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Also, it is unlikely that Odium had any "magic system"; prior to the Fused and (possibly) Voidbinding. From the Coppermind: So, when a Shard Invests in a world/system (which may include creating an Avatar in that location), by using their power to affect the world, their power creates the magic systems associated with that investiture (can be either deliberate or accidental). Since Odium was moving though systems while deliberately Not investing in them, he was also not creating any magic systems powered with his investiture - until Honor bound him to Roshar and he had no choice but to invest in Braize - which started the process of creating Odium's investiture systems there and on Roshar. Just because Cohesion is the only surge we have evidence of Singers using before the arrival of humans does not mean that was the only surge to which the Dawnsingers had access. From what we know of pre-Emigration Ashyn, the Magic was already present (possibly Honor/Cultivation, since they were already in teh Rosharan system; but also possibly remnants from pre-Shattering) - Odium was just messing with people like Ishar to tempt them into creating the destruction that eventually occured. Words of Brandon:

I think it's likely that the Luhel Bond is also what is happening with Aviar and Purelake Fish. Where the Nahel Bond is between two Sapient individuals (Spren and person/Singer), the Luhel bond may be a bond where at least one side is Sentient, but not Sapient (or is seeking sentience/guidance). It also may be possible that the Mandra Bond for a Chasmfiend or Larkin is, technically, a Luhel Bond rather than a Nahel Bond.

RIght, I would say that AonDor is able to manipulate surges - but I would not call AonDor a form of Surgebinding. They are similar - with differences being more about the culture and biology of the Surgebinders than differences in the Magic systems. Though, Voidbinding may be a tiger of a similar, related, or different stripe. Well, since Stormlight is a thing of the Highstorms (which is a thing of Roshar); I, personally, am more comfortable referring to the pre-Emigration Magic of Ashyn as Surge Manipulation. The lack of Spren and Light, to me, indicates enough of a difference to warrent a variant term even if they are working with the same forces. At least until we learn more (which is unlikely to happen until we get to Taln's or Ash's book in the back 5).

So that WoB, plus the ones I posted, plus this (Sel Spoiler): Tells me that some magic abilities (Lightweaving - the power of Illusion; Elsecalling - the power of Translocation; Bondsmithing - the power of Connection) are abilities that are inherent to many magic systems, and can use the same terminology; but may differ in specifics. Sel Spoiler

Do you mean these WoBs? What I meant was the part where he says "Different Magic Systems, same principals"

Since the Dor is a combination of the investiture of both Dominion and Devotion - I've always felt that Dominion was expressed by the Spiritweb Connection to a country/geographic region/culture (only Aonic "peoples" undergo the Shaod - and Dulas or Teos have to be in Arelon to be taken); and Devotion is expressed by who is selected (at least during and post-Reod). Not that we have anything near a significant sample size, but looking at some notables for whom we have enough information: Raoden - Devoted to the people of Arelon Galladon - Devoted to his farm so much he built his house by hand Taan - Devoted to Sculpting Shaor - Does Narcissism count as Devotion to herself? Karata - Devoted to her family and the Children Saolin - Devoted to Eondel and the Army Mareshe - Devoted to Artistry and Craftsmanship etc. It could be that the "Fabrial" is the Five Cities' Aon Rao helping channel the Dor to select people with enough Connection to Devotion (based on thoughts and actions) and Dominion (based on the Connection to being Aonic) to undergo the Shaod.

Well, we know that before the devastation of Ashyn, they manipulated Surges. Part of the definition of Sugebinding is the "binding" and we know that they didn't have Spren or the Spren Bond on Ashyn*. We also don't know if it was the same 10 surges, less or more than 10, or just a different set altogether. Both systems might legitimately be called Surgebinding. But it's mostly semantics to say either they are the same system or possibly related systems (or separate branches of an over-all system). I, personally, consider them to be different, but related, systems of Investiture. My personal opinion, based on current known information, is that it was a version of Microkinesis that caused the devastation. That may have been the only Surge they could manipulate, or just one of multiple surges to which they had access. We know Khriss considers Microkinesis to be related to, and much stronger than, Cohesion. We also know that, at least in the unpublished material, Microkinesis was able to cause a fission reaction pre-Shattering. Something like that would fit with what we know of the event(s) on Ashyn pre-emigration. *Note:

This Scene? WoA Ch 17: It can take a bit of practice visualizing the three-dimensional orchestration of the fight. On my first read through, I think I backed up and read this passage a second time (same with the fight with Shan in TFE) to make sure I was following the action. For me, it also helped to visualize the Keep: So, you may recall from TFE when Vin attended the Ball at Keep Hasting, the Keep has a hexagonal shape with a tower at each vertex and the Keep's tower is in the center. Walls run from the vertices to the center, rather than along the perimeter. The action takes place mostly near two tower walls and the three towers that form the points of the "open bottomed triangle." Visualizing the structures really helped me to visualize the described action.

I wouldn't be surprised if the physical manifestations of the Evil is Fain - but since a Splinter may be composed of a mixture of investiture from two or more Shards, I wonder if the entity "Evil" is actually a Splinter that is comprised of both Ambition and Odium's investiture. Coppermind:

I would quibble some semantics, but it's a decent general spoiler-free overview. I'll supplement with some definitions (especially the easily confused ones). Also spoiler tagged so you can decide if you would rather know now or RAFO: Note: Some terms are used incorrectly by characters in books (unreliable narrators) because, like we-the-audience, they are also trying to figure out what the storms is going on.

What if part of the effects of either Silver and/or Aluminum is dependent on whether the Investiture is Static or Kintetic? Another possibility, Silver affects the ability of Investiture to cross realms (e.g. Shades mostly reside in the Cognitive, so Silver is repulsing/reversing their effect in the Physical)

It could also be Hoid's poetic reference to Fortune - the Spirit Realm Mechanic - being anthropomorphized.

I also thought Fort was Rock for a while (SA): But then as we find out the food isn't bad because it's the dregs; but because Fort is a horrible cook (even if the best on the crew) I realized Rock would never be that bad at serving food - no matter the ingredients.

I'll answer this in a spoiler tag, so you can decide how much you really want to know (many of the answers span this book and Oathbringer) Tidbits on the Shards are doled out in most Cosmere books, with Stormlight Archive having the most information on them We don't know much about Adonalsium - first mention was Mistborn book 3 - Hero of Ages We are just starting to get information on the Aethers - you can request a copy of the unpublished non-canon Aether of Night here, but it is old and not canon. Many peices of it were moved into other Cosmere works, Still cool, but much has changed since Sanderson wrote this early draft 20ish years ago The nature of Investiture is in every series (even if the characters in-story don't use that word). For example, Surgebinding is an expression of Investiture on Roshar. A lot of information here comes from the Ars Arcanum from each book/series. By Series: Then, of course there is the Coppermind and Arcanum. Once you are not worried about spoilers, much of these topics and concepts are explained in the Coppermind Wiki, with links to the Arcanum when a source is one of the Words of Brandon from an event, signing or Q&A. (links should go to something non-spoilery for you now) One topic I can possibly shed some light on, since it almost exclusively comes from Q&As and doesn't really spoil any of the individual stories, is part of the nature of Investiture: From Wikipedia

How much of the Stormlight Archive have you read?

Depends on what you mean by "modern." Do you mean "will they have the combustion engine and airplanes" or "how would a Fabrial version of modern automobiles and airplanes function?" For example, I doubt they would ever have Skyscrapers (by modern Earth standards) due to the Highstorms or combustion engines (high oxygen environment means a Stormlight driven means of locomotion would probably be both safer and more reliable).

I imagine even if you could put somebody else's Identity in place after blanking your own, the result would be like a fun house mirror: A distorted identity laid over a warped and deformed spiritweb (i.e. changing identity wouldn't repair the spirit web deformities since ID is only 1 "node" on the spirit web, rather than your spirit web being a component of your ID).

But also, Re-Shephir doesn't seem to be the only source of Midnight Essence on Roshar. TWoK Chap 19:

Spoilers for Mistborn Era 2 - including TLM So the events of Tress have to be significantly later than Mistborn Era 2. I also think the "audience" is on First of the Sun - and the timing is either shortly before or shortly after the events of SotD. Also, the mention of the Iriali may imply Which places the events of the story at least 300 years after the events of the Stormlight Archive

I thought that Ulaam's appearance was because (Sel) I actually bit off on thinking that was his origin until it became obvious he was a Kandra

The trees had been dying and dehydrating for months under the ashfall. . . . . . but let's just agree to disagree since there seems to be no way to confirm either of our theories until we get a WoB that says what AU distance the planet was under Rashek's orbit.

Amira - For context, those spoilers are in reference to the events of Kaladin and Szeth meeting again and the aftermath. Agree with @Frustration - I liked Szeth through TWoKs (slightly less in WoR). Echoes of Crying Freeman aside, I was always looking for more info on Szeth's backstory.

It would be prudent; since, at the least, it tells people who have not read the work that portions of the work may apply to how Aviar powers work. . .

But the 30% Albedo calculation doesn't account for earth's atmospheric affect on temperature, since the same calc (1367 * (1-0.3) / 4 = ) would give only ~239 W/m² and would far short of actual temperature at surface (about 14C). So, if 14C worth of solar energy is adjusted and regulated by the atmosphere to create the diverse temperatures and environments we experience - then a similar ratio appied to a similar atmosphere at the orbital location for Venus would get somewhere in the area of 77C as a daytime, equitorial temperature. But this is all tangential to the idea that the TFE orbit was < .75 AU, which still has no evidence other than a skewed artistic rendering.

From which source do you get this figure? Just based on distance from the sun, and discounting the atmosphere entirely, it would have a surface tempurature of ~200 degress in sunlight (based on "Venus is nearly twice Mercury's distance from the Sun and thus receives only 25% of Mercury's solar irradiance" where Mercury's averge daylight surface temperature is 427 °C; 800 °F in equatorial regions). While I concur that the trees bursting aflame skew the perception, I doubt that raw temperature is the only factor (since they were also "modified" by Rashek to live in the low radiation environment provided by the ashmounts). Full Spectrum light + raw temperature + possible dehydration of plant tissues would all be factors in that occurance.