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It's theoretically possible to trap Mists in a gemstone and the word theoretically is the key here - it requires some shenanigans to make it work. Stormlight is extra sticky, it's easy to take and use it to fuel Surgebinding, to inhale it and stuff like this. Mists on the other hand don't do that. They only do that on very special occasions, either directly guided by Shards (Harmony using them to fuel Wax, Preservation setting up the Mists to Snap people) or requiring a very special and Strong Connection - Vin. Normally they are dormant, they don't act like Stormlight at all. Maybe if you were to unkey them, they would be trapped by gemstones. Mists are gaseous investiture. Different investitures have different properties derived from the nature of their Shards. Some are easy to obtain, some are hard. Breaths are also a gaseous form of investiture yet they basically don't exist outside of a vessel. HoA ch 72:

My theory is that Odium will force Dalinar to break the terms of the Contest and get free from Roshar (but Odium doesn't want to leave Roshar). However Odium will kill Dalinar (and I'm hoping he will still be made into a Fused) and deadeye the Stormfather and that will cause endless Weeping with no Stormlight (the Night of Sorrows), flooding Kharbranth which will be interpreted as Odium destroying the city against the oath he made with Taravangian. This will weaken Odium, exposing him to attacks, forcing him to withdraw back to Braize, or maybe even this weakness will be exploited by the Coalition by the end of SA5. To fix the Stormfather I suspect Kaladin will replace Dalinar as the King of Urithiru and later he will Ascend to Honor, but that seems too predictable and too grand. BAM will be released but that won't fix deadeye spren, it will only cause further complications as I suspect she's mad by now. So Odium will win but that will cause his downfall later and by the end of the book the Coalition will find a way to achieve some kind of costly pyrrhic victory, at least reversing the consequences of the Stormfather's death (doing with him what Adolin is doing with Maya and bringing back Highstorms and Stormlight) Those wild speculations were mostly inspired by Death Rattles: We have a WoB from Brandon telling us what to expect, or rather what to don't expect from the SA5 ending and based on that I don't think we'll see anyone fixing and Ascending to Honor yet. Maybe something like a temporary Ascension to a portion of Honor's power at best, but not full Ascention (you know what I'm talking about). It is possible

This has never happened in the past. The Song of Secrets tells us that spren refused to grant Dawnsingers Surgebinding instead they gave them to humans. In RoW ch 67 it was further said that True Spren didn't bond with the Dawnsingers, but they were able to use Surges by singing. The Nahel Bond and Surgebinding powers given by it is something new, that rose from something that has existed before. Moreover Radiants didn't exist before the Heralds were established and given Honorblades by Honor. True Spren only then started to mimic Honorblades and began to give humans the ability to Surgebind, but they were not Radiants yet, later Ishar established Knights Radiant, but this seems to be several Desolations after the First Desolation. Spren didn't give any Surgebinding powers via bonding before Heralds and their Honorblades appeared and this happened after Dawnsinger turned to Odium and Fused were made. Based on that I think Gavilar was simply talking about forms of power. This is further confirmed by the context of Gavilar and Eshonai conversation - he was talking that he knew how to bring Listeners gods back to them and those gods are Fused and Voidspren, givers of Regal forms. He specifically said the Parshmen used to be vibrant because now they are dull, mindless and with no Identity as it was all stolen from them when Mishram was imprisoned. Parshmen were vibrant before that, when they were in their forms of power granted by their gods - Voidspren.

Don't worry, we don't know that either, Identity is something that is not explored well yet, Brandon keeps it for the future books. From what we know it's more like an encryption code that tells stuff "it belongs to you," not literally your personality and who you are. Healing in Cosmere is done by aligning your physical body to your spiritual ideal of yourself, filtered by how you view yourself. Your perception of yourself is the most important thing when you heal and it can allow you to change quite a lot. Your Identity is connected to your spiritual ideal, so changing your identity might affect the way you heal, but your perception will still dominate what's happening. So stealing your Identity won't make you somebody else, but with addition of healing - who knows. At best it will allow you to change your appearance into that person, but I highly doubt you will behave and act like them. However even if you were to steal somebody's identity you still need to truly believe that you are looking like them, otherwise your healing won't change anything. Perception is really important here and that's the hardest part. It's hard to tell if it's an Identity that you need to steal or something else, like the spiritual ideal of that person, which isn't their Identity. WoBs: This last WoB suggests it's not the Identity you have to steal to achieve what you want - blanking or tapping Identity doesn't change your Cognitive or Spiritual Ideal, you need to steal them directly. And while Identity will be helpful here as it tells investiture it belongs to you, but it seems it's not the only thing you need to steal.

We have WoBs that answer this question:

I think the secret of Chana is tied to Ghostbloods and my strong suspicion that Shallan was a Ghostblood as a kid. In the SA 5 prologue Thaidakar said “The things we’ve started are in motion” and that was in the context of giving Gavilar what he wanted, return of Surgebinding - igniting a new Desolation. Ghostbloods somehow were involved in starting the True Desolation and what’s better way to do that than killing a Herald and sending it back to Braize to break? When Shallan’s mother screamed “she’s one of them,” she wasn’t referring to Radiants, she was accusing Shallan of being a Ghostblood. Shallan used a Seon in her childhood, Mraize knows awfully a lot about Shallan’s past and her family, he keeps calling “little knife” because she was a little kid when she joined, or started to worked for Ghostbloods and she was their weapon which started all of this. She remembers using a Seon because she used it to communicate with Mraize. Shallan might have knowingly worked to kill her mother, or she was totally oblivious to Mraize’s manipulations which ultimately put her in the position where she had to kill her mother. While the possibility of Shallan communicating with Seon is on the table, this is too vague and doesn’t touch the problem of Ghostbloods involvement in Shallan’s past. What better way to encourage Raboniel to meet with his babsk then to give her a mechanism to ask to meet with her babsk? Raboniel was given a chain from Threnody as a gift from Mraize. That wasn't a Seon. Fused using Seons to communicate with Braize is just not fitting well. They are most likely sending Voidspren with messages or maybe using some form of the Surge of Transportation, Connection, or their songs. They might even be communicating through Odium directly. Everything sounds better than using Seons. It was said in RoW ch 64 epigraph: Really. Killing your mother, which you've loved dearly, causing your father to go mad and abuse your brothers, which ended up with him banishing one of them, killing your step-mother, crippling your brother and you killing your father isn't something terrible? Sure, it's easy to say that it was in "self-defense" etc, but that's us talking from the outside perspective, with no emotional attachment. I'm not saying she is a bad person, I'm saying that it's fully understandable why she believes she is a terrible person. Self-defense or not, it doesn't matter when she killed her parents and brought misery to her family.

No, altering their identity isn't enough because their perception of themselves will always filter your healing to match their mental image. Even if you knock them unconscious, the way they view themselves is still saved in their spirit web. To do that you would need to mess with their spirit web first and that can be done with Hemalurgy.

That's not how it works. He gets the same powers from both of his highly efficient 5th Ideal spren bond and his inefficient Honorblade, there would be some kind of compounding effect which simply would make him efficient and strong with Surges. It doesn't matter what blade he holds in his hands. WoR ch 87: No, there is no difference here. The third WoB said: "Honorblades are less efficient; this doesn't change when a Herald uses them." The inefficiency comes from Honorblades itself and Heralds also suffer from the same inefficiency. There is no Oaths or Ideal to swear to change that. No. The Recreance happened when Honor was already dying, all nails were in the coffin, the coffin was just being lowered into a grave. The Oathpact isn't like that. It's not like the Nahel Bond and Radiant Ideals, there is no progression or improvement. The Oathpact is a bond forged by Ishar the Bondsmith and Honor. We don't know the details, but it's not like what Radiants have. That's the nature of Cognitive Shadows. They've lived far longer than they should have, this strained their mind and soul and broke them, causing them to go mad. To add even more, they are more similar to spren thus they are susceptible to perception of people about them, which also causes further deterioration. You can see the signs of their madness even in the WoK prelude - Kalak already is showing signs of his future indecisiveness. Oathpact doesn't help them.

Many fabrials in the Tower were indeed added by ancient Radiants to provide more functionality to the city (for example the soulcasting fabrial that created the glass barrier around the crystal heart of the Sibling). Modern fabrials rely on trapping spren, something that the Sibling is unwilling to accept. But Navani for sure will upgrade many fabrials in the Tower by incorporating new discoveries about the metal cage and aluminum - they've already replaced many fabrials in the Tower to make them work again after they moved in, like in elevators. Remaking them "magically" won't happen (depending on what you mean by "magically"). Ancient fabrials are physical manifestations of spren, so at best she will have to explain to those spren to change their form to add new elements, but in the case of aluminum they will have to add it manually as aluminum likely can't be created by spren. Many of those fabrials are the Sibling's body, if Navani will be able to convince the Sibling to change them, they will change it - if it's even needed. There are many advanced fabrials made by the Sibling, more advanced than what Roshar developed on their own, like the suppressor fabrial. Moreover Navani now knows that ancient fabrials are physical manifestations of spren, it still might be problematic to find spren willing to sacrifice for humanity if she wants to add some new fabrials. Communication with those spren might be tricky as well - Navani knew at the beginning of RoW that ancient fabrial have a spren trapped in CR, but they weren’t able to communicate with them. Maybe her new Bondsmith powers will allow her to do that, but she will have to learn this first. However Navani doesn't need to really replace or modify any fabrials, now with her Connection to the Sibling she can just activate all of the Tower's fabrials with Towerlight. That's one crucial thing that was missing before, Towerlight was needed to power those fabrials, not Stormlight. She has full control over them and she already did restore the Tower to its former glory.

Well, TenSoon was wearing 4 spikes and he still remained a Kandra. I think if you know what you're doing, you can give a Koloss more spikes and they will still remain a Koloss - bigger, stronger and probably more mindless, but still a Koloss. However I don’t think Koloss will be able to handle more spikes, 1, or 2, maybe 4 at best - a linchpin spike might be required as with Inquisitors. Inquisitors needed a linchpin spike after their 4th spike, Koloss already have 4 spikes. I think it's also possible that the addition of a linchpin spike would change a Koloss enough so they would no longer be a Koloss, then the answer would be you can't give them more spikes. Unfortunately this is all speculation as we don’t have answers to those questions, it can go either way.

Yes, Honorblades can do more than we've seen till now. Honorblades aren't bound by Oaths like Radiants and their True Spren are. Honorblades aren't like a Nahel Bond, the Nahel bond is like Honorblades - it was Spren who started to copy Honorblades first. One thing Heralds were capable of is drawing power directly from Honor, not needing Stormlight for their Surgebinding - but after Honor's death this is likely no longer possible. However Honorblade are the first generation, the prototypes of Shardblades and because of that they are less efficient (and also less fantastic) - they require more Stormlight to power Surgebinding, they don't heal as well as Radiants can (for example they can't heal spiritual wounds), they can't change their forms and this doesn't change when they are in Herald's hands, thus no oath can change that too. They are tied to the Oathpact but not directly, they are more like a symbol of the Oath Heralds made. Honorblades were even swapped by Heralds from time to time so they aren't even that strongly tied to each Herald specifically. I doubt Heralds can just reswear their Oath and be good - that won't work like it does with Radiants, as they didn't swear Oaths like Radiants do. They were a part of the Oathpact, they made one Oath, forged by Ishar and Honor. The Oathpact is a cage made out of Herald's souls, now it's nearly broken. Oaths aren't needed, even the Stormfather warns Dalinar that with Jezrien's blade he can be more than a Windrunner, nearly like a Herald. We don't know what it even means to be like a Herald, so yes, Honorblades are likely capable of more, but they have some serious limitations in comparison to Shardblades. OB ch 16: WoBs:

This is SA forum only, please put that fragment into a spoiler box with a proper warning. Here is that WoB:

This is important, but that alone doesn't give Dalinar the authority to negotiate in the name of the entire Roshar. He needed to become a leader of the Coalition first. His Connection to the Stormfather and therefore Honor's remnants allow Dalinar to free Odium from Honor's imprisonment. OB ch 57:

No, it's just a title. We know that Tukari God-King is Herald Ishar and Heralds are incapable of leaving Roshar.

Yes and that's innate investiture. Metallic arts come from Preservation's fragment and that's innate investiture. By compounding and later tapping your metalmind you will increase your innate investiture, become more invested and that gives you similar effects to Heightenings in general. And while compounding your Allomantic or Feruchemical powers would make you stronger in those arts, I don't care about it, I only care about how invested will your Preservation's fragment become by tapping all what you've compounded and what passive effects of being that invested you will get. To everybody who doesn't see many uses for heat and F-brass. Feruchemy protects you from some harmful effects of using your powers. Everything that's below the melting point of brass (930 degree C) is a free real estate for you (technically you can also store in liquid metals but it would affect investiture in some way). For people who work with metal it would be a really useful thing. You can literally fuse pieces of aluminum together by melting them in your hands. You can boil water for tea or coffee with no effort - you'll never get wet in rain with F-brass. You can shape plastic like clay with your bare hands. I think it would be fun to have such power - but your wardrobe won't be happy, you either work naked or get used to burning clothes.

Highspren like hierarchy, that's why they are obeying Nale, but Honorspren clearly showed that they will go any lengths to achieve their goals, even if it means imprisoning a Herald. Heralds have only a limited authority among spren and vary depending on their type. Cryptics have a "reputation," they were the first to respond to the incoming Desolation, their society isn't centered around militarism like Highspren or Honorspren's, they likely don't care that much about what a Herald orders them to do.

You've asked for consequences of Splintering of Honor, I gave you them. This "telling people" is in the past. Recreance happened because Honor was dying and wasn't able to perform his duties as he did previously. If he wasn't Splintered, Recreance most likely wouldn't have happened. I have no idea why you brought Cultivation into this particular point. Being a Shard chains you with limitations and rules you have to obey. Bondsmith Unchained can do things that even Shards can't. Honor restricted those things to prevent another Ashyn from happening, but Shards can't just blast a planet into oblivion, they are limited by their nature. Reformed Honor is a much lesser threat than a Bondsmith Unchained, especially if it falls into reasonable hands, like Dalinar. That was not Honor's plan at all. Did you forget, Honor didn't predict that Heralds would break their Oath? Honor assumed that once Heralds go to Braize, Fused and Voidspren would never come back to Roshar as they will be trapped on Braize for an eternity. You can't accuse him of being malicious when he just made a tragic mistake. He was blinded by his Intent. OB ch 38: Because Odium said that once he is freed, he will kill every Splinter of Honor on Roshar and he will Splinter Cultivation as well. That's why this is in the interest of the people of Roshar. Nobody wants to restart Desolations, they need to stop them and bringing back Honor with a fresh Vessel is a first step to finding the ultimate solution that isn't an endless Desolation and the one that doesn't allow Odium, a force that wants the be the only god in Cosmere, to rampage freely among stars. OB ch 57:

Not via Allomancy, but with Feruchemy. F-nicrosil stores innate investiture, you only are using Allomancy for compounding to create huge storages of innate investiture, then you just tap that nicrosilmind.

I think it would be ineffective. You need a way to draw that investiture in and turn it into a healing power and a non-powered individual doesn't have that ability. Even a Coinshot won't be able to use that to heal.

Recreance wasn't a mess? Thousands of dead spren because Honor was too busy dying and was raving instead of assuring Radiants that they will be fine. The limitations placed on Surges by Honor are fading now, Ishar can do crazy stuff because he's unchained now - that's a mess waiting to happen, repetition of Ashyn is now a real danger. Honor's power in the hands of a mortal, the Bondsmith bonded with the Stormfather. It takes just one wrong person over centuries to allow Odium to leave and it will end with a disaster. Odium already has found a way to walk around the Oathpact, without Honor to counteract him he is just one step away from being freed. The contest of Champions doesn't remove Odium as a threat, it gives him permanently half of Roshar. That's a huge mess that never happened when Honor was alive. Restoring Honor puts back some pressure on Odium. It gives him an enemy that will oppose his every action, unite and command humanity and spren against him. Honor will cloud Odium's future sight way better than Renarin can. There are many reasons why restoring Honor is a great idea, doing that to mess with Odium's plans is enough of a reason for me.

Good idea. You just get more invested. You are increasing the innate investiture of your soul and that has massive consequences. You will be harder to affect with Allomancy in general and Warbreaker spoilers: I agree with @Trusk'our that F-aluminum just blanks your identity, you don't store it at all. But without knowing for sure, I will go with Cadmium. Compounding breath isn't that useful in your day to day life.

What does nicrosil and duralumin do? It burns all your burned metals in an instant. If you nicroburst a Nicroburster who is boosting a Coinshot, that Coinshot will still burn all his metals in an instant - it makes no difference for a Coinshot if there is a chain of Nicrobursters boosting each or just one. He literally can't burn his metals any faster.

This topic again Where and when? Right now, as it is at the end of RoW/TLM, both Rosharans and Scadrians can't compete with each other on their home ground. Rosharans can't invite Scadrial as their spren and Radiants are bound to Roshar, unable to leave, their regular troops stand no chance against modern weaponry, while Scadrians can use Metalborns on Roshar, but they also can't leave Scadrial as they have no infrastructure in CR, nor their Metalborns and modern army can reasonably compete against Radiants on Roshar. Right now there is simply no competition at all. However in the future of Cosmere things change, Emberdark spoilers:

I guesstimate the power of the explosion to be comparable to the 2020 Beirut explosion, which had a yield of around 1 kt. That might have instantly melted or vaporized all of his gold and it would have certainly ripped his body to pieces, separating him from metalminds faster than he could have healed. To even consider compounding gold as an option he needed to burn his gold to gain health in the first place, which takes just as much time as burning regular gold (if not longer) and makes you lose gold, as you burn it away. He didn't have infinite healing as he didn't have lots of gold and he couldn't have spent any time burning it to accumulate needed storages of health to tap from because the ship had to be stopped right now, before it could have gone any closer to Elendel.

Disagree. Is the history of the Ottoman Empire separate from Turkey's history? Would you remove the history of HRE, or Prussia before unification of Germany in 1871, saying that it's not Germany because that state didn't exist, nor was it named Germany at that time? But back then it was an empire, nothing like today's state, then it changed into a republic, the 3rd Reich, it was divided into West and East and unified again in 1990. When did the history of modern Germany start? The current iteration of Germany started in 1990 - would you remove everything that was before because those states were vastly different from modern Germany? Where would you draw the line? People form nations. Nations evolve, change, grow or fall with their people. The history of a state doesn't start when its modern iteration began, it starts with its people and rulers far in the past that lived in a state that didn't even share the same name as today's country. It's a continuous history and past iterations of a nation aren't removed from its modern form, they are the predecessors that grew into what's now. Germans lived in Germany before Germany existed, Alethi lived in Alethkar before it existed. They've simply changed, but their past directly shaped them in the modern times. The history of previous states is still their history, even if the name was different.