]

Wait does the surgeon protect from a lynch?

[phattemer]

I'll vote for Hellscythe, because I don't really think we should lynch a Runner if we can not, and because there wasn't any explanation for that vote.

[Elbereth she/her]

Wait does the surgeon protect from a lynch?

I would guess yes, given that Progression is it's Surgebinder equivalent, and that does protect from the lynch. I'm not certain, though.

Edited December 13, 2015 by Elbereth

[Clanky he/him]

I would guess yes, given that Progression is it's Surgebinder equivalent, and that does protect from the lynch. I'm not certain, though.

Hmm I assume no because it specifically states in progression "Including Lynch" but in the surgeons description it just says kill attempts.

[Elbereth she/her]

I could see that. I still think Surgeons can protect from lynches, because almost every other role has a Surgebinder equivalent which is exact, but I could be wrong. Looks like it's a question for the GMs, then.

[little wilson she/her]

Hmm I assume no because it specifically states in progression "Including Lynch" but in the surgeons description it just says kill attempts.

 

That was a mistake on my part. Elby's right: Surgeon protects from the lynch.

[Elbereth she/her]

That was a mistake on my part. Elby's right: Surgeon protects from the lynch.

Thank you for the prompt response.

I'm going to be off for a while now. Before I go, responses in general:

Hellscythe, why did you vote for Stink? Do you really suspect him of being a Diagrammist, or are you just trying to get yourself lynched? Or is there some other reason?

I also agree that lynching a claimed Runner right off the bat sounds like a bad idea, regardless of alignment. It's my personal opinion that PMs are better for the Loyalists than the eliminators, in general.

And it seems that's all I have time for. More thoughts in a few hours!

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Hellscythe. For now, my vote's going on you. I like my PMs. 

Edited December 15, 2015 by Mailliw73

[Orlok Tsubodai]

Regardless of whether or not we want to keep the runner alive, we ought to discuss whether we believe STINK to be innocent or not - we can make a decision on this as an entirely separate issue to whether or not we kill him.

[Hellscythe he/him]

I would ask that in the case that there is an Diagrammist Surgeon, the Cook kill the lynch. I'm glad this Faction

That way the Digarammist Surgeon can't effectively nullify every lynch we make.  Reveal Strategy is working out.

Edited December 13, 2015 by Hellscythe

[RippleGylf she/her]

As opposed to the diagrammists being open and honest with their alignments and intentions?

This strikes me as being intentionally 'good-sounding' advice, as opposed to well intentioned advice.

This, coupled with your disregard for the risk of you getting killed, leads me to vote STINK

  

Instead of generalising 'PM Safety!' Like others, I explained it as there are new players. Sorry for giving advice go new players.

Also, I may get killed yes, but it'll be interesting to see how I die.

  

Hellscythe. For now, my vote's going on you. I like my PMs.

I don't think we should kill Hellscythe or Stink quite yet, as Hellscythe can be quite good at weeding out eliminators, and Stink's acceptance of death seems reasonable. This is an SE game. Chances are, you are going to die.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

Well, just a quick post for now, mostly to let you guys know that I am paying attention and just don't really have any thoughts at the moment. I am having a hard time focusing so I'll come back later and see what I think then.

[Guest]

Well, just a quick post for now, mostly to let you guys know that I am paying attention and just don't really have any thoughts at the moment. I am having a hard time focusing so I'll come back later and see what I think then.

Think, think, think.

 

I'm also here, but I ain't voting anyone. Y'all know how well that went down last time...

 

As for my playing, I plan to change it up a bit this time. Unfortunately, due to being busy for a play I'm in, it slipped my mind to post this before the game started (so hopefully, you will believe me when I say that this is not due to a desire from an Eliminator to contribute more). Finishing up school and dealing with work starting, and family coming home from college, etc., etc., I will probably not do much for the next few days. After that, I hope to introduce some higher-quality posts from me into the mix.

 

Remember, practice PM safety! all PMs should come to me!

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Hellscythe. I think I see what you're doing and I'll help out. I was waiting for Restares, but since he hasn't come out yet, I guess I will. 

 

I'm Thaidakar(Surprise!!!). I have the list of my faction and, by default, the list of the Sons as well. I'll be scrambling the list so that positions aren't evident. 

 

Ghostbloods

1. Seixa (Phattemer): A man who believes he's a Skybreaker Squire

2. Hellscythe (Hellscythe)

3. Locke Tekiel (Orlok)

4. Deadeye (Kynedath)

5. Kholak Bagar (Honey Badger)

6. Inor Haze (Creccio)

7. Arran Faenel (Aonar)

8. Walter Kysley (polking): an Azish soldier

9. Baheal Edr (Hael): son of the late Ableah

10. Maximilianos Sebarial (Venture)

11. Sheon Idris (Seonid): the late King of Arelon, somehow in Urithiru?

12. Arina (Arraenae)

13. Edurams (Sart)

14. Cla (Clanky)

15. Ashei Ghetti (Burnt Spaghetti)
16. Elba (Elbereth)

17. Starri (Starry Smite): an overlooked brightlady

18. Malarn (Maill): a man who stinks

 

Sons of Honor:

1. Kael of the Forge (Elkanah): an eager emigrant

2. Krippe (Kipper): a Urithiru postmaster

3. Jain (Lightsworn Panda): a walking, talking panda

4. John Doe (Stink): A man who thinks he's a fish

5. Frank "Gold Frank" Au Faliu (Feligon): a pirate with an nonflying(?) pirate ship, looking for his brother

6. Zas (Zas): a creative shoemaker seeking flesh for new shoes

7. Agrigar Leiken (Adavantos)

8. Aleral (Araris)

9. Yallah (Tony Shark)

10. Mace (Mace Windu): a strange man who wields a purple sword-thing

11. Alycia Kavdar (RippleGylf)

12. Moros (DeathClutch)

13. Slalassalas (Paranoid King): swordfighter who's "defeated" many Horneaters
14. Bort (Bort)
15. Lorna (Alvron): a huntress

16. Citona Vinid (Shallan)

17. Torren (Twei): an ex-Skybreaker Radiant, ditched by his spren 
18. Lopen (The Mighty Lopen)

 

Now that's out of the way, so we don't have to be all sneaky and clever about reveals. Let's get down to defeating the Diagrammists now. 

Edited December 14, 2015 by Mailliw73

[Tony Shark he/him]

Hellscythe. I think I see what you're doing and I'll help out. I was waiting for Restares, but since he hasn't come out yet, I guess I will. 

 

I'm Thaidakar(Surprise!!!). I have the list of my faction and, by default, the list of the Sons as well. I'll be scrambling the list so that positions aren't evident. 

 

Ghostbloods

1. Seixa (Phattemer): A man who believes he's a Skybreaker Squire

2. Hellscythe (Hellscythe)

3. Locke Tekiel (Orlok)

4. Deadeye (Kynedath)

5. Kholak Bagar (Honey Badger)

6. Inor Haze (Creccio)

7. Arran Faenel (Aonar)

8. Walter Kysley (polking): an Azish soldier

9. Baheal Edr (Hael): son of the late Ableah

10. Maximilianos Sebarial (Venture)

11. Sheon Idris (Seonid): the late King of Arelon, somehow in Urithiru?

12. Arina (Arraenae)

13. Edurams (Sart)

14. Cla (Clanky)

15. Ashei Ghetti (Burnt Spaghetti)

16. Elba (Elbereth)

17. Starri (Starry Smite): an overlooked brightlady

18. Malarn (Maill): a man who stinks

 

Sons of Honor:

1. Kael of the Forge (Elkanah): an eager emigrant

2. Krippe (Kipper): a Urithiru postmaster

3. Jain (Lightsworn Panda): a walking, talking panda

4. John Doe (Stink): A man who thinks he's a fish

5. Frank "Gold Frank" Au Faliu (Feligon): a pirate with an nonflying(?) pirate ship, looking for his brother

6. Zas (Zas): a creative shoemaker seeking flesh for new shoes

7. Agrigar Leiken (Adavantos)

8. Aleral (Araris)

9. Yallah (Tony Shark)

10. Mace (Mace Windu): a strange man who wields a purple sword-thing

11. Alycia Kavdar (RippleGylf)

12. Moros (DeathClutch)

13. Slalassalas (Paranoid King): swordfighter who's "defeated" many Horneaters

14. Bort (Bort)

15. Lorna (Alvron): a huntress

16. Citona Vinid (Shallan)

17. Torren (Twei): an ex-Skybreaker Radiant, ditched by his spren 

18. Lopen (The Mighty Lopen)

 

Now that's out of the way, so we don't have to be all sneaky and clever about reveals. Let's get down to defeating the Diagrammists now. 

... I.. what...

...

I was wanting to talk about Hellscythe's Vote, but my head just broke, I'm not going to put a vote yet.

Edited December 14, 2015 by Tony Shark

[Haelbarde he/him]

Sigh... Why am I not surprised.

Wait, thats right. It's because this is what I said would happen if Mailliw was Restares or Thaidakar. I must say, I was sorta curious how a faction game where people didn't know who was on their team would go...

Edited December 14, 2015 by Haelbarde

[RippleGylf she/her]

Hellscythe. I think I see what you're doing and I'll help out. I was waiting for Restares, but since he hasn't come out yet, I guess I will. 

 

I'm Thaidakar(Surprise!!!). I have the list of my faction and, by default, the list of the Sons as well. I'll be scrambling the list so that positions aren't evident. 

 

Ghostbloods

1. Seixa (Phattemer): A man who believes he's a Skybreaker Squire

2. Hellscythe (Hellscythe)

3. Locke Tekiel (Orlok)

4. Deadeye (Kynedath)

5. Kholak Bagar (Honey Badger)

6. Inor Haze (Creccio)

7. Arran Faenel (Aonar)

8. Walter Kysley (polking): an Azish soldier

9. Baheal Edr (Hael): son of the late Ableah

10. Maximilianos Sebarial (Venture)

11. Sheon Idris (Seonid): the late King of Arelon, somehow in Urithiru?

12. Arina (Arraenae)

13. Edurams (Sart)

14. Cla (Clanky)

15. Ashei Ghetti (Burnt Spaghetti)16. Elba (Elbereth)

17. Starri (Starry Smite): an overlooked brightlady

18. Malarn (Maill): a man who stinks

 

Sons of Honor:

1. Kael of the Forge (Elkanah): an eager emigrant

2. Krippe (Kipper): a Urithiru postmaster

3. Jain (Lightsworn Panda): a walking, talking panda

4. John Doe (Stink): A man who thinks he's a fish

5. Frank "Gold Frank" Au Faliu (Feligon): a pirate with an nonflying(?) pirate ship, looking for his brother

6. Zas (Zas): a creative shoemaker seeking flesh for new shoes

7. Agrigar Leiken (Adavantos)

8. Aleral (Araris)

9. Yallah (Tony Shark)

10. Mace (Mace Windu): a strange man who wields a purple sword-thing

11. Alycia Kavdar (RippleGylf)

12. Moros (DeathClutch)

13. Slalassalas (Paranoid King): swordfighter who's "defeated" many Horneaters14. Bort (Bort)15. Lorna (Alvron): a huntress

16. Citona Vinid (Shallan)

17. Torren (Twei): an ex-Skybreaker Radiant, ditched by his spren  18. Lopen (The Mighty Lopen)

 

Now that's out of the way, so we don't have to be all sneaky and clever about reveals. Let's get down to defeating the Diagrammists now. 

Really? I know that at least a portion of your list is wrong, as I am a Ghostblood. Double check your roster, please. Typo, maybe?

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Sorry, Ripple, I got you and Arraenae flipped. Your RP names are too similar.

[Feligon he/him]

I think that any other runners need to get to work and probably contact Stink asap, so we can have a wider network.  I'll need a bit more time to think, I'll post more later.

[Kynedath]

This makes the game seem so much more bland! Mailliw this was a mistake. Half the game is gone now and the most appetizing part of this game has just disintegrated.

[Mace Windu]

Mailliw, I think you just spoiled an important part of the game.