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Aon Tia can do this, the Surge of Transportation can do this and it already did this in the past, when Ashynite were migrating to Roshar, they used a supercharged Elsecalling. And this is all faster than light travel, because it moves you through the Spiritual Realm where distance and time doesn't matter. In the future Scadrial will develop an FTL drive using their Metallic Arts. We don't know many details yet, but we know it's possible. I doubt it will be cheap, but it's possible that in the future investiture will become more widely available (like Ghostbloods want) and this will make it far more economical.

Experimenting with Hemalurgy is expensive and wasteful. Inquisitors have a limited number of test subjects and if they mess up and kill one without getting any power, they will lose a spike forever. Inquisitors didn't all have the same set of spikes, it all depended on the number of Mistings they managed to capture. Experimentations with Atium are even more expensive and they did it to wrongly determine that Atium steals temporal powers (but it steals all). So we already have one example of Inquisitors missing the full potential of Atium, I don't see why it's so hard to believe that they would also miss that it's possible to steal multiple powers with a single spike. If the main component of this is for the donor to remain alive after spiking to spike them again (which we have WoB confirming that's possible), then it's clear why they'd never figured it out, as nobody knew that you can spike someone and not kill them until Set figured it out. Ruin simply didn't care about this, he didn't care about powers he was wasting by killing people - he was Ruin, the embodiment of entropy, everything must decay and so must Metallic Arts and even his Inquisitors. Even when Vin was killing Inquisitors and Koloss, she was serving Ruin. The fact that Ruin didn't care that much about empowering his Inquisitors is evident as he never taught them how to compound and they'd never figured it out on their own - even though Ruin was controlling them, it's their intent that mattered, if they didn't know, they weren't able to compound. With Hemalurgy Ruin was able to provide his own intent, but he simply didn't care about efficiency - he knew he won, Scadrial was meant to be wholly destroyed and waste and decay are in the core of his Shard, not efficiency. I 100% agree. Add to this that every spike damages your spirit web, which isn't something trivial.

Fabrials. Oathgates are giant fabrials for the Surge of Transportation, Soulcasters are fabrials of the Surge of Transformation, Nale had a fabrial for the Surge of Progression. There are fabrials for almost every Surge. Just use them, they were common once. It's really hard to fake Surgebinding because bonding a sapient piece of Honor and Cultivation is the key part of this magic. When Awakening you're using Breaths - Endowment's investiture - thus you won't receive Surgebinding powers from that because it's not the right type of investiture. You can try to use Stormlight, but most likely you will end up with something like Nightblood, rather than a proper spren/Honorblade. You won't get what you want that way. Surgebinding is probably one of the hardest invested arts to fake your way into, because it involves Oaths and sapient spren.

Yes, it seems that F-nicrosil works that way - it stores abilities, innate investiture only. They will mostly likely be able to decide which power to store, they could store both if they want, Intent is the key. Just like a Feruchemist storing would be able to choose what power to store and how many at once. I don't know if the ability to draw Stormlight and heal can be considered as separate, or if it's a "side effect" of their Nahel Bond. I think healing can be considered as a separate, kind of third power, thus they can store their healing too. But drawing Stormlight probably is because of the nature of their bond. It's hard to say - Vasher can use Stormlight to feed his Divine Breath without being a Surgebinder, so it seems it's not really a part of your innate investiture, more like the result of having strong Connection to Honor and his investiture (kind of like Navani moving it by singing the pure tone of Honor).

Untrue. They've never faced an Inquisitor burning Atium and they knew it - they cut open their stomachs. Inquisitors, just like Vin and Elend, had no Atium at their disposal. HoA ch 5: There is no need for analyzing shadows, the only thing that matters is that you can see your own shadow and have a potential to see it and thus react to it. You are interfering with your own Fortune. Hemalurgic control isn't like that - he's just issuing commands which they are following with their own actions. It's not predetermined. They should see many shadows as well. HoA ch 42: HoA ch 69:

Is it true? The difference between matter and antimatter is in their charge. It's basically the mirror image of matter, it just has an opposite charge and they exist freely in the universe, react to gravity and all other forces - it has the same mass, it's almost the same thing with an inverted charge. Anti-Investiture is the same - it's a mirror image of Investiture, it has an opposite wave function and it has the same energy. Being "tuned" is a crucial property of Investiture in Cosmere. Just like the property of matter is mass, charge and spin, frequency is a fundamental property of Investiture in Cosmere. So it makes all the difference that Investiture's frequency was inverted. Anti-Investiture drop by itself won't be Investiture, it will remain Anti-Investiture, because its fundamental property is inverted. A positron (electron with a positive charge) isn't an electron in the absence of matter. But just like you can create anti-atoms out of antimatter, you can probably use Anti-Investiture in the same way as Investiture is being used (which would be really hard as it will always react with any investiture it touches). Anti-investiture was always presented as an analogy to antimatter, including in RoW.

That's true. However Stormlight is gaseous form of investiture, while Honorblade are solid. Honorblades are vastly more concentrated and denser than Stormlight is. Plus Honorblades are self-aware, they aren't just raw investiture. Unlikely. Investiture resists investiture, affecting something that's pure investiture will be hard with Forgery. And it would require a massive amount of Stormlight - even with Dalinar's perpendicularity you're unable to access enough investiture to create a god metal, which Honroblades are. Forgery doesn't juggle with such amounts of investiture. Yes, that's a problem. You can try overcoming it by Forging a normal sword to be a Honorblade, but as previously stated, this sort of things would require massive amounts of investiture (probably doesn't matter what kind, it can be Stormlight, it can be Dor), it's so difficult that nobody can do that. They are pure Tanavastium. Made 100% by Honor. Shardblades are different because they are Spren's bodies, which are a mixture of Honor and Cultivation's investiture. There are some benefits (like speaking to the mind of his wielder, sensing where he is, immunity to his "evil test" and some other unknown powers) , Nightblood does create a bond between him and his user. But Nightblood wasn't made to grant any powers unlike Honorblades. No, Surgebinding is both of Honor and Cultivation. They can both access it and fuel it alone.

Any investiture will react explosively with anti-investiture, no matter to what it's keyed. The reaction is simply greater when they are both keyed to the same Shard: I'm not really understanding what you mean here. Anti-investiture and investiture reacts like matter and antimatter - investiture/matter is 100% turned into energy, which is released as an explosion destroying everything around it. If you want to destroy only one Shardic investiture present on the entire planet, like destroy Odium's investiture from all of Roshar, you would need a mountain of anti-investiture in the first place, it will react with other types of investiture anyway and this much anti-investiture would annihilate the entire planet. You can't do that. If you just drop anti-investiture in a random place, it will just poof out of the existence at the first contact with any type of investiture, without much of explosion, because what makes it explode is the fact that it was used in gems, which are a pressurized vessel - Raboniel's daughter or Phendorana didn't explode, because their souls weren't pressurized. So if you just release anti-investiture in a Highstorm it will just react with the Stormlight, disappearing together and it would be disappointingly eventless, but if you suck Stormlight into a gem and then infuse that gem with anti-light, it will explode. Yes, anti-investiture reactors - just dose a small amount of anti-investiture to a sealed off vessel full of investiture, this will generate a controllable amount of energy, which you can harness to spin a turbine and generate electricity. Simple. Just like splitting atoms can vanish a city, but also power it.

From HoA ch 3: Electrum, unlike Atium, shows you a mess of many different shadows of possible future that you can do. This is because electrum shows you your future, thus you can react to it and change it, which creates another shadow, to which you can react and make another one etc. This WoB confirms that:

Technically speaking, the effect of pure Atium is comparable to what happened when Elend burned Atium-electrum alloy with duralumin. So it's vastly more powerful than the alloy. But assuming they have the same effects: Brandon has already talked how this would change the Era 1, that's how he is planning the movie to work, with Atium working like Atium-electrum alloy I assume: In short, House Venture will have access to a small cache of Atium as the last resort to control the city. They will have a designated group of Allomancers that will be given this Atium (Ham will become a part of it, to learn where Atium is hidden). Other than that, the amount of Atium in the hands of great houses will remain as it was in the books - few beads or something like that - and I think it's reasonable to assume that Mistborn will have the priority on getting beads, but other Mistings might have them as well from time to time. Until the Hose Venture gets authorized to use the Atium stash, we probably won't see many Mistings with Atium running around Luthadel. Kelsier and his crew want to rob Venture Atium because they think Venture will get access to the full, mythical cache of the Lord Ruler - which isn't true. Other than that the plot and how it goes would remain more or less the same. In universe. Metallic Art tables, Ars Arcanum etc. are in world documents, written by someone and available in Cosmere as presented to us. Ars Arcanum is written by Khriss for example. I’m guessing the HoA tables are a part of the Words of Founding left by Sazed.

We don't know Hoid's end goal, that's a big RAFO. All we know is that Hoid wants to stop Odium by all means necessary (even sacrificing Roshar). There is something in his past that he deeply regrets doing and many think this is about the Shattering. Many people believe that Hoid wants to restore Adonalsium by recombining all Shards - that's why he's collecting all invested arts by this theory, to gain needed Connection to all Shards. There is even one WoB in which Brandon hinted that Hoid wants to "make that which once was." From his interactions with Sazed from SA letters and his involvement with Wax, it seems unlikely that Hoid is against Harmony, rather they seem to be allies right now as Sazed is one of few who sees Odium as a great threat to Cosmere.

Inquisitor's body dissolved in the Well, it didn't appear in the CR near Kelsier as it should have if it was transported into the CR. Hoid couldn't have used an inquisitor's body. His head was still attached to the rest of the body - Inquisitor was decapitated. Hoid said it was a spirit, not a body - it's probably some kind of Cognitive Shadow, or something like that. It's invested enough to resist being pulled into the Beyond after death. And Spanky can talk. Inquisitor was killed some hours before Kelsier met Hoid, on the square in the city and Hoid was apparently not present on Scadrial during that time, so he had no way of catching Inquisitor's spirit. Inquisitor isn't invested enough to resist the pull into the Beyond, he would have faded in the comparable amount of time to what Kelsier experienced before becoming a Cognitive Shadow, which is nowhere near the amount of time to travel though Scadrian subastral by rowing like Hoid does.

Hello, welcome to the Shard We don't know for sure unfortunately. Shay did it by hacking the magic system - she drew a map of the Basin in TLM, which acted like the city of Elantris and allowed her to use AonDor there, probably being tied to this Aon of the Basin (so the further away she would get from it, the weaker would her magic be). While we still don't know the details of this, we know this works. TLM ch 54: The same thing might have happened with Riina and Hoid in Tress - after all there was a giant map of the entire planet on the floor, which might have acted in the similar way as Shay's drawing from TLM. However, unlike Shay's drawing, the map in the tower wasn't glowing, so personally I don't think it was due to the map. Plus, once Rinna left the planet, Hoid was able to use AonDor to modify the curse in some way and without the map it would probably be impossible. Keep in mind, Tress happens in the far future of Cosmere, very far future as Iriali left Lumar 300 years prior to the events of the book, they'd lived there probably for many generations, but right now they are on Roshar - this implies Tress takes place hundreds of years into the future, it's hard to say what will happen on Sel in that timeframe, they might have solved the problem of the Dor being in CR for example, which causes magic on Sel to be restricted by location - but this is a heavy speculation. Additionally, we know that increasing your Connection to Elantris, can help you overcome the location limitation of AonDor. It might be possible that both Riina and Hoid were using this trick to access the full power of the Dor, without any maps and other tricks. In the end, both Riina and Hoid have lived for thousands of years, studied arcana in great details and have extensive knowledge of all things regarding AonDor - they for sure can find dozens of ways to trick AonDor and make it usable on other planets. Moonlight did fake her Connection via a Soulstamp, but Hoid was invited to become an Elantrian by Riina, which apparently is a legitimate way of doing becoming Elantrian. Moonlight probably won't be Elantrian forever, because it's all fake, but Hoid will remain a real Elantrian. Tress ch 64:

From a quick look at Dawnshard, Yalb and two others seem to have survived more or less together. There was nothing particularly "special" about his survival, but people like to tell stories, so a gossip quickly spread that they've served on a ghost ship for years - maybe that confused you? Dawnshard prologue: Shallan doesn't just draw, her ability to create a Memory is a supernatural thing. She creates something like a photo of what she sees and then she moves it from her mind into a piece of paper, perfectly replicating every single detail of the Memory, including text. But once drawn, the Memory is gone from her mind and she can't draw it again. When Shallan tried to replace her sketchbook she was drawing everything from her normal, human memory, she couldn't use her magical Memory, because she already drew those pictures. That's why everything felt off to her, it wasn't as perfect as the first drawings. Moreover, as evident from her drawing of survivors of the Wind's Pleasure, she can draw things by glimpsing into the Spiritual Realm. That's why she drew Yalb surviving the sinking of the ship with others, that's why she can draw better versions of people.

Great catch and an interesting theory, however it's highly unlikely based on several WoBs. Brandon RAFO a lot of questions about Kandra on Roshar, yet when asked if she appeared on pages in WoK, he said he doesn't know - weird thing to say if that was Yalb. In contrast, he stated that she appears in OB - Yalb was not featured in that book, he was still presumed dead. Also, Brandon was "excited" when someone asked him, if this Kandra was Felt's wife - Malli - who indeed appeared only since OB. As a tangential note, this Kandra isn't working for Harmony. Regarding survival of the sinking of the Wind's Pleasure, Yalb wasn't the only survivor, there were several of them. It seems they were simply Fortunate to survive. WoBs:

The difference is that even though the Shardic power is infinite, the mind of a Vessel isn't and can't be, so they can't access and use all of it - but they are still Connected to that and it's still part of their Shard. No, they are not, they are Splinters, autonomous fraction of Shardic power. They aren't a Shard, they are separated pieces of a Shard. At that level it simply doesn't matter if it's finite or infinite. It's like saying that the number of atoms in the observable universe is finite - 10^82 is basically infinity for all we care about. There is no physical object that can contain infinity (or near infinity). There is no gemstone you can make that would be able to fit all of the Shardic power inside of it. It's simply impossible. You would have to make a gemstone the size of a solar system, or something like that, to fit near infinite amount of investiture of a Shard in it, but at this point it would simply collapse under its own gravity, crush itself and stop being perfect, thus leaking everything out, back to SR. If it won't collapse, you get to the point when it will start behaving like Nightblood and start leaking everything out, because it's so full of investiture that it can't fit any more. There is no mortal being that can create such a ridiculously enormous object, nor is there a way for them to capture all of the Shardic power. Not to mention the effect investiture has in the physical realm - it’s like matter, it generates gravity and all that stuff. Can you, a person, fit all matter in the observable universe in a single object? No. Just like you can't rob the universe of matter, you can't rob a Shard of his power. The best you can to is to kill its Vessel and Ascend in their place - like we've seen in books. Most WoBs say that Shards have infinite power, there are few that say they don't, still they have so much power that it can be just treated as infinite - it doesn't matter at all at this point. No investiture that is put in any object, any gemstone is lost - it's still part of the system, part of the investiture cycle, part of a Shard. Yes, vines are made out of investiture. Technically, they are like god metals - physical manifestation of Aether's investiture, their body. But how much sense does it make for an Aether, who wants a lot of water, to give you more water than you give to them? It simply makes no sense. Vines won’t provide you with more water than was used to create them. Plus, from Coppermind: So that simply won't work, they don't have much value inside of them. I pointed out for clarification that by compounding Stormlight, you won't be juggling with Honor's investiture, but Preservation's - you can just compound weight instead and it will work in the sam way. A Divine Breath is not a "fuel," it's a Splinter of Endowment investing Returned spirit web and working as innate investiture as it's stuck to their soul. Breaths also are innate investiture, but more physical in nature, Brandon hasn't revealed if Breaths can be stored in F-nicrosil, but he felt conflicted if they can be stolen by a nicrosil spike, because of their physical nature - it's speculated that for the same reason it may not be possible to store Breaths in F-nicrosil (but a nicrosil spike can steal a Divine Breath). As I said, most evidence points to the conclusion that F-nicrosil stores just innate investiture, not static or kinetic - no Stormlight or Mists, just pieces of a soul. Compounding Stormlight is most likely impossible. Yes. My point was that it's still part of the system, it will eventually return to SR. Yes, it's changing forms, but it still is investiture of that particular shard and it will return to it. There is a whole investiture cycle in Cosmere, just like there is a water cycle on Earth. Matter will decay, erode, burn, energy will be used up - all will return eventually back as investiture to SR. And through all of this, it's still Connected and keyed to its Shard, it's still part of it. Even the WoB about using anti-Dor on Dor tells you that the energy released in that will eventually return as Dor.

That's impossible. Shards contain basically an infinite amount of investiture each, but because of their finite mind, they can't touch all of that. So the investiture present in the system is finite, but it comes from an infinite source - you can't drain it. Moreover, per those WoBs above, even if you trap Stormlight in a gemstone for eternity, it's still Connected to the Shard of Honor, it's still of his, it's literally his physical body, part of the Shard. You're removing nothing from the Shard, you don't drain it at all. You would need to Splinter that light off the Shard to remove that Connection - that’s much harder to do (that’s what happened to Atium, Preservation splintered a part of Ruin, separating some of his power away from him). Gemstones can't be soulcasted. I believe it was said somewhere in WoK, but the Coppermind page about Soulcasting references a wrong chapter and I can’t find that quote (or I'm blind - I am). Laws of thermodynamics stops this. Creating vines most likely requires more water then you get from eating it. Your Aether can most likely cut you off the power, just like Spren can do to their Radiants (Syl did that to Kal in WoR arena training). This is a symbiotic bond between sentient entities, Aethers have a lot to say about how their essence is being used. If they don't like it, you don't get to use it in that way. First of all, Compounding Honor's investiture via Allomancy and Feruchemy would draw the power from the Shard of Preservation, not Honor. Secondly, F-nicrosil stores innate investiture - pieces of a soul - not static or kinetic investiture like Stormlight (many WoBs and quotes from books point to this conclusion - investiture in Ars Arcanum doesn't mean just raw power, but also invested arts). In F-nicrosil you can store powers like Allomancy or Surgebinding, which come from innate investiture, a part of your soul. BoM ch 3: Additionally using Stormlight to fuel Allomancy or Feruchemy (like healing from F-gold) would be difficult to accomplish and require special ways to do - as Stormlight is right now, it's incompatible with Metallic Arts. Also, often forgotten fact, compounding takes time. You have to burn metals and this doesn't release power instantaneously, it's just like burning other metals. You have to spend a lot of time burning metals to accumulate your huge, compounded storages. You would first die from old age, before you would be able to compound a fraction of Shardic power. And the more attributes you store, the more metal you need to store it in - you would get to the point where you would require a ton of metals to store attributes you compound, as metalminds can hold relatively small amounts of investiture. Metallic Arts draw too little power to make any difference (even Surgebinding was noted to deal with not much investiture in general). Investiture goes nowhere, it's not draining anything, it's stuck in a cycle, in the system, fueling Aons and going back to the Dor. With this method and once Aons are used up or collapsed, investiture returns back to where it was - to the Cognitive Realm. Moreover investiture on Sel is tied to location because of the nature of Dor being in the Cognitive Realm, so at best you're only draining the Dor near the city of Elantris, not all of it form the entire Selish CR. But still, I don't believe this would work at all - Aons would simply collapse at some point because they would require too much investiture to draw than they can conduct through them. I also doubt Aons can draw another Aons - canon quote please, I don't remember. Investiture is energy and it comes from the Spiritual Realm, which is part of the closed system - energy is conserved. Yes but the light returns to the Spiritual Realm, as all investiture does - it's part of the closed system. Anyway, Shards are infinite, there is no physical thing that can contain infinity, at some point something will break and everything will be released back into the system, while a Shard would barely notice this dent on their infinity. This investiture is not leaving the system, it's still accessible and Connected to Shards.

What do you mean "the spike targets?" It doesn't target anything - you do with your intent. The only thing that matters is to have correct intent and all that wealth Nomad holds is gone. And if the Night Brigade can spike him once that means he's tied to the Hemalurgic table, unable to do anything - they can spike him as much as they need to drain all of his investiture - or just use Larkin/A-chromium. All Nomad can do is punch with more strength. His incredible investment would give him no more power than that, no fancy destruction will come out of his hands, no Surgebinding, just some extra strength, speed and lots of healing - that's it. The Night Brigade has to just restrain him with some Awakened ropes and all his investiture matters no more. They have Shades, they can swarm him with Shades and drain him out of investiture as he tries to heal himself from the withering, until he loses all of his investiture and is vulnerable again. In short, Nomad has some pretty handy defensive capabilities from being more invested, but except for extra strength and speed, he's devoid of any extra offensive powers. The Night Brigade can still deal with him easily, without sweating, no matter how invested he is. And I doubt he can casually get to the levels of the Well of Ascension, there is a limit of how fast he can consume investiture (the sun on Canticle would kill him if he were to consume investiture from it) and what he can do with it. Even Ascension seems to be off the table as it requires certain circumstances - at best he will Ascend like Dalinar in OB, but not like Vin/Rashek with the ability to move planets. It's also possible that holding that much power as a Dawnsliver has some unwanted side effects, as that's the reason Hoid didn't want to hold the power of the Well: The only thing he could do with it is to Awaken without Breaths, but there is nothing in TSM that suggests he knows how to do it and is capable of it. If that's off the table then he can't do anything with all that investiture except for healing and Skipping. He has no other invested ability, no Surgebinding anymore, he can't mimic other powers as that's just raw investiture - he won't become a Shard and be capable of what they are. He's just stupidly invested and that's it. I don't think Nomad will have enough time to drain all the Mists before the Night Brigade comes after him (not to mention doing this would be like placing a giant, glowing arrow above his head, screaming "I'm here"), or Harmony says "wait a minute, you can't do that" and redirects all the Mists away from him. Planets with the most investiture around are the major Shardwords inhabited by Shards, who would be deeply displeased if Nomad tried to destroy all this fancy investiture system they've set up and mess up their plans set up millennia ago. Perpendicularity alone won't be enough to give him that much investiture as only the Well held that much power, regular perpendicularities are much less invested - they can supercharge invested arts but that's it. Vin literally had to consume all of the Mists on Scadrial and that's such ridiculous amounts of investiture that he won't find it anywhere else that easily. Sure, in theory Sigzil might be able to Ascend if he draws enough investiture, but in practice I don't see any reasonable set of circumstances which would lead to this and his Dawnsliver status probably complicates things more than we know.

I think it's just about holding the Dawnshard for longer, so yes, your hypothetical scenario with a time bubble would work. WoBs talk about just holding a Dawnshard, not using it - Rysn can't use it, yet she already is affected by it in some way.

Cohesion is enough on its own to do that. It allows you to shape solids like there were clay and solidify them in that position - and we've seen Venli using it in that way. RoW ch 83: Venli has access to only Cohesion, not Tension. Cohesion allows the manipulation of bonds between atoms (Axi), making things easier to shape. RoW Ars Arcanum: Cohesion allows you to alter shapes by making things like clay, Tension allows you to make things more rigid. The Stoneward from Dalinar's vision was only using Cohesion as after you mold the object to its new shape, it solidifies. In another WoB Peter thinks that the Stormfather statement from that scene is false (he claimed it's a power Dalinar will be able to use, that's Tension), so this is further proof that it was only Cohesion used there.

I know that feeling Welcome to the Shard. Yes, the Coppermind and the Time Machine is a good tool, but it notes that the pages before WoR are bad there, so I don't know how much information is there. I support what Treamayne said, you can start a topic like famed Amira's one (it can be this one, you can rename this topic) and ask questions about things that confuse you - we will answer as best as we can avoiding spoilers for other books. You can go chapter by chapter like Amira did, and present to us your thoughts, or just ask for clarification of what you're missing. We're here to help

You're on the right track, the glyphs are the key. But we don't know many glyphs so it's futile to try to decode their names.

It may be, but for a little bit different reason. Spikes might anchor a soul to the body more firmly (I'm thinking of Kelsier now), so if you got cut perfectly in half, your soul might be more anchored to the side with a spike in it, rather than without. Spikes aren't sd cards, they are different investiture, different identity hotwired into your soul. It's this wiring that might hold it firmly to that part of the body. So instead of a spike attracting a soul after the body is cut, the spike would prevent it from leaving that part of the body - no jumping between halves.