Mid-Range Game 67: 'Twas the Night Before SA5

[Kasimir he/him]

21 minutes ago, Ookla the Destined said:

Or just tell me when tallybot is back I like my handhold very much ;-;

Fixed. I just brute forced it by adding 'ooklil' and 'illwei' as valid votes. Added Eiwlil as well because why not, this lets me poke at Illwei when I can  Count looks correct.

And just as I said that it borked, but anyway Cash is dead, thank you RNGesus, so I don't need to fiddle with Ash's regex, I can just comment out Cash and have it work normally, praise the coding gods >>

[neil the beguiled]

will catch up 2 stuff i want to answer to 2morrow (finished another final 2day so im all done). noted with the suspicion on me but given its being forwwarded by arasis it feels more like an elim trying to shift blame atm, especially as that was where my suspicion lied yesterday and also given the similar push by arasis on cash yday. will give more thoughts when able. also hai ilwei o/ i hope you like getting poked at ^w^. maybe you can help me with my science project :9

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i do have a bit of time for RT for the next 10 mins as well if needed

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sad :[ 

Edited December 17, 2023 by neil the beguiled

[Illwei]

Whats up im not reading up i joined the losing team lets go guys

[Ashbringer he/him]

I AM BACK!

Or at least done with the semester and with classes and (mostly) grad school apps.

... And out of excuses to not be participating.

I've paid... a little attention but not much outside of am-I-dead-yet. Will try and find things tonight. My NKA is probably going to be less helpful especially because it's a lot of players I don't know that well but if no one's beaten me to it I can see what I can do.

[neil the beguiled]

4 minutes ago, Ooklil the Wei said:

Whats up im not reading up i joined the losing team lets go guys

youve been redchecked thats why i wrote your name in red .

 

also weba ash o/

i think ppl r wantinf ur input on NKA

[Illwei]

Just now, neil the beguiled said:

youve been redchecked thats why i wrote your name in red .

 

also weba ash o/

i think ppl r wantinf ur input on NKA

.....

 

Neel the eel??? what on earth are you doing here

[neil the beguiled]

2 minutes ago, Ooklil the Wei said:

.....

 

Neel the eel??? what on earth are you doing here

playing video games. 

[Illwei]

Wow there's a lot to read up on and a lot of it is hard to read so I've done a skim and have chosen to responded to some things that aren't important at all

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 IDk how did Devo even win this but like still it is possible.

@Ookla the Resolute it was a blackout game in which the wincon was to, to quote: 

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• Reckoner Allies: You are the uninformed majority. You win when Corrupted Epics are eliminated

and the factions were, to quote:

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Corrupted Epics [...] [and] Reckoner Allies.

Devo claimed calamity and at the very least I assumed that killing her was not neccessary, since the wincon was not along the lines of "Eliminate all threats" or "when only your faction is alive."

So yeah, that's how the solo faction won in that game, and it's still something i get tilted over to this day. hahah!!!!!!

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 Welcome to tunneling with Aeoryi! Today's subject of stretch logic and poor reasoning is Archer/Ookla the Paradigm!

I see potential in this one. Better formatting perhaps, some more graphics....and Aeoryi could be going places....

Also, To Kas.....

Spoiler

Please tell me I'm not and never have been this bad....please...
Reading Aeoryi just........................

Too many quotes in one post, so uh I'm just gonna post this for now : )

EDIT:
meant to @Kasimir

Edited December 17, 2023 by Ooklil the Wei
Correcting emoji to emoticon, tagging Kas

[Amanuensis he/him]

Hi illwei I hope you're readable because I've been having a very bad day

[Kasimir he/him]

@Eiwlil

Spoiler

I'm considering what the sentence for perjury is. I'll get back to you on it.

 

[Amanuensis he/him]

@Ooklil the Wei I recommend the bottom of this post for colorized VCs

Would help if I posted the post link @Ooklil the Wei

[Kasimir he/him]

55 minutes ago, Ashbringer said:

I AM BACK!

Or at least done with the semester and with classes and (mostly) grad school apps.

... And out of excuses to not be participating.

I've paid... a little attention but not much outside of am-I-dead-yet. Will try and find things tonight. My NKA is probably going to be less helpful especially because it's a lot of players I don't know that well but if no one's beaten me to it I can see what I can do.

I did some but I trust you on it more than me. Also congrats!

[Illwei]

Ok honestly going to say that I have to do more tomorrow if possible since it's nearly time for me to sleep and I will be at wo-wait no i won't i open tomorrow....I will be at work until /almost/ rollover, so won't have much time to think on things.

I have thoughts wrt NKA but I won't say them because if you read all my ramblings you'd reach the conclusion "ok so they just don't know" which is really my thoughts on it.

Note please that the SK kills are most likely the ravens, and most likely lolkills or w/e since both ravens died. Possibility that one of the kills was an Elim, but most likely both were made by the SK.

The fact that I can't really be around until next cycle is kinda awkward, since we're at 9 right now which could be 3/1/5 in which case unless there is a successful protect tonight on the SK kill/ the SK hits an Elim/the Elims hit the SK then today is E/Lo. not only that but the number of general Evils, regardless of if we /need/ to kill them or not, are scarily close to the number of Villagers.

In addition to that, on the conversation of the SK that happened a while ago- people advocating for the SK to be left alone are >rand!E. While we don't /need/ the SK gone to win, another killing role in here makes the game a lot harder for the Village to win. While seeking out the SK isn't a necessity nor a priority, it's not something we should be leaving alive if somehow "found"

 

[Kasimir he/him]

3 minutes ago, Ooklil the Wei said:

Ok honestly going to say that I have to do more tomorrow if possible since it's nearly time for me to sleep and I will be at wo-wait no i won't i open tomorrow....I will be at work until /almost/ rollover, so won't have much time to think on things.

I have thoughts wrt NKA but I won't say them because if you read all my ramblings you'd reach the conclusion "ok so they just don't know" which is really my thoughts on it.

Note please that the SK kills are most likely the ravens, and most likely lolkills or w/e since both ravens died. Possibility that one of the kills was an Elim, but most likely both were made by the SK.

The fact that I can't really be around until next cycle is kinda awkward, since we're at 9 right now which could be 3/1/5 in which case unless there is a successful protect tonight on the SK kill/ the SK hits an Elim/the Elims hit the SK then today is E/Lo. not only that but the number of general Evils, regardless of if we /need/ to kill them or not, are scarily close to the number of Villagers.

In addition to that, on the conversation of the SK that happened a while ago- people advocating for the SK to be left alone are >rand!E. While we don't /need/ the SK gone to win, another killing role in here makes the game a lot harder for the Village to win. While seeking out the SK isn't a necessity nor a priority, it's not something we should be leaving alive if somehow "found"

 

We're at 10 unless 10AM Kas can't count. But if I'm right then you got outcounted by a guy who hasn't yet slept which is concerning for me mostly 

[Amanuensis he/him]

JNV I guess. FeelsBadMan

[Illwei]

Just now, Kasimir said:

We're at 10 unless 10AM Kas can't count. But if I'm right then you got outcounted by a guy who hasn't yet slept which is concerning for me mostly 

Hi I'm Illwei I'm 21 and I can't count

[neil the beguiled]

i think the arguement for keeping sk around is that theyre going to be forced to kill an elim and townside as the numbers cinch. i agree that we shouldnt be looking to sheild them but at the currenty momentr, an SK's goal is to find an elim regardless so theyd be bledning in better withiun the towns regardless.  which is just to shrug and re-evalute my towns but im not entirely convinced that i should be... turning there just yet when i could instead look for evil as an overhead?

[Kasimir he/him]

2 minutes ago, Ooklil the Wei said:

Hi I'm Illwei I'm 21 and I can't count

Hi Miss I'm 21 and I can't count, how does it feel to PH into the SK game u explicitly wanted to avoid

[Amanuensis he/him]

Did Devo telegraph any suspicions beyond Cash last cycle? CBA ISOing from mobile myself. Just got home from a chaotic 10 hour work day and I'm so mentally checked out

[Kasimir he/him]

2 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

Did Devo telegraph any suspicions beyond Cash last cycle? CBA ISOing from mobile myself. Just got home from a chaotic 10 hour work day and I'm so mentally checked out

Depends on your definition. Explained vote on Aeo as disliking sheeping me on JNV, replied to you saying not that convinced of E!Araris. 

[Illwei]

2 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

Hi Miss I'm 21 and I can't count, how does it feel to PH into the SK game u explicitly wanted to avoid

If I'm completely honest I had not followed this game at all and was either hoping that I'd rep into an Elim slot, or that the SK would be dead if i simply did not open thread until I repped in : )

But alas I've been mafialess for far too long and i have too much free time and an apartment I'm trying to procrastinate cleaning and furnishing!!!!!

[Amanuensis he/him]

Allegedly Village:

1. Brandon: Lock Village but clearly not great at blocking kills
2. Kasimir: Very likely V, maybe SKas, but if E and misleading me I will cry

C2 Araris Voters:

1. Sad neil: Don’t know enough about him to confidently say V, but I think we can resolve him later if E
2. Covfefe: Very wishy-washy and a bit of a doomsayer. Both of those things are red flags to me but Kas says it’s within their V-meta so /shrug
3. Aeo: I seriously don’t believe she’s Village at this juncture but again deferring to Kas’ judgment here

 C1/C2 Non-Voters

1. Aloha/Illwei: filter dodged then pinchhit. Need to see more, definitely not the one putting in Kill orders if E
2. JNV: Active enough to put in kills
3. TKN: Active enough to put in kills
4. Ash: Active enough to put in kills

I really have no meaningful opinions for the Non-Voters beyond that due to their comparably minimal thread activity

@Ookla the Destined if we exe the SK today will their kill still go through?

ED1T:

Forgot Araris: nearly exed C2, would have been guaranteed if I didn’t switch over for a YOLO tie. Very odd a Cash voter got shot instead of an Araris voter if he’s Red as that either means he was bussed or his team was not present for EoD

ED2T: Quick someone post so I can announce who I’m protecting tonight

Edited December 17, 2023 by Amanuensis

[Illwei]

General thoughts(ish) so far:

AEORYI:
I do currently think that Aeo is village, but I'm currently judging Aeo on Illwei criteria, which may or may not be a problem. the general motivation though- constant posting, thoughts that feel real, and general excitement when they appear to go down a rabbit hole is all a good sign.
There are definitely things that make me waiver on this Aeo read, but I'm just going to stick to it for now and come back to that later if necessary

TKN/SILBER:
While I don't have a real read on either of them, I do think that they aren't aligned due to thread interactions. if one of them is an Elim, it's more likely to be Silber. Not because I specifically find him suspicious, but because TKN has been more villagery.

JNV:
Nothing incredibly conclusive here so skip if u want-
Honestly for a lot of players there's not a lot to go on right now. JNV fits into that group. His play though, however sparse, isn't really reminiscent to me of the E!JNV that I (was) familiar with.
In terms of standard boxes he fits the Elim one- Absent, Off topic/avoiding actual thoughts, Validating votes on himself, constantly hiding behind "catchup mode" 

AMAN:
Nothing of substance to say, but a potential Elim for reasoning I'm not going to state for how stupid it is.

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I don't have opinions on individual players besides that, and I don't want to reread 3 more times to try and try to form any at this moment in time.

Kills are all low impact, the question is if Elims already have control or if they're trying to avoid killing in "their" pool.
For example, Kas is a self-proclaimed control killer. the question is- if he's an elim, does he already see himself as having no opposition? is the potential opposition all Elims?

I honestly don't even know how to tier people at this point.

Araris/Kas/Aman
Ash/Neil
Aeoryi
TKN/JNV/Silber

Not a reads list, in order of my opinion of impact, no real things to go off for neil. It's giving low impact high poster. probably should be tiered with Aeoryi.

[Amanuensis he/him]

Okay so I’m still not going to self-protect. If the elims or the SK want to kill me, today is their last chance. Might protect Kas again today but seriously considering RNGing between Neil and the non-voters that we don’t end up exeing today. 

8 minutes ago, Ooklil the Wei said:

AMAN:
Nothing of substance to say, but a potential Elim for reasoning I'm not going to state for how stupid it is.

Is it that I’m still alive and haven’t exed an elim yet?

[neil the beguiled]

20 minutes ago, Ooklil the Wei said:

General thoughts(ish) so far:

AEORYI:
I do currently think that Aeo is village, but I'm currently judging Aeo on Illwei criteria, which may or may not be a problem. the general motivation though- constant posting, thoughts that feel real, and general excitement when they appear to go down a rabbit hole is all a good sign.
There are definitely things that make me waiver on this Aeo read, but I'm just going to stick to it for now and come back to that later if necessary

TKN/SILBER:
While I don't have a real read on either of them, I do think that they aren't aligned due to thread interactions. if one of them is an Elim, it's more likely to be Silber. Not because I specifically find him suspicious, but because TKN has been more villagery.

JNV:
Nothing incredibly conclusive here so skip if u want-
Honestly for a lot of players there's not a lot to go on right now. JNV fits into that group. His play though, however sparse, isn't really reminiscent to me of the E!JNV that I (was) familiar with.
In terms of standard boxes he fits the Elim one- Absent, Off topic/avoiding actual thoughts, Validating votes on himself, constantly hiding behind "catchup mode" 

AMAN:
Nothing of substance to say, but a potential Elim for reasoning I'm not going to state for how stupid it is.

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I don't have opinions on individual players besides that, and I don't want to reread 3 more times to try and try to form any at this moment in time.

Kills are all low impact, the question is if Elims already have control or if they're trying to avoid killing in "their" pool.
For example, Kas is a self-proclaimed control killer. the question is- if he's an elim, does he already see himself as having no opposition? is the potential opposition all Elims?

I honestly don't even know how to tier people at this point.

Araris/Kas/Aman
Ash/Neil
Aeoryi
TKN/JNV/Silber

Not a reads list, in order of my opinion of impact, no real things to go off for neil. It's giving low impact high poster. probably should be tiered with Aeoryi.

why are ash and i on the same tier? and over aeoryi too?

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nvm i cant read

Edited December 17, 2023 by neil the beguiled