TheMightyLopen

Well that's sad. Rae had just claimed to me last Cycle and told me everything she'd seen with her ability. She spied on me and Jondesu and then Doc and Arinian when Arin was jailed. So I was actually starting to trust her. :/ One thing we can learn from this death is that 2 Unjust do not have spren. Unless it was a Dustbringer who killed her, but from the write-up, it looks like the Unjust killed her. I do think we should execute Drake. Kind of odd that we didn't execute Quiver, but I guess people just weren't paying good attention. Oh please don't be an edgedancer Drake.

Well, I literally have no idea what's going on, but I didn't want to go 2 whole Cycles without posting anything! From what little I've read, I suspect Bugsy and Conquestor. That's probably not gonna do any good, but oh well. I'll do my best to catch up next Cycle and get some analysis done. Edit: Actually, I think Silverblade is my top suspect.

I'm back! Not that I really missed much... Wow. I think this is the first time I've ever been on a kill list! Are you sure about that? Because earlier Arin said that he kept all of his Honor... I'm not sure if I actually want to suggest this, because I'm really conflicted about what to do with Arin, but there's too much irony here not to point it out. You confirm that there's a kill role around, then say your not sure what we can do about Arin? We could ask the kill role to kill him, which would solve any problems about him Bonding another cultivationspren. And if someone uses their power to save him(Stoneward or Elsecaller) or the Dustbringer kill someone else, well, that would give us information too. It would just be about the player with the spren who messed up our plans. I really really don't want to lynch another inactive. I know I've got the CC banner in my sig and all, but we've already lynched 2 inactives and the one active player we've lynched escaped, which means that so far, our lynches have done almost nothing for finding the Unjust. Even so, I'd probably be okay with lynching another inactive/lurker if not for the fact that the lynch mechanic is a delayed kill. If we lynch another inactive, it'll be 3 more Cycle before we get any information from the lynch. I feel like I've already said this, and yet here we are again, with hardly anyone accusing players(with votes at least) so we're considering another inactive lynch. Doc and Randuir, you've both been active, but haven't really put yourself out there and accused anyone(plus I just have a bad feeling about you both). So you're both on my suspect list. As is Alvron for consistently going after inactives(maybe it's just my opinion, but I seriously don't see the good in doing that right now). And yeah, Arinian mentioned me being more aggressive than usual? I'm intentionally being aggressive, because I'm trying to get some legitimate discussion going, instead of rules advice/ideas and who's got what spren and stuff, which is all well and good unless that's all there is. Anyways, here's all of the players I would lynch right now: Doc, randuir, SD, Alvron, Arinian. SD is on there because he has been doing just enough to get max Honor and I suspect almost all of the elims are going for spren(surprising if true, but it seems like the most logical conclusion for why there hasn't been kills) and again, I've just gotten a bad vibe from his posts. I might be willing to lynch Shqueeves, but again, it's his first game and I totally understand that lurking is easy to do, especially in your first game. So, I don't think I'd want to. Voting on Alv because he's got 2 votes on him already. Ninja'd. Woo! Another actual vote! I don't suspect Drake, but oh well. On the subject of Drake vs. Rae, I'd lean more towards Rae being the Unjust, if one of them is evil(it's possible they both are, but I don't think that's the case). I've got a good read on Drake and a mildly bad read on Rae. Ah, right, Quiver.

Sorry, I will be back tomorrow actually. >.> /blue text color codestuff that I dont remember

I'm going out of town today, and won't be back until sometime tomorrow, so I won't be able to post or anything until then. Gosh dang it. I hate it when people don't die when they're supposed to. :/ To echo Drake, did you put all of your Honor towards Edgedancer when you realized you were going to be lynched Arinian? Or did you already have the Spren? I don't exactly remember the timeline of when Spren were bonded though, so that may have been impossible. It's just strange that you didn't alert anyone that you were an Edgedancer and now we've wasted multiple Cycles.

I'm going out of town today, and won't be back until sometime tomorrow, so I won't be able to post or anything until then.

While a few of the Initiates ran ahead of the main group to try and secure the Spire, their only way back to the Oathgate, Shinon fired back at the Voidbringers chasing them down from behind. At this distance, his arrows were much more deadly than their wildly inaccurate lightning. His arrows killed, or at least halted, a Voidbringer more often than not, but that didn't seem to slow the others at all. They're determined to kill us all, he thought grimly. It looked like they would be able to outrun the bulk of the Voidbringers to the Spire though, thanks to Kaladin and his Squires. Feeling confident that they'd actually get out of the chasms, Shinon heard one of the Initiates yelling for everyone to run. What's the problem, we're almost there, Shinon thought to himself. Then he heard it. The low rumble of water. Shinon's heart sank as he realized what that meant for them all. He knew what carnage floods caused here in the chasms. Shinon tried to find a way up the chasm, but there wasn't nearly enough handholds to make it far. If only I had some rope. He looked around, trying to find something to climb. He squinted, and noticed a few Initiates gathering around one point. A rope! Shinon sprinted towards the group, the rumbling getting louder every second. Thankfully, he made it with time to spare, securing himself a place on the rope, which actually somehow raised him up once he grabbed hold of it. Let's hope this is high enough, he thought as he saw the river of water begin to barrel down the chasms toward him.

"Storms, I missed the best part," Shinon grumbled, looking over the chasmfiends corpse and the exhausted Initiates. Apparently he'd been unconscious for the end of the battle, which really put him in a bad mood. He'd finally come to when the beast had almost crushed all of them. It seemed they'd all survived the test Kaladin had prepared for them, which seemed like a miracle to Shinon, since only about half of them had really done the fighting. Sighing, he began to search the chasm for any arrows he could scavenge. He was able to gather quite a few, though not nearly as much as he'd had when the battle had begun. He'd have to get some more once they returned to Urithiru. During his scavenging, he was able to find a few infused spheres, which he added to his pouch. He'd have to make sure and ration his stormlight better next time he was in a prolonged fight. As he was checking his equipment and preparing for the return, he heard one of the Initiates yell. "Voidbringers!" Shinon snapped his head up and saw them. He couldn't tell their numbers exactly, but he was sure there were more than they could handle. Kaladin seemed to think the same, shouting orders to get back to the Oathgate as quickly as possible. While the other Initiates scrambled to their feet and began to run, Shinon readied his bow and followed behind, watching carefully to make certain no Voidbringers could sneak up on the group. Urgh, I know this is really late, but I'm hoping to get some more up in a bit so that Shinon can grab that Awakened rope as well. Hopefully there's room!

I guess I'll go with my gut too. Bugsy. Ecthelion. I'm glad you put the "everyone gets lynched" mechanic in again, Joe. I've had a lot of fun with that in the past. And of course we're lynching Joe on the first Cycle. XD

Well, it wasn't that you were too helpful. Just that I thought something felt off about your posts. And really, my main reason for voting on you was that I was hoping to get some reactions from voting on the most active player, but it seems everyone has abandoned the search for the Unjust... I'm gonna use the lack of activity as proof that we need to lynch every Cycle and we need to execute those we lynch. Because if we don't? We'll have Cycles like this, where the information flow is cut off and we get absolutely nothing done because no one knows what to talk about. :/ I know everyone is having fun with the RP side of things(and since I haven't said this yet - great writeups Aman! They have all been extremely impressive. ), but it is really helpful to just add your opinion on any subject or go back to an earlier Cycle and see if you can pick out someone you think acted in a suspicious way. And then vote! That is very important. So please, can we execute Arinian now??? We need like 76 more votes or something. (no hard feelings to Arinian, I'd just really like to know his alignment) On that note, here is the aforementioned list. I'm starting this really late, so it might not be as detailed as I'd like, but hopefully it can do some good: 1. Joe - Neutral. Sorry, I did my analysis from the bottom of the player list to the top for some reason(well, it was actually a lot more mixed up than that), so you're the last player I need to say something about and I don't really remember much of your posts. >.< He did vote on Arinian last Cycle, so if Arin is Unjust, my guess would be Honorable. If Arin is an Honorable, then I've no idea. 2. Assassin - I haven't seen a lot from him that really struck me as suspicious, but I don't have a very good read on him. Neutral. 3. Elbereth - Nothing noteworthy comes to mind, tbh. Neutral 4. Jondesu - I'm still wary of him. I really keep going back and forth on whether I truly suspect him, but I just can't shake the feeling that something's off with him. Leaning Unjust. 5. Randuir - Have had a village read on him for a while. He's been one of the most active, helpful players, IMO. Leaning Honorable. 6. HH - Ummmm, don't remember a lot of what he's done, but I had a small village gut/tone read on him early. Leaning Honorable. 7. SD - Has been consistently active, which is awesome! Keep it up. Oh right, I'm supposed to say which side I think he's on. Hrm. The side of activity! Okay, joking aside, I'm not really sure. From what I remember of his posts, I'm guessing Honorable. 8. Ecthelion - I don't have a good read on Ecth. He's been pretty active and voting fairly often, which is definitely a good thing. I'd have to go over his posts in detail to give a more solid conclusion. Neutral. 9. Arinian - let's execute him and find out shall we? 10. JUQ - Pretty inactive from what I remember. I believe he's done a little RP so far, but I don't think he's earned any Honor. Neutral 11. Quiver - Completely inactive, also no Honor. Neutral/Honorable if Doc is Unjust/possibly Unjust if Arin is Honorable? 12. Shqueeves - More active than Quiver and JUQ, but not a lot of posts. I've seen him around multiple times, so I'm a little concerned he's lurking, but since he's new, I'll cut him some slack and won't bother him for a Cycle or so. Neutral/leaning Unjust 13. Doc - Like I said, a lot of posts with a lot of content, but I've got a strange feeling about him. Too much to really analyze at this time of night, but he was against lynching Arinian it seemed(he voted on Quiver because of how fast the bandwagon on him formed) and hasn't voted to execute Arinian this Cycle. Has also stated suspicion of Jondesu, Alvron(his vote this Cycle), and...Ecthelion, though he said earlier this Cycle that his suspicion against Jon and Ecth isn't as strong now. I don't remember much else off the top of my head and I don't feel like going through the whole thread tonight. Neutral/gut is leaning Unjust. 14. Mage - Has only posted some RP this Cycle. Other than that...I don't remember a whole lot. >.> Actually! He didn't agree with the suspicion on Arinian, but didn't vote on Quiver to save him(well, at first he did, but then he removed it). I remember I had a small village read on him from early on though(once I voted on him, which caused me to go back a little while after and review his first few posts ). So, leaning village. 15. Arraenae - One of the first players to contact me through PM's. I, don't really know what I think about her. Not really suspicious of her, but I haven't got any reason to trust her(yet. if Arinian turns out to be an Unjust, that's a point in her favor). Based on Rae's response to Drake, I highly doubt they are elims together. So either one is a villager and the other isn't, or they're both villagers. Probably. >> 16. Lopen - That's me. 17. Drake - I have had a village gut read on Drake since C1. I should probably look over his posts some more though, since I haven't paid him much attention. Ha, ninja'd by Drake. Wow, that is one long RP. o.o 18. Sheep - Honorable Initiate. 19. Lazy Anarchist - Has done some RP, but I think that's it. I PM'd her on C2, but she has yet to respond or even view the message. I don't think she's even been online for a week. Which is really too bad. :/ 20. Alvron - To be honest, I actually am a little suspicious of Alv. Mostly for his comment this Cycle about not executing Arinian. Because I feel like it's really important that we get players alignments, so him suggesting we not execute players makes me question his motives. If everyone was extremely active and analyzing then maybe we'd be able to catch irregularities without the hard proof of executed players alignments, but not everyone is, so I think it would be really hard to get villagers to rally together enough to imprison all of the Unjust without solid evidence. If Arinian is an Unjust though, I'm not sure how that would make me feel about Alv, given Arin has repeatedly stated suspicion against Alv and Alv was the first vote on Arin. 21. Drought - Like Drake, I've had a village read on him since C1. Not much else to say about him, except he also voted on Arin. 22. DA - Like Rae pointed out, he's been kind of inactive lately. Other than that, not really much to say. If Alv is Unjust, maybe DA isn't? Because at one point Alv said he was thinking of moving his vote to him. But that's not really worth much at this point, since Alv is alive and he didn't even vote on him. So meh. White text Vote tally: Rae(1): Drake Alvron(2): Doc, Lopen Doc(0): Lopen El(1): Rae Execute Arinian(4/10): Drake, Rae, Lopen, Jondesu Alvron. Might as well make a leading lynch candidate!

Well, I had hardly any time to analyze or anything today, so no big post from me right now. Maybe tomorrow, but no promises. I will vote though. I'm not sure what it is, but I've been getting a really strange read on Doc for a while. I like that he's posting a lot, but something just feels off, like he's trying too hard to be helpful. Maybe it's just me though.

Ecthelion, you really think Troll!Joe wouldn't make Magestar a coinshot just because he said he wasn't gonna make Magestar a coinshot?

I'm definitely in favor of executing Arinian. Because otherwise I feel like the lynch on him would be largely wasted. I know our goal is just to imprison or kill all of the Unjust, but we have to get information from somewhere in order to catch all of the Unjust. Do we want to have more lynches like the last one where everyone is complaining about accusations being really weak? Because that's pretty much the only type of accusations we can scrounge up unless we get the lynched players alignment. Like I said from the very beginning of the game and still hold to, when I vote on someone, it's to imprison them and execute them, unless we somehow get solid evidence that the player we jailed is innocent. Next point, Sheep's death. I'm not sure what this is about. Even the fact that it's only a 1 man job doesn't seem worth it to me. Right now, I'm thinking they're investigating as many players as possible, while also having one or two of them try for a spren, so they're not killing just yet. But I guess we'll have to wait and see. There's not really much point to guessing. On to the next lynch. I've no idea right now. I'm still a little suspicious of Jondesu, but that might just be me tunneling on the only other suspicion I had besides Arinian. I need to go over the previous lynch and see if I can catch anything odd. I may actually go over every player and give my feelings on them, as that sometimes helps me clear my thoughts as well as give you all some insight for what I'm thinking.

Vote tally: Shqueeves(0): Doc Quiver(5): Randuir, Jondesu, HH, Assassin, Drake, Arinian, Mage, Doc, Arinian Ecthelion(0): Doc Jondesu(1): Drake Arinian(6): Alv, Rae, Joe, Drought, Lopen, Randuir Alv(0): Arinian Execute Sheep(5/11): Doc, Shqueeves, Jondesu, Assassin, Arinian, Lopen, Mage It is possible that a Willshaper was one of the Bonds created, so there is a chance that vote manipulation could happen. Just throwing that out there so everyone's aware of it. I'm not convinced that Arinian is an Unjust, but I haven't seen anything from him that really made me think he's an Honorable either. So I'm leaving my vote on him. Sorry if you're a villager man, I just have to go with my gut on this one.

Sorry, I did explain my reasoning in an earlier post though, so I thought you already knew my logic about that... But since it appears you don't, I'll explain again. I accused you and Alvron of being Unjust teammates. Just about an hour earlier, you voted on Alvron. The way I see it, it could be that you wanted to kill Alvron or at least appear like you wanted to kill Alvron to try and prove to me or anyone else that you weren't teammates with him. Which, IMO, most villagers wouldn't try and do(vote on another player even though they're not really suspicious of them just to prove that they aren't an eliminator with that player). Maybe I'm wrong about that, but that was my logic. Also, just thought about something. Inactive eliminators can be controlled by their teammates. Sooooo, lynching inactives isn't quite as pointless as usual, though I still prefer to actually have a lynch than just saying "let's lynch an inactive." More thoughts later...probably. Oh, and Sheep.

Bleh, I was planning on getting a discussion post up tonight, but it's late and I'm really tired. So I'll just vote on Arinian, with my reasoning being his specificity of there being 4 Unjust, and directly after me accusing him of being Unjust teammates with Alv he voted on Alv, plus just kind of a bad gut/tone read on him. I have absolutely no opinion about executing Sheep or not. I kind of feel like it doesn't make any difference, so we might as well get his alignment, but if you guys don't think that's a good idea, well, you've probably thought about it more than me. So I'll defer to your judgement on this, though if I get the time to collect my thoughts tomorrow, I may have an opinion by then. Also, good luck finishing off the chasmfiend! If it's still alive when Shinon comes to, well, he's out of arrows, but he can yell and run around distracting it I guess.

I was considering spectating this one, but if you want more bodies, you can add mine to the pile. I'll be in as Vladek, who's very curious about the art of hemalurgy, and is really just all around morbid and creepy. 9 p.m. PST should work fine for me as well.

While the others had been directly attacking the beast, Shinon took stock of his arrows. It seemed that the fall into the chasm had broken over half of what he'd brought. Storms, he thought, I'll have to make these count. Distracted as it was by the Initiates surrounding it, he was able to stay a safe distance away and fire on it from a boulder he'd climbed. The first few shots were only to gauge the distance and try to figure out its movement patterns, so he could anticipate the attacks and find an opening. He'd coated his arrows with the poison, or whatever it was, that the blind man have given him, but it didn't seem to have any effect on the creature, since the arrows would just bounce off of its hard carapace and fall to the chasm floor, leaving the beast completely unharmed. It didn't even seem to notice the arrows. He soon emptied his quiver. He took his final arrow, dipped it in the poison, then readied himself. Okay, focus. Slow your breathing and wait for an opening. He breathed in, gathering the last of his stormlight. It seemed to heighten his senses and he felt he could follow the beasts' movement especially well. This is really turning out to be very useful, he thought. It seemed as if someone had scored a good hit on one of the chasmfiends legs, for it trumpeted wildly and looked to the side where a couple Initiates were hacking at it. Now! Shinon loosed his final arrow, aimed directly at the chasmfiend's eye where it had exposed itself by turning to look at its side. The beast roared again as the arrow struck true. It bashed its head into the chasm wall, snapping off the protruding half of the arrow, leaving the tip firmly stuck in its eye, which would hopefully allow Hithon's poison to do its work. The wild thrashing of the chasmfiend from the subsequent attacks caused everything to shake, throwing Shinon from his perch atop the boulder... Shinon might be knocked out for a bit, so feel free to have that cause the outcropping to crash down or not, he wasn't awake to see what happened.

So, it appears that most everyone is content to lynch another inactive. >.> While I don't like inactives, and I know if we got too many, we'd have trouble executing, or the bigger problem, IMO, pardoning players. But I'm not sure if it's worth it to lynch an inactive again. With the delay of death because of the lynch mechanics, we'd effectively be pushing back any information gained from the lynch for what, 2 more Cycles? Or even 3? I'm just afraid that discussion will really stall at that point(it seems like discussion sometimes takes a hit around then even when there's normal lynches and stuff), and we will be down a few villagers, with no leads from the lynches(Sheep and Quiver could be Unjust, but if we're not executing them, we won't know that and still wouldn't be able to gain much information from that fact). By the way, I'm surprised no one has commented on this(that I noticed), but, nobody was killed by the Unjust. o.O Which is a little odd, though I suppose they could be focusing on learning players crimes and trying to get Spren before villagers. Anyways, back on topic. I'd personally rather we have an actual lynch. Really, we're gonna have to lynch 2 players as shots in the dark, so we need to get on with it. My 2 top suspects at this point are Jondesu and Arinian. I would be willing to lynch either of them I think. I know they are both pretty active, but that is how you get information. Lynch the most suspicious players that discussion has centered on and who have interacted with other players in ways that could help us identify other eliminators or clear villagers. I need to go over everything that Jon and Arin have done and try to lay out my reasons as clearly as possible for why I suspect them, then vote on whoever I suspect most. Hopefully I can get that up either later tonight, or as early as possible tomorrow(probably afternoon sometime though). Also, I'll try to get some RP up soon as well for the attack!

Response to Rae... "Um, um, um. Uh. I, uh, um. My dress got ripped in the Highstorm and, uh, um, it's falling to shreds. So, uh..." Ralaanar trailed off. As she was speaking, Shinon realized her ragged appearance and looked away, a little embarrassed he hadn't noticed sooner. "Oh, uh, right," he mumbled. "If you'd like, you can borrow my cloak?" he said as he removed his cloak and offered it to Ralaanar. "Actually, just keep it. I can ask Captain Kaladin for a new one. So...if that's all, I should probably go to my room to get some rest. If today was any indication, we're gonna have a rough time ahead of us." We're gonna have a rough time ahead of us, Shinon shook his head as he recalled his words from the previous night. He hadn't even dreamed how rough it would be. Captain Kaladin had brought them back to the Shattered Plains and here they were, jumping, or in better words, falling into the chasms to storming fight a storming Chasmfiend without the help of Kaladin or his Squires. Stormfather! he thought. He'd brought his bow, but bows were useless when fighting a chasmfiend. He looked over the edge of the chasm and gulped. He wasn't sure what was worse, the fall into the chasm or what was waiting for them all down there. It seemed that the others who had...reached the bottom were organizing to begin the fight. I guess there's nothing I can do but jump. He sucked in as much stormlight as he could from the spheres he brought, then jumped. He started panicking about halfway down, flailing his arms and legs in an attempt to do something to slow his rapid descent. The pain he felt when he reached the bottom with a thud told him it didn't. "Urghghgh" he moaned as the stormlight began healing his broken bones and torn muscles. When his head finally cleared from the pain, he heard the other Initiates talking about the plan. It sounded like they were almost ready to charge the beast. He climbed to his feet and stumbled over. "Well that was the worst experience I've ever gone through." he wheezed. "I didn't think anything could top being strung from a tower in the middle of a Highstorm." he said, glaring up towards where Kaladin was watching them, no doubt smiling the whole time. "Regardless, it seems that was only the first lesson of the day. I know my bow won't be much help, so I'll stick with keeping it distracted, maybe try to blind it if possible."

A couple of comments on this post. First, I sort of accuse you and Alv of being Unjust teammates, then you vote on Alv directly after, which honestly just makes me that much more paranoid about you. Maybe you are Unjust but Alv isn't, so you want to prove you both aren't teammates by killing/imprisoning Alv? Or, maybe you are both teammates and you want to distance yourself from him(though I'm of the opinion that the first case is more likely, tbh). Then, what randuir pointed out that you specifically say "the elims can investigate 4 players in 1 Cycle." I know it could just have been an assumption on your part(I know I make a good many of those myself >.>), but it does add to my suspicion of you. Add to that that it seemed like you already understood the rules regarding the Unjusts ability to each use the faction power every Cycle(as evidenced by the fact that you said you thought they'd use their faction powers instead of bonding back on C1), it almost seems like you already know the answer to your own question. Doc, your posts are so long. (which is great, btw, just makes my responses look like big posts, lol) While we don't have to know alignments, they're kind of important for us to know so that we can make more accurate accusations/clear people. >.> Uh, yeah, given Aman has confirmed those are the only ways to lose a spren, I'll agree with you there. Can't say I'd automatically imprison them, but yes, that does add quite a bit more suspicion to someone if we hear they lost their spren. I do not suspect Alvron. That was just me voicing paranoid thoughts because Alv said I could pick on him. I don't legitimately think he's Unjust. My suspicion of Arin wasn't just about insight, but the fact that he seemed to understand the rules very well so early, which usually comes from asking the GM questions about them, and I don't remember Arin really doing that very much in other games. At least, it didn't seem to me that he focused on it as much as it seemed like he was this game. That was what I was trying to say. That's really too bad. :/ I don't really like wasting the lynch on Sheep either, since it will just delay our ability to get any solid information even more, but I am a member of the CC and I don't like lynching active people this early. So oh well. I disagree with you that the elims want to lynch the most active villagers. They have a kill for that, so lynching active villagers would just draw attention to them. Elims will lynch active villagers sometimes if they've got the grounds to do so, but simply voting on an active player shouldn't be enough to cast suspicion on me. You don't even say anything about my logic/reasoning for my vote, just that I voted on an active player. As Shinon was imagining the new terrors Captain Kaladin might have meant with his parting words, he suddenly felt something pulling on his cloak. He yelped and whipped around, ready to fend off any attackers. Instead, he saw, who was that? "Ralaanar? Is that you? Storms, don't sneak up on me like that! With all this talk of murder, you shouldn't be wandering about...doing whatever it was you were doing." Shinon's eyes narrowed a bit. "What exactly were you doing anyways?" She didn't look like she'd be a murderer, but then again, who could really say what murderers looked like anyway? Best not to trust anyone.

What the storms, Shinon thought as he stood in the cold rain. First, he'd been rudely awakened and brought to the roof, then he'd been strung up in a highstorm, and if that wasn't bad enough, the Radiant Kaladin had informed them that Lomot, the first of the Initiates had been murdered, and by a Shardblade no less! And now what? He expected the murderer to just turn themselves in? Ridiculous. Sighing, Shinon sought refuge from the riddens of the Highstorm he'd just been through. If there was a murderer, or murderers, in the group, he'd have to be extra careful to watch his back. He'd thought that some of the Initiates looked shady back at the gala, but didn't consider that anyone who spoke the Oath would murder another Initiate. I wonder who it could be? he thought. I don't know any of them well enough to really know, so I guess I'll have to assume they're all capable of having done the deed. "I thought we'd be fighting Voidbringers, not ourselves," he grumbled, considering what was in store for them all the next day. Did Kaladin mention something about a greatshell?

Well then. I did come up with a theory that you and Arinian are Unjust. Because Arinian was giving some really insightful advice about how the Unjust might act, which led to me consider that him and his teammates were asking a bunch of rules questions in the doc and that's how he understood the rules so well(I had a few bad misconceptions and his post made me realize them, so it may just be that I'm bad at interpreting rules correctly ). Anyways, if that were the case, you'd be a prime suspect, since you often ask a lot of questions about rules and stuff. Plus the fact that you said you were gonna save your Honor last Cycle, which could mean that you had another action to use, but the only actions anyone can do besides bonding spren is the Unjust faction powers. So there you have it. Is this enough to convince other players to lynch you? Probably not. Do I even want to lynch you or Arinian? Not particularly, no, because you're both active and I don't think the evidence is enough to lynch. Darkness was lynched C1 in the last QF, so I'm not gonna vote on him. I will say though, he has accused someone at least, which is somewhat helpful. I think I will remove my vote from Magestar, though I am disappointed that he never responded. Anyways, I'm going to move my vote to Jondesu. Not great reasoning here, but my gut's telling me something is off. First post, he told Drought(my current top guess for villager) that his plan to catch the Unjust through tracking Honor was "excellent." My thought here is that Jon is an elim trying to get on the good side of a villager, while also appearing to be helpful, but the plan likely won't hurt the Unjust. He also said he'd tell 2 or 3 people if/when he bonds a spren, which could be him trying to give the impression that he has nothing to hide. Next, this Cycle, he reinforces the idea he's village by claiming Honorbound and saying that if people examine his playstyle, they'll see it's his village playstyle, both of which aren't exactly helpful, since people's playstyles generally don't change all that much between villager and elim(in some cases they do, but I don't recall Jondesu having extreme differences). Then he votes on Sheep because it's not an "actual" lynch, even though for the lynch to be an effective information gathering tool, we need to execute those arrested pretty much every time. So it's as if he's being helpful by voting, but doesn't have the guts to follow through with it completely. If you support interrogating someone, you really should support executing them, as harsh as it sounds. >.> Because if we just interrogate people, we won't get their alignments and we won't get anywhere, because we still won't have any more information than when we arrested them, just that a certain set of people were fine with arresting that player. As I said, it's not an amazing case for why Jondesu is Unjust, and I'm not even that confident in it, but it's the best I've got at this point.

There isn't really an answer to that question. I imagine there'll be some Unjust actively participating in discussion and there's almost always an eliminator or 2 who's quiet and lurks a lot. What we really need to do is come up with topics of discussion for those who aren't sure what to talk about, so it makes it harder for the elims to lurk. Honestly, it isn't that difficult to recognize game discussion from RP. All it takes is like, 20 seconds to really go over a post to see if someone is discussing anything game relevant(even if it's in RP form), which isn't asking a lot, IMO. I do think using the line to separate discussion from RP helps though. Nope, that's all there is to it. The only other rule I can think of is that copy pasting PM's to the thread or to another PM is not allowed. You can c/p PM's to an elim doc though. Oh yeah, and I guess you can't add other players to the PM once it's created(of course, there are no group PM's allowed in this game, so that wouldn't happen anyways, but for the future, that's how it works). Generally lynching someone kills them, which is a bigger blow to the village if that person is a villager than them just losing the ability to gain Honor. I do understand the "no suspicions" thing though. I'm having similar problems. >.> But it is helpful to go through the thread and try and find someone to vote on, if only to get another player to give their opinion on said player, which can lead to, you guessed it, discussion! Now I need to go find someone to pick on to create actual discussion, instead of me just giving my thoughts on how to play the game in general.

Honestly, I agree with you there. After I put my vote on Mage, I went back and looked through his stuff and couldn't tell why I'd thought he was suspicious. >> I just erased stuff because I didn't want this post to take up so much room. Anyways, I'd like to point out that there is actually a disadvantage for the Unjust to try to Bond spren right away. They can only make 1 Action per Cycle, so they'd have to choose whether to investigate someone's crimes in order to be able to kill them/attack someone, or they could start Bonding spren. My guess would be that they'd hold onto their Honor for a while until they've got a good amount saved up and then use it all at once(which I think might be why I was initially suspicious of Mage, and a little of Alvron as well, but then, why would they admit to not using their Honor yet?). That's basically what I was trying to say about players who lose their spren. We should look into the ways they lost it instead of immediately accusing them of being Unjust. I'm not sure those are the only ways you can lose your spren though. Aman seemed kind of mysterious about it, which makes me think it's possible that there are other ways to lose one. Such as executing too many Honorbound or maybe lying a lot if you've got an Honorspren. That might not be the case though, it was just something I've been thinking about. So I guess it would be a good idea to ask Aman about it. Aman, did you explain all of the ways a player could lose their spren in the OP? There's not a lot to discuss no. >> Which means this is the time for aggressive accusations based on practically nothing!