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Who are the other two? Jasnah and Amaram - each for different reasons and their relative ranking fluctuates by book and mood. Some of my Lirin thoughts are here and later in the same thread (though he is briefly mentioned in the note at the bottom of the previously linked post).

General Note on the above comments - I think many people fail to understand what the Order/Book/Flashback chapter's goals are - it's not that Oathbringer was a book about Bondsmiths or RoW was a book about Willshapers - the book/flashback tie is meant to indicate "this is the book where we start to explore the surges for this Radiant Order" - and we did that. We see Spiritual Adhesion and how Bondsmith's Surges differ from Windrunner/Stonewards due to the CR/SR aspects those surges take. We see how Cohesion works for Willshapers in RoW. Goal met. Concur. Done is done - we can say what we dislike and why, but there is no "fixing" what is published. That said, I can see why WoK!Prime was not published and am very glad we got this version of Roshar over that one. He said that he had armor spren from both his first and second set of ideals Sigzil never had Windrunner Armor, he has windspren in his Skybreaker armor. It was very well established that the windspren that become a Windrunner's Plate start following them after the third ideal. We see Kaladin's Windspren deflect the highstorm winds to protect the captured Alethi in OB Ch 31 and his Platespren manifest in Shadesmar as they follow him on Notum's ship in OB CH 108. Likewise, we see that Sigzil's Third-Oath bound Windspren are still following him in WaT Ch 147: WoK: No comments WoR: Shallan ignoring Soulcasting because of Stick and Jasnah's admonition to not pursue it alone felt more like a gimmick than an extension of Shallan's story. .It felt like Brandon was saving Shadesmar for later. . . and he was. Which is fine, but the Watsonian reasoning falls flat for me. I also wish we had seen more Kaladin/Lighteyes interactions in his role as Captain - but overall the book is solid. OB: Easily the worst of the five for me - almost entirely because of Shallan (with a side of Lirin who makes my top-3 hated characters in SA). Kaladin has depression and SAD and we feel that he struggles with these conditions while they do not define him. Everything about Veil and Radiant in this book feels fake - like a person that had read about DID once is trying to fake having DID. I've stated in other places the long descriptions and do not feel inclinced to repeat it here since it is tangential to this topic. I wish Doors of Stone (which still does not exist, and likely never will) had not prompted Brandon to change from the plan for book 3 to be Stones Unhallowed - saving Dalinar's flashbacks for Book 5. RoW: I liked RoW, even if it was Die Hard on Roshar. I loved the lore and worldbuilding and artefabrian reveals. I wish we had gotten some Windrunner vs Skybreaker content from the Azimir front. Shallan's sections continued to be the weakest component of the story to me, made more tolerabel by being in Shadesmar and some good Spren information; though I wish Felt, Stump, and Godeke had gotten a bit more rounded in these parts - again it flet like intentional blinders because Edgedances and Truthwatchers are reserved for the second arc. WaT: I still need to do my first re-read of WaT, so it is the book I have internalized the least. I understand why Brandon wanted to include linguisitic drift in the story - I just wish it had happened either in RoW (we had a 1 yr time skip) or in Book 6. The fact that people speak differently from WaT ch 1 than they did in RoW Ch 117, when it is "the next day" is what I find jarring (not the lingustic drift itself). I also found Jasnah's debate with TOdium to be unconvincing. Jasnah has been built up from first intro as an intelligent and eloquent speaker with much practical experience in debate, but that she somehow fails to call out ad hominum, and other glaringly obvious logical fallacies undermines the entire scene as Diabolus ex Machina - designed to get the result the story wanted, even if the path there was false. I'll reserve other thoughts for after a re-read...

Weeper is Liss, which is an obvious pseudonym but could not be Tyn; as Tyn didn't drop a Shardbalde when killed by Shallan. It is likely that Liss is one of the Heralds, but there is not enough information for any conclusive deductions. All WoBs (only two) only get a RAFO: Hope that helps

Welcome to the Shard. Please consider an Intro Post to let us know what you have or have-not read (whichever list is shorter). Also, please consider checking out the Sharder FAQ for some useful forum info and tips. The timeline is correct - AoL: Hope that helps

This states clearly that the thing preventing Odium from using his powers on most individuals is a restriction placed by Honor - and explicitly ties it to the scene where they agree to stay in the system. Okay, I see what you are asking - two things: Unreliable narrator applies - Rayse is not being completely honest. Not lies, but not the whole truth either The part he is referencing here is in WaT Ch 113 (we don't get to see the terms) It's a tightening of the common restictions to all Shards. Hope that helps

The agreement was not on-screen in WaT - and it is larger than just Honor and Odium. Coppermind: There are a lot of sources here, so I left the links - and included the link to the relevant section of the coppermind, but there does not seem to be a single WoB that summarizes all of this information. Mistborn/Warbreaker Spoilers: Shards need a Connection to an individual to act directly on the person - Hoid's case was different and based on the agreements mentioned above. Hope that helps

That was why I linked the Sharder FAQ: It has that info and a whole lot more to make it easy for new Sharders to adjust (conveniently located in the Introduce Yourself section).

Welcome to the Shard. Please consider an Intro Post to let us know what you have or have-not read (whichever list is shorter). Also, please consider checking out the Sharder FAQ for some useful forum info and tips. Please keep in mind this is SA discussion, not Cosmere Discussion. Please spoiler tag all information from series other than SA.

Please keep in mind this is SA discussion, not Cosmere Discussion. Please spoiler tag all information from series other than SA. Fixed - thank you

WoBs: Hope that helps

It is implied (not yet confirmed) that Dalinar over-drew on what his bond should be able to provide. He was only a Second Oath Radiant at the time - so, much like Kaladin in WoR when he injured Syl by overdrawing their weakened bond while falling into the crevasse, Dalinar caused harm to Stormfather by trying to force his essence into working the Oathgate by direct Connection (likely Spiritual Adhesion) rather than with a third-oath blade (which he would not have had anyway).

This was discussed in RoW Ch 19. They didn't have enough Windrinners for the War campaign as it was; which is why they needed to send an envoy to convince the Honorspren to allow bonds again and stop treating those Honorspren that did seek a bond as outlaws. They couldn't afford to lose a Radiant and their squires just to ferry the envoy party - even if it was only to Nameless. RoW Ch 19:

Millennium/Millennia = Thousand Years/Plural Eon (see below) is a geologic timescale: Hope that helps

Welcome to the Shard. Please consider an Intro Post to let us know what you have or have-not read (whichever list is shorter). Also, please consider checking out the Sharder FAQ for some useful forum info and tips. RoW Ch 113: The entire process of feeling brave, beginning to transition into the Spiritual Realm Demense and Drawing Nightblood is all simultaneous - and since it is formed using aspects of all three realms, Taravangian's thinking "Odium is here, Nightblood is here" is enough to Connect all three Cognitively. Nightblood is invested enough that he would appear in all three realms regardless, but Taravangian Connected to both Odium and Nightblood as the vision formed, and drew the sword. Hope that helps.

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