Halyo_Alex

Pewter is broadly applicable irl, and also isn't overtly obvious like steel/iron, so i wouldn't get kidnapped by the government for study.

I've seen a few people theorizing lately that he's trying to get a bit of every shard's Intent so that when he does pick up one, they give him freedom to act in ways other than just the one shard's intent. A mini-Ado, if you will.

Yeah. Difficult to hold a discussion on this until OP reads it.

Many thanks

*grabs popcorn*

Or... Change, and don't Survive? This actually works for Nightblood too, which has been confirmed to contain Ruin's Investiture... We don't need that slightly uncomfortable Destroy Dawnshard anymore. Because let's be real, it doesn't really fit for a couple reasons (why would one of the pieces of "creation" be "destruction" incarnate, and investiture cannot be destroyed, etc). 0000... this is tricky because in this case it's a shard that just doesn't care about any of the traits from any of the dawnshards. Maybe Apathy then? similarly for 1111 it cares about all of them.

I may have stumbled into the beginnings of something much bigger than I anticipated. It was an easy enough matter to get started; I posed a set of statements and a question to myself. "It's becoming increasingly clear that color and metal are important fundamentals of the Cosmere because of Fabrials, Awakening, and the Metallic Arts. Color is important because it's a property of specific wavelengths of light, particular "tones" of light. So how is Metal going to relate to that?" From there, I hit upon a couple possibilities. But I think the one most worth going into detail about connects Investiture to my favorite weird physics, that's right everyone, quantum mechanics. It's my current hypothesis that metallic atoms have the proper frequency of quantum wavefunction to "filter" different frequencies of Investiture. This results in the strange supernatural "theming" of the metals across the metallic arts and even extending into the cages of Fabrials, where color and tone have already been proven abundantly needed. Picture "background investiture" as white noise. Now picture, say... Tin atoms in a pure, undisturbed lattice. Now recall that according to quantum mechanics, all particles also behave like waves (this has even been observed with molecules made of tens of carbon atoms still producing an interference pattern (even when released 1 at a time) in the famous double-slit experiment). The frequency of Tin's quantum wavefunction will interfere constructively with some frequencies of background investiture, and destructively interfere with others, filtering the output of the investiture into a new set of frequencies that don't look like background noise, the frequencies become a stream of investiture that "enhances senses", or something thereabouts. Now picture using a specific Shard's Investiture as the "background investiture". Tin will filter out everything of that shard that doesn't relate to senses, causing the amplification. Stormlight becomes a booster of the spren's sensitivity, making them output less for the same subjective feeling, while Tineyes get to see through the Mists because the frequencies overlap due to the Investiture originating with Preservation. And of course, with alloys, what's important is the "holes" in the atomic lattice (and indeed, metallic atoms' ability to arrange in a regular structure is key in general). It lets other frequencies of investiture leak through, which correspond to different effects. Tin's senses becomes Pewter's physical enhancement. The one thing I'm not certain on is where in Allomancy the push/pull difference originates from precisely. Is it just a rule that Bronze seeking hears pure metal tones as "pulling" while alloyed tones become "pushing"? Or is it a fundemental, even a Singer would hear tin as pulling, while pewter pushes? I'd love to hear feedback on all of this in general. I'm super curious to know if my "quantum wavefunctions filter Investiture frequencies" hypothesis makes any sense.

Mmmmm, secrets...

Very balanced.

I mean... They're not exactly incorrect. The nahel bond is easier to form if your spiritweb has cracks in it, which trauma will create, so "snapping" someone CAN make it easier for them to become Radiant...

well now I just want the alt-timeline where Kel finds aluminum instead lol

Brandon has said the Unmade don't exactly correspond to the orders of Knights, and that there's not a specific Bondsmith unmade... So BAM may indeed be that "fuzziness" in the correspondence while also not exactly being a bondsmith unmade. She's mostly the parallel of Jezrien, while also having the connection abilities of a bondsmith.

This.

I want more science stuff. Like different effects from Ettmetal (we see Chromium acts at a distance from a primer cube), what would bronze do in a primer cube??

OR... She's trying to bait him into breaking it because she knows Rayse wouldn't, and wants to Splinter Odium once and for all.

Almost makes it sound like they should be able to push things around physically, including themselves. Imagine pairing that functionality with Abrasion...

I'm noticing a distinct lack of SA characters as Twinborns here... I suppose with the front 5 being the "era 1" of SA it would feel a bit strange, but remember that Stormlight 1-5 technically happens only about a decade before MB E2. With that being said I have no particular ideas for those, I'm just making the observation so that people with more free time can come up with some.

Is this the magic system of the 17th shard?

Ah, then yeah, you could have two ironminds that the ettmetal can use, and the Primer can tap. That's mostly a nice bonus to the point you brought up below. And Steel is a good material for a sword to be made out of to begin with, so it works automatically. I wonder if Brandon planned that for easy invested weapons...

Quite... Mistical? That does seem to be an issue. I can't think of anything really native to Scadrial that would cause those properties. Maybe using an Atium blade, but that would REALLY limit the amount of these you can make. I mean, if the person priming the F-Iron storage of the ettmetal in the sword is the same person who's later tapping that storage, I don't see why there would be a severe Identity mismatch. True. My idea is to take some iron, store weight until it's full, alloy it into steel (which leaves it feruchemically charged, but now because it's steel, that charge of weight is inaccessible by ANYONE), and then shape that steel into the blade, making it push/pull resistant, among other things.

I recall there being a WoB that Atium behaves like a platinum group metal, but IDK if that means it's super malleable or not. Recall however Zane's trick on Vin with the atium-coated lead bead, so it's at least not impossible to form it around a metal like Lead.

Allows the sword itself to store weight in an ironmind (a la southerner airship) and "burn" pewter to enhance the blade's durability.

Cool. Now that that's settled, does anyone have thoughts on my interpretation of a Scadrian Shardblade?

Well yeah, you can do that. Call them Rosharan or Scadrian or Nalthian Shardblades.

Okay... But there's a distinction between Sprenblades and Honorblades. Sure, the concept of a "magic sword" as a whole can be called Shardblades, blades powered by Shard-induced effects, but the blades (and plate) specifically from Roshar made by spren would be less confusing if their common name was Stormblades/plate.