CadCom he/him Posted June 22, 2024 Posted June 22, 2024 Ok, so I know I formatted removing my vote from TUA and moving it to ash. But it's no where in thread, so I must've forgot to submit.
The Unknown Character he/him Posted June 22, 2024 Posted June 22, 2024 1 hour ago, CadCom said: Ok, so I know I formatted removing my vote from TUA and moving it to ash. But it's no where in thread, so I must've forgot to submit. Not that it would have mattered unless you guys were doing sneaky VM over there.
RoyalBeeMage he/him Posted June 22, 2024 Posted June 22, 2024 1 hour ago, The Unknown Order said: Not that it would have mattered unless you guys were doing sneaky VM over there. there probably was some fancy vote manipulation happening.
The Unknown Character he/him Posted June 22, 2024 Posted June 22, 2024 Switching it up? Well, so will we. CadCom
RoyalBeeMage he/him Posted June 23, 2024 Posted June 23, 2024 CadCom 1 hour ago, The Unknown Order said: Switching it up? Well, so will we. CadCom its not that much difrent is it?
Kasimir he/him Posted June 23, 2024 Posted June 23, 2024 IMO, we'll give you all a choice. You can try to finagle it to win with Bee, or we'll arrange it so that we'll lose but screw Bee thoroughly out of a win. My bet is that when forced to make a pick, you'll pick your own win over Bee. If a 3p sides against your faction, it's fair game to make them lose, and that's what we'll do. Just stating this plainly Bee: this isn't blackmail. We are open to discussion about whether you want to push against them this cycle but I don't remotely feel we are obligated to sit here and let you win, and at this point, I think screwing you over is a good end goal for my faction regardless of the outcome
CadCom he/him Posted June 23, 2024 Posted June 23, 2024 Bee. I'm wondering why my claim to you In PM wasn't enough to side with us. I thought it was pretty good evidence that it would be easier for us to pull off the W than them?
The Unknown Character he/him Posted June 23, 2024 Posted June 23, 2024 Carrot and the stick, eh? This isn't as convincing as you think, or at least it shouldn't be. If RBM sides against us, we just do the same thing. My team, however, has taken precautions to make RBMs win as likely as possible working for us. I'm confident in my win regardless (which you obviously aren't, seeing your tactics), so I can expend resources to help RBM.
CadCom he/him Posted June 23, 2024 Posted June 23, 2024 4 hours ago, Kidpen said: Cadcom Oh no, I've been betrayed. 4 hours ago, The Unknown Order said: Carrot and the stick, eh? This isn't as convincing as you think, or at least it shouldn't be. If RBM sides against us, we just do the same thing. My team, however, has taken precautions to make RBMs win as likely as possible working for us. I'm confident in my win regardless (which you obviously aren't, seeing your tactics), so I can expend resources to help RBM. May I ask what these precautions are? We had pretty good precautions last cycle that we were more likely to win, so I'm trying to figure out what your bait was that you were more likely to win. I also think our the conditions for our precautions to work are still largely met, given the cooperation from RBM
Araris Valerian he/him Posted June 23, 2024 Author Posted June 23, 2024 Around 3.5 hours left in the cycle. If folks are interested, I can reduce cycle times down to 24 hours, starting next cycle. Let me know in GM PMs (or docs, I'm reading those), but please don't discuss in the thread. If I get confirmation from everyone then I'll make the change.
Coffeecat she/her Posted June 23, 2024 Posted June 23, 2024 Sorry royal bee mage, gotta do it. Don't worry you will see the dead Doc is a fun place to hang out anyways
Araris Valerian he/him Posted June 24, 2024 Author Posted June 24, 2024 The game is over! I'll put up the aftermath thread for now, though there won't be a writeup yet.
Araris Valerian he/him Posted June 24, 2024 Author Posted June 24, 2024 (edited) Writeup to come later (or to be written by players, if they so desire) - The Inception Faction (Kas, Cadcom, Coffee) has been destroyed by the Reckoners! The Three MuskeTators (TUA, Ash, Kidpen) have won! RBM was an Independent Epic that failed to remove another faction (and was killed as a result). Thank you everyone for playing! I'd love to hear thoughts on the rules. I've put some into the spec doc (which is short and mostly my own ramblings), but I'll post more comprehensive thoughts here later. Vote Count: Cadcom(4): RBM, TUA, Kidpen, Ash RBM (3): Kas, Cadcom, Coffee Player List: Spoiler @Kasimir - Arsonist - Standard Fire Epic - The Inception Faction @The Unknown Ajah - Johan A. Samith - Sound Manipulation - The Three MuskeTators @CadCom - Richard Johnson - Unknown Powers - The Inception Faction @Mat - The Dwarf - Shrinking Power and also Short - Independent Epic @Aeternum - Fish - Incorporeality - Association of High Epics @Aeoryi - Electro - Flight, Shoot Electricity, Deluded - Association of High Epics @RoyalBeeMage - Helios - Lightbending - Independent Epic @Kidpen - Welder - Sticks Stuff - The Three MuskeTators @Ashbringer - Disperse - Telepathy - The Three MuskeTators @Coffeecat - Slimey - Shapeshifting - The Inception Faction @Sart - Pinch Hitter - Baseball Battery - Association of High Epics Docs and Spreadsheets: Spoiler Faction 1 (The Inception Faction) Faction 2 (The Association of High Epics) Faction 3 (The Three MuskeTators) Mat's Doc Dead/Spec Doc Master Spreadsheet Edited June 24, 2024 by Araris Valerian 3
The Unknown Character he/him Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 Sorry RBM, wish you could have won with us. Thank you @Araris Valerian for this wonderful game and ruleset. Thanks to @Elandera for IMing. Good job to all the other teams, you foiled my plans to end this game much sooner. Something something about truth being the only path to victory. I'm looking forward to all the docs. As for the rules, I think they were pretty dang balanced. IEs should probably be able to take each other out for the win. The actions felt pretty good, though I hesitate if that would have worked with 4 person factions. Having to decide which of Redirect, RB, Mark and Protect to not do was such a hard choice every round that 4 player factions would make much simpler. Vote Manip was kinda eh. Could have been simplified to a Sooth for the same affect, or could have removed the loss of your own vote to make it actually swing a 1-vote difference. A Riot isn't really necessary here. Roleblocks and Redirects were better balanced than we ever realized. Good job on those. The Mark Scan might have gotten some us with a 4 person team, but it was very underwhelming. Maybe as a free action? An interesting idea I had was give the Scan to IEs in addition to the Mark. It would help the knowledge gap and give them some additional leverage in alliances. Overall really liked this game and would play a re-run even as it is in a heartbeat. It was right up my alley. 4
Araris Valerian he/him Posted June 24, 2024 Author Posted June 24, 2024 7 minutes ago, The Unknown Order said: I'm looking forward to all the docs. Docs are posted now.
Mat he/him Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 Signed up looking forward to a fun doc game, but it was probably good I randed IE as I’m apparently prone to chronic inactivity these days >> I requested a doc anyway though which was fun even if I didn’t really use it. Also fun to simultaneously win and lose lol Thanks for running the game, Araris! I’ll probably play one more game before I leave for real in a month, but it’d have to be a QF that starts in exactly two weeks so we’ll see if that works out If not, well, it’s been fun. Thanks to all of you for being the best mafia community on the internet 3
RoyalBeeMage he/him Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 23 minutes ago, The Unknown Order said: Sorry RBM, wish you could have won with us. ehh its fine. you win some you lose some. i really thought that Kas was unmarked... thank you for hosting an amazing game @Araris Valerian!
Araris Valerian he/him Posted June 24, 2024 Author Posted June 24, 2024 48 minutes ago, Mat said: I’ll probably play one more game before I leave for real in a month, but it’d have to be a QF that starts in exactly two weeks so we’ll see if that works out If not, well, it’s been fun. Thanks to all of you for being the best mafia community on the internet I for one will be sad to see you go. Cadcom does have a QF he’s been wanting to run, so we might be able to set that up for you. 1
Kasimir he/him Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 1 hour ago, Mat said: I’ll probably play one more game before I leave for real in a month, but it’d have to be a QF that starts in exactly two weeks so we’ll see if that works out If not, well, it’s been fun. Thanks to all of you for being the best mafia community on the internet It's been fun Even if you had to hardcarry our one E game together
CadCom he/him Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 20 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: I for one will be sad to see you go. Cadcom does have a QF he’s been wanting to run, so we might be able to set that up for you. I'll be out of service the week of the 7th through 14, so I probably can't do a game rn, (possibility, I'll bring it up in the game sign up thread) I enjoyed this game. Sorry RBM. We actually targeted you in an odd attempt to give us another cycle. It didn't work. 1
Kasimir he/him Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 Just now, CadCom said: I enjoyed this game. Sorry RBM. We actually targeted you in an odd attempt to give us another cycle. It didn't work. Thanks for being fun factionmates, you and @Coffeecat both. And thanks for running, Araris! Honestly not sorry. Still don't feel we're obligated to let a hostile third party win in a faction game of all things. By the time they start acting against your wincon, it's a fair shout to push back hard. In fact, I'm glad they got screwed over - if anything, at least it's a good reminder in future that you know less than you think you do, and that screwing over other factions will mean they will do their damnedest to screw you over back. 1
Aeternum Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 Thanks for running the game, Araris! My highlight of this game was video game discussion with Kas 2
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