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[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

7 minutes ago, Mint11 said:

wait so... if the meta elims and pseudo elims may or may not be the same people... and the meta elims win depending on if they bet correctly for or against the pseudo elims... we have potential for elim-on-elim betrayal??

That's the idea!

[Qianweilian He/him]

24 minutes ago, Mint11 said:

wait so... if the meta elims and pseudo elims may or may not be the same people... and the meta elims win depending on if they bet correctly for or against the pseudo elims... we have potential for elim-on-elim betrayal??

I believe the meta elims bet as a team. Otherwise, yes.

Edit: @The Unknown Medallion, if we're playing as ourselves, then if we die in the metagame, do we die...irl? Who is playing in the pseudogame then? A cognitive shadow?

Edited May 20 by Qianweilian

[Myst He/Him]

1 hour ago, Qianweilian said:

I believe the meta elims bet as a team. Otherwise, yes.

Edit: @The Unknown Medallion, if we're playing as ourselves, then if we die in the metagame, do we die...irl? Who is playing in the pseudogame then? A cognitive shadow?

Yes.

TUM has a series of hit men on standby to take us all out as we die in the game.

: )

[CadCom he/him]

On 5/18/2026 at 4:59 PM, The Unknown Medallion said:

Years? I remember when you came back last time  Maybe I am getting old

Yeah I'm pretty sure it was before my twins were born and now they're almost 2

I think we're all getting old

[StrikerEZ he/him]

18 minutes ago, CadCom said:

Yeah I'm pretty sure it was before my twins were born and now they're almost 2

I think we're all getting old

What do you MEAN you have twins???

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

2 hours ago, Qianweilian said:

I believe the meta elims bet as a team. Otherwise, yes.

Edit: @The Unknown Medallion, if we're playing as ourselves, then if we die in the metagame, do we die...irl? Who is playing in the pseudogame then? A cognitive shadow?

Canonically, you're being like investigated by the mods, which prevents you from voting or doing actions, but you can still use your anonymous account in the Metagame 

1 hour ago, CadCom said:

Yeah I'm pretty sure it was before my twins were born and now they're almost 2

I think we're all getting old

Is one of your twins named Cad and the other named Com?

Congratulations btw

[StrikerEZ he/him]

Oh yeah. I should actually congratulate @CadCom for that. So belated congrats bro, that’s awesome!

[Verdance he/him]

I just realized I have a great excuse for irrational and unintelligent behavior for this game

“duh, rules hard”

[Myst He/Him]

26 minutes ago, Verdance said:

I just realized I have a great excuse for irrational and unintelligent behavior for this game

“duh, rules hard”

And don’t just listen to me this time!

unless I’m Elim in either game. In that case absolutely listen to me. I will absolutely have your best interests at heart.

I really hope I’m a meta Elim. Or better yet: double elim

[Verdance he/him]

1 minute ago, Myst said:

And don’t just listen to me this time!

unless I’m Elim in either game. In that case absolutely listen to me. I will absolutely have your best interests at heart.

I really hope I’m a meta Elim. Or better yet: double elim

I have an even better excuse for that

i have time and higher brain functioning of my own available now that im done with high school

[Myst He/Him]

2 minutes ago, Verdance said:

I have an even better excuse for that

i have time and higher brain functioning of my own available now that im done with high school

Like, PM me if you want to talk to me, but don’t PM me because you want me to tell you what’s going on. Like, I will tell you, just know that’s a bad idea.

that said @The Unknown Medallion will we need to make pseudo-game PMs and meta-game PMs different? Or like how is that gonna work?

[coco.pudding she/they]

33 minutes ago, Verdance said:

i have time and higher brain functioning of my own available now that im done with high school

Oh so real

I too have been experiencing that and it’s wonderful (although work might take up more of that brain function so maybe not)

[Verdance he/him]

4 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

Oh so real

I too have been experiencing that and it’s wonderful (although work might take up more of that brain function so maybe not)

I just finished 8 hour shift at the damn ice cream shop so yeah i feel for ya. basically means 8 hours our of my day i can’t check at all, but unlike school, it doesnt take up space in my brain outside of work time

yappity yap yap yap tldr ver actually has a job

anyhow i have read the rules several times and have a crude understanding but really could use some help. There are so many moving parts idk what to do

in like three years i will be hosting an SE game thematically and mechanically like a normal werewolf game that becomes progressively less normal, inspired by the fact that EVERY SINGLE GAME SO FAR IS WEIRD

@The Unknown Medallion could you write an example of two full cycles to show interactions? Thanks

Edited May 20 by Verdance

[Aeoryi she/her]

5 minutes ago, Verdance said:

like three years i will be hosting an SE game thematically and mechanically like a normal werewolf game that becomes progressively less normal, inspired by the fact that EVERY SINGLE GAME SO FAR IS WEIRD

The game I GMed (on the shores of the Purelake, QF76) had a very simple ruleset intentionally chosen to reduce the mechanical strain that players endure... I have a fair bit of expertise when it comes to designing games to be carried out. 

I could also run my LG as a simple, easy normal game if I wished.

[Myst He/Him]

4 minutes ago, Verdance said:

I just finished 8 hour shift at the damn ice cream shop so yeah i feel for ya. basically means 8 hours our of my day i can’t check at all, but unlike school, it doesnt take up space in my brain outside of work time

yappity yap yap yap tldr ver actually has a job

anyhow i have read the rules several times and have a crude understanding but really could use some help. There are so many moving parts idk what to do

in like three years i will be hosting an SE game thematically and mechanically like a normal werewolf game that becomes progressively less normal, inspired by the fact that EVERY SINGLE GAME SO FAR IS WEIRD

@The Unknown Medallion could you write an example of two full cycles to show interactions? Thanks

Ice cream sounds like a fun thing to do. I’m doing tourism stuff over the summer and I’m not looking forward to having to deal with people for 8 hours at a time. But I don’t think it’ll be too bad most days

And yeah, work is gonna impact my activity on here more than school is.

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

25 minutes ago, Verdance said:

@The Unknown Medallion could you write an example of two full cycles to show interactions? Thanks

Uh...

No? I'm not sure what you mean tbh

The Metagame and the Pseudogame don't really interact with each other except in three ways

1. The person who is exed in the Pseudogame, however many votes they had, the top person up for the exe in the Metagame must have at least that many votes. (If TUM is executed with three votes P1, then you will need three or more votes to exe someone M1)

2. The PseudoGM role can change roles in the Pseudogame. The PseudoIM is then told these changes.

3. At the conclusion of the Pseudogame, it will be revealed which faction the elims Bet on. The reward depending on whether they won or lost will then be carried out. (If they win, the elims will receive a conversion that they can use, if they lose, half of the elim team will be revealed)

Otherwise, its like two completely separate MRs that alternate. Every player will have meta roles and pseudoroles and meta alignments and pseudo alignments, but they don't cross over.

[Myst He/Him]

8 minutes ago, The Unknown Medallion said:

Uh...

No? I'm not sure what you mean tbh

The Metagame and the Pseudogame don't really interact with each other except in three ways

1. The person who is exed in the Pseudogame, however many votes they had, the top person up for the exe in the Metagame must have at least that many votes. (If TUM is executed with three votes P1, then you will need three or more votes to exe someone M1)

2. The PseudoGM role can change roles in the Pseudogame. The PseudoIM is then told these changes.

3. At the conclusion of the Pseudogame, it will be revealed which faction the elims Bet on. The reward depending on whether they won or lost will then be carried out. (If they win, the elims will receive a conversion that they can use, if they lose, half of the elim team will be revealed)

Otherwise, its like two completely separate MRs that alternate. Every player will have meta roles and pseudoroles and meta alignments and pseudo alignments, but they don't cross over.

So… do I need to make 2 different PMs with the same person then? One for each

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

47 minutes ago, Myst said:

So… do I need to make 2 different PMs with the same person then? One for each

You can just use one PM per person, however, you will not be able to PM players who are dead in both games, nor will you be able to PM players who are dead in the Metagame after PMs are closed in the Pseudogame. 

Does that make sense? 

[Myst He/Him]

6 minutes ago, The Unknown Medallion said:

You can just use one PM per person, however, you will not be able to PM players who are dead in both games, nor will you be able to PM players who are dead in the Metagame after PMs are closed in the Pseudogame. 

Does that make sense? 

I think so, thanks 

[Spahc11 He/Him]

Hello, just asking if I could spectate this game? @The Unknown Medallion

Edited May 20 by Spahc11

[Araris Valerian he/him]

I'm in as Araris Valerian, the bus driver.

[Qianweilian He/him]

9 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

I'm in as Araris Valerian, the bus driver.

Implying that there is another Araris Valerian, who is not a bus driver.

[Ink and Embers Any pronouns]

Can I sign up to spectate please?

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

8 hours ago, Spahc11 said:

Hello, just asking if I could spectate this game? @The Unknown Medallion

 

1 hour ago, Ink and Embers said:

Can I sign up to spectate please?

I'll put you two down. Once the game starts, you'll receive a PM with a link to the spectator doc

1 hour ago, Qianweilian said:

Implying that there is another Araris Valerian, who is not a bus driver.

There's also Araris Valerian, the retired poo bear that sits on his porch all day

[Araris Valerian he/him]

1 hour ago, The Unknown Medallion said:

There's also Araris Valerian, the retired poo bear that sits on his porch all day

They are the same, just at different stages of life .

2 hours ago, Qianweilian said:

Implying that there is another Araris Valerian, who is not a bus driver.

Yeah, there’s one that is a legendary swordsman, but he’s not as cool as me. Obligatory note that y’all should read Codex Alera if you haven’t yet.