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Whoops, yeah. Adam Warlock still has connections with the Guardians of the Galaxy, pretty sure. I doubt they'll just introduce a second Infinity Stone after that being the theme of the first GotG film, though.

Oh don't worry, I'm fully aware that they're not planning this out with the same level of detail, though I don't think they simply shoehorned the Time Stone into Dr Strange, nor are they just spitballing in other ways. Not having two Infinity Stones in the same place is the lesser argument to me than the fact that what Mjolnir does has nothing to do with what the Soul Stone should do. While the abilities and purposes of things certainly change (sometimes in very significant ways) from the comics to the MCU, I don't see any way to make the connection. This is what the Soul Stone/Gem did in the comics according to the Marvel Wiki: I won't be surprised if it does make an appearance in GotG 2, since Adam Warlock had it in the comics (Peter Quill's father in those, though not in the movies apparently), and it has connections there, but I'm expecting to see it first in Infinity War.

I regularly see offers for free eBooks and rarely giveaways for physical books, and I figured it'd be cool to have a thread we can use to share them when we find them! If this has been done, apologies, and I can post this in another thread if so. The one that prompted this is a giveaway of "Earthman Jack vs. The Ghost Planet Special Edition", by Matthew Kadish. I've only just started reading it after downloading it today, but so far I'm intrigued. It's got a lot in common with Douglas Adams' writing style so far, but I've seen people compare it to Firefly, and Star Wars meets Harry Potter, so I figured it was worth checking out. It's currently free here: http://dl.bookfunnel.com/ll4gx3x2js The other place I know to look is NoiseTrade.com, though I don't end up getting books there often. Worth a look, and there's also free music (all legit, being given away by the authors/musicians).

I really don't think there's an Infinity Stone inside Mjolnir. Part of the reason the Aether was sent away from Asgard was because keeping two Infinity Stones together (that and the Tessaract) was too dangerous. Mjolnir resides in Asgard too often for them to ignore that same principle. I think we've seen a good summary of where the Infinity Stones all are, in fact. Mind Stone: Vision's forehead, originally seen in Loki's staff (given to him by Thanos, for unknown reasons except to capture the Tessaract and take over the Earth). Space Stone: Tessaract. Currently in Asgard's vault unless Loki has sent it away (since he's currently posing as Odin). Thor: Ragnarok will likely touch on it. Power Stone: The Orb from GotG, being held by the Nova Core. Reality Stone: Aether, seen in Thor: The Dark World. Delivered to The Collector, who may still have it even after his shop was blown up in GotG, and who will feature prominently in Thor: Ragnarok. Time Stone: Part of the Eye of Agamotto, the necklace that Dr Strange possesses and is currently back in the library of the sorcerers (not sure if there's a specific name for that). This and the Mind Stone are the only Infinity Stones currently known to be on the same planet, but it's likely that no one knows that both are on Earth. Soul Stone: The only Infinity Stone not yet seen, but it wouldn't make sense within Mjolnir. It'll probably be revealed within Infinity War, I would guess, and may already be in Thanos' possession.

That's an interesting one, though not surprising. I don't think it rules out the Oaths and bonds being forcibly broken by some outside force, though. In fact, I can't yet imagine any way it wouldn't have been forced upon them, since as noted there should have been at least a few who refused, even if it would cost them their lives or something even more precious.

Welcome back! How long has it been?

Yep, that's been my biggest issue with the theory that the Recreance was voluntary (as the Vorin church claims), but I hadn't seen a good explanation that I liked as to why and how they were forced into it. Yours is the first that I really like for that.

I was starting to think this was an idea I'd seen before (though rarely) about a difficultly in trying to revive a dead blade, but this is far more interesting. You think the Radiants were basically forced into the Recreance because someone locked their spren, rather than them choosing to abandon their Oaths? That's actually really intriguing, and in fact fits better with the emotions and behavior of the Knights in Dalinar's vision of the Recreance, in my mind. They hadn't lost their powers completely, hence being able to fly (the Windrunners he saw, at least), but the spren had been locked away, and the Radiants he saw seemed…dejected and numb, perhaps feeling betrayed themselves rather than having betrayed the world. If their spren had essentially been murdered, en masse, and them left with only the dead bodies of their closest friends, I could see them simply walking away and abandoning everything, if they felt or knew the betrayal had come from within in some way (either within the Radiants, or just within Alethkar, rather than the Voidbringers).

I've been on your side, but I did just realize something. It's possible that Helaran was a Radiant (or Initiate) but hadn't reached the stage where his spren would become a blade. Most Radiants would find it incredibly difficult to use a dead Shardblade and would in fact abhor the idea, but Helaran always struck me as an insanely strong-willed person. The sort of person who could bring themselves to wield a dead Shardblade while listening to the screams, and yet fight like we saw in that scene. It's still unlikely, sure, but if anyone we've seen in the series could do that, I would bet Helaran would be among that group.

I think all we know for sure is that Nazh got off Threnody, but we don't know if it was via a Perpendicularity or some other method we've yet to be exposed to. Considering how Khriss referred to the pool on First of the Sun and the fact that it was such an anomaly in a non-Shardic system, I would be surprised if there was a pool on Threnody, but it's possible there's some other form of Perpendicularity we haven't seen.

There was a WoB about there being memories Kelsier wouldn't want to keep, which was in response to a question about the medallions. I'm horrible at tracking them down, but I can check. EDIT: It's possible I was misremembering this one, but I think it was a different one. EDIT 2: This is the one I was thinking of (less clear, but still implies it could be the case):

Best option is actually to ping Adam on Facebook. Brandon posted that on Facebook himself a month or so ago, I forget exactly when. He sent me White Sand, Aether of Night, and Mistborn Prime within minutes (literally). Obviously it's not always going to be that fast, but I got the impression it's much easier for him to manage than using the contact form. Brandon's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BrandSanderson Adam's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AdamgHorne

It's been strongly implied that the memory in that coin was one Kelsier didn't want to have anymore, which means it may have been lost to him (intentionally). You're not alone in thinking that Copper compounding could allow for that, though, and I agree with the principle.

Now I'm still Terris, but part of that special Worldbringer sect.

I've never used that, is there anything I need to be able to play other than the password?

@Ecthelion III, are you volunteering to let us try that on you? I do have to say, that looks bad for Kipper. We could have started with two Thugs, certainly (we had a Smoker and a Coppercloud, so maybe we had a Pewterarm and a Thug?), but while I still don't like the logic of those pointing at Kipper over Aonar, this certainly makes me much more suspicious of him. We'll see if a Coinshot decides to take matters into their own hands, but if he is evil, the Inquisitor will likely have Iron to save him anyways. Heck, if he's not evil, they'll probably try to save him anyways to keep us focused on him (I'm remembering a certain person who survived multiple lynches in another game, though they didn't survive this game).

Can someone work up a vote tally, btw? It's almost the end of the cycle, but I'm on mobile and it's tough for me to do that this way.

I'm always happy to justify or reconsider a vote, so thanks for tagging me (I hadn't had the time to think it over in more detail, but I've given it a look now). The biggest reason given for voting Kipper over Aonar right now is your accusation of his role-fishing (backed up by at least Wilson, so I'm not doubting that it happened), right? There things people have claimed he knew that he shouldn't, but no one's provided those details yet so I can't really judge that evidence. As a villager in past games, I've gone on role-fishing expeditions myself several times, both trying to deduce roles and blatantly asking for them. Granted, most of the games I've played haven't been conversion games, but there's a limit to how much we can shackle ourselves to avoid giving away information to a potential future convert without just keeping us from finding out anything important. The villagers biggest issue is that we always start with a big deficit of information compared to the Elims. They don't know everyone's roles either, but knowing who is on each team and knowing their own roles is a big advantage early on. In this game, the Inquisitor has the extra advantage of learning the previous roles of whoever they convert, plus their new role, which helps them a lot in finding out who has dangerous abilities to use against them. The town gets none of that detail, so finding Seekers, Thugs, Lurchers, and Coinshots in particular can be a major advantage to the town (not revealing them publicly, of course, but those roles should usually be trying to find at least a few people they decide to trust, because they're a lot less effective if they go lone wolf and don't ever let anyone know who they are). Point being, I don't find role-fishing inherently suspicious because I've done the same thing as a villager, several times. I've gotten some suspicion for it too, in some of those games, but I don't suspect people who ask my role personally, even if I don't trust them enough to actually reveal it. Now, I haven't heard from Kipper directly, so I can't verify his side of that, and if he did indeed have knowledge he shouldn't have been able to, that's suspicious. If you have anything that you're able to prove, I'd be interested, but I haven't seen anything in particular. As for Aonar, he's an intentionally trollish and erratic player. A lot like DA, just with somewhat different manifestations. For players like that, saying they're playing like they usually do is less than useless. They hide behind that erraticness. They take advantage of it. I don't trust a player like Aonar to have a pattern of behavior that's so easy to place as Wilson says, though admittedly Wilson has a lot more experience playing with him. Still, while I can never trust Wilson particularly, that relationship isn't something I can completely ignore, so I am taking her perspective into account. Your own claims I always have to be very suspicious of too, btw, since in AG3 and other games, you've had me completely fooled, so I maintain a constant wariness (even more than Len, since he just betrayed our Elim team in MR17, but he wasn't hiding his true intentions particularly effectively). Having the two of you be the ones to argue so strongly to move the vote from Aonar to Kipper is actually setting off warning bells in my mind. For now, that sums up (in a fair bit of detail) the reason I'm leaving my vote on Aonar unless I get more information proving or disproving some of what I've seen claimed. If I don't hear from Kipper at all, in fact, I'll wonder about the claims against him, since it seems very unlikely that the Inquisitor would go completely inactive at this point in the game, though it wouldn't rule him out as a convert.

This has been consistently misinterpreted. Brandon has said "it's a plague of the sniffles". In other words, they're calling it a plague because a large number of people are getting sick, which never happens, not because people are dying.

Did you know that officers used to be empowered to execute an sentry they discovered still asleep while on duty?

Okay, so I'm looking over my previous analysis, and while I covered those I was most suspicious of at the time (and I'm including here my updated analysis on them), I also had mostly ignored Aonar and Rae, who also met my criteria when it came to the voting patterns. This got longer than expected, so I'm spoilering the big parts of each one, and just leaning the main conclusion out in the open. Aonar: Very suspicious of Aonar as the first convert. Rae: Village read all along, not a likely convert. She tends to attract suspicion anyways, so I probably wouldn't convert her if I had been the Inquisitor. Back to the others: Ecth: Since there hasn't been a conversion since D4, leaning village for now, unlikely to be converted. Lopen: Leaning towards Inquisitor. Randuir: Neutral read, leaning slightly village now. Elenion: Neutral read, leaning village for now, but may be converted later in the game. All in all, Aonar and Lopen are my current top suspicions, and I'm more confident in my analysis of Aonar as a convert than of Lopen as the Inquisitor, so Aonar gets my vote at this time.

Thanks. I was in AG3, but the others were all long before I joined, and I was a Thug in AG3, so my role was completely passive. Either I didn't know that or I forgot about the way the Smoker role worked, can't recall at the moment. I'm actually a good way through my analysis post here, so I'll hopefully have it up soon.

Hmm, I wasn't aware of that. I've only ever played roles where you could affect others or yourself, but they didn't affect both. Is that from the LG2 rules? If so, I think I missed it.

Convenient to include yourself in that group. I'm not quite sure about your conclusion that the first convert couldn't be in there, either, since even though they're probably a smoker (unless it didn't take), they might have smoked the Inquisitor that cycle, or maybe someone else. I'm inclined to believe about Meta, and in fact, I'd become more suspicious if he comes back, since he could be a convert, though I'd be willing to give him at least a round or two in the name of encouraging activity. I'm about to begin my analysis of possible converts (I think we're more likely to catch them than the Inquisitor at the moment, since there will have been more indication of that hopefully via voting patterns and actions that were taken or blocked). No guarantees on when I'll pull it off, though, today might be a tough day. Before I go to bed, though, I'll at least post whatever I do have.

And that's Brandon's intention, to a degree. He wants everyone to just use the names the way they sound right to that person, even if he had a "correct" pronunciation in mind.