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That would not work very well. You would have to get close enough to touch Miles and have enough metal to keep up with his health storage. The problem with Miles is the shear amount of healing investiture he has access to. Even with duralumin that is very difficult to overwhelm. His metalminds are fully stored and on top of that they pierce his body. Stealrunning won't increase your speed in midair but it does increase your time. Even if you aren't moving any faster you have Wayne's advantages

Breaths can be moved freely as can allomacy. The first is a function of how Endowment's power works while the second is not tied to position like some other magic systems. The question of how he is getting off Roshar is a good one. Sadly we do not have an answer yet although a number of theories have been proposed.

Why a goldfish specifically?

Seems like a kind of messy method. Given the number of safer shape change methods available I wouldn't recommend this one even if it works. Hemalurgy is like a surgical transplantation. It is going to leave scaring and there is a risk of compromising the body's integrity. Even just using metalic arts you might be better off if you can figure out how to tap someone else's identity along with healing or store particular components of your own identity so that you can heal the remaining characteristics more strongly.

It isn't a good comparison. The force is a soft magic system. Stormlight is a hard magic system. Given enough time the jedi would develop methods capable of countering the radiants. The better their understanding of radiants, spen, ideals and investiture the better able to counter them they would become. Sure you can't force choke a knight radiant in armor very easily. Even if you could stormlight would keep them alive. The thing is the force's strength is more subtle then that. Its a source of knowledge rather then power. Sure radiant x might be able to cut through jedi but a good jedi would contemplate the radiant understand them and, if necessary, find the inevitable weak spot.

I don't think that would work. The shards derive from the dawnshards not the other way around.

Other reason that the stormather is giving more information to Gavilar then to Dalinar might be his comment on not trusting the Kholins any longer. It does raise the question of why spren are attracted to Kholins in the first place but that is a separate issue.

More of a Gavilar discussion thread. I should probably make the title less inflammatory...

But it wouldn't be a surprise. If you know all about radiants you know she has one don't you?

All of the Herald's were fighters. The restrictions are on their attitudes not their abilities. Ash can figure out Hoid's drawing style, Nale still has excellent legal knowledge and Taln's combat skill are still ludicrous. Channah might avoid fighting but she would still know how to fight.

I haven't seen this in the thread yet but is it possible the death of the Herald the stormfather saw was in the future? Gavilar's death was Connected to Jes's death in the future. You might even say it was directly responsible for it. Without him around and the highprinces off at the shattered plains the fused easily took out what had once been some of their greatest enemies. If Alethkar had not fallen Jes would have remained alive after all. The stormfather even says that he is having a glimpse of the future and that he cannot let anyone know what is going on. Gavilar's legacy is the fall of Alethkar and the death of mankind's greatest defender. It all happened because he could not trust any of the brilliant people in his life who loved him. Meanwhile while the fused thought they could capture Jes they ended up killing him instead. Almost like what was really going on with his connection to Honor had been hidden by someone.

A Herald would know a radiant could summon a shardblade. Ishar(an average fighter by radiant standards) is able to fight off multiple windrunners using mostly just blade skills. Channah is a fighter probably in the top three. I find if slightly difficult to believe that she cannot handle an attack on that level even if she is taken by surprise. That is a potentially more important point. Locking a soul in a box is actually how one kills Heralds. However you need Raysium to make that work. A different point. If you are wondering why the stormfather is acting a bit different then with Dalinar it is because of how Gavilar views him. Spren take on different shapes based on the perception of those they interact with. Gavilar often saw the stormfather as an opponent(human) to be overcome. Dalinar sees him more as an abstract force.

It is an interesting idea but it has several problems. A herald loosing in a fight to an eight year old girl and an ordinary man is pretty hard to get your head around. Also I have a hard time understanding how physical death would matter. Wouldn't it just send them to braize? If Channah broke right afterwards wouldn't that start the desolation instantly?

I'm not sure who else it could be since he had the same visions. I think it more likely that Gavilar deliberately misunderstood the stormfather. Gavilar was appears to be a sociopathic high functioning narcissist. While this is a manageable problem in of itself I think he was a victim of his own success. While he had to use his considerable talents to unite a kingdom he apparently got to used to winning afterwards. Thadikar even warned him about the danger of what he was doing due to the similarity of their experiences. The major difference was that Thadikar actually kept confidants and trusted others despite everything. Gavilar didn't ever trust anyone.

I missed it because it was in the cosmere discussion area. However I do think a separate Gavilar discussion thread is a good idea.

No one has made one of these yet so I thought a spoiler thread for the stormlight 5 prologue might be a good idea. I can summarize my own thoughts on this chapter with the title but what do you all think? Gavilar was so close and yet so far. Did the stormfather lie to him? He wanted that guy to succeed him? I honestly think that the stormfather was a lot less frustrated then I would have been. Can Brandon please write a chapter about Gavilar having a full round sparing session with Dalinar? I need to release some of my aggravation. Gavilar remains a highly complex figure even after this chapter. What do you all think of him now that we have seen his mind?

Typo. I meant would allow them to track down and attach it to Hoid.

That is possible. It seems kind of like an intent the way Odium described it in SA4.

Probably not since Sigzil blames Hoid.

It might be noteworthy. Perhaps he is oversumoned(kind of like Sigzil swore six ideals)?

A lot of people are talking about Sigzil breaking his oaths. I think it more likely that the oaths are simply not valid anymore. An oath is a connection formed in the spiritual realm. It exists beyond time as the crystallization of the concept of a virtue and an individual's commitment to it. A broken oath is thus the crystallization of personal failure. It is almost an anti-connection(or a connection to a harmful or painful concept). In short when you break an oath you are not destroying the connection you are just attaching it to something else. Sigzil says his oaths "ended" and Auxiliary literally does not know what he is talking about. Thus I think we can say that Sigzil didn't break them or some remnant of them would still exist. However Sigzil's oaths ending and his "spren" not knowing about them implies instead that they never existed in the first place. Essentially his ideals(or at least the connection that they were made of) no longer exist/have never existed. This raises the scientific question formally called "WTF?" I mean we have visual evidence of Sigzil as a Windrunner. How on earth did this happen? Breaking it down Sigzil was a Windrunner Sigzil's connection to Windrunner ideals does not exist anymore. Sigzil is very strongly connected to Hoid. Some of Hoid's restrictions and abilities are rubbing off on Sigzil. These abilities seem to include healing and connection manipulation although not Hoid's virtual immortality(even if it might extend his lifespan). Auxiliary refers to himself as a knight and Sigzil as his squire. Auxiliary is very similar to Hoid in several respects(the most obvious being his speech patterns and areas of interest). Auxiliary is a spren of some type. Auxiliary believes itself to be dead and blames Sigzil for it. Auxiliary, Sigzil and Hoid are all very closely connected. Close enough that they can contact each other from across seller distances and giving Sigzil a dawnshard would also give you the means to track down Hoid. Whatever Hoid did it was a mistake. Something he didn't intend to happen. From this I can gather that Hoid and Sigzil's relationship is something somewhat similar to a knight and squire radiant relationship. Essentially Hoid made his own radiant order and stuck in Sigzil as a member. This seems to account for the unusual abilities Sigzil now has. However it seems another side effect took hold. This is Sigzil's torment. Initially it seems that his oaths protected him. Basically his connection to his oaths made connection to his torment impossible. Keeping in mind Sigzil is currently on the run from a group called the night brigade who want to attach a dawnshard to him. Sigzil can use investiture of all kinds as a result of the torment Hoid gave him. This torment also prevents him from hurting people. Auxiliary's base form is a shardblade. Sigzil cannot access that form unless torment slips up. The implication might be that Auxiliary would be a deadeye except he cannot be because the oaths never happened. I would guess torment is essentially the ideal his is most strongly connected with right now. I would also guess that Sigzil's specific torment is incompatible with the ideals of honor he wants to uphold. Think of the torment like a curse. It demands a certain kind of behavior. In fact it makes certain behaviors impossible. Since time isn't a thing for the connection Sigzil had to his ideals as far as his oaths were concerned the torment was always there. As a result Sigzil never broke his oath. As far as his spren was concerned he never swore oaths to begin with. However this would put the spren in a paradox. Essentially it was bound to an individual who had never sworn oaths. This last part is mostly a guess but squires have to be a certain distance from their knights for the power to work. I think Hoid essentially found the paradoxical nonexistent spren and overwrote it with his own personality. Essentially Auxiliary is a spren of Hoid. Sigzil does not appear to be able to get free from his connection to Hoid. I imagine that his torment binds him to that as well. He can only do what he wants within strict limitations or for split seconds when the curse slips. It also appears that the torment is getting stronger over time. If I'm right about Auxiliary then it would make sense that Sigzil is more strongly bound to that then his previous oaths. The thing that defines him as a person right now is his connection to Hoid and the limitations this places on him rather then his ideals of honor. This might also explain why Hoid is reluctant to spend more time with him. He doesn't want to make Sigzil's torment any worse by strengthening their connection.

I'm going to create another topic for my general what is going on with him but to answer just the OP. I think Auxiliary is a bit like a spren of Hoid.

Sigzil isn't like this. He is just having a really bad day. Being exiled and on the run for your life will do that to a man. I don't think he is a different person. He just cannot be himself in this situation.

Syl does play tricks with adhesion from time to time.

I don't think Sigzil saved Roshar. As he points out he saved Hoid not exactly the same. Guessing just from the context Hoid got in over his head and had Sigzil bail him out.