Quivil Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) Why are all yous talking so much!!! Waking up to five pages and checking back in to find fifteen more pages is intimidating. Also, sorry, I'm still alive. I wonder what happens if a dead person gets trolled... Edit: That cat video... watching it was a mistake. *shivers* Edited January 30, 2023 by Tani
|TJ| he/him Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Orlok Tsubodai said: Why did Tani die? As far as I can tell, they made one post last cycle, asking where their PM from Archer was. I can’t see them being the target of a village vig kill, and I can’t see them having been lurched (with the lurch trolled), so strongly suspect they were the target of a benevolent elim team. hum. are you thinking that the baddies have a lurcher adjacent (goalkeeper?) and a troll? and they improvise-adapt-overcame to mix the two roles to create a shooter? you think both kills are from the baddies? edit: @Kasimir, can players use 2 actions at night? as any possible case of it? and can a troll troll themselves? Edited January 30, 2023 by |TJ|
Tea Leaf Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Amanuensis said: Yeah. Wiz confirmed he was a PM Spider by opening one with me. I think I am one too, I guess that sounds suspicious. I forgot to PM though.
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, The last Fae in the Woods said: I think I am one too, I guess that sounds suspicious. I forgot to PM though. What happens if you are trolled on a non PM night?
Tea Leaf Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, The Wandering Wizard said: What happens if you are trolled on a non PM night? Something... I forgot.
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, The last Fae in the Woods said: Something... I forgot. You aren't quite convincing me that you have the PM Spider role You can always look back into you GM PM to find it, BUT DON'T quote your GM PM in here. Just paraphrase what it does.
Orlok Tsubodai Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, |TJ| said: hum. are you thinking that the baddies have a lurcher adjacent (goalkeeper?) and a troll? and they improvise-adapt-overcame to mix the two roles to create a shooter? you think both kills are from the baddies? edit: @Kasimir, can players use 2 actions at night? as any possible case of it? and can a troll troll themselves? Not quite. I was noting that current speculation is that a kill could come from being lurched, with the lurcher trolled, but suggesting I don’t think it likely that Tani was lurched in any case. I wasn’t really making a comment either way on elim team composition. On reflection, a second kill requiring two members’ actions isn’t totally implausible, particularly given the village retain analysis from their targets, but it wasn’t the suggestion I had made. I did wonder whether Matrim knew he was being trolled, and used the same effect to be a one-off coinshot, as part of my question.
Tea Leaf Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, The Wandering Wizard said: You aren't quite convincing me that you have the PM Spider role You can always look back into you GM PM to find it, BUT DON'T quote your GM PM in here. Just paraphrase what it does. I can on some nights (even) receive a fact about a player, if trolled it is misinformation. I can on some nights (odd) create a PM, if trolled I can't start another PM for the next cycle.
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, The last Fae in the Woods said: I can on some nights (even) receive a fact about a player, if trolled it is misinformation. I can on some nights (odd) create a PM, if trolled I can't start another PM for the next cycle. ...you didn't have to say everything it does. Can confirm that Fae is infact a PM Spider. And yeah...we have a pseudo scan. 1
Tea Leaf Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, The Wandering Wizard said: ...you didn't have to say everything it does. Can confirm that Fae is infact a PM Spider. And yeah...we have a pseudo scan. I can confirm that you are a SE Player. Having started knowing your alignment.
Archer he/him Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Orlok Tsubodai said: Because if parity matters, all killing a village inactive does is bring the eliminators closer to parity. There is no world in which a living but largely inactive village Tani is less useful than a dead Tani. This obviously doesn’t hold if Tani is an inactive eliminator, but a coinshot wouldn’t have been able to make a sensible alignment determination from Tani’s single post. I can see the elims wanting to avoid creating a confirmed good (because they were NKed) nemesis out of someone more talkative, if they knew that no one was going to be silenced this game. 38 minutes ago, Tani said: Edit: That cat video... watching it was a mistake. Fairly sure it was a squirrel, but good guess. Do you have any indication why you died? I was thinking about Striker's death last night and I want to dig deeper into that. If e!Striker had an elim vote for them, they'd want to clear the person by better explaining their intentional suspicion drawing and by ending the bit earlier in the round. Remember that Striker didn't know they'd be around to explain all this later. Or they could say nothing because it's bad to be tied to someone we exed out of suspicion, which I'd argue they didn't do by providing some hints at their role. If e!Striker only had villagers vote for them, they say nothing at all because nothing will happen - but we expect an impossible to fake vote today. So based on the execution of the strat, I lean towards v!Striker. Do we know if Lynchbait works every round or just once? Quote Striker (6): Araris Valerian, Ashbringer, Devotary, Shining Silhouette, Stick, The Bookwyrm The Bookwyrm (3): Striker, The Wandering Wizard, xinoehp512 Walin (3): Channelknight Fadran, Matrim's Dice, Archer Amanuensis (2): Sart, Steeldancer Shining Silhouette (2): Amanuensis, TJ Channelknight Fadran (1): The Known Novel Stick (1): Orlok Tsubodai The Wandering Wizard (1): Tani Assume v!Striker for a moment. And v!dead people. It's interesting that it became a runaway in the end. I'm surprised about Orlok's vote here being a vanity, and that TUN voted at all. The two voters on Striker I'm most suspicious of are Bookwyrm and Shining - the others are village methinks based on my reads. But that's a mostly village generated wagon saving e!Bookwyrm if it's the case, but I need to recheck how EOD played out. Aman Shining
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, The last Fae in the Woods said: I can confirm that you are a SE Player. Having started knowing your alignment. ......you don't know my allignment. I don't know yours nor did I start knowing any players allignment. Fae
Tea Leaf Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, The Wandering Wizard said: ......you don't know my allignment. I don't know yours nor did I start knowing any players allignment. Fae SE Buddy
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, The last Fae in the Woods said: SE Buddy I am a PM Spider not a SE Buddy. What are you doing? ... ... ... Do you have a second role?
Tea Leaf Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, The Wandering Wizard said: Do you have a second role? Wait, do most people not have multiple roles?
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, The last Fae in the Woods said: Wait, do most people not have multiple roles? I only have one role.
Stick. she/her Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) What we know about Trolling (a lot of this is just Word of Aman): Reverses the target's action A Troll getting Trolled while using the Troll action gives a random player Troll immunity for the next cycle Multiple Trolls targeting the same player results in the player getting Trolled regardless (I asked the GMs a similar question and they just told me the target gets Trolled extra hard) 1 hour ago, Random Bystander said: As a roleplayer, I can target someone, and temporarily gain their abilities. What abilities did you gain exactly? Does it all line up with the above? 1 hour ago, Tani said: Why are all yous talking so much!!! Waking up to five pages and checking back in to find fifteen more pages is intimidating. Also, sorry, I'm still alive. I wonder what happens if a dead person gets trolled... Edit: That cat video... watching it was a mistake. *shivers* Did you have a role? If yes, we'll benefit from you sharing the details cuz the role itself is presumably not usable anymore. 9 minutes ago, The last Fae in the Woods said: I can confirm that you are a SE Player. Having started knowing your alignment. Okay yeah your assertions regarding Wiz from last cycle make a lot of sense now It sounds like SE Buddy is Fae's second role? Edit: @The Wandering Wizard but didn't you just say you have a pseudo scan? Edited January 30, 2023 by _Stick_
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, _Stick_ said: It sounds like SE Buddy is Fae's second role? Yeah, that's what it sounds like. I am so confused right now. Though it would make sense, and Aman is also claiming two roles. So Fae I guess? Idk what to make of it right now. ED1T: 5 minutes ago, _Stick_ said: @The Wandering Wizard but didn't you just say you have a pseudo scan? @_Stick_ Yes, it works like a Pseudo scan. We get one random fact about a player on even nights when we target them. I asked a bit of questions about how many PMs I could make and was told only the one. And I was also told that if I thought about my even night action it would make more sense why I can only make a single one on one PM every odd night. Edited January 30, 2023 by The Wandering Wizard
Stick. she/her Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, The Wandering Wizard said: Yeah, that's what it sounds like. I am so confused right now. Though it would make sense, and Aman is also claiming two roles. So Fae I guess? Idk what to make of it right now. Did you not start with a fact about a player like they did? I'm confused because if the 'even' part of their role is just a whole other role then how come yours falls under the same PM Spider ability? Edit: Just saw your edit. I'm still a little confused xD Edited January 30, 2023 by _Stick_
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, _Stick_ said: Did you not start with a fact about a player like they did? I'm confused because if the 'even' part of their role is just a whole other role then how come yours falls under the same PM Spider ability? No I didn't I think that would come from the SE Buddy role that they are claiming. My PM Spider is exactly the same but I am only a PM Spider.
Tea Leaf Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, The Wandering Wizard said: No I didn't I think that would come from the SE Buddy role that they are claiming. Yeah SE buddy tells me the starting alignment of someone. That's it
Archer he/him Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) May I direct you to this hot take from D1: On 27/01/2023 at 2:52 PM, The last Fae in the Woods said: Me and Wiz are innocent, I don't trust Bookwyrm but I might as well hope he is good and I won't die. I'm confused why Fae forgot to PM the person they knew could be trusted but this kind of confident analysis fits with their claim. 3 minutes ago, _Stick_ said: Did you not start with a fact about a player like they did? I'm confused because if the 'even' part of their role is just a whole other role then how come yours falls under the same PM Spider ability? Maybe it's just you get a random fact and Fae got lucky? Or maybe this is in lieu of scans. Edit: option B is they're an elim with TMI but like. Why do this Edited January 30, 2023 by Archer
Stick. she/her Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, The Wandering Wizard said: No I didn't I think that would come from the SE Buddy role that they are claiming. My PM Spider is exactly the same but I am only a PM Spider. Alright yes I understand now. You're Fae's SE Buddy, and I'm guessing this was a one-off thing.
Tea Leaf Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, _Stick_ said: Alright yes I understand now. You're Fae's SE Buddy, and I'm guessing this was a one-off thing. Yeah.
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, _Stick_ said: Just saw your edit. I'm still a little confused xD So if I scanned you I could learn a single fact about you, whether it would be your role, your allignment or what ever Kas deems fit to throw at me. It is any GM fact that the GM knows, though I think it works mostly like a scan, but perhaps I scan you once get your role. A second time and get your allignment? Or it could just be completely random. I don't know what he's going to throw at me. Been PAFO'd on that one. 2 minutes ago, The last Fae in the Woods said: Yeah SE buddy tells me the starting alignment of someone. That's it Alright, welcome to my single most trusted person slot. 1
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