Mental health club!

[Aeoryi she/her]

1 minute ago, Verdance said:

Not exactly 

but Den has proven to be a respectful and brilliant debater, the lars time we spoke about religion and philosophy was very productive, and i hope he can say the same about me

ill try not to sidetrack the discussion though, thanks

I'll suggest moving it to a PM or something

[Denissimo He/him]

50 minutes ago, Verdance said:

I’m honestly offended, not by you specifically but still… I try and use theology as well as traditional logical philosophy. Ecclesiastes is basically an entire book of the Bible which boils down to:

1. Life is meaningless

2. A simple life of manageable struggle gives life meaning

3. God gives life meaning

I would consider myself both religious and absurdist. They’re not mutually exclusive.

This doesn’t refer to any form of morality or purity- im using the color black as a metaphor for depression, difficult circumstances, and deep painful emotion, while white is the exact opposite.

yeah, that’s definitely part of what im trying to get across. Growth is colorful and messy and that’s okay! 

and i made a qualifier below that…

 

That's on me. I'll clarify again that I'm apprehensive as to adhereing to Camus's religious views, as it leans too far into intolerance and an absolute rejection, which I am not all for. The reason I had put his postulation there was because it was central to his concept of philosophical death, which is in turn (I think) imperative to understanding his arguments in regards to the absurd.

Sorry about that. I'll pop it in a spoiler box or something.

I'd advise all interested to look more into absurdism. I can share an online copy of the Myth of Sisyphus, if you PM me requesitng it. I'm not sure how well I represented his arguments, and how well I can represent his arguments without causing some conflict within the community, which I do not want.

I won't say much more about this, as I'm at a risk of going further off topic. Anyone curious can PM me.

 

34 minutes ago, Verdance said:

Not exactly 

but Den has proven to be a respectful and brilliant debater, the lars time we spoke about religion and philosophy was very productive, and i hope he can say the same about me

ill try not to sidetrack the discussion though, thanks

Your points were consistent. We got to the "threshhold of opinion" quite quickly, which (in my opinion) is a mark of mutually productive debating and discussion; As there weren't any logical fallacies either side could pick at. The odd misunderstanding came up, but it was easily rectified.

I appreciate the complement, though I'm not sure if I agree with it; However, I certainly reciprocate the opinion.

[Usseewa]

On 5/26/2026 at 11:46 AM, Denissimo said:

That's on me. I'll clarify again that I'm apprehensive as to adhereing to Camus's religious views, as it leans too far into intolerance and an absolute rejection, which I am not all for. The reason I had put his postulation there was because it was central to his concept of philosophical death, which is in turn (I think) imperative to understanding his arguments in regards to the absurd.

Sorry about that. I'll pop it in a spoiler box or something.

I'd advise all interested to look more into absurdism. I can share an online copy of the Myth of Sisyphus, if you PM me requesitng it. I'm not sure how well I represented his arguments, and how well I can represent his arguments without causing some conflict within the community, which I do not want.

I won't say much more about this, as I'm at a risk of going further off topic. Anyone curious can PM me.

 

Your points were consistent. We got to the "threshhold of opinion" quite quickly, which (in my opinion) is a mark of mutually productive debating and discussion; As there weren't any logical fallacies either side could pick at. The odd misunderstanding came up, but it was easily rectified.

I appreciate the complement, though I'm not sure if I agree with it; However, I certainly reciprocate the opinion.

POV me literally started reading Myth of Sisyphus today (before I saw this post or anything)

 

edit: damn, looks like I missed wayyy too much nice lengthy/thoughtful/insightful/etc. posts here that I would've loved to read. (I'm being serious, in case that wasn't apparent. I'd love to know more but it's overwhelming to see all I missed.)

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[Aeoryi she/her]

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uh how do I get myself to eat again

I can't believe I somehow made it worse

which scares me

 

[Verdance he/him]

38 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

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uh how do I get myself to eat again

I can't believe I somehow made it worse

which scares me

 

tough

what’s your favorite food

i promise this is related

Also i have a slightly bizarre and massive post coming soon to a mental health club near you but let me resolve this thread rq

[Aeoryi she/her]

12 minutes ago, Verdance said:

tough

what’s your favorite food

i promise this is related

Also i have a slightly bizarre and massive post coming soon to a mental health club near you but let me resolve this thread rq

I've always liked pizza. but beware health effects 

[Keteᛕ He/Him/His]

Just now, Aeoryi said:

I've always liked pizza. but beware health effects 

then just get cauliflower crust, much healthier, still delicious

[Verdance he/him]

1 minute ago, Aeoryi said:

I've always liked pizza. but beware health effects 

Make your own :3

i have always found that cooking gives me an appetite cause i want to use good ingredients and make good food and be creative and stuff and that gets me excited about food

usually for me its some sort of mexican cultural appropriation food because yummi 

but you can 100% make pizza if you have skills

[Aeoryi she/her]

15 minutes ago, Through The Living Ketek said:

then just get cauliflower crust, much healthier, still delicious

That isn't really what the issue is. The issue is I don't feel hungry very often even though I'm not getting enough food and that I'm struggling to eat because of anxiety and stuff.

14 minutes ago, Verdance said:

Make your own :3

i have always found that cooking gives me an appetite cause i want to use good ingredients and make good food and be creative and stuff and that gets me excited about food

usually for me its some sort of mexican cultural appropriation food because yummi 

but you can 100% make pizza if you have skills

That'd be a lot of work to do. And it isn't really a permanent solution 

[Verdance he/him]

1 minute ago, Aeoryi said:

That isn't really what the issue is. The issue is I don't feel hungry very often even though I'm not getting enough food and that I'm struggling to eat because of anxiety and stuff.

That'd be a lot of work to do. And it isn't really a permanent solution 

Oh, sorry

best i could think of

well, im no expert on psychology related to eating disorders, not much else i can do to help but wish you luck and prayer

[Aeoryi she/her]

2 minutes ago, Verdance said:

Oh, sorry

best i could think of

well, im no expert on psychology related to eating disorders, not much else i can do to help but wish you luck and prayer

it's a weird problem. high lethality rate though. 

[Myst He/Him]

5 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

it's a weird problem. high lethality rate though. 

Fair

I have a friend who also has problems eating, which isn’t helped by the fact that she’s also allergic to literally everything right now

Best advice I can give is two things things that seem to be working(ish) for her

The first is to always have something on you so that if/when you do feel hungry you have something on hand and so you don’t have to go through the process of finding something and realizing you’re no longer hungry

The second is that liquids are great and you can get a lot of energy from them(depending on what it is) and it’s generally easier than actual food

[Deception He/Him]

I know someone who just drinks a lot of smoothies and stuff. Apparently liquids are easier than solid food when you aren't hungry.

I'm not 100% sure about this, but I think if you want to actually fix the eating problem you will need to cope with the anxiety one first.

[Verdance he/him]

Okay, this is a weird one

Yall know intrusive thoughts, right? I tend to categorize mine by severity, like, ‘i want to eat that muffin’ to ‘i want to sing in public’ to ‘i want to kiss that person’ to ‘i want to kill that person’ to ‘i want to kill myself’

And luckily I have not had to deal with intrusive thought levels three through five for a while now, mostly. But im having like, a level six intrusive thought that i honestly don’t even know can be called an intrusive thought because its so deliberate instead of impulsive. Im calling it that because its illogical in every possible way and appears spontaneously, but it is not just a random impulse, i have seriously considered it because i am certifiably insane 

So uh buckle up cause this is weird

But i literally cannot stop thinking about looking for a romantic relationship with someone i know who will break my heart. 

Like idek know where this came from or why it keeps popping up, I believe dating in my life should primarily be for the purpose of marriage, and have already decided on strict boundaries for how far i would be willing to go emotionally, financially, and physically with someone i decide to date 

But for some reason the idea keeps appearing in my mind that i should get my heart broken. The idea varies from asking someone out who is simply not interested in me to doing the same with someone who might literally try to abuse me. Like seriously, where are these thoughts coming from??? Its not like any of these values are going to stand there

I actually have pinned down the motivation, and its also really illogical. Personal, validation of my emotions and art. I have very little reason to be depressed, but i listen to a decent amount of music that references dysfunctional relationships, which i usually interpret as my own experiences with my parents (again, not abusive, but definitely dysfunctional). 

So this feels like depression is actively seeking a reason to exist even though my life is okay, and trying to make my life worse

Which is not how depression works but idk its terrifying anyway

[#1 Taln Fan he/him]

4 hours ago, Aeoryi said:

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Kinda depends on if it’s more an issue of just not being hungry and struggling to make yourself eat, or more of a mental block of being afraid of gaining weight. If the former, liquid calories are a great way as mentioned before. If it’s the latter, it’s gonna be hard to eat more until you fix the underlying body image issues. (Though you should still try to eat because you have to eat to live and function well) And there’s different ways one can go about that, the best of which being therapy, depending on the severity

If it’s any extra motivation, eating a proper amount and a well balanced diet also helps general mental health as well, so you’re not just eating to benefit your physical health and survive, but also your quality of life.

 

10 minutes ago, Verdance said:

So this feels like depression is actively seeking a reason to exist even though my life is okay, and trying to make my life worse

Sounds like you’re spot on, this would be my guess as well. Good on you for being that self aware to know this about yourself. It’s kinda what I’ve mentioned to you before about self verification therapy. Your brain sees the depression as the norm and wants to find ways to cling on. But eventually your unconscious identity can and will change. You’re allowed to be happy, and it’s good to consciously affirm that fact

 

At least in my mind, that kinda is how depression works in a way. Or at least, how the brain works if you believe self verification theory, which then applies to depression

But psychologists disagree on a lot of stuff xD

[Verdance he/him]

7 minutes ago, #1 Taln Fan said:

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Kinda depends on if it’s more an issue of just not being hungry and struggling to make yourself eat, or more of a mental block of being afraid of gaining weight. If the former, liquid calories are a great way as mentioned before. If it’s the latter, it’s gonna be hard to eat more until you fix the underlying body image issues. (Though you should still try to eat because you have to eat to live and function well) And there’s different ways one can go about that, the best of which being therapy, depending on the severity

If it’s any extra motivation, eating a proper amount and a well balanced diet also helps general mental health as well, so you’re not just eating to benefit your physical health and survive, but also your quality of life.

 

Sounds like you’re spot on, this would be my guess as well. Good on you for being that self aware to know this about yourself. It’s kinda what I’ve mentioned to you before about self verification therapy. Your brain sees the depression as the norm and wants to find ways to cling on. But eventually your unconscious identity can and will change. You’re allowed to be happy, and it’s good to consciously affirm that fact

 

At least in my mind, that kinda is how depression works in a way. Or at least, how the brain works if you believe self verification theory, which then applies to depression

But psychologists disagree on a lot of stuff xD

It’s legitimately a storming shadow demon hanging out in my hippocampus 

i am roommates with this guy for life and he does nothing but play rainbow six siege and make bad life decisions for me

Thanks for the follow up, appreciate it!

[Deception He/Him]

Does anyone find it a bit strange that we're talking about this stuff on a Brandon Sanderson fan based book discussion forum?

I guess its because the nature of this site naturally filters out idiots and bullies because it's a literal book discussion forum and the community is really nice, but still... a book forum? Not telling people to stop using this, it's really good, but again: a book forum? Really?

[Myst He/Him]

1 minute ago, Deception said:

Does anyone find it a bit strange that we're talking about this stuff on a Brandon Sanderson fan based book discussion forum?

I guess its because the nature of this site naturally filters out idiots and bullies because it's a literal book discussion forum and the community is really nice, but still... a book forum? Not telling people to stop using this, it's really good, but again: a book forum? Really?

Well, what other group is going to understand you better than a group of similarly obsessed people?

[Aeoryi she/her]

14 minutes ago, Deception said:

Does anyone find it a bit strange that we're talking about this stuff on a Brandon Sanderson fan based book discussion forum?

I guess its because the nature of this site naturally filters out idiots and bullies because it's a literal book discussion forum and the community is really nice, but still... a book forum? Not telling people to stop using this, it's really good, but again: a book forum? Really?

I'm going to be straightforward with you: Who are you to judge the decisions of others? 

[Deception He/Him]

14 minutes ago, Myst said:

Well, what other group is going to understand you better than a group of similarly obsessed people?

Good point. Sure would understand you better than some random kid struggling with a completely unrelated problem like it sometimes is in mental health groups.

I guess there's also just also a very strong correlation between people that are active on this forum and people with mental health issues, neurodiverse people, and a lot of other minority groups. I don't know if this is because of the actual topic of the forum or just because there is such a good diverse community here though.

I actually don't think I've seen a single real insult, bad cursing, slurs, or even any hate against the LGBTQIA+ community, which is very common on the internet. Someone could post a question here with "Gay | Trans | Autistic | Depressed | Latino" in their signature box in big red letters and (from what I've seen at least) get the same responses as a random typical white dude. This is rare on the internet, although it is getting better. I think this is one of the real reasons people like us gravitate towards this forum.

 

1 minute ago, Aeoryi said:

I'm going to be straightforward with you: Who are you to judge the decisions of others? 

Ok ok sorry. I'm not trying to judge. I just think it's interesting that everyone here is on a book forum of all things. I'm including myself in that "everyone".

[Aeoryi she/her]

we uphold a high community standard on the shard. You will not see bigotry of any kind here.

[Deception He/Him]

28 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

we uphold a high community standard on the shard. You will not see bigotry of any kind here

Good. A welcome change away from Roblox lol. One time I revealed my autism in the Roblox chat just to see if the server was toxic  and ... uhhh ... let's just say they were. Luckily I couldn't care less about random strangers attacking me digitally. It's so disgusting how like <5% of people ruin things for the rest of us. Luckily those people seem to get bored while reading the Stormlight Archive and mostly never make it to the forum.

chat log looked something like this (Don't worry I didn't include anything too offensive):

Spoiler

Player: bro stop running

Me: why

Player: you're so autistic

Me: you're right! How did you guess? --- reveals

Player: ########## (it got filtered)

Player: idiot sped.

Player: <incoherent rage mixed with random fake apologies>

Me: Ok nice to know. Bye!

Nothing like whatever that was ever happens on this forum. A much needed break.

 

Ok ima shut my yapper now. Maybe I'll actually stop this time... no, that would mean something was seriously wrong with me. Ima go spread the brick cult now.

BRICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Aeoryi she/her]

As you mature and grow, you will find yourself surrounded by people who you feel comfortable around, and you will withdraw from spaces you are not. (For example, roblox)

[Deception He/Him]

2 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

As you mature and grow, you will find yourself surrounded by people who you feel comfortable around, and you will withdraw from spaces you are not. (For example, roblox)

Aaand there is the problem. "You will withdraw from spaces you are not". So, (school/college/work - not about to reveal my age)? Yea, I think I'm stuck for a while. Besides I have a massive friends and followers network on Roblox so sometimes I literally pull waves of friendly people behind me when I enter a server, which definitely helps. A bit harder to do that in real life.

 

Roblox friendship making:

Me: Here, take this OP gun

Them: Thanks! Want to be friends?

Me: Sure!

Them: <sends a friend request>

 

Real life friendship making:

Me: <says nothing>

Them: uhhhh want to sit over here?

Me: ok sure

Them: <silence>

Me: What's your name?

Them: [name]

Me: I'm [not telling u internet people]

Them: <awkward silence>

Me: <awkward silence>

Them: do you like to do _____?

Me: No

<awkward silence>

[Myst He/Him]

1 minute ago, Deception said:

Real life friendship making:

Me: <says nothing>

Them: uhhhh want to sit over here?

Me: ok sure

Them: <silence>

Me: What's your name?

Them: [name]

Me: I'm [not telling u internet people]

Them: <awkward silence>

Me: <awkward silence>

Them: do you like to do _____?

Me: No

<awkward silence>

AND IT DOESNT GET BETTER ONCE YOURE ACTUALLY FRIENDS EITHER!!

Me: hey [name]

Them: Hi!

*awkward silence*

Me: so… uhm… How’s life been?

Social Anxiety sucks