Honorless

Who's your least favourite character, @Ogo?

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To Teft, who died knowing he was loved. To Phendorana, who died teaching someone to accept love again To Tien, light in the darkness, life before death, journey before destination To the Heralds and the Knights and spren of the Recreance who all chose to make their sacrifice To the Darkeyed battalionlord, whose fate was sealed from the beginning, and we all knew, as did he himself To Raboniel, who sought an end to war To Eshonai, who died free

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Very high! The planet itself would be inclined towards certain types of magics.

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Somebody use the astronaut looking at earth "wait, it was all ___?" / "always has been" meme format, except there are multiple planets, and the first astronaut is Kaladin saying "I think they're all Shinovar" and the second astronaut is Wit saying "you people... just shut up and let me tell you the story"

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Think of it this way: Investiture can do anything, but it is more inclined to do certain things because it has been doing those things for a very long time, creating a well-worn path, along which it is inclined to flow. That's what these natural pathways are, which is why the magics are so similar, they follow or branch from the same paths.

It's a bit weird to see how much more time we spend with Kaladin, Shallan and Dalinar compared to other characters. Wow, part 1 made amount of time spent in Alethkar way longer than it seemed.

Hmm... I think she called it science after the Rhythms. She saw Honor's Rhythm as order and Cultivation's Rhythm as progress, and called their combination science. Hmm how would anti-Light of a Shard and Light of a different Shard interact? It didn't seem that one anti-Light was antithetical to all Investiture, hence different kinds of anti-Light

Yeah, what happened is a bit confusing. Szeth used Nightblood to kill Taravangian but we don't see the scene from his perspective, which would help a bit more. The body turns into Investiture upon Ascension, and from SH, if you're dead, with no Connection to the Physical and still Ascend, then you're an imperfect host and your body remains behind. Which didn't happen with Taravangian, he did not leave a body behind. Then there is Szeth, whose soul was rejoined to his body immediately after his death. A Shard definitely has enough Investiture to reConnect Taravangian's aspects across the Three Realms. So maybe Taravangian was healed from death. Then there is Nightblood, who might've completely vaporized Taravangian's body because let's not forget, he can do stuff like that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Oh but we're not done here. Taravangian was still of two minds after his Ascension: a dispassionate one and a passionate one. Is that Cultivation's Boon still in action within the Vessel of another Shard!? ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ) (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ （╯°□°）╯︵(\ .o.)\ What is even happening?! Must know! Boooooooooook 5!

Oh I agree, maybe that's why he didn't go along with those names for the Shard. Are you aware of all the WoBs regarding the Survival / hiding / Wisdom etc Shard? Because I said that in reference to that. Harmony said he couldn't find Invention again, the Survival / Wisdom Shard was said to have been hiding. Brandon also said Wisdom isn't quite that Shard's Intent and that they're realizing maybe to do better than hiding, which is what I think led them to allow Harming to contact them.

Maybe she didn't have a different body or soul, but it felt like she had a different mind. I definitely felt like she died there. Goodbye, Veil.

Yeah, it's difficult to tell right now what Cultivation's plan was. Did she try to see the best in Taravangian or... Taravangian is essentially also a broken god. With no Connection to the Physical he's not an effective Vessel, like Kelsier. And somehow, her Boon/Bane is still there in the Vessel of a Shard. Honestly, I think Cultivation would've been fine with either result, if the first happened: great! But just in case, here's not one but two failsafes (yes, that's how the plural of that is written). She's preparing because others are starting to interfere on Roshar and she wants the planet to be prepared. She probably has permanent plans for Odium. Perhaps she wants to merge his Intent with Honor, like Leras wanted with Preservation and Ruin. But that's the best case scenario. It's entirely possible Cultivation did get it wrong. Or that her mind is intent on Cultivating things, and her thinking has become near Eldrich. We just don't know.

I think the Invention / Wisdom / Prudence / Ingenuity / Survival Shard are one and the same but aside from that, that grouping is excellent work!

Oathpact 2: Bigger than the prequel!

Liss... actually fits Vedel better than her being Chana. Err... the opposite of fit... which is what makes it fit that Liss would be Vedel- oh you get the point!

Oh, ehehe, nice, lol Forgot about that rep title