Araris Valerian

Another option, if we want a simpler game like @Aeoryi is suggesting, would be some kind of Tyrian mod. I like what I ran for LG 106 (no vote manip), but that still has a decent amount of complexity. A further deviation like no mental powers and no Mistborn would make for a fairly simple ruleset. Maybe set it in the Roughs or something.

Depending on the number of signup, a rerun of LG 62/42 could be fun.

Yeah, this, plus you being a Lurker, made me rather annoyed at the first missed NK, which was targeted at you. I probably switched too suddenly into “solve mode” and also had too much confidence in xino as elim. I was also deliberately ignoring discussions of the convert, such as not addressing you directly at all. I’m kinda glad nobody asked me about the role I claimed to have back when I pulled my gambit with Verdance. That might have gotten me picked out at the convert, since a bit of analysis would have revealed I had vote manip, which the elims would definitely want to prioritize. One of my potential endgame gambits was to use your Lurker role as a justification for you being the convert. But that was always scary because if I didn’t sway enough folks, the fact you actually has vote manip would have ended poorly for me, especially since I needed to be able to use the NK.

The first one was an accident. They picked Striker to kill but nobody sent an order in their GM PM. Once I was converted I made the call to deliberately skip a kill, primarily to reach an odd number of players, since my vote doubling would guarantee a win at 1-2. I was also working under the assumption that everyone just thought xino was the mole, so I thought I would be flying solo for 3 cycles rather than just 1, which played into the timing of when I skipped the kill.

I mean, I was pretty annoyed at first when I actually got converted . I'd gone to all that work to expose Verdance on accident (sorry about that @Verdance, btw, you caught me at a bad time when you asked for a thread summary), and then I get pulled into a team that's been almost entirely outed.

It was a lot more common back in the early days of SE, since it went hand-in-hand with the heavier RP nature of those games, but I still like to note anytime I end up with something significant. The best item I have is definitely a Shard of Preservation that came from a game that wasn't really supposed to have any shards in it. And it wasn't too long ago that I won a duel against Aman for (nearly) all of the Honorblades.

Thanks! I appreciated your support in both of the last two cycles, as well as how effectively you pushed back the xino execution .

I'd also like to remind everyone that I am a Silly Old Bear, and that nobody should be concerned when I survive to the end of games. My first preliminary thought is that the pacing seemed a bit weird, in the sense that we could solve the game faster than we could act on our solving. A lot of our metacycle exes were determined in previous pseudocycles. I think a future run of this game might work better as either a 24/24 MR, or some combination of 24/48 (still a LG).

Yeah, but I was a Lurker, so that wouldn't have helped. I just wanted to kill both of you, and vote doubling would have stopped my NK.

Good game everyone! Props especially to @Hoid Slayer for fighting on to the end. And a big thanks to @The Unknown Medallion and @Through the living Wahr for running the game, as well as to @Jo and the Bush for IMing. I have some thoughts about the game mechanics that I'll collect in a later post, but I think the general concept here was a success. The pseudogame was extremely high-impact in determining the outcome of the metagame, both because the original elims had to be somewhat bold to win their bet, and because the conversion ultimately led to a win. I guess I can add the 17th Shard (website) to my list of SE collectibles, since I'm the only person left alive after this game .

Yeah, I think I'm going to go with my first impression here, which is you as the last elim. I could spend a lot of time second-guessing that, but I don't think it's worthwhile.

This is false. We know the latest the conversion could have happened is the cycle where we exed Qian (metacycle 6), since xino was inactive for metacycles 7 and 8, but there was a NK on metacycle 8. And there wasn't one on metacycle 7. So whoever the convert is, they + xino didn't send in a kill on metacycle 7. 1. The three of us have all been active, so that doesn't help sort things out here 2. If I had been an original elim, the consideration for converting you would be a stealth thing, rather than thread control. The elims were pretty exposed after the pseudogame ended (coco+Qian+mole), so they could have just been concerned with survival 3. You could have been converted after going after xino That's mostly to say that you don't have a foolproof alibi. The main thing in your favor, at least in my eyes, is that you voted for xino pretty easily last cycle, in contrast with Hoid, who was trying to get me killed all day against solid evidence and without any good reasoning of his own.

Yeah, I’ll see what Divergence has to say for himself. I’m not 100% settled on you as the last elim, but I’m definitely leaning significantly in that direction.

I’m in a similar boat, and I’m sure Divergence will say the same as well.

That is a valid point. I’m not sure that tying the vote like that would be been a certain win for you though. Kit Kat had vote manip, and you have no way of knowing if Divergent or I also have some. Also, Kit Kat could herself gotten on at the and of the cycle like she has in previous turns. I’m not sure why e!Divergent would not just join you in voting on me though. That seems like it would have won him the game as well.