Ashbringer he/him Posted March 9 Posted March 9 3 minutes ago, |TJ| said: Stick wanted Ash to do a reaction test in the thread, to inform you all that me and Stick elim-slipped in the dead doc. Ash misunderstood and thought Stick asked him to inform the thread that I had elim-slipped in the dead doc, which is what he did. ALSO, you HAVE access to the dead doc SMH I just realised xD I can confirm this, for any of the V!Survivors wondering Though technically I did what Stick said, just… only by half Not saying I trust TJ, I very much do not, but we’ve got other things to worry about. 14 minutes ago, Wonko the Sane said: I don't love being talked into the decision by just one player, though, especially since near the start of today some people seemed to think there was some kind of black mark on your name that I'm not aware of yet, that happened in the dead doc. Do you know what they're talking about? At this stage, I'm all in favor of you taking up a somewhat mayor-shaped position, yeah. Though the PM identification strat isn't as reliable as we could hope; As Aman just clarified, the Stone Mask is NOT auto-equipped on purchase. Maybe I’d be a popular Mayor, but that doesn’t mean I want to be one Which is probably why I got NKed early, if we’re being realistic. That being said: @Mistfallen Soldier, you’ve alluded to a plan you’ve been actively been working on, and I’ve been dying to know what it is, because I don’t think we or you have the time to wait and find out. Also @Doc12 how’s that paycheck looking, and are you about to do what I perhaps think you can do
Myst He/Him Posted March 9 Posted March 9 Just now, Ashbringer said: I can confirm this, for any of the V!Survivors wondering Though technically I did what Stick said, just… only by half Not saying I trust TJ, I very much do not, but we’ve got other things to worry about. Maybe I’d be a popular Mayor, but that doesn’t mean I want to be one Which is probably why I got NKed early, if we’re being realistic. That being said: @Mistfallen Soldier, you’ve alluded to a plan you’ve been actively been working on, and I’ve been dying to know what it is, because I don’t think we or you have the time to wait and find out. Also @Doc12 how’s that paycheck looking, and are you about to do what I perhaps think you can do The plan doesn’t work. I was kinda expecting this to happen. I had no confidence in our ability, this is flipless after all. What I expected was for them to lynch Hael or Twin, and then going into loop3 with 3+ Elims with 2- villagers. My plan was to get the stone mask, and basically force yall to exe the others, so that even if you mis-exe the villager, yo still hit two Elims, and we win. The problem is that now we have potentially 3- villagers, so even if I was unavailable, you could still hit two villagers. Plus, there’s people who could get the stone make before I can
Wonko the Sane he/him Posted March 9 Posted March 9 16 minutes ago, |TJ| said: Stick wanted Ash to do a reaction test in the thread, to inform you all that me and Stick elim-slipped in the dead doc. Ash misunderstood and thought Stick asked him to inform the thread that I had elim-slipped in the dead doc, which is what he did. ALSO, you HAVE access to the dead doc SMH I just realised xD Yeah, but do you know how much reading I have to do still to catch up? I'll get to it eventually. That makes things a little better, though. You definitely seemed to be making good points at the end of the dead doc.
|TJ| he/him Posted March 9 Posted March 9 13 minutes ago, Wonko the Sane said: Yeah, but do you know how much reading I have to do still to catch up? I'll get to it eventually. Page 16 if it helps Also, SMH no one corrected me. I just realised that the 10 rupees cap is per cycle and not per turn >> So the math on Burnt's purse is wrong but for the better. Turn RP Posts Discussion Posts Purchases Rupees Cumulative Accurate D1A 2 3 ? 5 5 10 N1A 3 2 ? 5 10 D2A 1 5 - 6 16 20 N2A 4 1 - 5 21 D3A 0 3 - 3 24 28 N3A 4 1 - 5 29 D1B 5+ 3 20 -12 17 18 N1B 3 2 - 5 22 D2B 1 4 - 5 27 28 N2B 4 2 - 6 33 D3B 0 3 - 3 36 37 N3B 4 2 - 6 42 Do we know the Bunny Hood claim for Loop 2?
Myst He/Him Posted March 9 Posted March 9 2 minutes ago, |TJ| said: Page 16 if it helps Also, SMH no one corrected me. I just realised that the 10 rupees cap is per cycle and not per turn >> So the math on Burnt's purse is wrong but for the better. Turn RP Posts Discussion Posts Purchases Rupees Cumulative Accurate D1A 2 3 ? 5 5 10 N1A 3 2 ? 5 10 D2A 1 5 - 6 16 20 N2A 4 1 - 5 21 D3A 0 3 - 3 24 28 N3A 4 1 - 5 29 D1B 5+ 3 20 -12 17 18 N1B 3 2 - 5 22 D2B 1 4 - 5 27 28 N2B 4 2 - 6 33 D3B 0 3 - 3 36 37 N3B 4 2 - 6 42 Do we know the Bunny Hood claim for Loop 2? Nope, which makes me think Doc or Twin has it. Hoid mentioned doing a mask buy to help whoever was switching in for him. Bunny would help with that. Or Doc, Coco has said she didn’t have a mask. I said I didn’t, Burnt claimed Scents, and Hael hasn’t mentioned anything, so Doc is kinda the only one left.
|TJ| he/him Posted March 9 Posted March 9 5 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: Nope, which makes me think Doc or Twin has it. Hoid mentioned doing a mask buy to help whoever was switching in for him. Bunny would help with that. Or Doc, Coco has said she didn’t have a mask. I said I didn’t, Burnt claimed Scents, and Hael hasn’t mentioned anything, so Doc is kinda the only one left. @Doc12?
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted March 9 Posted March 9 (edited) 9 hours ago, |TJ| said: do you think the Loop 2 dead doc is pure then? Stick, Wonko, or Araris could be evil I think or maybe it is pure idk or not. honestly not going to fully rule out evil Archer even, but I don't think it's the most important part of the game state to focus on with the 6-player 3-elims suspect pool and also Burnt v Mistfallen playing out. But I think you're semi aware of that since you're not voting Archer today. Even if a lot of your analysis still brings up Archer a lot 9 hours ago, Archer said: Wonko had Bunny Mask L1, we assumed that contributed to their death. oh, huh 8 hours ago, Stick. said: well i feel pretty vindicated disagree that this is not an e/e play, seems like the exact kinda e/e play ud do in desperate times when everyone has been pushing a burnt/mistfallen pairing - this is essentially lylo tho I’ll say to me this indicates mistfallen has probably very little money/is expendable rn and burnt wants to live, so that’s where im leaning for today Stick, who has been pushing a burnt/mistfallen pairing name one person like am I crazy or are u just making this up 5 hours ago, Archer said: I can't find when Doc first revealed who exactly each PM went to, just the initial admission that they can track it. It's here: was in a spoiler so not easy to find if you're skimming 5 hours ago, Archer said: I'll repeat my blue mask math which is that the odds of there being one elim in Divergent/Doc/Coco/Wonko are at most 50%, two is 25%. what is the blue mask math? 4 hours ago, Wahrheitswächter said: Had not much time to keep up with the loop today, since theres now irl stuff keeping me busy. I saw a the suggestion that at least one of Burnt/Mistfallen is elim, maybe both. And with the scent claim from Burn earlier today, I can see where this comes from. Theres also a lot of suspicion against Coco. I can go with a Coco exe, but might change, as I will try to reread the current loop to get a better grip on whats happened so far. Yeah, I think the Scents Mask claim entails at least one of them is definitely evil, I don't think an alternative explanation really exists I think the "default" play here is definitely to execute one of those 2 players. Some people are theorizing that evil Burnt is trying to distract for a richer teammate like Coco, which I think is sort of reasonable? But personally I think the burden of proof for voting away from the confirmed suspect pool of 2 is higher. Edited March 9 by DrakeMarshall merging double post
|TJ| he/him Posted March 9 Posted March 9 (edited) 6 hours ago, The Unknown Medallion said: I think, if the elims wanted Mist to be exed today, there would be more votes on Mist. 15 hours ago, coco.pudding said: I’m not sure what’s going on with the Mistfallen/Burnt situation. They’re both people we’ve been coming back to at different points. They’ve both been a leading train at some point as well. Hm. I think I feel a bit more suspicious of Mistfallen at the moment, their reaction felt a little weird to me? And a lot of our interactions last cycle also made me fairly suspicious. Also didn’t love their whole bit about how getting killed would soft clear them, it felt like them trying to justify not getting killed. TUM, this is what I meant. They would not all vote on Mistfallen so as to not out themselves, but here I read Coco as dropping crumbs/testing waters for a future Mistfallen vote. ed1t: 29 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: or not. honestly not going to fully rule out evil Archer even, but I don't think it's the most important part of the game state to focus on with the 6-player 3-elims suspect pool and also Burnt v Mistfallen playing out. But I think you're semi aware of that since you're not voting Archer today. Even if a lot of your analysis still brings up Archer a lot Yeahhh, I realised and mentioned as much to Archer earlier. He's a post-D2 discussion :P. Edited March 9 by |TJ|
Haelbarde he/him Posted March 9 Posted March 9 5 hours ago, Wonko the Sane said: Hael claimed repeatedly not to remember that I had the Bunny Hood for Loop A. This is either a lie, or solid confirmation that he's village; I am nearly certain that the elim doc contained serious discussion of it. This also applies to Drake, but slightly less so, as he could simply have been responding to Hael's mistake by trying to appear just as mistaken. I found the post now and I understand my problem - I did a ctrl-f for 'mask' on every page and just assumed that even non masks would get talked about in the vicinity of masks, but alas. I should have searched for bunny >> There hasn't been a claim for loop 2 though right? 54 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: Hael hasn’t mentioned anything While I edited the Bunny hood onto my avatar in an attempt to try and soft claim Bunny mask last loop, even this turn no one has commented on it, and I can say out right that I did not have it.
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted March 9 Posted March 9 4 hours ago, The Unknown Medallion said: we can figure out who got the mask by making them do PMs I think? absolute cinema also Aman ruled that PMing someone counts as the Postman targeting them, so another way is if 1 person PMs all the folks who might've afforded it their own unique "I don't have the stone mask" code, then whoever has it equipped can't receive that PM and will be outed but your way is probably cleaner 1
Divergent He/Him Posted March 9 Posted March 9 (edited) 2 hours ago, |TJ| said: My assumption is they put forward the plan to "exe them both" to guarantee an elim death, then push/bus the elim who got the Stone on the final Day for the win. They banked really hard on the village only focusing on Burnt/Mistfallen in this cycle which would have allowed for the other elim to get the Stone and even if we pushed an exe on them D3, they don't die and we lose. Also, could you explain the 50% bit? Hmmm true, that makes this a really tricky situation For us to win, we need to exe 2 elims this loop and 2 elims the next loop. And since we can only get a 2 - 2 tie with elims in number of loops won, we will be proceeding to a final day 4, where we have to execute a 3rd elim (as this final day continues from loop 4 and does not resurrect anyone). So e!Burnt lying and putting herself in a 1 v 1 with Mistfallen gives us the opportunity to ensure we have a 50% chance of winning on that final day if we execute other elims on the 4th loop and keep them both alive until the final day, where we choose who is elim between them. But, I guess thinking about it, maybe I'm thinking too far ahead and they are ultimately putting their eggs towards gunning hard for the win in this loop Edited March 9 by Divergent
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted March 9 Posted March 9 1 hour ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: I can literally prove I can’t you know getting max rupees all loos gets me up to 70. Subtract 20 for the mask of scents, and then 7 from the PMs I sent. I can’t Burnt also claimed the mask of scents, she also sent PMs. She can’t either. Doc lost 7 rupees of his buying of the postman(he spent 11 on PMs, 5 to but, but only got like 8 back) mask. As long as he didn’t get a red mask last loop he can get a purple. Coco never sent PMs, and never got a red, she can get a purple what are you claiming the Mask of Scents here? what?
Myst He/Him Posted March 9 Posted March 9 Just now, DrakeMarshall said: what are you claiming the Mask of Scents here? what? I had the scents mask loop 1
Divergent He/Him Posted March 9 Posted March 9 I think it'd be important to note that someone has definitely bought the Mask of Scents on Loop 2, since it had been shown to be out of stock during Night 1B. Either Burnt bought it or an elim teammate bought it (if e!Burnt and no one else has counterclaimed having bought said mask)
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted March 9 Posted March 9 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: I had the scents mask loop 1 oh. um? how does that work? loop 1 you could not have had 20 rupees by the end of Night 1A. oh, people can start with rupees. it doesn't look like anyone's math about how many rupees Burnt has is factoring that in though? edit: for that matter, neither is it factored into your own math about how you couldn't possibly afford the Scents Mask? Edited March 9 by DrakeMarshall
Myst He/Him Posted March 9 Posted March 9 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: oh. um? how does that work? loop 1 you could not have had 20 rupees by the end of Night 1A. oh, people can start with rupees. it doesn't look like anyone's math about how many rupees Burnt has is factoring that in though? 10 to start with(we all got a bonus) and then I got all my rupees for the cycle D1, and the. I bought it N1. Edit: yall know I’ve been rupee maxing Edited March 9 by Mistfallen Soldier
Doc12 Posted March 9 Posted March 9 I got mentioned a lot today. I have a lot to catch up on, but it seems everyone was asking about my mask. I can confirm that I grabbed bunny and have been trying to maximize post count. Be back after I do a whole bunch of reading. 1
Myst He/Him Posted March 9 Posted March 9 3 minutes ago, Doc12 said: I got mentioned a lot today. I have a lot to catch up on, but it seems everyone was asking about my mask. I can confirm that I grabbed bunny and have been trying to maximize post count. Be back after I do a whole bunch of reading. Gotcha, that means you, Coco, Ash, and potentially Burnt(if she’s lying about having scents and Coco actually has it) are possible Stone mask people.
|TJ| he/him Posted March 9 Posted March 9 9 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: it doesn't look like anyone's math about how many rupees Burnt has is factoring that in though? Hmm +10 makes it 47 worst case. Cutting it close...
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted March 9 Posted March 9 7 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: 10 to start with(we all got a bonus) and then I got all my rupees for the cycle D1, and the. I bought it N1. Edit: yall know I’ve been rupee maxing yeah so 10 starting rupees + 30 for L1 + 30 for L2 + 10 for Day 1 of L3 = 80 -27 = 53, which is greater than 50 right?
Doc12 Posted March 9 Posted March 9 Apologies, I came on as soon as I got home, but rl responsibilities call, back in another hour or so.
Myst He/Him Posted March 9 Posted March 9 2 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: yeah so 10 starting rupees + 30 for L1 + 30 for L2 + 10 for Day 1 of L3 = 80 -27 = 53, which is greater than 50 right? Yeah, so tonight I can get a purple mask. I don’t have the 7 I need from today yet. But the other people can get one today.
|TJ| he/him Posted March 9 Posted March 9 @DrakeMarshall you don't get to spend the rupees you earn today, I just asked so Mistfallen is on 43.
Myst He/Him Posted March 9 Posted March 9 8 minutes ago, |TJ| said: @DrakeMarshall you don't get to spend the rupees you earn today, I just asked so Mistfallen is on 43. Exactly, tonight I will buy a purple mask(if I’m alive and if they aren’t all taken by then)
coco.pudding she/they Posted March 9 Posted March 9 50 minutes ago, |TJ| said: They would not all vote on Mistfallen so as to not out themselves, but here I read Coco as dropping crumbs/testing waters for a future Mistfallen vote. Oh my bad I actually fully thought I voted Mistfallen there (And yes, I know you don’t believe me, and that’s your prerogative, but it was very late and I was tired, so I just forgot to actually make the vote official) So anyway I’ll do that now Mistfallen 3 hours ago, Araris Valerian said: @Archer @coco.pudding out of curiosity, do either of you feel like the other has been behaving in a way to deliberately make the two of you seem to be on a team? Or are you both reasonably convinced the other is village? Like I’ve said before, the “connection” between us has been mostly one-sided, with Archer defending me quite a lot and giving a strong village read on me. I’ve been very back and forth about him, kind of struggling to pin down an actually decent read. But I think with him going boom I feel pretty good about him being village now. I don’t think an elim would have done that unless they intended to throw the loop and try to get village cred for him so he’s now pretty firmly in village territory for me. 2 hours ago, |TJ| said: She fits the elim team I am hypothesizing as well. Curious what the elim team you’re hypothesizing is? Obviously me and Burnt but who are the other two? Also, why are you so certain about Mistfallen being village? 1 minute ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: Exactly, tonight I will buy a purple mask(if I’m alive and if they aren’t all taken by then) I doubt they will be, there’s very few that can buy one during the day (less than 4 fs) and someone may decide to go for something else instead. Just out of curiosity which purple are you most interested in? Ik y’all think I’m elim and will probably vote me out today but on the off chance that doesn’t happen I’d like to try to coordinate a little bit since it seems like who gets which purples (and which team they are on) is going to be very important this loop.
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