Mid-Range Game 9: The Steel Ministry

[Wyrmhero he/him]

First of all, I had already cleared the people he voted on in my mind. Second, this is the 2nd time you have voted for me in this game. That is suspicious. 

 

Edit: Sorry, just noticed Wyrm. 

 

Firstly, why is that suspicious? Frankly if I was trying to get someone lynched, there are many better targets than you, who have barely been a presence in this game. If I was trying to kill someone, I'd go after a regular poster rather than someone who - as he admits here - only posts when he is directly called out.

 

As for Zephyr, I am willing to remove my vote, provided you use your ability in some way this Cycle. That should prove that you are indeed not the skaa-equivalent of it.

[Guest]

Creccio, it's hard to pin down a specific thing that you've done that makes me suspicious of you. I suspected you, originally, for a few of the same reasons I suspected Adavantos. You've been trying to take a town lead role, which automatically makes me go "Hmm, why?" The thing is, I'm hesitant to place a vote on you right now, because for all I know, this is your usual style. It's a whole lot easier to look at someone critically when they've played more games...here are a few quotes that caused my ears to prick up.

Why prosecute the one who is trying to shed some light into the game instead of those who just lurk in the darkness?

Appeal to action here. "I've posted, so why kill me?"

 

tell me your believes of the guys, tell me your suspicions. If we don't discuss about people and accuse them we will never get them to talk.

We should tell the group, not a specific person. Statements like this always irk me; seems like you're setting up as leader. Setting up as a leader isn't the problem, it's the way you set up.

 

Also, I'm a little suspicious of anyone who voted for Ripple...

 

There's a couple other players on my short list, but I'd like to leave them for now, to see what they do.

 

I'm still suspicious of The Only Joe, most of all. I want him dead.

 

Wyrm, how do you plan to know if Zephrer uses his metal ability?

[Wyrmhero he/him]

I'm still suspicious of The Only Joe, most of all. I want him dead.

 

Wyrm, how do you plan to know if Zephrer uses his metal ability?

 

Now now Kipper, play nice

 

My reading of this is that we can relatively easily see if Zephyr uses his Allomantic ability. I mean, why would we care if it was a Skaa Smoker, for example? Plus, we must have a Seeker somewhere who can look at him. My hope would be that at least one of them goes 'hm, this guy is claiming a power. I should probably check this'.

[Guest]

Now now Kipper, play nice

 

My reading of this is that we can relatively easily see if Zephyr uses his Allomantic ability. I mean, why would we care if it was a Skaa Smoker, for example? Plus, we must have a Seeker somewhere who can look at him. My hope would be that at least one of them goes 'hm, this guy is claiming a power. I should probably check this'.

This is me playing nice, King.

 

Okay, seems reasonable.

[Clanky he/him]

How does this help us determine if he were a Skaa though? He claims a metal and a seeker finds out it is true. Cool. So then what, a seeker reveals themselves to say that he told the truth. Again cool. So now we know he told the truth about his power and that means...... nothing. All we gain is a revealed seeker with one less vial.

[Creccio he/him]

@Kipper

 

I am not a leader, if you want me to be I will. Again, I wont slip, I cant, I am a good guy.

 

Also, sorry, when i said "Tell me" i mean.. tell everyone, i cant figure this out alone, that's when you come in, we can conjecture stuff together,

 

I will put my vote on Winter

 

Why? Well, she was not active second cycle and being active on the third just to put a vote on someone who is already suspected by others seems a pretty chill way to pass the "contribution test"

 

Saying that she is also willing to retract puts about 0 pressure on Zeph and makes me go wary. Tell me why, other than the obvious, you susoect Zeph

 

Edit: Retracted

Edited October 25, 2015 by Creccio

[Wyrmhero he/him]

How does this help us determine if he were a Skaa though? He claims a metal and a seeker finds out it is true. Cool. So then what, a seeker reveals themselves to say that he told the truth. Again cool. So now we know he told the truth about his power and that means...... nothing. All we gain is a revealed seeker with one less vial.

 

Seekers aren't useful in any situation other than this. They can literally only discover good targets for the skaa or try and catch people out in lies about their metals. Where else would we use them other than this? And if he is a Skaa and we know his metal... Cool, we know his metal. If anything odd happens with that metal, then guess what? We have a prime suspect.

[Creccio he/him]

Seekers aren't useful in any situation other than this. They can literally only discover good targets for the skaa or try and catch people out in lies about their metals. Where else would we use them other than this? And if he is a Skaa and we know his metal... Cool, we know his metal. If anything odd happens with that metal, then guess what? We have a prime suspect.

 

How would we know if something odd happend? 

[Wyrmhero he/him]

How would we know if something odd happend? 

 

Simple: Something happens which we can universally agree is not normal and should not have happened if it was a Villager who was responsible.

[Clanky he/him]

Seekers aren't useful in any situation other than this. They can literally only discover good targets for the skaa or try and catch people out in lies about their metals. Where else would we use them other than this? And if he is a Skaa and we know his metal... Cool, we know his metal. If anything odd happens with that metal, then guess what? We have a prime suspect.

 

Exactly so now we give the Skaa free range to use that metal and it to be attributed to Zeph causing him to be lynched. That however is not my main problem. My main problem is how does this make him any less likely to be a Skaa? You give him a choice to either be lynched now or to reveal your metal and not be lynched. Why would he ever not agree to reveal his metal Skaa or not?

Edited October 25, 2015 by Clanky

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

I'll try to get a post up soon, but don't expect too much. Life just got extremely busy, as I warned it would when I signed up.

[Wyrmhero he/him]

Exactly so now we give the Skaa free range to use that metal and it to be attributed to Zeph causing him to be lynched. That however is not my main problem. My main problem is how does this make him any less likely to be a Skaa? You give him a choice to either be lynched now or to reveal your metal and not be lynched. Why would he ever not agree to reveal his metal Skaa or not?

 

We don't need him to say what metal he uses. He just burns a metal, and we have a Seeker check it out. The Seeker only comes forward if Zeph's metal gets used in an odd way.

 

As for whether it makes him more or less like to be Skaa, this plan is half-insurance, half-based on his comments.

Edited October 25, 2015 by Wyrmhero

[Guest]

@Kipper

 

I am not a leader, if you want me to be I will. Again, I wont slip, I cant, I am a good guy.

Well, nobody can really "slip," they can just say things that people find suspicious.

Which you have. Just because you *know* you're a town member doesn't mean you can't be suspicious to other people.

[Creccio he/him]

Well, nobody can really "slip," they can just say things that people find suspicious.

Which you have. Just because you *know* you're a town member doesn't mean you can't be suspicious to other people.

 

Well, let it be then.

 

SE 2015 goals:

1. Be suspicious

 

Now, please go and research those still on the list, maybe we can gain something

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

First off, no one visited me last night.

 

Second, to the person who visited me on Cycle 1, You're posts have made it obvious to me you're a seeker, and while I may have more evidence than others, in that I know you visited me, other people are going to figure out your role as well. I'm trying to figure out a way to confirm to you that it's you who I'm talking too, but I can't think of one just yet

 

Thirdly, a vote tally

Stink (2): Ripplegylf, Alfa

Ripple (1): STINK

Zephrer (2): Clanky, Wyrmhero

Only Jo (3): Sart, Kipper, Jo

 

Of those three, I'm most suspicious of Zephrer, but not for any good reasons. However, of the three that are tied for the lynch, lynching The Only Jo, would get the village the most info, as many have pointed out. Plus, he's not going to be very useful soon, as a lot of crem just hit the fan in his personal offline life, so while he'll try to maintain activity if he isn't lynched, it probably won't be happening.

Edited October 25, 2015 by The Only Jo

[Shallan she/her]

Wow, Joe, how do you know so much about what has happened to Joe?

I would vote for him also, but I don't think I should basically cement the lynch with a not-short amount of time left in the cycle.

[phattemer]

I'd be more of the onion that if Joe wants to be lunched, lettuce do it.

The Only Joe

Who else likes to obsessively highlight posts? (cough cough Kipper Alva cough cough)

Edited October 25, 2015 by phattemer

[Creccio he/him]

I'd be more of the onion that if Joe wants to be lunched, lettuce do it.

The Only Joe

Who else likes to obsessively highlight posts? (cough cough Kipper Alva cough cough)

 

Fun times with such shenanigans

[polkinghornbd he/him]

I'm going to vote for Stink because of the reasons from last cycle.  I just want to put the hot water under him so he *might* have a lynch coming his way.  I still don't fully understand his reasoning, and his explanation didn't help all that much, either.

[Guest]

I'd be more of the onion that if Joe wants to be lunched, lettuce do it.

The Only Joe

Who else likes to obsessively highlight posts? (cough cough Kipper Alva cough cough)

I do that, I'm afraid.

Thx luv u 2 phatt

[DeathClutch19 he/him]

Hi guys. Apologies for being inactive the first few days I was busy writing essays all week.

 

Now to get down to the game.

 

I'm voting for Zephrer for a few reasons.

 

1) My biggest reads (based off the past few days of posts) on who I believe to be Inquisition would be namely the people who are currently voting for Zephrer    "****Zephrer (2): Clanky, Wyrmhero****" 

 

2) Zephrer's posts while it does seem like he's attempting to help and this is only his second first-ish game, his posts generally do nothing to help the Inquisition except state general things that we need to do EX: "So how do we propose to deal with the Skaa?" - Zephrer

 

3) While Joe is extremely suspicious for 1) Not giving us the name of who visited him and 2) Jo attempting to possibly sway votes by voting for himself to me is an extreme defensive maneuver, I believe Zephrer is more likely to be skaa based on my points earlier that I believe outweigh the points against Joe.

[Meandbooks she/her]

Hmm, well now I'm not quite sure what to do. I've been suspicious of Joe for ages, but the fact that everybody is jumping on him now almost makes me want to reconsider. I was also becoming suspicious of Zephrer because of the reasons people have already said, in addition to the fact that Joe backed him up so quickly. Now that both of them are being voted on, and now that Joe wants to be lynched, I'm not quite sure what to think.

 

For now, though my vote goes on Zephrer, mainly because although lynching Joe might be helpful even if he is not a skaa, I really want us to lynch a skaa this round and I feel like Zephrer is the more likely candidate.

Edited October 26, 2015 by Meandbooks

[Orlok Tsubodai]

Ok, I'm really very sorry that I haven't been the most active this cycle - I had a 16 hour flight, and then some fairly hideous jetlag.

On those I find suspicious:

1) Creccio

I can't quite put a finger on it, so I will refrain from voting, but something seems really odd about Creccio's posts, and the way she is trying to get us to trust her. I'll have another look through should I survive, (probably can't get back online today), and see what I can find.

2) Joe

I'm not quite sure what to make of Joe. We have his plan in cycle one, which is a black mark on his name, but equally, he's just tried the vote on himself gambit - which was followed by others swinging the vote away from him. I think we gain sufficient information from his death that I'm going to vote on him without more concrete suspicions. Sorry, Joe

3) Wyrm

Just your regularly scheduled reminder not to trust anything Wyrm says, and to not allow him control of the thread. See QF9!

[Clanky he/him]

Welcome back everyone! It looks like threatening to unleash coinshots on inactives sure did the trick. I don't really like that all we got was agreements with suspicions that were already widespread but it's a start. 

 

@Orlok. I see you viewing the thread. Any thoughts?

 

EDIT: Ninja'd by Orlok

Edited October 26, 2015 by Clanky

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

Ok, guys, really sorry I haven't posted much these last couple days. Doesn't really look like I can do much at this point. Joe's(or Jo now?) trying and succeeding at killing himself, which seems weird. I don't know what to make of Zephrer repeatedly "assuring" us he's good. I've never played with him before, but that doesn't seem like it helps us. Wyrm said he was going to remove his vote from Zephrer if he'd use his ability, but he hasn't removed it yet. Of course, I don't remember seeing if Zephrer agreed to do that or not, so maybe that's why he didn't remove it.

 

I can't really do anything with my vote except make a tie and that seems like it would be detrimental to the team since we would get little to no information, so I'm gonna leave it as it is.

 

I'm really gonna try to be a lot more actively posting now. The last couple days have been really busy for me. But this upcoming week is looking like it's going to be slow, so that means more time for SE!