Halyo_Alex

So I've been thinking about Hemalurgy a lot recently. One of my latest questions is about a multi-metal spike (like how the Bands of Mourning are a multi-metalmind). If you made a spike of all 16 metals (or, 15; adding aluminum would be kinda dumb), would it work? would the spike steal all of the things that its metals would steal at once? or would just the metal on the tip of the spike get charged, and the rest be inert? But then, what if the metals were radially arranged, such that all 15 spanned from tip to spike-head? Assuming that it DOES work and steals EVERYTHING that hemalurgy can from the donor... What now? You have this super spike, where do you... put it? What the heck kind of bind point does a spike like this even have? ...The heart? Maybe where the steel Linchpin of the Inquisitors goes? Moreover, could you do this with the Kandra Blessings (assuming you had the knowledge and means to turn the spikes into actual Blessings)? A simpler version of this might be a Lerasium/Atium multispike, since that would steal all the human aspects and all the powers (allomancy/feruchemy). But you'd miss stuff like Chromium and Duralumin's hemalurgic effects, right?

Now I'm curious about what would happen if you spiked out their Identity with duralumin, made them a Lifeless, and then spiked their own identity back into them. Would they... Regain their personality? ...maybe you'd need a copper spike in there too.

Alright, good to know. I figured as much, considering the vast detail of the map, but it's still good to have it confirmed like that. In other news, I decided to fix Aon Ati and Aon Ire (my two favorites) with the chasm marks... They look pretty neat with them! I like the way that two of the chasm lines for Aon Ati now intersect with two of the coast lines.

Oh yeah, I saw that on the other chasm-related thread on this (Elantris) forum topic, but some people were debating how accurate it really was (the OP actually argues the WoB is wrong) and so I made this thread to finally get it straight. I'm leaning towards trusting the 10th anniversary map, but if I'm misjudging this, I'm happy to reconsider. I just want the most accurate rendition possible.

Hmm, well, perhaps. I'm just going off that 10th anniversary map, which has the chasm at that size. The actual, canonical Aons might use a different line.

Very true, it would seem. Anyway, here's my fixed modified Aon Aon now! Edit: Remade Aon Rao as well (I think. Does Elantris need a second chasm line in order to magnify Aons?)

OH, my god you're totally right, how on Earth did I miss that?! XD Thanks for pointing it out, will fix that on my modified Aon Aon. Looking at that map now, I can't believe I missed it. Even when I'm looking at what I thought the chasm was before, the actual chasm stands out so much in my peripheral vision. XD Thanks again!

I wanted to know this for artistic reasons (mainly fixing the Aon(s) I might add to my icon, if I find a good one) but also just in general so I can get an idea of how any Aon looks after they were fixed. Problem is, I haven't found a good source that's convinced me for certain. There was an earlier thread about it, but the information within seemed fairly conflicted. So I went to the Coppermind, checked a map of Arelon, and found the Chasm in the bottom right, south of the Atad mountain range. Or so I think. Hence why I'm making this post, just so you people who know more about AonDor can correct me and I can finally know for sure. I've attached my attempt at adding the Chasm line to Aon Aon, for reference. Thanks in advance for taking time to help me affirm this!

Well, not anything physical.

Well, remember, Glys is not a normal Truthwatcher spren. Normal Truthwatcher spren look like light refracted onto a wall from a crystal. Illuminating that wall.

I mean... What do you think a Koloss is? Iron Hemalurgy savant. The physical embodiment of physical strength. So strong it can't even be human anymore. ...Makes me wonder what a Copper hemalurgy savant/construct would be.

The name stems from the fact that it's a process of using Feruchemy to enhance Allomancy (and normal Compounding is using Allomancy to enhance Feruchemy.) And, fair enough, I wouldn't expect this to be totally new news, but I found this a personal breakthrough because of that one WoB that mentioned there was "a way to use Feruchemy to enhance Allomancy" like with Compounding. As well, I haven't seen this process documented anywhere on the Coppermind or anywhere else I've checked. This is also true! I have my own little hypothesis that the Nicroburst protagonist of Era 3 might end up with an F-Nicrosil Medallion (or an F-Nicrosil spike, unsure about that tho). If so, we could see some really crazy stuff go down in some of those books. A man can dream, right?

I see where you're coming from here, but the key thing is that you're not using allomantic nicrosil on your own metals. You're compounding feruchemical nicrosil to multiply the amount of "ability to burn ___" metal you stored in your Nicrosilmind. The allomantic nicrosil of your own ability is used to compound the Nicrosilmind(s). [Bands of Mourning spoiler] So in theory, Reverse Compounding would do that, but 10 times more powerful due to how Compounding Nicrosil would work. It would behave similarly to Duralumin, but instead of basically super-flaring your burned metals, Reverse Compounding would send your ability to allomantically burn (a) metal(s) through the roof, which would then let you burn it at a normal rate with a much stronger effect (much like how era 2 mistings' metal powers are much weaker than era 1 mistings/mistborn, it would elevate that power level back up and perhaps even beyond era 1 mistborn levels of power... for a few seconds, until the Nicrosilmind was fully burned.)

That could achieve something similar, but remember that burning a metalmind gives you 10 times the power you put into it. and you can store a LOT of "the ability to burn ___ metal allomantically" inside a Nicrosilmind already, enough to (if tapped all at once) give you a considerable amount of extra power WITHOUT duralumin. Compounding that Nicrosilmind would give you 10 times THAT amount of power, using the End-positive nature of Allomancy to give you even more Allomantic power than you stored up. The difference is that Duralumin basically forcibly burns all other metals in a flash... and you can Reverse Compound Duralumin and your metal of choice to amp things up even further, too. In addition, this would theoretically work to Double Compound, where you improve your allomantic power for a metal you can also compound normally (which includes Nicrosil!) and then compound a metalmind with that super-boosted allomancy. I am totally open to having someone explain anything I missed or misinterpreted, that's why I made this thread. And I am glad you asked, because I got to think about this more. You might be on to something if the nuances of the Metallic Arts are as you hypothesize, but the fact that Reverse Compounding works on allomantic Duralumin makes me think it would just be an extra level of power you could impart to your allomancy.

Okay, so... First post. Yay. I won't waste your time with that though, cause I want to see if anyone agrees with me on this. So hopefully you know what Compounding is; when someone has the same metal in Allomancy and Feruchemy. They can Allomantically burn a charged metalmind to get "tenfold" the amount of power back out of it, using the End-positive nature of Allomancy to generate that extra Feruchemical aspect. So here's my theory on Reverse Compounding, where one would use Feruchemy to increase the amount of power you get out of burning a metal. STEP ONE: Be a Nicrosil Compounder. This can be done using Hemalurgy spikes, if needed. STEP TWO: Spike yourself with another allomantic metal. Preferably not Aluminum. STEP THREE: Charge the everloving heck out of your Nicrosilmind with your spiked Allomantic metal. STEP FOUR: COMPOUND THAT NICROSILMIND TO HECK. STEP FIVE: BURN THE HECK OUT OF THE CORRESPONDING METAL. STEP SIX: PROFIT. And that's the most basic form of Reverse Compounding! And yes... Reverse Compounding Duralumin with another metal alongside it would be even more insane. But we can discuss those scenarios together. P.S. A Fullborn/Full Compounder can do this with no spikes needed. So that's fun.