Thanatos

I think Brandons God of the Beyond is like the Gnostic God in Pleroma. And the Cosmere and other galaxies in the universe is the demiurge universe of the Gnostics.

Does she use time dilation techniques like Hoid? Didnt know that.

Isnt there a WoB saying once investiture is used up (metals, stormlight, breaths etc) it goes back into the system and is reused. Wouldnt deinvesting be the same?

Just talking to my lil bro and he said something interesting. Is Khriss a disciple of Autonomy? I found this fascinating. As she is of an autonomous nature. And how did she become immortal

Or Harmony probably invested the unbalanced Ruin power in the people of Scadrial

If the Scadrial system and all its people were destroyed would Harmony be at full power. Aka both the old shards Preservation and Ruin (now Harmony) would get back its invested investiture. I think so. What do you guys think.

Calderis, cheers did not realize Harmonium was known.

What if Trell is Sazed. And having two opposing shards has made him schitzo. Both personalities are not aware of the other and Trillium is really Harmonium.

This is the part:

So if the CR on Sel is chaotic and deadly, do the cognitive shadows of the dead get ripped apart before going to the Beyond?

Ohh its a bullet holster, sorry not a gun guy. Thought it was a gun holster. I like the spren gun with ball bearings, add gravitation manipulation and thats pretty much a working gun. Said spren gun doesnt need to be of many parts just a basic rendition to fit the dense bb's. Hell it doesn't need to be a spren gun if your using gravity manipulation, just a gun. And she can soulcast the dense ball bearings on the run. Wait... can Jasnah manipulate gravity? Maybe this would be better for Kaladin

So if Jasnah has a gun holster could she have a gun? And if so could she soulcast bullets?

Nah BoM is a metal mind. The way i see it, to store 10 mins you need to lose 10 mins. Aka to gain 100 years you need to lose 100 years.

Fair enough

Is there a duraluminum increase % as canon? like steel push × ???(amount) Never heard any WoB confirmation but then i may not have read them all

I think Marasi burning cadmius and duraluminum could shoot them a good deal in the future. if not far enough to era 4 then repeat the process till they get there.

So metal is the fuel now? I thought you denied this? Thanatos Edit. Nevermind it was stormlight not metal.

Sorry but again Coppermind: Like Terrismen, Feruchemy and Breath is built into their very being from conception. Terrismen the race and the people from Sel as a whole (as we know it). Aka, refer to OP three part graph ... Edit. Yell me where im wrong in the Coppermind that contradicts WoB.

Extesian What part of what I have quoted on the Coppermind is wrong? Not subjective but wrong? I agree. No argument there. Still think the Coppermind is correct here. Brandon has not corrected it in any WoB. 'A focus is a specific magic-related term in the Cosmere, it is the method by which Investiture can be formed into magical effects. Magic systems and magical engineering use these focuses to filter Investiture into a magical effect.[1] The focus is determined by the interaction of the Shardworld and a Shard but the World is the key factor and all magics will use the focus in some way, how it is used is determined by the interaction of the Shards.' Yata, Like I said, only the ones chosen by Preservation could absorb the Mist, just like Breath. Only Endowment gives all the skill. Given her intent is 'Endowment!!' I still dont see how my way of looking at things is against what we know to date. Edit: So the Atium part as being the same as Breath and Stormlight . {my response for some reason didnt go through on this.} A renewable source: Breath, Well of Ascension, Atium. We dont know what this renewable source is for Honor, Cultivation, and the dead ones Ambition, Dominion, Devotion. The renewable source still does not go against my way of looking at things. From how I see it, Uncle Andy investiture is the way of fueling/focusing the power of a Shard.

Spoolofwhool, My opinions are based on the facts we know. Are you saying the Coppermind is wrong? I think the inference is there. Otherwise it would say that Honor or Cultivation creates Stormlight. As it fuels both powers/abilities. Brandon would change or advise it if that were untrue. That exactly what i referred to in my OP. The middle area is of Uncle Andy. aka, Metal, Colour, Stormlight. These things would have been around prior to Uncle Andy being shattered. And if he created everything in the Cosmere than he created these things. Calderis, As i said in the above most. Brandon has said many times that everything in the Cosmere is of Uncle Andy. I say the Shards use that to their advantage. Thats determined by the Spren that bonded with the person. Same with Metal, depends on the connection (Lerasium, Misting. Whatever the person has access to gets the power so long as the burn the correct metal). This is my point! Read above. No, Stormlight is the fuel/focus of the powers/abilities already obtained by the user. As far as im aware the Copperminds don't contradict the way things are (Cosmere wise)

Just real quick as im playing a game with my little bro> As per the Coppermind: 'Awakening uses Breath and color drawn from non-living material as fuel while commands determine what effect is created.' 'Stormlight is a form of Investiture brought by the Highstorms of Roshar.' Highstorms that were created prior to Honor and Cultivation arriving at the planet. 'A focus is a specific magic-related term in the Cosmere, it is the method by which Investiture can be formed into magical effects. Magic systems and magical engineering use these focuses to filter Investiture into a magical effect.[1] The focus is determined by the interaction of the Shardworld and a Shard but the World is the key factor and all magics will use the focus in some way, how it is used is determined by the interaction of the Shards.'

This thread is mainly about the Fuel/Focus needed to power a Shards given ability. Was on another thread but it was kinda derailing it. I quick rundown on my understanding: Person - Fuel/Focus - Shardic Conection. For example using the above three parts: Elend - Metal - Lerasium or Lerasium Alloy. or Terrismen - Metal - DNA (from their original creation) or Marsh - Metal - Bindpoints/Blood. or Vasher - Colour - Breath. or Kaladin - Stormlight - Spren. Without the fuel/focus then they cannot access the shards investiture to use the ability bestowed upon them. Looking at the list it appears that the fuel/focus is something created by Uncle Andy. For Mistborn the metals on Scadrial is the same composition as the metals on the other planets as a Mistborn can use the native metals of another plant to fuel their Allomantic abilities. Meaning Preservation and Ruin created them using the blueprint of Uncle Andy's creation. We cannot discuss Devotion and Dominion as their Shards are trapped in the CR, so their not inhabiting all three realms. -- Edit: Preservations Mist is not like Stormlight as only a chosen one of Preservation can use them. Other Mistborns and Mistings cannot use the Mist. Plus Stormlight is not of Honor.

Ill create a new thread so we dont keep derailing this one as soon as this ep of SG1 is finished.

As per the coppermind: 'Furthermore, color is drained from nearby objects as fuel for the Awakening process. This can manifest, for example, as a red scarf being bleached grey. The Breaths can be recovered from the Awakened object (in some cases), but the color drain is permanent.' colour is the fuel. Edit. Apologies for derailing the thread. Also Uncle Andy is a term my little bro came up with. He got tired of say Adonalsium all the time so shortened the name for ease during conversations. 2nd edit. Last one sorry. As per coppermind for Surgebinding: 'In addition to being fuel for Surgebinding, Stormlight...' so its confirmed that; 1. Metal is fuel for Mistborns. 2. Stormlight is fuel for Surgebinding. 3. Colour is fuel for BioChromatic. The Dor is different as the shards are trapped in the CR. We dont know how it worked prior to Dominion and Devotions shattering.

Metal powers the connection. Without it you have no powers. Its the conduite to Preservations investiture. Think of it like this: Person - Fuel - Access to Shards investiture (aka ability). Elend - Metal - Lerasium. Kaladin - Stormlight - Spren. Vasher - Colour from nearby objects - Breath. For a person to gain the ability they need to first have the access to the investiture. Then they need the fuel to use the ability they gain. Mistborn or Mistings can still use metal from other planets. With Breath, if theres no colour around, things like awakening would not work. Colour is the fuel.