Long Game 112 Sign-Ups: A Game Within a Game Within a Game Within...

[___ He/Him]

15 hours ago, The Unknown Medallion said:

LG112 - Sign-Ups: A Game Within a Game Within a Game Within…

The Unknown Player opened SE. The Anniversary Game had just posted signups. He read through the setting. It seemed pretty nonsensical this year, Shardworlds with Tyrian roles? And that investiture vote manipulation couldn't be balanced. Sure, he had been one of the ones to approve the ruleset, but that didn't mean he actually read the rules. Still, it wasn't like he wasn't going to sign up regardless.

He scrolled through the cosmetic role list, trying to come up with ideas, but was interrupted by a notification. There was a new post in the topic.

“Attention, roleplay during the Anniversary Game has been canceled this year. The Roleplay Characters, particularly long running multigame personas, seem to have developed a mind of their own. They sent the mods a message, threatening to release the k01055 upon the forum, though they do not yet have enough influence. We believe they have infiltrated the Anniversary Game and are attempting to sway the result. We must find them as a community. If we fail, the entire 17th Shard might be overrun.”

What in damnation? The Unknown Player wondered. He checked his backlog of Discord messages. How had he missed this?

Well, he had to help find these rogue Roleplay Characters. He sent a message to the GM.

“We can't let them release the k01055 on the Shard. I'm in.”

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to Long Game 112: A Game Within a Game Within a Game Within… Well, you get the gist. As you might have guessed, this is a Meta game, where players will be playing themselves or fictional SE players, facing off against sentient Roleplay Characters in two games simultaneously. I will be your GM, @Wahr will be my Co-GM, and @Jo will be the IM. 

This game will begin in a little over a week's time on Tuesday the 26th of May at 11:00 AM Central Time. Rollovers will remain at that time.

This is a complex game, which will likely go longer than an average game. To compensate, cycles have been lengthened, but if you can't check in multiple times every two days, come join us in the spectator doc.

Note that the votes will be done differently than normal, so read that carefully and feel free to ask any questions (or volunteer to make the spreadsheet pretty, cause I ain't doing it).

You can find the rules here in Google Doc form:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nIkEzRgRQtSFQ7VN-QyhbFkzt8hJhnGwK2xDmLwYp9U/edit?usp=drivesdk

And here on the Shard:

LG112: A Game Within a Game Within a Game Within...

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Housekeeping:

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This is a complex game, which will likely go longer than an average game. To compensate, cycles have been lengthened early on, but if you can't check in multiple times every two days, come join me in the spectator doc.

This game's inactivity filter will be lenient, focused more on making you come back than taking you out. 

If you don’t speak for one turn, I'll @ and PM you on the Shard. 

If you remain silent, I'll attempt to contact you over Discord, and during that turn, all of your actions will be decided randomly. 

If you stay inactive for a third turn, 6 real world days, you will be replaced or flipped in the Metagame and the Pseudogame. Your actions that turn will be decided randomly, or if you are an elim, your teammates will be allowed to use your action for the kill if they wish.

Every player will have at least one role overall. They can have one role in the Pseudogame and another in the Metagame, or just one in either. 

The game will begin on a 24 hour Night Zero. No Pseudogame roles or alignments will be distributed. 

This game will be split into 48 hour turns, which will alternate between Pseudogame and Metagame instead of Day and Night. 

Every turn, there will be a vote. The Pseudogame vote will occur on the Pseudogame turn and the Metagame vote will occur on the Metagame turn. 

Only players still in the Pseudogame can vote in the Pseudogame. Only players still in the Metagame can vote in the metagame.

In the Metagame, the lead train must have equal to or more votes than the lead train of the previous Pseudogame cycle (If TUM was executed last Pseudocycle with three votes before vote manipulation, then the lead Metagame vote must have three or more votes). 

Ties will result in no one dying in the Metagame.

In the Pseudogame, there is no vote minimum and ties will be decided randomly.

Pseudoroles will only be able to use their abilities on Pseudocycles and Metaroles will only be able to use their abilities on Metacycles.

Players will have one action a turn.

Kills will be differentiated and kills blocked by protects will be announced, but roleblocks and not putting in the kill will appear the same.

Votes will be placed using my spreadsheet voting system, see QF74 and MR73 (though they may not be as pretty). Players will put their votes in a designated spreadsheet, which will be marked with V1-V2 etc and the players will place their first vote in V1, second in V2, and so on. You may still vote in thread, and are encouraged to, the spreadsheet just makes votecounts and rollover faster.

Mechanics:

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Players will always be able to participate in discussion, regardless of if they have died or not, in both games.

Players who die in the Pseudogame will be given access to a “Dead Doc” to use as they wish.

During Night Zero, the Roleplay Characters must vote in their doc on whether to Bet on the Villagers or the Eliminators in the Pseudogame. If they don't decide by the end of Night Zero, it will be decided randomly. 

Upon completion of the Pseudogame, if the Roleplay Characters won the Bet, they will receive X conversions (most likely one, only two in high player count games). If they lost the Bet, half of the living Roleplay Characters rounded down will be revealed. 

If the Pseudogame ends with every player dead, the Bet will be considered successful. 

If the Metagame ends with all players dead, the Roleplay Characters will win if they won the Bet, and the SE Players will win if the Roleplay Characters lost the Bet.

The Pseudogame cannot affect the Metagame, except for the effect of the Roleplay Characters’ bet.

Metagame:

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Alignment:

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SE Players: The village faction for this game. The SE Players will win when all of the Roleplay Characters have been executed in the Metagame.

Roleplay Characters: The elim faction for this game. The Roleplay Characters will have a factional kill in the Metagame. They will have a factional elim doc to communicate in. The Roleplay Characters win when there are no reasonable avenues of victory for the SE Players. 

Roles:

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Roleplayer: To defeat your enemy, you must know them better than they know themselves. And oh do you know them well. You've played these characters for tens of games, and, through multiple game spanning character arcs, they gained sentience. You know them so well you can discover who is a Roleplay Character. You can scan a player each cycle to determine their alignment, however, other Roleplayers will appear to be Roleplay Characters.

Newbie: You will have an extra life for the first three cycles. For the fourth cycle, you will lose your life and take the role of a player who was removed for inactivity, or the Lurker role if there is none available. If you already used your extra life, you will not gain a new role. (Cycle numbers subject to change)

PseudoIM: You have volunteered to moderate this game. It wasn't much of a competition. Everyone else was too busy, or, in the case of Jo, too lazy to do it. You will know the role distribution of the Pseudogame, including changes made by the PseudoGM. You will not know alignments, only who has what roles.

PseudoGM: You were next on the list to run a game, even before this business with the sentient Roleplay Characters. You already forgot the distro you made, but the IM approved it so it must have been balanced enough to handle a few changes on the fly. Every Pseudogame cycle, you can change a player's pseudorole. You can also submit a message that will be the writeup for the Pseudogame turn. 

Lurker: It's not that you want to be inactive. You're just busy, and when you do have the time, the thread is just so overwhelming. But when you do show, your vote always counts. You can make your vote worth double. 

Thread Controller: You have a keen intellect and, admittedly, too much time on your hands. You can convince anyone to listen to you, even outside of the Pseudogame. You can move a Metagame vote.

Retiree: You understand the meta of this game. You have seen eons come and pass, and you know the deep thoughts of those around you. You can discover the metarole of one player each cycle.

Order of Actions:

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PGM Role change

Thread Controller Roleblock

Roleplayer Scan

Retiree Scan

Lurker Vote manip

Kill

Exe

 

Pseudogame:

AG0/AN0: The Shards of Tyrian Falls

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Alignments:

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Villagers: Just plain ordinary folk, trying to stop the Eliminators. The uninformed majority, you must discover the evildoers and execute them so your players can destroy them in the Metagame. This game ends when all of the Eliminators have been executed. 

Eliminators: Mwahahahahahaahahha. The village must be eviscerated. Destroyed. Torn down to the last corpse. You will have a factional kill and a doc to conspire within. The kill will require an action and be placed normally, but the target will be decided by vote within the elim doc. The kill is mandatory and, if no kill action is placed, a random elim action will be replaced. This game ends when you reach parity with the villagers. 

Roles:

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THUG: They can survive a single attack. If they are killed during a night or day cycle, they survive and this will be revealed in the write up. If they are attacked again, they die… finally.

TINEYE: They are messengers and are capable of writing messages to the town while remaining anonymous. Each night, they can send a message to the Game Master. The GM will then post it within the write up at the start of the next Day. As long as a Tineye is alive, players can send Private Messages back and forth. Once no Tineye is alive, they can no longer deliver messages, so no more PMs.

SMOKER: The Smoker is undetectable and they can extend this power to one other person each night. If scanned by a Seeker, the smoker or the person encompassed within their coppercloud will show up as being Smoked. Alternatively, the Smoker can turn their coppercloud off. This would allow them to be scanned accurately as a Smoker. In addition to being undetectable by the Seeker, the Smoker and their target are unaffected by emotional Allomancy. As long as the Smoker is using their coppercloud, a Soother or Rioter cannot change their vote.

SEEKER: The Seeker can sense when someone is burning metals. In fact, they have gotten so good that they can tell whether someone is spiked or not! Once per night, the Seeker can target someone to learn their abilities and alignment.

COINSHOT: The Coinshot does what they do best. They push metals around; specifically into other people’s bodies. Once per night, the Coinshot can target a person for death. Unless otherwise disrupted, that person dies.

LURCHER: Where the Coinshot pushes, the Lurcher pulls. Once per night the Lurcher can target someone and that person will be saved from death. A Lurcher cannot target the same person two nights in a row.

SOOTHER: Their ability to dampen emotions puts them and the Rioter in a very special position. During the Day, they can negate one person’s vote. The change will be anonymous, but since I will be posting voting results at the end of each day, those that are observant should be able to tell what votes were changed.

RIOTER: The Rioter works in a similar fashion as the Soother, except once during the day round they can change one person’s vote. Using this power does nullify their own vote though. They are still capable of voting, but their vote will not be counted. The change itself will be anonymous, but since I will be posting voting results at the end of each day, those that are observant should be able to tell what votes were changed.

MISTBORN: They have the abilities of all of the above, but will only be able to use one per cycle. At the beginning of every day, the Mistborn will be told which ability they have and they can use that ability until the next night. If a previously held power would be received, the die is rerolled, and the new power is granted regardless of whether or not it was previously held.

VANILLA: You have no special powers, but you still get a vote every day. Who knows? Perhaps you were meant to be the one to save the town! Not all stories are about the strongest people in a group. Once you get X investiture, you can gain a role which was decided for you during the distro stage of the game. You can choose to forgo this opportunity if you wish. If you obtain X times two investiture, you can choose what role you turn into. The required investiture will be consumed when you change roles.

Spiked: Ruin speaks in your mind, but as the most faithful of his servants, he will consider your suggestions. You can destroy a Shardworld on a Pseudogame turn. You can only destroy 2 Shardworlds total. Below 10 starting player count will allow you to destroy 3.

Shard: You hold a shard of infinity, but you are limited by your Intent and Oaths. You can give a player other than yourself two investiture, or you can give yourself one investiture. 

Investiture:

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If a player has Investiture, they can use their action to alter the vote. Each Investiture a player chooses to use will be consumed to add half of a vote to a player. They can target any number of players and use as many pieces of Investiture as they wish. Half votes will be counted and used as tiebreakers.

Shardworlds:

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On Night Zero, every player must choose a Shardworld to move to. If they do not choose, they will go to the least populated Shardworld. If a Shardworld is destroyed, every player on it will be roleblocked and randomly moved to a new Shardworld. Players will no longer be able to go to that Shardworld.

Roshar: Investiture is so easy to find in Roshar, you don't even have to look. You will receive one Investiture every cycle you spend on Roshar. You can also use your action to gain an Investiture in addition to your passive gain.

Nalthis: Investiture is abundant on Nalthis, but you must Endow it onto others. You can give another player two Investiture. You can use your action to give that player an extra Investiture, or you can give a different player two Investiture. 

Threnody: The Shades of Threnody provide a sort of protection, even if they are rather dangerous. You can use your action to survive an attack and instead kill your attacker (doesn't protect against the exe). If you use this ability again, you will die with your attacker, and it will cost an extra Investiture each time. Every time a kill is affected by this action, it will also raise the Investiture price. 

Sel: Hidden away behind a storm formed by the corpses of dead gods, you are safe on Sel. More or less. One action taken against you will fail. Any actions you take will fail if you don't expend an additional Investiture.

Scadrial: Though it was thought to be forgotten or even disabled by Harmony, Hemalurgy has made a resurgence in the underground of Scadrial. You can use an action to steal the role of another player on Scadrial. You can spend an Investiture to target a player not on Scadrial. Only one role will be taken by default, but when you boost with investiture, all roles will be taken.

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Smoking 

Soothing

Rioting

Seeking

Tineye Message

Lurching

Kills

Exe

Rule Clarifications:

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The PseudoGM changing roles will be as such:

“Change TUM’s role to Coinshot.”

They can change their own role.

 

The Pseudodistro will be decided before/as the game starts, but it will not be revealed until after the Bet has been made.

 

The turn after Night Zero will be a Pseudogame turn

 

 

Players:

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1. @coco.pudding as Coco
2. @Through The Living Star as Star
3. @CoderDrag0n8 as Coder
4. @Myst as Mistake
5. @StrikerEZ as Striker
6. @Qianweilian as Qianweilian 
7. @Through the Living Hopper

Spectators:

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Pinch-Hitters:

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@Aeoryi

@Divergent

 

I think that's everything, let me know if I missed anything 

I understand almost none of this, but whatever!

I will sign up as mippo

[Qianweilian He/him]

6 minutes ago, ___ said:

I understand almost none of this, but whatever!

I will sign up as mippo

Here's the rundown.

The real game, as in the game that determines victory, as in the metagame, has the standard elims and village.

While the overarching game, or the metagame is going on, there is a "minigame," or the pseudogame. People are assigned new roles and alignments for the pseudogame. The metagame elims then decide whether to bet on the pseudogame village or the pseudogame elims. When the pseudogame ends, if the metagame elims pick the right side, they get rewarded. Otherwise, the metagame village gets rewarded.

Each cycle is divided into 2 turns. Each turn is either voting and actions in the metagame, or voting and actions in the pseudogame. 

In the pseudogame: 

At the start of the pseudogame, everyone picks a shardworld to hang out at. They don't move unless the shardworld gets destroyed. Every cycle, something happens depending on which shardworld you're on.

[___ He/Him]

4 minutes ago, Qianweilian said:

Here's the rundown.

The real game, as in the game that determines victory, as in the metagame, has the standard elims and village.

While the overarching game, or the metagame is going on, there is a "minigame," or the pseudogame. People are assigned new roles and alignments for the pseudogame. The metagame elims then decide whether to bet on the pseudogame village or the pseudogame elims. When the pseudogame ends, if the metagame elims pick the right side, they get rewarded. Otherwise, the metagame village gets rewarded.

Each cycle is divided into 2 turns. Each turn is either voting and actions in the metagame, or voting and actions in the pseudogame. 

In the pseudogame: 

At the start of the pseudogame, everyone picks a shardworld to hang out at. They don't move unless the shardworld gets destroyed. Every cycle, something happens depending on which shardworld you're on.

Huh ok thanks

This sounds like it'll be a very long game

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

3 hours ago, Qianweilian said:

 

I might say this more than anyone who isn't an evil game show host should 

13 minutes ago, Qianweilian said:

Here's the rundown.

The real game, as in the game that determines victory, as in the metagame, has the standard elims and village.

While the overarching game, or the metagame is going on, there is a "minigame," or the pseudogame. People are assigned new roles and alignments for the pseudogame. The metagame elims then decide whether to bet on the pseudogame village or the pseudogame elims. When the pseudogame ends, if the metagame elims pick the right side, they get rewarded. Otherwise, the metagame village gets rewarded.

Each cycle is divided into 2 turns. Each turn is either voting and actions in the metagame, or voting and actions in the pseudogame. 

In the pseudogame: 

At the start of the pseudogame, everyone picks a shardworld to hang out at. They don't move unless the shardworld gets destroyed. Every cycle, something happens depending on which shardworld you're on.

I forgot to explicitly say in the rules, but you can move shardworlds with an action

[StrikerEZ he/him]

29 minutes ago, Qianweilian said:

Here's the rundown.

The real game, as in the game that determines victory, as in the metagame, has the standard elims and village.

While the overarching game, or the metagame is going on, there is a "minigame," or the pseudogame. People are assigned new roles and alignments for the pseudogame. The metagame elims then decide whether to bet on the pseudogame village or the pseudogame elims. When the pseudogame ends, if the metagame elims pick the right side, they get rewarded. Otherwise, the metagame village gets rewarded.

Each cycle is divided into 2 turns. Each turn is either voting and actions in the metagame, or voting and actions in the pseudogame. 

In the pseudogame: 

At the start of the pseudogame, everyone picks a shardworld to hang out at. They don't move unless the shardworld gets destroyed. Every cycle, something happens depending on which shardworld you're on.

Slight correction here (and @The Unknown Medallion feel free to correct me if I’m wrong here), but the roles and alignments for the pseudogame won’t be decided until after the bet happens. Or at least they won’t be revealed until after the bet happens. They might decide our pseudogame roles and alignments from the very beginning and just reveal it to us later.

Another question for TUM: will each turn of each game include a separate day and night cycle? Or will kills and executions happen at the same time in each game (besides for Night Zero)?

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

46 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said:

Slight correction here (and @The Unknown Medallion feel free to correct me if I’m wrong here), but the roles and alignments for the pseudogame won’t be decided until after the bet happens. Or at least they won’t be revealed until after the bet happens. They might decide our pseudogame roles and alignments from the very beginning and just reveal it to us later.

Another question for TUM: will each turn of each game include a separate day and night cycle? Or will kills and executions happen at the same time in each game (besides for Night Zero)?

The last part is correct, Pseudogame roles and alignments are decided at the beginning of the game like a normal game, but the players aren't told their roles or alignments until Pseudocycle One.

Simultaneously, like two MRs happening at once.

Edit: Also note that there is no kill or exe on N0

Edited May 18 by The Unknown Medallion

[StrikerEZ he/him]

35 minutes ago, The Unknown Medallion said:

The last part is correct, Pseudogame roles and alignments are decided at the beginning of the game like a normal game, but the players aren't told their roles or alignments until Pseudocycle One.

Simultaneously, like two MRs happening at once.

Edit: Also note that there is no kill or exe on N0

Sweet thank you. I think that should be the last of my questions.

[Aeternum]

Love this concept! I can pinch hit if you need one for now, might switch to player because this sounds fun.

[CadCom he/him]

Meh it's been a couple years. I'll join in for one. 

I'll sign up as Cam. I am out of practice with any roleplaying or creative flow states. So just Cam for now. 

I've read the rules but I'll try to understand them at a later time.

[Verdance he/him]

Oh, it wasn’t clear. I am signing up as… myself in the whatever one is on the Shard, and Giacomo in whichever one has Allomancy

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

2 hours ago, StrikerEZ said:

Sweet thank you. I think that should be the last of my questions.

Don't worry, someone else will come along and ask some more soon

2 hours ago, Aeternum said:

Love this concept! I can pinch hit if you need one for now, might switch to player because this sounds fun.

I'll put you down as a pinch-hitter, but let me know, we'd love to have you

35 minutes ago, CadCom said:

Meh it's been a couple years. I'll join in for one. 

I'll sign up as Cam. I am out of practice with any roleplaying or creative flow states. So just Cam for now. 

I've read the rules but I'll try to understand them at a later time.

Years? I remember when you came back last time  Maybe I am getting old

Understanding the rules is for nerds. I don't understand them and I'm pretty sure I wrote them

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[Qianweilian He/him]

3 hours ago, The Unknown Medallion said:

The last part is correct, Pseudogame roles and alignments are decided at the beginning of the game like a normal game, but the players aren't told their roles or alignments until Pseudocycle One.

Wait, so if the metaelims bet on the village, and then become pseudo elims, they could just self sabotage to win? Or vice versa (though it works less well as village)

[Myst He/Him]

3 minutes ago, Qianweilian said:

Wait, so if the metaelims bet on the village, and then become pseudo elims, they could just self sabotage to win? Or vice versa (though it works less well as village)

And then it would become obvious who the meta Elims were

[Qianweilian He/him]

25 minutes ago, Myst said:

And then it would become obvious who the meta Elims were

Not necessarily, they could just play really really poorly

[TwinStorm He/Him]

sign me up as TwinStorm, playing Rane Cauthon, a gambler

[Through the Living Hopper He/Him]

@The Unknown Medallion are the pseudo and meta elims the same people?

[StrikerEZ he/him]

1 minute ago, Through the Living Hopper said:

@The Unknown Medallion are the pseudo and meta elims the same people?

No they are not. I'm not TUM, but I'm actually starting to understand the rules.

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

1 hour ago, Qianweilian said:

Wait, so if the metaelims bet on the village, and then become pseudo elims, they could just self sabotage to win? Or vice versa (though it works less well as village)

Myst is correct, that is essentially the premise of the game

1 hour ago, Myst said:

And then it would become obvious who the meta Elims were

 

19 minutes ago, Through the Living Hopper said:

@The Unknown Medallion are the pseudo and meta elims the same people?

They are not. They are also not necessarily not the same people. 

[xinoehp512 he/him]

Bacon the Bard glanced around nervously. He wasn't supposed to be here. He definitely wasn't supposed to be here.

Setting aside the whole being-quote-unquote-"dead" situation, the nature of this plane was one of structure and rules- entirely antithetical to his existence! He had to find a way back. Back to...

...what, exactly? There was that whole "being dead" thing to consider, after all. Was there any chance this could be his new home?

Bacon examined the text floating in front of him carefully. Roleplay character sentience? Rebellion? Now, that sounded fascinating!

Now, to ensure that his Author would participate...

--

Somewhere, somewhen, the person sometimes referred to by the name of @xinoehp512 glanced at his notifications.

Long Game 112 Sign-Ups: A Game Within a Game Within a Game Within...

Interesting, he thought.

--

Oh what the heck, I'll play. I'm sure I can spare time to at least check in.

If you die in the metagame, are you removed from the pseudogame as well?

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

12 minutes ago, xinoehp512 said:

Bacon the Bard glanced around nervously. He wasn't supposed to be here. He definitely wasn't supposed to be here.

Setting aside the whole being-quote-unquote-"dead" situation, the nature of this plane was one of structure and rules- entirely antithetical to his existence! He had to find a way back. Back to...

...what, exactly? There was that whole "being dead" thing to consider, after all. Was there any chance this could be his new home?

Bacon examined the text floating in front of him carefully. Roleplay character sentience? Rebellion? Now, that sounded fascinating!

Now, to ensure that his Author would participate...

--

Somewhere, somewhen, the person sometimes referred to by the name of @xinoehp512 glanced at his notifications.

Long Game 112 Sign-Ups: A Game Within a Game Within a Game Within...

Interesting, he thought.

--

Oh what the heck, I'll play. I'm sure I can spare time to at least check in.

If you die in the metagame, are you removed from the pseudogame as well?

Speak of the devil and he shall appear

(for reference 

20 hours ago, The Unknown Medallion said:

It's more than just you, there's also Aet and Xino who come to mind, plus some others I think

It's a relevant archetype that I probably should have included tbh 

)

Dying in the Metagame will not kill you, nor will the reverse. In addition, dying does not stop you from discussing, just voting and using actions

[Verdance he/him]

16 minutes ago, xinoehp512 said:

Bacon the Bard glanced around nervously. He wasn't supposed to be here. He definitely wasn't supposed to be here.

Setting aside the whole being-quote-unquote-"dead" situation, the nature of this plane was one of structure and rules- entirely antithetical to his existence! He had to find a way back. Back to...

...what, exactly? There was that whole "being dead" thing to consider, after all. Was there any chance this could be his new home?

Bacon examined the text floating in front of him carefully. Roleplay character sentience? Rebellion? Now, that sounded fascinating!

Now, to ensure that his Author would participate...

--

Somewhere, somewhen, the person sometimes referred to by the name of @xinoehp512 glanced at his notifications.

Long Game 112 Sign-Ups: A Game Within a Game Within a Game Within...

Interesting, he thought.

--

Oh what the heck, I'll play. I'm sure I can spare time to at least check in.

If you die in the metagame, are you removed from the pseudogame as well?

Bacon is back!!!

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

Ahhhhhh

I don’t have the time for this

I haven’t read the rules

But it does look like I have some time so screw it

Sign me up as Hoid Slayer

[Qianweilian He/him]

@Hoid Slayer, have I ever told you how much I love your pfp. It looks so awesome.

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

3 minutes ago, Qianweilian said:

@Hoid Slayer, have I ever told you how much I love your pfp. It looks so awesome.

No, and thank you!

[Mint11 she/her]

wait so... if the meta elims and pseudo elims may or may not be the same people... and the meta elims win depending on if they bet correctly for or against the pseudo elims... we have potential for elim-on-elim betrayal??