TheMightyLopen

I'm gonna vote Nathan I guess, though I'm not sure it matters very much now that we killed the Noble Rioter! I'm a Regular, and I claimed on the first Cycle I believe. Stick claimed Regular to me on the first Cycle.

Magestar. Assassin. Mage should be dying to a Coinshot. If someone else gets Coinshot, then Wonko is likely a Noble. I can't say more than that.

So are you going to vote this Cycle? Darn. I knew Rae had claimed to you. I don't really have time to respond to your response, but I guess I am less suspicious of you now. It kinda just feels like I'm being paranoid. I'm just surprised that the elims would kill Rae over me or you, when they supposedly didn't know about her. Mage, sorry, but I just can't shake the feeling that you're a Noble. One thing I forgot to emphasize on was the fact that you said you were slightly suspicious of Ripple early on, but then when the lynch moved to her the Cycle after you said that, you said you didn't think it was justified and tried to lynch different players. I could be wrong about you. There's just not really a better target. I can't tell about Assassin. I think it's possible he's a Noble, but it's hard to tell. Does anyone else have opinions on Assassin and Mage?

Darn it. I was so close to asking Rae to protect herself. I just didn't think the elims knew about her being a Thug. Me and Alv were the only ones who knew about her I believe, and I don't think Alv would tell anyone and I know I haven't. I guess they just got lucky. So, we've got 8 players left. Assuming none of the inactives were eliminators, that would mean there's likely 2 eliminators left. So we need to get this lynch right, especially if the eliminators have a Soother/Rioter(vote manipulation/Coinshot redirect). I'm gonna try to summarize what each player left has done and how they've interacted with players that could tell us about their alignment. 1. Lopen. I think I'll just pass on reviewing my own posts, as I might be a tiny bit biased. 2. Daniyah - Said she'd voice her thoughts this game, which was immediately followed up by Jondesu(Noble) saying basically the same thing. Said she had a bad feeling about Doc. Voted on Jondesu after Wonko answered her question about Jondesu's timing with the PM to me and Wonko. Voted on Nathan for inactivity filter dodge on C2. Removed after he explained. Talks to Ecth about online times and such. Voted on DA. 3. Wonko - Was the first vote on Doctor, stating he seemed off. Didn't think me or Ecth was suspicious. Later said he wanted to drop his vote on Doc, but that it would create a tie. Voted on Jondesu on C2, but said he was less sure about it. I suppose he meant he was more sure about the Doc lynch? Even though he wanted to remove his vote later? Me and Wonko were contacted by Jondesu on C1 when he asked us to remove our votes on Doc. Kept his vote on Jondesu, saying he thought it likely Jondesu was trying to save Doc based on posts/that PM. Seemed very confident Jondesu was a Noble, after saying earlier that he wasn't very sure about him. Jondesu tried to argue his case at the end of C2, but Wonko didn't back down. Stated suspicion of Ripple and Ecth on C3, then voted on Ripple. Said he wasn't very certain about either of them. Voted on Sheep for inactivity. Justifies his vote on Sheep. Asks Ecth to elaborate why he voted Mage on C5. Asks Ecth to elaborate on suspicion of Rae and Dani. Also states suspicon of Sart, but didn't vote on him. Voted on DA on C5 to avoid vote manipulation/tampering. 4. Ecthelion - Ripple(Noble) voted on Ecthelion with her first post. Distancing? Or was she genuinely trying to lynch Ecth? I'm leaning towards actually trying to lynch. Doctor(Noble) also called Ecth out as being different than usual. I don't think 2 elims would bus a teammate so early. Jondesu also commented about Ecth during the first Cycle, saying he seemed lynch happy. Based on these interactions alone, I'd be inclined to think Ecth is a Citizen. If Sart was a Noble, he defended Ecth to a certain extent, but I'd say it looks more like a buddying up post than a defend a teammate post. That's only if Sart was a Noble though. I just don't feel that the Nobles would have said as much about Ecth if he was one of them. Said Rae and Jondesu were prime targets for the lynch, but voted on Rae. If Sart was a Noble, Ecth is basically cleared, as Sart asked a Coinshot to kill him on C2. I guess that's a moot point though. Voted Rae on C3. Votes on Mage on C5. Says Dani and Rae are suspicious for stuff. Voted on Assassin on C5. 5. Magestar - First post of note was him defending Jondesu, stating that it was a massive bandwagon and he didn't like it. Also said he thought Doc might have contacted Jondesu telling him that El was either a ruthless villager or an eliminator, but there's really no reason for him to think Jondesu was the other villager. I don't think Jondesu ever responded and said whether Doc contacted him or not, which is kind of interesting. His reads on that post were that Orlok(village), Aman(village), Elenion(village), and maybe Ripple(Noble) or Wonko(???) were suspicious. But then poke voted Alvron(village). Stated suspicion of Rae, Orlok, and Ecth(< all villagers) at the end of C2 and didn't like the Jondesu lynch. Voted on Len on C3 and said Rae was suspicious too. Again, both were villagers. Voted on Rae when Ripple was tied for the lynch with Rae. Said he couldn't tell about Ripple and didn't seem to think the evidence was condemning enough to lynch her. Said a coinshot could kill Nathan for the filter block post, because it looked really bad. Removed vote on Rae, stating her post persuaded him to not lynch her at least. Also said Nathan cleared up his suspicion of him. Voted on Len on C4, saying he wasn't too suspicious of Sheep. Classic "vote on a villager and defend a different villager" tactic? Wait, that's probably not an actual classic tactic. Defended Sheep again, saying Len was a better lynch. I feel like he was defending Sheep a little too strongly. Could be he already knew Sheep was a villager. Changed vote to Sheep just because. Then removed it, saying he was worried about him being a Jester. Says "also" a lot(not that that means anything ). Votes on DA, but says Sart is the second best option. Says me, Rae, and Wonko are basically cleared. Not sure about Stick. Thinks Ecth is a Jester. No opinion on Assassin really. Asks Stick and me why we think he's suspicious. Said he thought it was pretty likely that DA was a Noble, and that if Sheep had survived another Cycle, he would have been fine with lynching him. 6. Stick - Said she was not suspicious of anyone during C1, even though there was some interesting stuff going on. Also said it'd be nice to lynch 2 or more elims on the first Cycle, which is kind of odd. Posted a percentage list of each player on C3 and voted on Nathan. Could have been a defense of Ripple, considering she was up for the lynch. Removed her vote from Nathan. Voted on Mage on C5, and says she's suspicious of Nathan. 7. Assassin - Asked about average amount of elims during C1. Amazed at quickness of QF's. XD Said he didn't think Ecth was a Noble. Asked who was the one hesitantly defending Jondesu(it was Ripple, but he thought it was Rae). I answered him directly after that, but he never responded. Voted on Sheep. 8. Nathan - First post was at the end of C2, just saving his life. Said Bugsy told him to post to avoid the inactivity filter. Asked for game advice in thread, to which Wonko replied, then Nathan followed his reasons and voted on Sheep. If Wonko is an eliminator like I think he is, this makes me lean village on Nathan. Okay, well, I know I didn't do nearly as much in depth analysis of everyone's posts as I did for Mage and Wonko, but that's because I think they're elims and I feel there's enough evidence for Ecth and Dani's innocence that I don't need to go into much detail. As for Assassin and Nathan, they don't have much to analyze. Stick, well, I'm just not sure. If Mage is a Noble like I think, I don't think she'd vote on him on C5 if she were a Noble as well. So I guess I think she's a villager. Oh, forgot to say, Dani told me that Wonko said he wanted to remove his vote on Doc, but thought it would be too suspicions. I realize Wonko helped lynch 3 Nobles. But the way he did it looks like bussing to me, with him being hesitant and trying to find ways to get the lynch off of them but not finding any un-suspicious way to do so. He then lynched Sheep for inactivity and didn't post very much last Cycle or this one yet. Anyways, after all of that, I'm even more suspicious of Magestar. Speak of the devil, haha. Ninja'd. XD

Haha, yeah, she's PMing me. Edit: I'll add my thoughts in here in a bit.

In case I die, I'm a little suspicious of Stick. She hasn't been participating in the lynch much, like she said, but she did vote one time. For Nathan, when Ripple was up for the lynch. She removed it a little later, but it could be that she was afraid of lynching a villager(if Nathan is in fact a villager).

Mostly it's that I'm not suspicious of everyone else. Your posts haven't really given me any village vibes so far. But like I said, I'd like to go over your posts again(which I haven't done yet). I guess I can move my vote to Darkness Ascendant as well, since it appears that's who's being lynched. Sart.

I think Rae just misinterpreted why you were voting on her. The thing about Sart is, it's Cycle 5 and the last time he posted was Cycle 2. So even if you did have a PM with him on Cycle 2, he still should have died. And I wasn't very confident in the Sheep lynch, but I thought he'd respond. I'm much more suspicious of Sart from looking at his posts than I was from looking at Sheep's posts. Alv just said he thought your posts on Cycle 1 screamed eliminator. He didn't give much specifics. Just like usual, but you can only talk to 3 people. Haha, probably. Who do you think is more suspicious out of Magestar and Sart? Those are my 2 top suspicions right now.

Well, that went terribly. Here's the remaining players and my thoughts on them: 1. Lopen - Helped lynch each Noble. (Didn't help lynch Sheep so my lynches are still 100% ...even though I was wrong about Elenion. >>) 2. Wonko - Helped lynch each Noble. 3. Arraenae - Involvement with other Nobles makes me lean heavily towards villager. She voted alongside 2 elims very early and then Ripple was trying to lynch her. 4. Daniyah - Gut, and I've spoken with her in PM's and I'm getting a very good village read on her. No proof really, but I don't think she's an elim. 5. Assassin - Just a gut read. Would like to see a little more involvement though. 6. Stick - Another gut read, but one that I've been a little less confident about lately. 7. Ecthelion - Eh, can't really tell. I guess I'm leaning village, with the main thing sticking out to me was Ripple voting against him Cycle 1 and Ripple voting alongside him on Arraenae. 8. Darkness Ascendant - Him not realizing Alv is dead struck me as genuine, funnily enough. Alv is dead DA. Sorry. I think he'd be aware of that fact if he were a Noble, since they just killed him. 9. Nathan - New player, very hard to read. Quiet so far, with his only vote coming on Sheep. I guess I lean more towards villager, simply because if he was an elim, I think he would be less likely to so blatantly bandwagon. But I'm not very certain about that. 10. Magestar - Kind of a funny read on him. Really flip flopping back and forth between village and elim. I think I'd support a lynch on him, but only after I looked over all of his posts and involvement with other players so far. 11. Sart - Currently my top suspect. I've been mildly suspicious of him for a while, but he hasn't posted in a while, so I kind of forgot about him. In fact, he should have just died from the inactivity filter. @Sart, can you explain how you survived without posting for 2 Cycle? One thing in Sart's favor is that he wasn't online for almost any of last Cycle. He was last online about 30 minutes after the Cycle was posted, which is not the time elim kills are usually sent in. Still, I'd expect there to be 2 elims left(assuming neither of the inactives were elims) so that doesn't mean he's not an elim, just that it's unlikely he sent in the kill. He did vote on Jondesu, but very very late in the Cycle and then he asked that a Coinshot kill Ecth, who I think is a villager(not certain, but still).

Well, I can't say I really want to hear anything specific from you. From my point of view, what you did last Cycle looked like you were trying to save Ripple, so I'm trying to lynch you. I'm very difficult to dissuade once I really try to lynch someone. However, given Sheep still hasn't responded even though we've tried to get him to post multiple times, I'm okay with lynching him this Cycle.

Well, I'd like to hear from Sheep, but I'm not terribly suspicious right now. If he doesn't respond, then I don't mind lynching him. I'm gonna vote on Len as well. I feel like he was trying to get the lynch off of Ripple last Cycle by pushing for lynches on Nathan and Darkness Ascendant, until he finally voted on Ripple.

Did Sheep die from inactivity Joe? Wow, another ninja. Regardless, that is about the best outcome we could have hoped for. I'm pretty well convinced of Wonko's innocence from this. I heard from a Thug that said they were going to protect one of two people, so it may be that they blocked the Noble attack.

I'd rather not risk it. 6 players just died this Cycle. I don't think purposefully killing 3 through the lynch is a good idea at this point.

Vote tally: Ripple(3): Wonko, Lopen, Rae Darkness Ascendant(2): Alvron, Elenion Rae(2): Ecth, Ripple I believe there's only about 15 minutes left in the Cycle. An elim Soother could cause a three way lynch. Of course, it could be that we've got 2 elims up for the lynch, but either way, I figure I should point it out.

Vote tally: Ripple(2): Wonko, Lopen Rae(2): Ecth, Ripple Darkness Ascendant(1): Alvron Nathan(1): Elenion Elenion(1): Rae I think we should probably try and make a bigger gap on whoever we lynch. I don't really think Rae should be lynched, so I'm keeping my vote on Ripple. If a different lynch candidate takes the lead before the Cycle ends, I may move my vote to widen the gap. But as things stand right now, Ripple is still my top suspect and I'd prefer to lynch her over anyone else right now. If not her, then probably Darkness Ascendant, as he still has yet to meaningfully contribute to the lynch discussion. His inactivity leads me to suspect he may be spending most of his game time in an elim doc. That's pure conjecture at this point, but I do feel he's been much quieter than normal.

You're probably think of Ripple. Arraenae voted on Jondesu. These are the posts where Wonko accuses Ripple of defending Jondesu and Ripple responding.

@AliasSheep, you didn't post last Cycle I don't think. Any reason for that? Mostly I'm pinging you so you don't die from inactivity, but I'm curious why you weren't involved in discussion last Cycle as well. @Assassin in Burgundy and @Darkness Ascendant, do either of you have any opinions to add? I can't recall either of you saying much so far. It's important that we get everyone involved. I'm going to vote on Ripple. First she posted saying she was slightly suspicious of Jondesu, but didn't want to do anything rash(because there was a lynch train forming on him), then soon after she responds to Arraenae's points about why she was suspicious of Aman and votes on Arraenae. I feel like suspicion on Arraenae was understandable to a certain extent last Cycle, but the way she did it gave me the feeling she was trying to take the focus off of Jondesu. And now she's voting for Arraenae again, which, I don't hold against her that much, but I could see it as her just going with her previous "suspicion" on Rae without really considering the new facts brought up with Jondesu's alignment, because she already knew Jondesu was evil. She also voted on Ecthelion on Cycle 1, when Ecth was under quite a bit of suspicion. So, since I'm leaning towards Ecth being a villager(his acting like an eliminator is kind of concerning though), that just adds to my suspicion of her(but not much).

I agree with you about Ripple. Soon after I mentioned that the lynch train on Jondesu was alarming, she used that as reason to not vote on him and eventually voted on the next highest lynch target. I'm not very suspicious of Ecth at this point. I can't decide if I really think he's village, but he's not high on my suspect list at the moment. I'm...not really sure about Dankness still. He hasn't really said anything of value yet... Sart, on the other hand, I'm suspicious of. It's most just gut/tone read on his posts so far. I may go into more detail in a later post on him. I'm suspicious of Nathan too, for the same reason you and Aman pointed out. I haven't had a PM with him. It's not so unusual for a new player not to start PM's with others, but the fact that he posted just in time to avoid death from inactivity is worrying. Right now, I'm deciding whether I want to vote on Ripple, Nathan, or Sart. I'm gonna think about it for a bit more before I put a vote down. I'm leaning towards Ripple at the moment.

I'm not gonna be on for the rest of the Cycle, so Orlok, Jondesu. I'm more suspicious of Jondesu than I am of Orlok or Rae, though I'm still suspicious of both of them to some degree.

Fair enough. Lynching 2 people at once...on purpose?! That actually sounds pretty fun. And yeah, I pretty much consider myself the most likely player to be village at this point. I'm about 95% sure. Aman seems likely as well. Wonko, probably, but I could see him being an elim that saw Doc was getting a lot of suspicion in the thread and so he voted on him ahead of others to get credit and then he could have orchestrated Jondesu's PM with me, him, and Jondesu to make himself look good. Nyali, I think is probably village. Daniyah and Stick are ones I have good gut reads on. Hehe, well, in that game, it was known that there was a way for players to change allegiances, so I really probably shouldn't have had as much trust as I did. Now, everyone should trust me completely and never vote on me again.

You seemed to jump on Jondesu really fast Bugsy. Well, you're right that that is a bandwagon vote. I understand the evidence against Jondesu, but he hasn't even argued his innocence yet. I'm still a little suspicious of Jondesu myself, but the fact that he's accumulated so many votes so fast is concerning to me. I'm gonna put a vote on Orlok for starting the Aman lynch. Aman was a easy target to get votes on, since he said he was fine with dying. So with Doc in trouble, I think it'd make a lot of sense for you to vote on Aman like that if you were an elim. There's also the fact that you didn't even mention Doctor in your post regarding the lynch. Doc was leading the votes 3 to the rest of the pack's 1. That will usually prompt some sort of opinion from players that close to the end of a Cycle. I'm also looking at Arraenae for similar reasoning. She voted on Aman and didn't give an opinion on Doc. I'm not saying it's mandatory to give an opinion on every lynch target, but if you're going to try to get someone lynched over another player, I'd expect more reasoning for why your target is a better candidate for the lynch.

Woo! Nice work. I'm gonna look over how that happened more closely, but I'm inclined to agree with Nyali that Jondesu seemed like he was trying to save Doc. He PM'd me and Wonko in a group PM to ask us to move our votes so there wouldn't be a tie(thankfully Alv fixed that problem, though I don't think Aman would have minded dying). Wonko, I voted on Doc because he voted on Aman which made the votes tied between Doc and Aman, and I was suspicious of Doc whereas I wasn't suspicious of Aman.

Sorry, the wording was not too great. >.< I meant that post made me suspicious of you. I was already suspicious of Doc for previous reasons unrelated to you, and was thinking about voting on him, but then you voted on him and your post made me suspicious of you.

I agree with you on Jondesu and maybe on DA. I hadn't really paid much attention to him until you just pointed him out. Which could be something in and of itself, since he's usually pretty talkative. I don't really think Aman's an elim, but I don't really think the elims will kill him either. Maybe he could just not post or anything for the next 48 hours? Edit: Ninja'd by Doc. I'll most likely switch my vote to Doc if nothing changes. Edit2: Eh, might as well do it now. Wonko. Doctor.

One thing about lynches, there's no way to add votes to anyone without actually voting. Rioters can't move votes. So if there's one player with 2 votes and multiple with one, the elims would have to vote on those with 1 vote to get the lynch on them. Obviously, that's still a danger, but mostly later on when the elims will be closer to winning and won't care about revealing themselves. Vote tally(ninja'd by Joe and then edited to include Aman's vote ): Ecthelion(2): Lopen, Nyali, Ripple Lopen(1): Orlok Elbereth(2): Ecthelion, Sart Doctor(2): Wonko, Elbereth Wonko(1): Lopen Elenion(1): Aman Now 3 people are up for the lynch. XD We've got 4 hours to decide who we want to lynch. Aman, sad to see you go. Good luck with NaNo though. I'm not sure I want to lynch Ecthelion. I'm not very suspicious of him. We got some pretty good discussion out of all of that though! So, I'll remove my vote. Ecthelion. I am still kinda suspicious of Doc, but Wonko's post kinda made me suspicious of him now, so I'm not sure. >> Well, I'm going with my gut. Wonko. I feel like your post was sort of a summary of people's posts up to this point, rather than you giving a genuine opinion on things. The lynch on Ecth is losing steam and a couple players stated slight distrust for Doc, so you put the first vote on him to try and get ahead of the other voters. Maybe that's not the case, but it's what my gut's telling me.