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Posted
1 minute ago, Ashbringer said:

Okay PM Spiders what did you all get from the time these two bought us

Nothing new just Drake targeted TJ N5 which we already knew honestly my 'scans' so far havent really been helpful sadness

Posted
1 hour ago, DrakeMarshall said:

Splendid, thank you for the confirmation.

Edit: Apparently, asking this was not really necessary ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Edit:

greetings and hello yes it is I your favorite highly credible village coinshot here again to lay down some facts

after careful consideration and analysis of all of the evidence, I have come to the conclusion that JNV is totally villagery and the most suspicious person here by far is actually Amanuensis, so I will summarily be disregarding all advice and shooting Amenuensis tonight :ph34r: this may seem like a rather abrupt change to some of you, but I promise, this was a carefully thought out decision with a host of assuredly very legitimate reasons behind it, and you may absolutely rest peacefully in the knowledge that I always have and always will have all of the village's best interests at heart :D rest is in fact a very good word for what you will be doing

let it not be said that I don't call my shots :P

To quote this stealthy edit and clarify, via Wizard about 2 hours ago, I reached out to Drake to protect me by trolling him. Originally I was thinking of Trolling Mat or Lurching Ash, but I figured the elims would prioritize village protection over everything. Very happy it worked out. Living up to the Goalkeeper Legends :D 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Huh.

Was about to make a post about how JNV/Drake are obviously e/e but I suppose that explanation checks out as well :P 

JNV

Yeah, I almost posted something like that. I guess nothing has changed in regards to my take on Archer, so that’s probably where my vote will park today.

Posted
5 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

:D

sir that could have been a funny prank carefully crafted reaction test >>

and you call yourself a troll smh >>

oh well I'm mostly just glad you're alive <3

Posted
Just now, JNV said:

Nothing new just Drake targeted TJ N5 which we already knew honestly my 'scans' so far havent really been helpful sadness

Eyes Emoji (U+1F440)

This coming from the person who found out that Mat was village.

Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

sir that could have been a funny prank carefully crafted reaction test >>

and you call yourself a troll smh >>

oh well I'm mostly just glad you're alive <3

Sorry haha, got a bit too excited by our success :D

2 minutes ago, The Wandering Wizard said:

This coming from the person who found out that Mat was village.

"Allegedly" 

Edited by Amanuensis
Posted
14 minutes ago, Fifth Scholar said:

Day Seven has begun! It will end in 23.5 hours on Wednesday 15 February 2023 at 10:00 PM EDT.

 

Erm, shouldn't that be 47.5 hours? This is a day turn :P

Posted
2 minutes ago, The Wandering Wizard said:

This coming from the person who found out that Mat was village.

I mean yeah but the other two nights gave us info we already knew one for three isnt the best track record thats actually a failing grade

8 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

JNV

I get it if you want to kill me but I do think Archer as someone who apparently cant be murdered in the dead of night is a bit more pressing cause like Drake can kill me tonight sort of thing Drake cant stab Archer

Posted
Just now, JNV said:

I mean yeah but the other two nights gave us info we already knew one for three isnt the best track record thats actually a failing grade

9 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Yeah, mine haven't been helpful either >>

I do think it's a interesting scan but it hasn't been helping much except to clear people for what they have claimed.

Just now, Ashbringer said:

Wiz whatdya get

 

I targetted Araris, but learned that Bookwyrm targetted him N3. Which was the night bookwyrm scanned Araris  >>

So far I've learned what they used, who targeted who, who targeted them but no allignment scan, I think it's just a astronomically low chance to get a scan and JNV is either lying, less likely, or actually got a scan when so many nights weren't influencing our chances of getting a scan.

Posted
To JNV, or not to JNV, that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of Archer,
Or to take arms against a sea of quokkas
And by opposing end them. To tie—to vote,
No more; and by a vote to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flipless games are heir to: 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To tie, to vote;
To vote, perchance to meme—ay, there's the rub:
For in that sleep of death what memes may come,
When we have shuffled off this flimsy tinfoil,
Must give us pause—there's the respect
That makes calamity of so confusing a game.
For who would bear the whips and scorns of memes,
The bot's wrong, the false scanner's contumely,
The pangs of disprized gambits, the seeker's delay,
The insolence of trolls, and the turns
That patience merits of th'unworthy Drake,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare vote? Who would suspicion bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary PoE,
But that the dread of an elim hammer after death,
The undiscovere'd losecon, from whose bourn
No SE player returns, puzzles the will,
And makes us rather use those kills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus suspicion doth make tinfoilers of us all,
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And analyses of great pith and moment
With regard to the current turn go awry
And lose the game by distraction.
Posted
30 minutes ago, Ashbringer said:

Wiz whatdya get

Also @The last Fae in the Woods and @Archer

You really don't need to @ me, I swear I read the thread sometimes unprompted. Araris targeted TUN N1, apparently, which I read as the GMs are running low on content to share. :P.

I don't quite understand what happened, but good job! I'm slightly annoyed at Drake for doing exactly what I feared he'd do, which is change picks at the last second and face no questions for it, but in this case it seems acceptable. 

We're kind of at the point and shoot phase of the game, and I that I haven't been scanned. Look ahead at some sample kills:

Aman - NK N7

Drake - NK N8

Wiz - NK N9

Araris - parity

Bip - parity

Fae - exe D9

Ash - if Thug - CS N8

JNV - exe D8

Mat - if conf villager - CS N7

Archer -exe D7

I can't remember why but I had a good reason to think Araris was village. Since the village dead outnumber the elim teams' votes, we hammer e!Bip at parity. So unless Araris is evil, we win. Say people are confident in Araris and force his death, next likeliest option is probably Wiz is our parity representative. Wiz + Fae is an optional elim team composition, which is why I bumped Fae down to be exed D9 instead of Bip. That should ensure only one elim is left at the end of the game. 

But again, this requires none of the previous options to be evil, which I doubt. I'm feeling confident enough that I'm not going to dispute a rolexe. You're gonna have to clear me off the board eventually, there's better people to have hanging around at the endgame. 'Tis the fate of Smokers. 

Posted
13 minutes ago, Archer said:

I don't quite understand what happened, but good job! I'm slightly annoyed at Drake for doing exactly what I feared he'd do, which is change picks at the last second and face no questions for it, but in this case it seems acceptable.

Sorry 'bout that yes :P Aman/Wiz made a good pitch. I guess you could say I did end up following your advice and abstained from shooting anyone.

look im not actually that unpredictable i promise :ph34r:

Drake is insisting that he is a pacifist? somebody gets shot

Drake is loudly arguing that violence is justified? guess what's actually going to happen :ph34r:

Posted (edited)

Unless this is a genius play for trust, it does increase my faith in Wiz and Drake significantly—perhaps even Fae by extension.

Edited by Amanuensis
Posted (edited)

ALIGNMENTS:

Spoiler
  • Aman - Village - From Striker Lynchbait Scan, Sart N1 Scan*
  • Striker - Village - From Bookwyrm N1 Scan
  • Wizard - Village - From Fae 'SE Buddy' role
  • Orlok - Village - From Bookwyrm N2 Scan, backed up by Araris antitroll.
  • Mat - Village - From UPS Scan
  • Araris - Village - From Bookwyrm N3 Scan, Sart N2 Scan*
  • Biplet Elim - From Sart N3 Scan*
  • Steel - Elim - From RandBy N4 Scan
  • Tani - Elim - Claimed
  • Shining - Okay fine claim redacted
  • 2 Elims in pool of Mat/Drake/Ash/Shining/TJ/Archer/Steel/TKN - from Orlok Tie Guy
  • 2 Elims in pool of Mat/Drake/Ash/Shining/Biplet/Wizard/Amanuensis/Orlok - from Steel Tie Guy*

* Sart and Steel are relatively likely Elims.

ROLES:

Spoiler
  • Ashbringer - Thread Master (Immune to Execution), Veteran (Removes one vote from self) 
    • (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Proven)
  • Wizard PM Spider (Creates a 1-on-1 PM on Odd Nights and learns a fact about a target on Even Nights (incorrect fact if Trolled) ) 
    • (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Unknown)
  • Steeldancer - Pinch Hitter (Copy the Role of a Removed/DDoSed player (does something interesting if Trolled) ) 
    • (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Unknown)
  • Fadran - Troll (may Troll players, gives a random player Troll Immunity next cycle if Trolled), Confirmed Villager (Always scans as Village) (Seems concerned about someone who's trying to incite a civil war, thus providing the necessary blood sacrifice to complete the nationwide transmutation circle in order to create a sufficiently powerful philosopher's stone and attain God)
    • (Status - Role 1 Proven via Troll Immunity generation, Role 2 Unproven)
  • Striker - Lynchbait (Will place an Extra Vote on a random player who both had a vote on the Lynchbait at the 24 hour mark of the previous Day turn and is of the same alignment), Stab Voter (If your first vote is placed in the first 24 hours of a Day turn and does not change, it counts as double)
    • (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Unproven, Dead)
  • xino - Multiquoter (Learn target's target (learn who targeted the target if Trolled) )
    • (Status - Role 1 Unproven, Role 2 Unknown)
  • JNV UPS Driver / PM Spider (Creates a 1-on-1 PM on Odd Nights and learns a fact about a target on Even Nights (incorrect fact if Trolled) ) 
    • (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Unknown)
  • Matrim's Dice - Tunnel Constructor (Force execution to either kill you or a target player, if triggered before Rollovet) 
    • (Status - Role 1 Unproven, Role 2 Unknown)
  • Biplet Meme Maker (Can see if a target gets Trolled (false info if Trolled) ) 
    • (Status - Role 1 Proven as Bip knew the role name, Role 2 Unknown)
  • Araris Meme Maker (Can see if a target gets Trolled (false info if Trolled) ), Porch-Sitter (Added vote to self, more powerful other effect) 
    • (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Proven but to unknown effect)
  • Devotary - RPer (May copy one of target player's roles to use the next turn (temporarily grants the RPer role to the Troll (or the target?) if Trolled) )
    • (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Unknown)
  • Amanuensis Goalkeeper (Protect target other player (turned to a Kill if Trolled) ), Troll (may Troll players, gives a random player Troll Immunity next cycle if Trolled... I think) 
    • (Status - Role 1 Proven via initial claims, Role 2 Proven via initial claims)
  • TKN - Goalkeeper (Protect target other player (turned to a Kill if Trolled) )
  • The Bookwyrm - Analyst (Alignment Scan someone you voted for or who voted on you last turn (incorrect alignment if Trolled)
    • (Status - Role 1 Proven via RandBy, Role 2 Unknown)
  • Tani - RPer (May copy one of target player's roles to use the next turn (temporarily grants the RPer role to the Troll (or the target?) if Trolled) )
    • (Status - Role 1 Unproven, Role 2 Unknown)
  • Archer PM Spider (Creates a 1-on-1 PM on Odd Nights and learns a fact about a target on Even Nights (incorrect fact if Trolled) ), Rules Ignorer (Ignores most Night Actions) 
    • (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Unproven even if it would explain a good amount)
  • Walin - Troll (may Troll players, gives a random player Troll Immunity next cycle if Trolled... I think)
    • (Status - Role 1 Proven via Troll Immunity, Role 2 Unknown)
  • TJ - Wallposter (Roleblock target player (Makes target immune to non-Troll Disruption if Trolled) ), Veteran (Removes one vote from self)
    • (Status - Role 1 PseudoProven, Role 2 PseudoProven but can confirm via a vote)
  • Dannnnnex - Tie Guy (Learn alignments of players involved in a tie (need specifics, ??? If Trolled)
    • (Status - Role 1 Proven via Orlok and Steel, Role 2 Unknown)
  • _Stick_/DrakeTerminal Seeker (NK a target (protects the target if Trolled) ) 
    • (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Unknown)
  • Orlok - Pinch Hitter (Copy the Role of a Removed/DDoSed player (does something interesting if Trolled) ) 
    • (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Unknown)
  • RandBy - RPer (May copy one of target player's roles to use the next turn (temporarily grants the RPer role to the Troll (or the target?) if Trolled) ), Tunnel Constructor (Force execution to either kill you or a target player, if triggered before Rollovet) 
    • (Status - Role 1 Proven via initial claim, Role 2 Unproven)
  • Sart - Analyst (Alignment Scan someone you voted for or who voted on you last turn (incorrect alignment if Trolled)
  • Shining - Discussion Leader (Move a vote) 
    • (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Unknown)
  • Fae PM Spider (Creates a 1-on-1 PM on Odd Nights and learns a fact about a target on Even Nights (incorrect fact if Trolled) ), SE Buddy (Automatically know one Villager is Village at game start) 
    • (Status - Role 1 Proven, Role 2 Unproven)

We're missing an Elim Roleblocker.

VOTE COUNTS:

Spoiler

D1:

Quote

StrikerEZ (6): Araris Valerian, Ashbringer, Devotary of Spontaneity, Shining Silhouette, Stick, The Bookwyrm
The Bookwyrm (3): StrikerEZ, The Wandering Wizard, xinoehp512
Walin (3): Channelknight Fadran, Matrim's Dice, Archer
Amanuensis (2): 
Sart, Steeldancer
Shining Silhouette (2): Amanuensis, TJ
Channelknight Fadran (1): The Known Novel
Stick (1): Orlok Tsubodai
The Wandering Wizard (1): Tani

D2:

Quote

Danex (6): Amanuensis, Ashbringer, Matrim's Dice, Stick, The Wandering Wizard, xinoehp512
Araris Valerian (2): Sart
Ashbringer (0): Shining Silhouette
JNV (1): TJ
Matrim's Dice (1): Danex
Orlok Tsubodai (1): The Bookwyrm
Aman (1):
Stick (1): Araris Valerian
Walin (1): Archer

D3:

Quote
Steeldancer (4): Archer, Ashbringer, DrakeMarshall, The Known Novel
Walin (4): Matrim's Dice, Shining Silhouette, Steeldancer, TJ
Biplet (2): Sart, The Wandering Wizard
Araris Valerian (2): The Bookwyrm
Sart (1): Araris Valerian

... why is there bold for D3? Idk. It's gone now.

 

D4:

Quote

Ashbringer (3): Ashbringer, Biplet, Matrim's Dice, The Wandering Wizard, Orlok Tsubodai
Biplet (3): Amanuensis, DrakeMarshall, Shining Silhouette
Steeldancer (1): Random Bystander
Sart (1):

D5:

Quote

Steeldancer (7): Archer, Channelknight Fadran, JNV, Matrim's Dice, Orlok Tsubodai, The last Fae in the Woods, The Wandering Wizard
Sart (4): Amanuensis, Ashbringer, DrakeMarshall, TJ
Channelknight Fadran (3): Araris Valerian, Biplet, Steeldancer
Biplet (1): Sart

D6:

Quote

Channelknight Fadran (5): Archer, Ashbringer, Biplet, Matrim's Dice, The Wandering Wizard
Archer (4): Amanuensis, Araris Valerian, DrakeMarshall, JNV

 

VOTE COUNTS WITH MORE COLORS:

 
Quote

D1:

Quote

StrikerEZ (6): Araris Valerian, Ashbringer, Devotary of Spontaneity, Shining Silhouette, Stick, The Bookwyrm
The Bookwyrm (3): StrikerEZ, The Wandering Wizard, xinoehp512
Walin (3): Channelknight Fadran, Matrim's Dice, Archer
Amanuensis (2): Sart, Steeldancer
Shining Silhouette (2): Amanuensis, TJ
Channelknight Fadran (1): The Known Novel
Stick (1): Orlok Tsubodai
The Wandering Wizard (1): Tani

D2:

Quote

Danex (6): Amanuensis, Ashbringer, Matrim's Dice, Stick, The Wandering Wizard, xinoehp512
Araris Valerian (2): Sart
Ashbringer (0): Shining Silhouette
JNV (1): TJ
Matrim's Dice (1): Danex
Orlok Tsubodai (1): The Bookwyrm
Amanuensis (1):
Stick (1): Araris Valerian
Walin (1): Archer

D3:

Quote
Steeldancer (4): Archer, Ashbringer, DrakeMarshall, The Known Novel
Walin (4): Matrim's Dice, Shining Silhouette, Steeldancer, TJ
Biplet (2): Sart, The Wandering Wizard
Araris Valerian (2): The Bookwyrm
Sart (1): Araris Valerian

... why is there bold for D3? Idk. It's gone now.

D4:

Quote

Ashbringer (3): Ashbringer, Biplet, Matrim's Dice, The Wandering Wizard, Orlok Tsubodai
Biplet (3): Amanuensis, DrakeMarshall, Shining Silhouette
Steeldancer (1): Random Bystander
Sart (1):

D5:

Quote

Steeldancer (7): Archer, Channelknight Fadran, JNV, Matrim's Dice, Orlok Tsubodai, The last Fae in the Woods, The Wandering Wizard
Sart (4): Amanuensis, Ashbringer, DrakeMarshall, TJ
Channelknight Fadran (3): Araris Valerian, Biplet, Steeldancer
Biplet (1): Sart

D6:

Quote

Channelknight Fadran (5): Archer, Ashbringer, Biplet, Matrim's Dice, The Wandering Wizard
Archer (4): Amanuensis, Araris Valerian, DrakeMarshall, JNV

 

Aman and I are almost entirely clear (maybe not me to others, but E!Threadmaster!Ash would autowin if an NK went through on Drake last turn and I still killed Sart for not much Elim value, and it's helpful PoE wise for me to be here rn), Wiz and Drake are mostly clear. Araris is somewhat clear but a few things make me too nervous to make it blue, Mat gets a bit ahead from the JNV scan, then JNV/Biplet/Archer/Fae are in the not-clear PoE group.

Also, because it's not other places - if E!Araris has his own role, there's a 50% chance it's not Porch Sitter but Bus Driver :P 

Interesting vote count things:

  • V!Mat and V!xino would mean Dannex's exe was likely all Village
  • V!TJ would mean Sart's D5 voters were likely all Village
    • Bip and Araris voted together with Steel on Fadran D5 as well
  • Again Sart voted to save Bip on D4 when he claimed he'd scanned her Elim N3
  • Every PM Spider voted Steel D5
  • Sart and Steel voted together D1 on... Aman!
  • Tallybot might hate this post again

 

I'd be fine exeing any of JNV, Biplet, Archer, or Fae here, and could probably get argued over to Mat or Araris. Araris specifically because I'm curious what the special Porch Sitter can do and why he's held onto it for so long, a few voting things, and he makes exelo a bit more dangerous if Village.

... yes, I'm willing to go for up to 6 people. PoE can go by fast.

... and yes my vote's still on Drake because my heart hasn't recovered from the "yeah I'm shooting Aman" bamboozle

Edited by Ashbringer
okay there's things in the last spoiler tag that I can't get out of the spoiler tag so welp
Posted (edited)

Tbh I think we need to exe Archer and Araris sooner rather than later. Even though I often like the cut of both their gibs, their roles kind of encourage us to vote them. I’m curious to see why.

Edited by Amanuensis
Posted

huh, it's odd that Araris votes on side trains in some of the cycles before I got here

I feel like I have a vaguely village read of Araris' posts, but overall Araris hasn't really voted in a way that shouts village.

You could also say Matrim's D3 is potentially incriminating, although that was when we were building a tie, which sort of throws off that particular vote analysis somewhat.

 

The regular disclaimers about automated tallies apply, but, here is what tally bot says the vote tally is:

Vote Tally
Archer (4): Amanuensis, Araris Valerian, DrakeMarshall, JNV
DrakeMarshall (1): Ashbringer
JNV (1): Matrim's Dice

Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, DrakeMarshall said:

huh, it's odd that Araris votes on side trains in some of the cycles before I got here

I feel like I have a vaguely village read of Araris' posts, but overall Araris hasn't really voted in a way that shouts village.

I’m pretty sure I’m not the only person that was a little overwhelmed in the first few cycles of this game. Not to mention that I tend to do better analysis once numbers have been whittled down.

If I’m in the books to be exed, recall that my alignment is tied to Orlok’s which is now tied to Steel’s, and if Steel is village that has implications for other things via Tie Guy. Not sure anyone wants to open that can of worms. On the other hand, me being alive at parity is not necessarily a good thing.

Edit: I appear to have quoted the wrong part of Drake’s post.

Edited by Araris Valerian
Posted
18 minutes ago, Random Bystander said:

I'm just watching this go down at this point (due to the fact that I am both dead and useless), and it is extremely entertaining.

Reads are useful. Who do you think is evil?

Posted
3 hours ago, Araris Valerian said:

I’m pretty sure I’m not the only person that was a little overwhelmed in the first few cycles of this game. Not to mention that I tend to do better analysis once numbers have been whittled down.

If I’m in the books to be exed, recall that my alignment is tied to Orlok’s which is now tied to Steel’s, and if Steel is village that has implications for other things via Tie Guy. Not sure anyone wants to open that can of worms. On the other hand, me being alive at parity is not necessarily a good thing.

Edit: I appear to have quoted the wrong part of Drake’s post.

Better analysis happens later, sure, but my experience is that village!Araris can be a bit more bloodthirsty :P

How is your alignment tied to Orlok’s?

1 hour ago, Random Bystander said:

I'm just watching this go down at this point (due to the fact that I am both dead and useless), and it is extremely entertaining.

hail bystander, those who are about to die salute you

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