Frustration Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 Well, we now only have fifteen confirmed Shards Ruin Preservation Autonomy Ambition Devotion Domonion Honor Cultivation Odium Endowment Valor Invention Whimsy Mercy Virtuosity Meaning we only have one left. And as we only have one week before we get another set of Sample chapters this may be the last time we get to theorise on new shards. So have at it, what do you think the final Shard is? 4
masaru Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 The last one would be the "Wisdom/Prudence" one mentioned in WOBs. 4
IndigoAjah he/him Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 Prudence I think, we know it's teh Survival Shard (Virtuosity doesn't seem to fit)
PurpurPhönix he/him Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 The name hasn't been confirmed, only that the name is similar to Wisdom/Prudence. I also don't think it's confirmed that that shard is the survival shard, although it would make sense
IndigoAjah he/him Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, PurpurPhönix said: The name hasn't been confirmed, only that the name is similar to Wisdom/Prudence. I also don't think it's confirmed that that shard is the survival shard, although it would make sense I say we know because the Survival Shard doesn't fit any of the others
Frustration Posted March 17, 2022 Author Posted March 17, 2022 I'm pretty sure I'm required to say Frustration. However I also feel something like Jelousy or Testing is on the table. 5 minutes ago, IndigoAjah said: Prudence I think, we know it's teh Survival Shard (Virtuosity doesn't seem to fit) 1 minute ago, IndigoAjah said: I say we know because the Survival Shard doesn't fit any of the others The survival shard is probably Invention because Harmony couldn't find them after first contact, and that the Wisdom type shard has decided that survival isn't the most important thing. Spoiler Paleo (paraphrased) Is Wisdom a Shard? If so, how bad does it want to survive? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) There is a Shard with a similar intent. The Shard has realized that survival might not be the most desirable/important. Footnote: Paleo later asked Brandon for clarification on this one because he couldn't quite remember the survival part when he wrote it down. Brandon stressed again what the Shard has realized. Stuttgart signing (May 17, 2019)
Lego Mistborn he/him Posted March 18, 2022 Posted March 18, 2022 Isolation or Aloofness, we need another "evil" shard, and both fit the survival idea. 1
iceblade44 he/him Posted March 18, 2022 Posted March 18, 2022 4 hours ago, Frustration said: I'm pretty sure I'm required to say Frustration. However I also feel something like Jelousy or Testing is on the table. The survival shard is probably Invention because Harmony couldn't find them after first contact, and that the Wisdom type shard has decided that survival isn't the most important thing. Hide contents Paleo (paraphrased) Is Wisdom a Shard? If so, how bad does it want to survive? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) There is a Shard with a similar intent. The Shard has realized that survival might not be the most desirable/important. Footnote: Paleo later asked Brandon for clarification on this one because he couldn't quite remember the survival part when he wrote it down. Brandon stressed again what the Shard has realized. Stuttgart signing (May 17, 2019) Yes, people need to remember all are info about wisdom and survival was before the RoW shard dump. There is no reason it can't apply to one of those revealed
teknopathetic he/him Posted March 18, 2022 Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, masaru said: The last one would be the "Wisdom/Prudence" one mentioned in WOBs. Brandon has also mentioned a Misery/Anguish/Sadness shard as being possibly real as well. It is possible Wisdom turned into Virtuosity and/or Invention. June 2020 Edited March 18, 2022 by teknopathetic
Frustration Posted March 18, 2022 Author Posted March 18, 2022 I'm thinking something along the lines of tolerance, or maybe temperance.
Kandrafish Posted March 18, 2022 Posted March 18, 2022 I agree with the Prudence/ Wisdom argument on a basis of my finding opposite shards plan and the fact that Prudence makes an ideal AntiValor. Also, because nobody asked... Here is my obliterated mind-map (supposing the creation of this new Shard, Virtuosity, becomes canon). Ultimately, my logic is based on my belief that Shards need an opposite, which I know is not something everyone agrees with, but I think that we need an anti-valor-y shard still and the others pair better together than with Valor.
bmcclure7 Posted March 18, 2022 Posted March 18, 2022 14 hours ago, Frustration said: I'm pretty sure I'm required to say Frustration. However I also feel something like Jelousy or Testing is on the table. The survival shard is probably Invention because Harmony couldn't find them after first contact, and that the Wisdom type shard has decided that survival isn't the most important thing. Hide contents Paleo (paraphrased) Is Wisdom a Shard? If so, how bad does it want to survive? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) There is a Shard with a similar intent. The Shard has realized that survival might not be the most desirable/important. Footnote: Paleo later asked Brandon for clarification on this one because he couldn't quite remember the survival part when he wrote it down. Brandon stressed again what the Shard has realized. Stuttgart signing (May 17, 2019) Sound like a shard considering splintering itself. 2
KaladinWorldsinger Posted March 18, 2022 Posted March 18, 2022 Going to be a little cynical and say it's completely impossible to guess the next one. There is absolutely no pattern(that I can discern) here for us to divine knowledge. Some of the shards I still can't wrap my head around, like valor. I don't get valor. Virtuousity is something maybe I can understand, but never, never, never could have guessed. Just want to know how Brandon makes sense of all the 16 parts
bmcclure7 Posted March 18, 2022 Posted March 18, 2022 Slightly off topic but thinking of the shards Invention Whimsy Virtuosity. How much do you want to bet there's a dawn shard of creation.
Frustration Posted March 18, 2022 Author Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, bmcclure7 said: Slightly off topic but thinking of the shards Invention Whimsy Virtuosity. How much do you want to bet there's a dawn shard of creation. I wouldn't be surprised. I'm thinking maybe Fairness, or perhapse Judgement. Appraisal souds good, and I think it complimaents Virtuosity pretty well. You know what Appraisal is my new top pick. Edited March 18, 2022 by Frustration
AerionBFII he/him Posted March 18, 2022 Posted March 18, 2022 I’m leaning towards wisdom/prudence as a lot of other people have stated there was a WOB on it. Reservation would be cool also 1
teknopathetic he/him Posted March 18, 2022 Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Kandrafish said: I agree with the Prudence/ Wisdom argument on a basis of my finding opposite shards plan and the fact that Prudence makes an ideal AntiValor. Also, because nobody asked... Here is my obliterated mind-map (supposing the creation of this new Shard, Virtuosity, becomes canon). Ultimately, my logic is based on my belief that Shards need an opposite, which I know is not something everyone agrees with, but I think that we need an anti-valor-y shard still and the others pair better together than with Valor. interesting. However, in my opinion the opposite of Ambition should be Whimsy. Then Cutlivation and Endownment are somewhat opposites as well (growing vs giving). Edited March 18, 2022 by teknopathetic
masaru Posted March 18, 2022 Posted March 18, 2022 Thoughts on the actual name for Wisdom/Prudence/Survival? I've been thinking something along the lines of Vigilance, Care, Discretion. The concept seems to be "being conservative or cautious."
Frustration Posted March 18, 2022 Author Posted March 18, 2022 Just now, masaru said: Thoughts on the actual name for Wisdom/Prudence/Survival? I've been thinking something along the lines of Vigilance, Care, Discretion. The concept seems to be "being conservative or cautious." The Wisdom shard and the survival shard are two different shards. survival is barely related to that shard's intent. And there have been 5 shards revealed since we learned about those two.
bacontime Posted March 18, 2022 Posted March 18, 2022 20 hours ago, Ta'veren Kaladin said: Isolation or Aloofness, we need another "evil" shard, and both fit the survival idea. My personal guess is that the final shard is something like Mystery or Transcendence. The shards of Adonalsium are fragments of the divine, and the ineffability of God is an important part of many people's faith. A Shard of Mystery seems like a good fit. It also has that dual personality trait/cosmic force kinda vibe that a lot of the shards have. 2
mathiau he/him Posted March 18, 2022 Posted March 18, 2022 There's always a chance Ingenuity is still a Shard, even if it's unlikely considering both Invention and Whimsy already exists 9 hours ago, bmcclure7 said: Slightly off topic but thinking of the shards Invention Whimsy Virtuosity. How much do you want to bet there's a dawn shard of creation. 0. There will be a Dawnshard about thought, Autonomy will probably be one of it's aspects. Creation will be the Dawncommand the Dawnshards are shards of.
iceblade44 he/him Posted March 18, 2022 Posted March 18, 2022 Note for people, the teased Shard intent likely has nothing to do with Prudence. Reading its WoB, Prudence was a suggestion from the asker. How much it probably relates to the teased Shard is likely negligible 1
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