Halyo_Alex

I think it's been WoB'd that Nicrosilminds store static investiture, the stuff that "sticks" to your spiritweb, like Breath or the sDNA that allows metalborn powers. Still potent if you can Compound, but not quite as versatile as it seems we assume.

Fair enough. I suppose flaring Malatium would likely help with such a goal as Forging someone else to a high degree of acceptance (on the part of the Essence Mark, not necessarily the person being Forged )

Well yeah, it's a visual thing, but Vin still had a significant reaction to touching her own Gold shadow, didn't she?

Really? I remember the time Vin tried to slice up the Lord Ruler's Malatium Shadow and it did rust-all to it, whereas touching your own Gold shadow causes a pretty severe feedback loop.

Ah, Malatium/the Eleventh Metal. The only one we know for sure. The one problem with that is that I know Gold Allomancy lets you see from both perspectives, the real you and the gold shadow, which feels a little more... in-depth. I think you could get more information from your own gold shadow than from someone else's Malatium shadow, basically. Perhaps still enough to forge someone, but still.

As an avid fan of experimenting and theorizing with the limits of Cosmere magic, I've found a handful of interesting combinations that result in obscure (sometimes not fully practical) emergent properties. For example, using Steel Compounding with Abrasion to reduce drag to allow you to run even faster than a normal steelrunner could before "bad things" start to happen like re-entry heating and stuff. Another fun thing you could do with Abrasion is if you pair it with Gravitation, and lash yourself only slightly horizontally, such that the total gravitational pull makes the ground feel like a downwards slope. Then slick your shoes with Abrasion and slide all around, re-lashing yourself to change direction. Alternatively, instead of doing that with Gravitation, you could use Allomantic Steel to give yourself momentum across the ground. Possibly one of the most interesting to me is an Augur who is also a Forger. They use their Gold Allomancy to learn all they can about a possible alternate past for themselves, and then Forge themselves into that alternate history. In addition, if they were a Copper Ferring (twinborn of gold and copper), they could store what the Gold shadow 'feels like' to them, and then use the memory while writing the soulstamp. The applications of this are likely only limited by what exactly one can know about themselves through Gold Allomancy and the skill of their Forging ability. Are there any of these interesting cross-compatibilities you think would be possible in the Cosmere? I would love to know more of them.

One thing I want to know is if Stormlight and Spren are special when it comes to gemstones interacting with Investiture and/or Splinters. Could you take a gem to Taldain and Invest it with Autonomy's Investiture on Dayside? Would that Sandlight, so to speak, be useable by a KR or a Fabrial? Could you put a Seon in a crystal and make Aon-based fabrials? Or even a Threnody Shade, thus making the shade-gun we hear about in Mistborn era 2's broadsheets (iirc)?

That's true, however as far as I remember Wax's condition seems to be either unique or very rare, and the only good explanation that easily comes to mind is an A-Pewter earring powered by a sprinkling of the mists' power.

Haha, giving a Spren ten thousand breaths as opposed to using those Breaths to [Warbreaker] That strikes me as a very fitting turnabout. Reverse-Reverse engineering a shardblade, in a way. I wonder what that much Breath would actually change about a Spren. Would it be a "corruption" in a different sense that the Endowment Investiture changes the spren in a fundemental manner? Obviously if you had 10,000 breaths and gave it to a Spren, the Heightenings would at least try to manifest in them, right? What would that do to your surges? I feel like the best Spren to do this to would be either a Cryptic or a Truthwatcher Spren, since they have Illumination and are thus closely related to colors and light.

As said, they're likely almost entirely decayed, although i personally attribute Wax's "feeling stronger in the mists" to being that his earring spike grants a very very tiny amount of Pewter allomancy, and Harmony allows him to consume the mists just enough to power it without any side effects. I'm probably wrong, but it's all I've got for an explanation so far.

The problem with the Threnody bit is that Aluminum actually cures Shade withering (so, 1, an Aluminum gnat would actually have a use on Threnody, huzzah, and 2, this means that if the Fullborn knows he/she is gonna be going to Threnody, then it's possible that they bring Aluminum with them).

Perhaps that's Feruchemical Edglium's effect?

A-Pewter, A-Steel, and F-Steel. I would go to so many more places if it just didn't take so long to get there, so I would compound steel and burn Pewter (for the improved sense of balance and extra endurance). Or just use A-Steel to go over obstacles like buildings as shortcuts. My two reserve/secondary metals would probably be Twin Gold (A and F) because I'm terrified of getting hurt irreversibly and I want to guarantee that I could fix something even as severe as a lost limb, juuuuuuuust in case. Also would be a good backup in the event that I run out of pewter or steel mid-jump and have to tank the landing manually.

Imagine if a Duralumin compounder became

I'm sure most people have wondered about or wished that there was more than just Mistings of a single metal and Mistborn with all the metals, or Ferrings and Full Feruchemists. I can't say I know exactly why Brandon limited things to that (though I am aware of his magical philosophy that limitations are more interesting than powers, and I agree, they are), but every now and then I've found myself wondering what would happen if Metalborn could exist with a push/pull pair, or all 4 metals of a quadrant, or all the pulling metals, or all the pushing metals. So I figured I'd make a topic where we can discuss which sets we'd want, or which ones you think are particularly powerful or interesting (tin/pewter pair, for example) or theorycrafting little things like what certain names would be for these hypothetical Metalborn. If I had a push/pull pair of Allomantic metals, I'd probably go with Chromium/Nicrosil. Leeching is super useful against all kinds of Invested things, and Nicrobursting can be even more chaotic or helpful, depending on who you use it on, and whether you're coordinating the timing of the burst or trying to surprise them with it. For feruchemy, even though they're not divided by push/pull & internal/external, I'd probably take the pair of... Well... Chromium and Nicrosil, actually. Fortune manipulation fascinates me, in general, and F-Nicrosil can be powerful and versatile under the right conditions. So what would you pick, if you could have a set of Metalborn powers between Misting/Ferring and Mistborn/Full Feruchemist?

So you'd either need to be a Full Feruchemist (difficult and random chance) or need to be a Ferring and spike yourself with either aluminum or another metal if you're a trueself ferring by birth. Seems unlikely enough that nobody would know for sure yet, but that it just might work.

Perhaps we need a Chromium compounder at the helm (proverbially) both to throw a primer cube to Leech the fullborn's metals, and to compound Fortune to know just which way to shoot to get the desired effect.

Why not merge the ideas of aluminum spike and aluminum bullet? we've already seen that Wax can shoot a hemalurgic bullet and have it work as intended, snipe a hemalurgic aluminum bullet quietly enough, in a loud enough area, that the Fullborn can't pick out the sound of the shot. Problem solved, and you don't even need to go for a kill-shot. Once his/her powers are gone, the Fullborn is just a normal (albeit very angry) person. You could then arrest them or what have you, no murder needed.

The thing about a fullborn is that they can compound all 16 metals, right. So you have absurd amounts of physical/mental speed, physical strength, healing, and even stuff like calories and hydration can be compounded via Bendalloy. But then they ALSO have all the normal Allomantic metal effects on top of compounded feruchemical effects... If Nicrosil feruchemy does store pieces of your spiritweb (as, per WoB, Nicrosil's feruchemical storage is more akin to Copper in that it's contents are distinct pieces rather than just a reservoir of power), then Nicrosil compounding most likely results in at least a temporary net-gain in things like Allomantic potency. So, much like how the Lord Ruler could soothe a whole city in his sleep, this fullborn could at least do it while awake, and to be fair, he can also compound Wakefulness with bronze, which means he doesn't need to sleep at all. I just think that Nicrosil compounding (if it works as I understand it to) and compounding in general makes a Fullborn too powerful if they're trying their damnedest to survive against a legitimate threat. TLR was only beaten because he didn't expect Vin to be able to push his Atiumminds, because they were charged and piercing his skin, and when they were removed, he was panicking to retrieve them and then grew too old too fast to be able to fight back effectively. So, no, I think you would effectively need to nuke a fullborn (who is legitimately youthful rather than old but compounding Atium), they just have too many potent powers that they could use in concert to overwhelm anything in their way. Even nightblood requires physical contact, and he could compound speed or burn Bendalloy to evade him. Hm... Okay, maybe if a Steel compounder could sustain Nightblood AND get the speed boost, they MIGHT be able to get him. But afaik Nightblood cancels the power and just eats the investiture.

Or a Pewter Ferring with huge reserves of strength, to further enhance the boost that Plate confers. "Here, let me throw this wall at that Voidbringer"

This sounds crazy, if possible. It seems just logical enough that it could be simple perception holding people back from doing that. After all, most steel/iron allomancers don't think you can push on anything but the center of "mass" for metallic objects, yet you can. So perhaps it's a matter of Intent and changing your perception to allow information to flow through the connection.

Ok, so, correct me if i'm wrong, but I can't seem to find a topic on Shadiversity/Shad Brooks' amazing fantasy novel, Shadow of the Conqueror (Book one of the Chronicles of Everfall). I could have sworn this would have been picked up by forum-goers here since it really feels like a cosmere book (and because Shad is involved with Stormlight 4 iirc). I looked online, but I couldn't find any sort of "everfall wiki" which documents what has been revealed of Tellos' magic (among other things like character info), which is kind of saddening because I really love this book and I'm ridiculously hyped for the next book in the series. I want to be able to quickly review what's been revealed so far when the next book is about to be released, rather than having to skim book 1 to refresh my memory. Granted, there are some things about the magic I'll never forget (no spoilers), but there are all sorts of little details I might before the second book comes out. I'm one of those people who likes to study hard magic systems to try and predict what could be done next with it, and those little details could be foreshadowing for new abilities that might come to light (ha) in later books. Other than the lack of a wiki (which I truly can't blame Shad for, it's not his job to make one), I have no real complaints about the book itself. The magic is absurdly well-thought out (he even has some math formulas in there), the characters are compelling, the plot is exciting and dramatic when it needs to be, and calm and quiet when it needs to be.

Yeah. We see that the Windrunner oaths can vary significantly due to personal variables.

Something else I'm intrigued by is if the arrow could shapeshift after being fired, and what effect that has on the velocity. Logically it feels like it should affect it if the mass changes, but I don't know, it could do some spiritual mumbo jumbo.

Well, given how Shardblades are absurdly lightweight for their size, a normal sized arrow would be like shooting a feather. However, the shape-shifting nature of a shardblade means you could manifest unique and unusual arrowhead shapes, like a wide, crescent shape that's designed to cut a wide distance as it flies.