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  1. Brandon has said there's a difference between dead and mostly dead. We know that there's a time gap between physical death, staying in the cognitive realm and passing on to the Beyond. My take is that Szeth died physically, but was resurrected from the cognitive realm or possibly just as he was passing from it. I think this happened so that, if he was actually bound to the oathstone (which is possible with Honor's binding systems and perception mattering) that bond could be severed. But I have my doubts a fabrial would fully create a cognitive shadow. Whereas returned are true cognitive shadows, their soul is stapled back into their dead body from the Beyond. I believe Szeth, like a Returned, would need a regular intake of investiture to keep his soul stapled to his body and we know Szeth cannot access stormlight any more. Gawx I think was simply healed while he was still fully in the cognitive realm. I can't be sure of that but barring a WoB I haven't seen, I'm pretty confident of that.
  2. @Yata will correct me if I'm wrong but yeah a sliver is someone who has held the power of a shard and released it (TLR, Kelsier etc) but a sliver is (or can be) still alive (Brandon describes it as like a skin filled and stretched from being filled, with the stuff inside then released). A Cognitive Shadow is by definition the shadow of someone no longer alive but who held such a high level of investiture while they were alive that their soul was permeated by investiture and kind of copied, like a petrified tree where the wood is replaced with stone.
  3. I am sorry. As far as bad metaphors go, it was a bored ghoul in law school with a maw full of raw stool awful. Poor fool.
  4. This is a question that had a lot of theorizing on here for a while but we did get handy word back in November. But her ability to physically interact with him may be a different matter, I'm not sure if that is the nature of his type of spren or due to her being more in the Cognitive Realm (which we know she is).
  5. I've had a bit more search on this and found a couple of WoBs that may be relevant. Bold for my emphasis. I feel from those that the Evil is the result of the death of Ambition, the release of investiture into the system and that investiture developing a form of Cognitive Shadow-style semi-sentience, but a corrupted version. Now Fain life may be the result of a similar thing since it talks about two gods dying and corruption coming out of them. This could be a similar example of corrupted investiture from a dead Shard. I feel they're described somewhat differently and I don't understand really since Fain was pre-Shattering, while I feel the Evil is a direct result of ambition's death. But they could definitely be related. I too am concerned with the timeline. But maybe it took many thousands of years for the corrupted investiture to gain enough sentience, or spread through the system, or something else intervened more recently to change it.
  6. It's my favorite story ever (mostly) written but I certainly don't begrudge your lack of interest. For me the pure beauty of the prose and the poetic (or for Kvothe's tastes, musical) quotes capture me like nothing else. I like an unreliable and dislikable narrator, I think it takes remarkable skill to write a character so talented, so flawed and so arrogant and make you 'like' him, but in the way @Mr. Staccato describes. And just the preway emotion in it. As Rothfuss' partner in Unattended Consequences says, they are books that don't need death and horror to make you sad, he can make you weep over a boy losing his shirt or (more significant spoiler alert) But oh the beauty of the narrative. The way every word is perfect. The way he can write most of a chapter in rhyme without it being corny or, in my case, without me even realizing in my first two readings.
  7. Not to raise my own flag but belief was one of my first suggestions on this very long thread, back on March 2. I agree with the idea and think it's quite likely, more as consistency of viewpoint than true blind faith, but I think it's an important one. I think you're a bit harsh on Revolution but I tend to agree with you that it's the most unlikely. I also agree that these all being actual Shards is unlikely and that the divisions won't be so even and opposing. But I still think this thread is great for prompting ideas and that some of these ideas will turn out to be right especially @Khyrindor's, @ZenBossanova's and (perhaps) mine.
  8. Superbly crafted theory. I'll be very curious to see if others come up with problems with it, I can't actually see any even if it depends on each supposition being correct and some of them aren't certain. It would explain why Khriss says this Khriss is a scholar but probably quite a moral one. If she didn't think there were useful, morally-acceptable uses for it I think she would describe it differently to being of great interest and with great possibilities. (And I agree there is no inherent evil to it, based on this and numerous statements by WoB that not Shards/investiture is inherently evil).
  9. A dead Shardblade in the Everstorm is a mandrake's handshake with a branflake pancake.
  10. One thing we have against the first point is this from Khriss Now she may be wrong of course but unconcerned approach and prehistory doesn't sound like it's likely. I've definitely seen the regional splinters discussed on here but I don't think there's a WoB confirming it? Just that it's regional because it's cognitive. But I for one tend to like the theory. I like a fair bit else of what you've said but I feel the timeframes are off unless Khriss is wrong. The confirmation that the killing of Aona and Skai was shortly after the Shattering tends to confirm that. But @Oversleep i like the analysis. Seems to make sense to me with the White Sand timeframe. Edit - erp ninja'd again!
  11. Oh lord you're right, I flat out forgot about that (and failed to notice Weltall's point) I should really sleep and stop posting well the letter is written to someone on Yolen, the assumption is Frost, so yeah seems much more likely to be Frost (whether a Shardholder or not).
  12. I like that @ZenBossanova, I like the iterations of this. Even if they're not right I feel the analysis gets better and better this thread. And I'm inclined to agree with your tidying of it @Khyrindor. Just a note on names, I'd say charisma would be Persuasion and Feel would be empathy. Again I don't feel comfortable these are all likely Shards, I think they won't be such natural opposites, but I'll be surprised if there aren't some matches with this thread's grouping and balancing if Intents.
  13. I e wondered if, should there be a Shard sponsoring the Seventeenth Shard, it would be Autonomy. They think the Shards were separated for a reason and should stay separated. Sounds pretty consistent with Autonomy interfering and possibly undermining other Shards. I guess She could want other Shards but I feel she's probably about 'freeing' peoples from other Shards, except perhaps Herself.
  14. Yeah the most recent signing had this So I think Harmony is high on the hit list but because of his power probably not someone Odium is planning on going after immediately. Even if he escapes at the end of the first Stormlight arc. Autonomy seems to play a very long game and I'm guessing is a big long term threat, but maybe my enemy's enemy principle is what keeps them from attacking each other.
  15. Argh I'm sorry I typed that totally not paying attention. One too many wines. I meant to use the WoB to show its a big exhausting thing to Shatter a Shard. My theory is because of that, and because there were two of them, and probably because he wanted to go after Ambition after, he saved some energy by stuffing them in the cognitive realm rather than Splintering them properly. My bad.
  16. I like it. I mean I'd need more to be convinced but I do like it. But for me this was always the reason he stuffed them into the cognitive realm He did so because he was already weak from splintering Ambition and that was easier than properly splintering two more Shards. No proof, but that's my suspicion. Doesn't mean there's not more to it but says hecwasn't necessarily being cruel, just tired and lazy.
  17. Good question! Luckily we have a recent statement from Brandon! So it was the nature of the Shard and the fact that Ambition is, understandably, a strong intent to rival Odium.
  18. OMG not enough upvotes available for these two. Especially the first, but also Kobol for best show ever.
  19. That's probably right, I do keep thinking of the universally usable ones as medallions and unkeyed as like the goldmind Wayne could use but you're probably right about this WoB referring to what I think of as medallions. Either way though I don't think any WoBs prove anything. Mainly because of the older one I still lean towards him having acquired feruchemy but there's no proof either way. One reason he's unlikely to have it is simply that without having been spiked we know of no way he could be a feruchemist. I think the evidence is very mixed for this issue. I won't be at all surprised if he doesn't, and I also won't be surprised if he does (though i would then desperately want to know HOW he does).
  20. Oh I am sorry @Argent, when you posted those I didn't notice the explicit confirmation that it is not from Silverlight and in doing the post I just did I failed to look again. My bad
  21. Just a correction on this (unless you've seen something more recent - but this is from the most recent signing) So the perspective could be from Silverlight and is a 'better' guess than Yolen. His wording makes me think it's neither but then he is tricksy.
  22. Yeah that's a fair interpretation as well and I'm not wedded to either. The only thing I'd note with your explanation is when you say the power has to mimic the feeuchemical charge to reach you. I don't think it has to, necessarily. So it can bypass the feruchemical charge. But I do agree that your explanation about the power not having reached you yet is plausible, and probably more likely.
  23. I felt sure I'd seen a WoB stating he's not but after a thorough search I think I'm wrong. But we have these. The first is from 2013 and I'm not convinced by it, i think it's paraphrased and may have been misinterpreted. The second casts doubt. But then we have this from the very latest signing. So that says to me he probably has some feruchemy unless he has them just in case. I'm still not convinced but I'm now leaning towards him being a feruchemist, or at least ferting. And now I think about it the WoB I was thinking of is that he doesn't have hemalurgy.
  24. We know there were three sentient species. We know it's the origin of humans and we know that it had dragons. I don't believe we know what the third race is (of course I haven't read Dragonsteel though). So it theoretically could be Aimians. I've seen nothing to indicate it would be but I can't rule it out. Edit: gadzooks, ninja'd! Nice work on that reddit one @Cryokina, i hadn't seen that before. I mean it's pure RAFO but I still hadn't seen it. We see the Shodel in Liar of Partinel but they certainly did not seem like Aimian from the brief encounter we get. But yeah I haven't regarded the appearance in Liar as giving away too much because it isn't canon.
  25. Agreed,they're repellent. Poor conduct. I give a negative review. Totally uncoul. omb.
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