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Atm I don't think Stark will be building Bucky anything Depends if Tony can forgive Bucky and by extension Cap. The implication at the end is that he has forgiven Cap at least a little, enough to call upon him if he needs the Cap-vengers.

There are just so many problems with natural disasters as powers. Narrative-wise, i mean.

.... The plan will commence shortly. Send me the updated details of our plan of attack, with these Destructors as part of it. In addition, I will expect your payment for these services rendered. I hope that your "calculator" knows what he is doing. Winterspell smiled as he read the last part of the note. Indeed, Blindsight knew exactly what he was doing. The Epic had never let him down before, never been wrong. He wouldn't fail him now. The Ice King froze the small slip of paper, which had been delivered by a teleporter in a hidden room, and smashed in into tiny shards. He collected the shards with his power and buried them into the ice of his fortress itself, to join the other messages he had received from Dragoon. Likely, he thought, amused, they will not be found. At least not until his fortress falls and someone pieces them together, of course. "Fish!" He called, and the Epic, standing at attention, saluted. "Yes, sir!" "Bring the frozen corpses to the basement. I wish to store them there, until I can decide what to do with them." "Sir, yes, sir!" Fish obeyed. Obviously, the excuse for the order was a pretence. He needed the bodies in the basement so that Fish could move them, underwater, to Dragoon as well as the updated plans. It shouldn't take Blindsight more than- "Sir, I have finished my calculations." Predictably, Blindsight entered the room not long after reading the note himself, bowing lightly. "I will say that I am uncertain that we have good odds for the success of this plan. I calculate a mere 24% chance of a complete success, and that is of course not including the various partial successes and outcomes that can be really classed as neither. I would heartily suggest an extraction plan for us and the Keep Epics if, as I have predicted there is a 36% chance of happening, the mission is a complete failure and the Metal, Deathgale and Mary come after us." Winterspell frowned, but nodded. "Calculate one, but I doubt I will use it. I have lived my life under the shadow of these tyrants for too long. If we flee they can chase us. Chase me. Icesteel Keep will emerge victorious in this struggle, as the new power on the border, or it will fall into the waves. And all of us with it."

Have we found a new fate for Nighthound? And Then Nighthound Suffered

definitely, i'd never do it. but still, scary idea.

Yeah that sounds like a solid theory. Rayse was apparently already an awful person before taking up Odium, whereas Ati was a good person. However, I'd wonder how much difference that would even make. Surely Leras would have been at least slightly more connected to Preservation than Ati was to Ruin? Then why were they so perfectly equal?

I just had a semi-horrifying idea about an Epic or Epic government who figures out how to make motivators. They make prototypes from living Epics and discover that it causes them pain. But what would a domineering Epic faced with the choice between a servant with a power and a potential LOT of servants with that power? Chooses the latter of course! But the Epic is uncertain how they work, exactly. To eliminate risks, they keep the motivatored Epics alive. Chained up, trapped in some way. Alive and in CONSTANT pain due to the mass use of their motivators. Pretty grim fate, even for an Epic O.O

What if Autonomy made the metal, and Odium sent the Fakeless Immortals? Could they be working together, in separate ways? Autonomy wanting to free the people of Scadrial from Harmony, and being tricked by Odium who (as per the Fakeless) wants to wipe out the population as part of his plan? Is Autonomy just a useful idiot? Or does he know full well what Odium wants/is planning? Maybe his whole schtick is that he doesn't want the Shards to control people so he helps Odium destroy them so that people can be free?

It is curious that if these Elantrians did indeed recently come from Sel, that technology on Sel hasn't advanced very far. Hundreds of years after Raoden, guards are still using pikes? No guns, or crossbows? Although Sel didn't seem like a particularly war-like planet, even moreso after the return of the Elantrians. But I would agree that they are using this liquid Dor to have power far away from Elantris, and perhaps maintain their Connection to Arelon? Its a similar liquid as was in that orb, yeah? the orb that allowed a Connection to Preservation. Perhaps the stuff they drink is 'keyed' to Arelon?

Certainly, if the range is like 20km or so. We know gifting range is 15.

Epics tend to have a range, so I'd say definitely Valere would need one too.

Sounds interesting, certainly. Not overpowered either. What are his motivations, modus operandi, and personality like? I could definitely see him in either Corvallis or Salem as an established resident @Elodin: you will need to be about 1000% more specific about this group of four people haha who and what are they?

Well in regards to Ruin and Preservation being temporal, those names do have quite heavy connotations with time. Preservation, as in "preserving stuff over long periods of time", and Ruin as in "all things are ruined with time" Other Shards have little such connection, they are "in the moment", so to speak. Dominion over NOW. Odium hating what is NOW. Endowment providing benefits NOW. That sort of thing. Although, Cultivation implies a time, so maybe she/he is a temporal shard too.

I think Marvel phases are more about the "style" of movie as opposed to chronological groupings, perhaps. My take: Phase 1: Origins -Elantris -Mistborn first series -Warbreaker -Stormlight 1 Phase 2: Connections -Stormlight 2 (and rest of arc 1?) -Mistborn second series -Elantris sequels Phase 3: Fusion -Mistborn third series -Stormlight arc 2 -etc etc So phase 1 are the barely connected origin stories, phase 2 has some minor interconnections of a more serious manner, and things start becoming more meta and cosmere-aware, and phase 3 is where "things get serious" in terms of connectedness, although we don't know how connected things will end up being from the character's perspectives

I think he realised that it was an accident on Vision's part, but Falcon was more responsible as being the original target of the shot.

And I am solidly Team Iron Man, but I have a lot of sympathy for Team Cap in that situation. Well, providing the panel controlling them isn't incompetent (which is probably will be). Cap did raise some very good points, however, and only time can tell if he is right. Ultimately the fight was pointless because I feel like if Bucky had of been taken prisoner by Team Iron Man and imprisoned, they would have gotten to the bottom of the conspiracy eventually and he would have said ANYWAY "I'm too dangerous, freeze me". Bucky should have said "let them take me, go to Siberia without me. After all, I don't need to go myself, and placing myself near a guy who can control me is a bad idea on my part! You go with Iron Man and stop Zemo, I am to dangerous to be out and about anyway." But no, he doesn't!

yep, same guy. No powers I think, just some exoskeleton bits, although the way he shrugged off the taser-shot implies that he has some sort of inherent pain resistance as well. ("I don't work like that no more!") haha yep XD exactly! brilliant! All we need! yeah, we give superheroes a lot of leeway. I mean usually they don't kill innocent people accdientally- they are lucky, and have usually perfect judgement when it comes to this stuff. they won't mess up due to fog of war like real cops and soldiers do, and attack the wrong place or blow up the wrong building. When they beat up someone who they think committed a crime- it is always the right guy. Very fair point, although judging from the way we see Cap save some people, and Bucky saying "I won't kill people" (except when he accidentally nearly does) they have enough control of their strength to not punch lethally. Bucky at least, as a trained super-soldier, certainly has enough control to kill and not-kill when he wants to. Likewise, Cap is very familiar with his strength and hand-to-hand combat, I can imagine him controlling himself enough to keep the blows non-lethal. Although, I am also a bit dissatisfied that no-one died. I thought for sure Rhodes was a goner. SHOULD have been a goner, would have upped the stakes a lot more. Reminded them that they shouldn't be fighting each other when the consequences are severe and real. Reminded them that they can't just shoot and punch their friends and expect it to turn out without consequences.

It got me thinking about, what crimes would we charge Superheroes if they obeyed laws like normal people? After all, Cap is just a tough, morally-righteous guy with a shield, what makes him better, from an objective third perspective, than a random off the street who might also have a shield and a sense of morality? So I started looking at the things that they did, and what crimes we could charge them with- For the airport fight, easily resisting arrest, assaulting a police office (multiple counts, assuming Team Iron Man counts as policemen after the Accords), massive property damage, and arguably reckless endangerment (if not attempted murder, for all the fighting and potentially dangerous things they did to Team Iron Man). Team Iron Man, of course, being deputised by the Accords wouldn't have to worry about any of that. But those crimes could easily land Team Cap in jail for a while, as they obviously end up there. For Cap helping Bucky, easily many counts of assaulting police officers, resisting arrest, LOTS of reckless endangerment with the car chase.... not good Cap, that's gotta be a year in prison at least. And in Lagos.... well obviously the explosion is many counts of manslaughter for Wanda. And one could argue attacking those Hydra agents could have been murder/attempted murder/assault, because arguing self defence when you attacked them (although it was in defence of others maybe? but all the scientists were already dead? not sure) wouldn't work perhaps. Plus endangerment with all the shooting among civilians and such. We let superheroes get away with a lot, don't we?

It was brilliant! I love how they completely skipped Spiderman's origin story. We have already seen two, we know how he becomes Spiderman. I honestly don't care at this point, he gets bitten by a spider, move on aha Although I wish they had of kept Crossbones on a little more than 3 minutes, he was cool. The use of Zemo was also interesting, as he is a Hydra leader in the Comics. Perhaps he gets recruited and escapes from Bilbo's prison?

I think it is well within the bounds of an acceptable power.

In terms of Shardbearers vs Koloss, I can easily see Shardbearers working together in small teams, supporting each other and being able to hold off against a large number of Koloss. Both opponents have comparable reach, but Shardblades can cut through Koloss swords and arms very easily. As demonstrated by the effects of a Chasmfiend claw on Elohkar, it takes a large amount of force to crack even sabotaged Shardplate- I think it would take a few solid whacks in one place to begin cracking, even when wielded by a Koloss. Should the 'bearers be supporting each other, I think they have a decent chance of forming a solid formation. Koloss bodies would pile up, and it would become harder and harder for new ones to attack. A single swing could kill a handful of Koloss. That said, they would eventually be taken down, for sure. They aren't the nearly invincible warriors against koloss as they are against humans, especially if they go it alone. And against hundreds of thousands of koloss? won't make much difference overrall

I have a hard time believing that Wax would have happily gone along with the Final Empire, however. He has too much internal goodness. Like Elend, he would have despised it. At the very least, despised wanton killing of Skaa.

oh yeah good point Quiver, what if Sentry has a vague awareness of what happens in the posters, and she can focus on one or a few to get the full picture if she wants. So she is sub-consciously continually scanning for suspicious behaviour, and when she notices it she snaps to a full view out of it. And perhaps if the posters are destroyed quickly and quietly enough without anyone in view (like from the side), she won't immediately notice the destruction? she also has a lot less area to look out of than Regalia, who would have seen... basically the entirety of Babilar and the surrounding waters at once

Sophia knocked gently on the door, preparing herself for another terrifying encounter with FuzzyBun. The Epic was minor in power- with only the ability to summon and control cute rabbits, but she was nothing like the cute critters she called forth. A mere week ago Fuzzy had gotten annoyed at a maid who had allegedly not folded her towels properly. The maid had been found dangling from Fuzzy's balcony, hanged by a towel and her mouth stuffed with rabbit fur. That said, Sophia shivered, Fuzzy wasn't any worse than most other Epics in Salem. Silence answered her knock. She waited. She knocked again, slightly louder. Once again, silence, and waiting. Sophia frowned. "That's odd...." Fuzzy always answered the door, smiling and chuckling as she petted a rabbit, dead or alive. She was about to leave when she leaned on the door and it opened. The maid started, but did nothing as the door slowly swung open. This is it, I'm dead, she's going to kill me, or feed me to her bunnies, or or or.... But nothing happened. Fuzzy should have been awake by now, it was mid-afternoon after all. Sophia saw two plates of food- breakfast and lunch, sitting untouched on trays on the table. What was going on? "Miss.... FuzzyBun? Are you there, m'lady?" Receiving no response, Sophia slowly went further into the apartment. "I'm the maid, I'm just here to gather your washing. Hello?" The curtains and blinds were shut, the room shadowy and ill-lit. The door to her bedroom loomed up ahead, shrouded in darkness and slightly open. "H-hello?" The maid approached, curiosity overwhelming caution. She gazed at the foreboding crack of darkness that led to Fuzzy's bedroom. "M-Miss Fuzzy?" She opened the door. Sophia screamed. .......................... Hotel security arrived shortly, seeing a sight that none had ever seen outside of the Dreamstate. A dead Epic. The Salem Police Force was notified, and Mouldbreaker was informed.

sure, I can write a quick scene of a vanilla finding her.