Kingsdaughter613

Thanks! I think my parents deserve the most credit; without them she would never be where she is. They’re awesome. It was just really nice to see that kind of interaction in a book that isn’t specifically about that sort of relationship. It’s a very rare thing and I thought it was done really well. I love how Adolin treats Maya here because it’s just how I want people to treat my girl. And all the Spren reactions are just like all her pessimistic doctors. So this was really, really touching for me. I hope someone on here knows how to contact Brandon and can forward the message for me. These are totally going to be my favorite chapters.

I’ve not gotten far in part two, but I want to put this here (and maybe some one can tell me how to forward it to Brandon?) Brandon: As a mother of a child with severe cognitive delays, I want to tell you thank you. Thank you for the scenes of Adolin and Maya. Thank you for showing his belief in her and her understanding. Because the doctors told me my big girl would never be capable of anything. Would never know or understand the world. But she smiles when she sees me and her big brother. And she has a rivalry with her little sister. And today she lifted her hand onto her crackers because she wanted one. Everyone here talks about how well you show mental illness. But no one talks about how well you portray what it’s like to have a child with cognitive disabilities, which is almost never shown. So thank you for showing it here.

It’s in BoM. “Wax found himself smiling. This was what Lessie had wanted. They’d joked time and time again about their simple Pathian ceremony, finalized on horseback to escape a mob. She said that someday, she’d make him do it proper.”

Burning metals. That’s what does it. Mistborn (and Mistings) are only Invested when actively burning. IF they are killed while burning metals, then they can briefly resist the pull of the Beyond. Kell was burning Malatium when he died. And Elend was being pumped with Investiture by Vin. If they died in their sleep, while not burning, they would have faded away as quickly as everyone else. So unsnapped Mistings/Mistborn cannot be burning metals and fade at the same rate as anyone else.

Mistborn aren’t invested. If they are burning metal they’re Invested. So no, an unsnapped Mistborn would not be burning metal and thus not be Invested.

Likely. I call the Inspire group ‘Drive’ which means the same thing here. I keep going back and forth on which Odium is, and ended up deciding: more Void = Survive; more Passion = Drive/Inspire. This is also where I put the theorized Ingenuity shard, if it turns out to exist. Devotion I put with Honor and Dominion as part of Unity/Bonds. Honor - bonds of morality, code and society; Dominion - bonds between master, land and subject; Devotion - bonds between people, places and beliefs. Devotion was originally called Love, I think, and love is usually viewed as a bond. This is also where I put the theorized Wisdom shard; bonds of scholarship, learning, and teaching. The one I’m least certain of is Endowment. We keep putting it in Change, but I’m not sure that’s really where it goes. The only two we can really be sure of are Cultivation and Ruin with Change.

Ruin is Entropy though, and it’s hard to argue that’s anything but change. Odium seems to be almost the opposite; when people give up their pain they lose their ability to change. Further, you gain the ability to pick up Ruin by accepting the need for end and understanding that the inevitable end does not have to be a sorrow. It’s the Death card; it’s change. Odium is the refusal to move on, the unwillingness to forgive, the refusal to give in. When love is gone, and faith is gone and hope is gone, hatred can keep you alive. It will leave you hollow, and empty, and a shell of what you were, but it will keep you ALIVE if only to spite your enemies. Ruin is standing by your infant girl’s bedside and knowing she may never awaken. Never smile, never laugh. And readying yourself to make the hardest choice a parent can make: to allow her to live senseless but for pain, or give her a peaceful, quiet end. When you understand that endings can be necessary; can be good, however painful - that’s Ruin. (She woke up, btw. despite reading brain dead for three days. Still not well, but slowly getting there. She’ll be four on Thanksgiving.) Odium is my great-grandmother looking around at her dozens of descendants and saying, with a satisfied smile, “Hitler didn’t win.” Well, some forms of vengeance are more productive than others. My children are my revenge. My community is my revenge. The voices of children speaking our sages words - that’s Odium. Not just hatred toward our oppressors, but it is definitely a form of revenge, along with everything else. I think a lot of chronically ill people could pick up Ruin. I think a lot of survivors of oppression could pick up Odium. I could probably pick up either, but I could also take Cultivation because I’m a mom, and I think most parents could pick up that one. I think I’m putting Odium back in Survive. Although it can also drive you to accomplish...

It was more that you mentioned my theory, so I figured I’d clarify it.

I was the one who theorized about pushing/pulling and internal/external. Devotion was in the Unite one, which was argued. “Just wants to survive” was actually theorized to go there too, if it was actually something like Wisdom. That theory held that your green category was something like drive; Inspire works well. Of Ingenuity is a Shard, it likely goes there. Odium was argued to either go there, or in Survive. It depends on if Odium is more passion or more void. Endowment is more positive, actually. I had it internal originally, but the arguments for it being external were very compelling.

The Jewish opinion of any Vatican translation tends to be pretty low. Most Christian bibles are triple translations; they start with the Septuagint, translated into Latin, translated into English. Kind of amazing that any part of it is accurate, lol! In general, English does not have the right nuance as old Hebrew words tend not to have perfect translations. I usually use the Artscroll Rashi and Ramban translations. Rashi and Ramban were biblical commentators, and they had slightly differing interpretations of the words. (Hence two different translations.) A third source would be the Ibn Ezra, who had his own opinions. I don’t think they’ve translated that one though. Ramban tends to cite the other two though, so that helps. The only perfect translation is Onkelus, as far as Judaism is concerned, but he wrote in Aramaic so I doubt that helps! You really can’t understand Genesis without commentary. Or even with commentary. Just try to conceive of an evening... without the concept of day. Because that’s day one. Evening was created first. “And it was evening and it was morning; One day.” Can you imagine a night without the concept of day? And that’s why trying to figure out Creation is a great way to go mad. Commentaries help though. Also great ways to discover things you never knew. Bet your local minister never explained exactly how Adam figured out he needed a female of his own species... The Bible has some really weird stuff hidden in it.

I was technically transliterating according to the ancient Hebraic language it’s written in, if we want to be really technical, as Old Hebrew does have a Saph. Lol. Ha! That sounds cute. More people probably learn the the Ramban than the Rambam in reality, due to the former writing an extensive Biblical commentary. Interestingly, the Ramban did play a role in introducing the Rambam to Europe.

I transliterate according to the way I pronounce it, usually. And there’s no dagesh in the word Bereishis, so it actually isn’t a Taph. It’s a Saph, or a Taph without a dagesh. The pronunciation difference has to do with how you pronounce the letter. The ‘first day’ thing is a personal peeve. It’s ‘one day’ because until the second day was created there was only one. There’s not even a CONCEPT of two, and by calling it ‘first ‘ you completely miss the point that the entire IDEA of a day was created - and it was created as a unique thing. The Ramban is always fun. Especially THAT Ramban.

Wow. I did not realize the translations were this bad. There was only ONE act of creation: the very first word Bereishis (Nachmanides). After God creates the Beginning, every other act is separation. The building blocks of everything were created with the word Bereishis, and the rest was separating out those blocks and putting things into the forms as we know them. Only the first word was Creation from nothing. And these translations are pretty bad. I already knew about the misinterpretation of Bereishis Barah Elokim. And how Yom Echad ever became the First Day is beyond me. It’s ONE day. But the others I was no aware of. Suggestion: before quoting the Bible check the original source? Translations of a translation of a translation tend to be fairly unreliable.

I’ve been trying through inter-library loan. No luck yet...

Technically, Dawnshard is a NOVEL.

You said it yourself: since Secret History. And the first time we really delved deep into identity was the Emperor’s Soul. The novellas are the info dumps.

Read the prose. It’s better anyway. They weren’t great comics. You shouldn’t be prejudiced against an entire genre though. Why don’t you like comics? (And if you say it’s because they’re childish, then I have just one word for you: MAUS. I may have issues with people claiming comics are for kids and/or not real literature. MAUS is better than a whole lot of regular books out there, and it’s definitely not for kids.) My least favorite Sanderson book is WoA, but it’s definitely better on reread.

Someday I will figure out why people think psychotics can’t plan or think logically. Within the context of their madness they can be very sane. For example: the psychotic man who believes he’s in love with an actress, and that she will return his fervor if he murders a world leader, is perfectly capable of planning an assassination. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hinckley_Jr. It’s entirely possible that Ishar believes himself a god. That doesn’t mean he’s not capable of conceiving a perfectly reasonable, logical, intelligent plan within that context. It’s just that the logic wouldn’t make sense to those outside his perceived reality. But you can definitely see a logical path. There’s a story that allegedly happened with Milton Erickson. He was introduced to a man who thought he was Jesus. Milton promptly said, “Oh, so you’re a carpenter.” As this gentleman genuinely believed he was Jesus, he answered in the affirmative. Milton promptly commissioned him. Within a year, the man was out and running a carpentry shop. So long as you didn’t question him about religion, he was perfectly sane. (And yes, he still thought he was Jesus.) I honestly don’t know if the story is true, but it certainly sounds like Milton Erickson. And you can definitely work within the psychosis of some psychotics to achieve better outcomes. Their thought process isn’t nearly as illogical as it may appear. It’s just that their perception of reality is so at odds with ours, that it seems nonsensical. But it really isn’t.

You’re welcome!

Let’s just hope we can avoid the whole appropriation “it’s not your religion anymore and since you don’t like our variant we’re going to murder you repeatedly for the next 2000 years or so” thing that happened IRL, right?

“Her”. Chiri-Chiri is a girl.

Actually, Dox is going to be female in the movie adaptation. I’m disappointed; I think Marsh would have been a more intriguing choice. Nice picture!

I’d argue he’s being smart. Why waste his forces? Let Emul and the Singers battle it out, then sweep in and claim the spoils from the weary victor. All he needs to do is defend his own borders and be patient.

That was in the movie, where Dox was a girl.

Or ahead.The current Jewish year is 5781, for a RL example.