The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, Kasimir said: TKN Is this the C3 prophecy, @The Known Novel? Ah soddit the heart wants what it wants. And right now...right now... It wants to... BURN THE SICK AND TWISTED IN HEAVEN'S PURIFYING FIRE! Reveal hidden contents Archer-da-fe time. I think so. This game has been a good game in general
Kasimir he/him Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 1 minute ago, The Last Fæ said: No, they just said they wanted to reach out, then nothing else, so... I don't know what happened, maybe they died just after the message. Mild here, but fair.
DeTess she/her Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Kasimir said: If you have Silver Dust, or extra Silver Dust, then why not have the SE protect the teammate you think most likely to get vigkilled and have the DK use Silver Dust? SE can protect against players or Shades - Silver Dust only does Shades. That would mean that the elims had at least two doses of silver dust, or Araris is an elim. Quote I just feel there's a lot of places this story doesn't make sense for me to be willing to buy it. Oh, yeah, for the record, with TKN's reveal I am now pretty certain that archer is evil, but I need to keep my crusade against alvron up for at least the first half of this day to properly express my indignation. Edited May 1, 2023 by DeTess
Tea Leaf Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 Just now, Kasimir said: ??? Yeah, I know this sounds crazy. And only further implicates me.
Kasimir he/him Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DeTess said: That would mean that the elims had two doses of silver dust, or Araris is an elim. That would be my read, yes. 7 minutes ago, The Last Fæ said: Yeah, I know this sounds crazy. And only further implicates me. Actually I think it's good - Tokomon reads are mild positive 7 minutes ago, DeTess said: Oh, yeah, for the record, with TKN's reveal I am now pretty certain that archer is evil, but I need to keep my crusade against alvron up for at least the first half of this day to properly express my indignation. It's fine, I just appreciate how you are the Be Reasonable thread person and I've given up doing hardcore analysis and have gone straight into Patamon Avenge mode Edited to add: 18 minutes ago, DeTess said: I can't really think of any reason why v!archer would be lying here. Don't understand this? Edited May 1, 2023 by Kasimir
Devotary of Spontaneity Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 15 minutes ago, DeTess said: where you told your rolebock of TJ failed? Yes, and that I can still take an action today, which confirms that TJ had a pallid mask. I can't be sure that he intended to pass it to Kas, but his reaction to losing it makes me lean closer to village on him. 7 minutes ago, Kasimir said: That would be my read, yes. Assuming TKN is telling the truth about Archer not taking an action, Archer's probably just a silver-boned rather than an SE. Do you think the elims started with more shade protection than silver dust and a silver boned?
Kasimir he/him Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said: Assuming TKN is telling the truth about Archer not taking an action, Archer's probably just a silver-boned rather than an SE. Do you think the elims started with more shade protection than silver dust and a silver boned? If he's a Silver-Boned, he should not have gone insane from surviving an attack. That should have triggered Broken Survivors.
Devotary of Spontaneity Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 So someone else is the elim shade expert.
Kasimir he/him Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said: So someone else is the elim shade expert. Yeah. But it can't be Araris I don't think. Edited to add: @The Known Novel - How much Glowpaste do you have left? Edited May 1, 2023 by Kasimir
Kasimir he/him Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said: So someone else is the elim shade expert. Comes down to about five or six different rule clarifications I've mailed in to Elan for theorising. Eiwlil probably tearing her hair out over mech but it's fine, I live for mech, I'll handle the mech and go a bit slower on the analysis since everyone else loves it and I probably have a PhD in mech now after having to figure out what happened N1. My health won't let me Vmax right now and if I don't want to be forced to sub out then I should probably learn how to triage what needs my attention and what doesn't. To the Writer who Connected Me With Devo: Sorry. Didn't want to keep on requesting, but this is pretty crucial. Could you set up a PM between me and DeTess please? There's some things that are probably better shared before I get to see tonight if I've inherited Gamma's crown as the Ironborn :eyes:
Mat he/him Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 All this mech catching feels too good to be true but I’ll take it lol Archer
Kasimir he/him Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: All this mech catching feels too good to be true but I’ll take it lol Archer You can do the analysis bro No one's stopping you, I'm absolutely down for it. Just...also really tapped out rn. But think you were pro-Archer train anyway right? Edited to add: Just to confirm. The current theory is that Alv's insanity is just Alv getting Horrored, yeah? Nothing to do with Spellbook shenanigans? Edited May 1, 2023 by Kasimir
Mat he/him Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kasimir said: You can do the analysis bro No one's stopping you, I'm absolutely down for it. Just...also really tapped out rn. But think you were pro-Archer train anyway right? Edited to add: Just to confirm. The current theory is that Alv's insanity is just Alv getting Horrored, yeah? Nothing to do with Spellbook shenanigans? Yeah. I mean it makes sense, but my brain didn’t not consider e!TKN I don’t think there’s any reason for e!TKN to out himself to kill Archer seeing as the elims are losing anyway though.
Kasimir he/him Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: Yeah. I mean it makes sense, but my brain didn’t not consider e!TKN I don’t think there’s any reason for e!TKN to out himself to kill Archer seeing as the elims are losing anyway though. Uh. No. They're not losing, I refuse, it's not over until it's over say no to Village complacency >:( I LIVED THROUGH TOO MANY REVERSAL GAMES BRO YOU CANNOT DO THIS TO ME. WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE. THE FORESTS WILL DEVOUR US ALL AND THEY WILL SACRIFICE US, WARMMHA HELP US LIGHT HELP US LIGHT SAVE OUR SOULS It doesn't feel worth it, yeah, given Archer has expended a protect anyway. But it does make me laugh a bit because it rhymes with I think Elan's MR in which I was Evil, TKN also action-scanned me C3, saw I didn't kill (think I used some other action - ah VS lens.) Edited to add: I know you self-pressed on Archer and I s2g I looked at the 'Elims are losing anyway' and asked, "Is this a perspective slip" >> Edited May 1, 2023 by Kasimir 1
The Paradoxical Phenomenon he/him Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 5 dollars a ticket? Get me on this train! Archer
Kasimir he/him Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) @Steeldancer Hi. You alive m8? I still think you're probably Village but we have a flipped Elim so zero excuse that there's nothing to work off. At least say something so the Elims are forced to kill vils rather than can free disappearances Edited to add: @Matrim's Dice - Imma laugh if your D1 "what about an Ash flashwagon :3" and wanting to do the flashwagon Elim exe thing that happened in LG84 would've actually found an Elim >> (Given the Ash/Archer team theories and the current E!Archer credences - multiple A team suggested by @|TJ| does look increasingly likely.) Edited May 1, 2023 by Kasimir
Mat he/him Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Kasimir said: @Matrim's Dice - Imma laugh if your D1 "what about an Ash flashwagon :3" and wanting to do the flashwagon Elim exe thing that happened in LG84 would've actually found an Elim >> (Given the Ash/Archer team theories and the current E!Archer credences - multiple A team suggested by @|TJ| does look increasingly likely.) I mean, if Archer really is e, then what happened/didn't happen D1 clearly isn't my fault :eyes:
Kasimir he/him Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: I mean, if Archer really is e, then what happened/didn't happen D1 clearly isn't my fault :eyes: I'm sorry for trying to kill you? D1 me: "Aman no WiM though I don't like this " Aman: -bro offensive- D1 me: "Aman is of the Light I will stake him out as bait for the fiends of darkness oh and I guess kill Mat too" D1 me: "Welp I guess no one evil was interested" Aman: "..........................." Elan: "That's because he's Evil damnit Kas also this was the worst idea." If it helps, my VitC actually cycled between you, me, and Archer >> More general side-request to all: Ok. Slight thing here. I'd like to ask for a Pallid Mask or another Elder Sign Pendant to be passed to me but only if you are willing. I absolutely recognise if you'd prefer to hang on to it. I mostly ask because if I make the wrong Lurch tonight, I'd prefer to have a second shot - dying taking down an Elim or at least burning their protection and potentially driving someone insane via Wrath sounds like a decent way to go to me, and I think it's a waste otherwise. Again, totally get it if you want to hang on to it, and no pressure. Thanks. There was a reason my preferred strategy was summoning the NK to me Edited to add: Since item passing is last on OoA, if for some reason I die tonight, you'll get your item back Edited May 1, 2023 by Kasimir
Archer he/him Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 2 hours ago, The Known Novel said: This... is a lie. Now, I don't really know what happened behind the scenes to get Archer insanity, since he didn’t take an action. I used glowpaste d2, and I received the result that he did not take an action. You smarter people can figure out how he got insanity, but all I know is that Archer did not take an action, and as such, he is lying, so he is an elim. Did anyone do some spellbook shenanigans on TKN? If not, this is a straight up lie. But I imagine when I flip he'll say it was misdirection and get away with having wasted a round. Y'all are really going to believe TKN over me? Might I remind you that they were lurking during rollovers, have broken from their usual voting patterns, and has been strongly meta aware. If I could vote for them, I would. I know it's hard to see from your end, but I really hope you go for them hard after I flip. Don't let them wriggle out of this.
The Paradoxical Phenomenon he/him Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 @writer can I get a PM with Kas?
Kasimir he/him Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Archer said: If I could vote for them, I would. I know it's hard to see from your end, but I really hope you go for them hard after I flip. Don't let them wriggle out of this. You claimed to have self-protected as a Shade Expert. This means you still have Silver Bones. You are suggesting that the Elims think it is a fundamentally great idea to get E!TKN to lie in order to get us to lynch you twice and kill you when you don't currently have very much Village cred, and don't even have your Shade Expert protect left any longer, in order to kill a role that is only a functional threat to them when the protect is still in existence. I'm not seeing the logic here. 1 minute ago, TheAlpha929 said: @writer can I get a PM with Kas? Mind if that comes after the PM with DeTess, Writer? The DeTess one is kind of critical right now.
Illwei Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 I just want to clarify some things because I'm a little confused right now. Correct me if these are wrong. Kas is claiming SE - He claims he was attacked this turn and did not go insane because of his silver bones. Archer is claiming SE - He claims that he self protected last night, Implying that he's worried he is going to be shot last night/executed today and therefore needs his silver bones to protect him from a potential execution. Sart was killed by shades since the counter is still at 0, meaning the elim kill was prevented again, theoretically on Kas. TKN is claiming that Archer is lying and they tracked him and found that he took no action last night Devo Claims to have RB'd TJ TJ claims to have tried to pass a Pallid mask to Kas, but instead ended up using it up with Devo's RB. Fae is claiming that Sart opened a PM with them, but Kas is also claiming multiple PMs and there is only the max of 4 PMs open right now. Detess theorized on a different scenario that would put at least one elim in Archer/Alv, but said it was only 5% likely? but wrath of shades was only at 5% so if Sart was killed by shades it was still a 5% chance. @DeTess?
Kasimir he/him Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Illwei said: Fae is claiming that Sart opened a PM with them, but Kas is also claiming multiple PMs and there is only the max of 4 PMs open right now. There are at least three Writers in existence. Depending on whether the one Writer I'm in a PM with is lying or not about certain things. They claimed to not have sent in a Night Message - and no yeah I was like "that's Evil af" but Night Messages are free actions so sending one in or not doesn't affect being able to say, kill. I'm not going to clarify how many I have but it's consistent with what I know that Fae had one. Edited to add: 5 minutes ago, Illwei said: Kas is claiming SE - He claims he was attacked this turn and did not go insane because of his silver bones. No. I was attacked N2. As this also implies, I didn't protect me N2 (having done that N1.) I protected someone else neither me nor Devo who I'm not naming because that's a guaranteed kill. Edited to add 2: When I say consistent, I mean nothing about this situation prevents Fae from having had one with Sart. Edited May 1, 2023 by Kasimir
Ashbringer he/him Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 Spoiler Devo also claims that her action failed but can still be used the next turn, which tracks with hitting a Mask instead of RBing an action or getting RBed herself. And Alv’s insane but probably just randomly. Archer, why should we trust you over TKN? I feel like this reaction is strange. Though… hmm.
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