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Re Sword Discussion: I'm confused as to what's under suspicion? His weakness, or his proficiency? If it's his proficiency, it's nothing more than he's happened to enjoy sword play, no big deal. If it's his weakness...it can't be swords. If he uses swords to fight, his weakness can't be swords. There's no getting around that. You'd either have to change the weakness or change the fighting style. There's really no way around it, so long as the weakness is, verbatim, "swords". Out of simple curiosity, why are you wanting the weakness to be swords, specifically?

I don't want to say more at risk of breaking the current spoiler policy, so if you'd like a bit more details without plot spoilers then PM me.

Definitely Elantris and Shadows for Silence in the Forests of Hell. I'd also highly, highly recommend both Way of Kings and Words of Radiance before reading Secret Histories. You should also be reading Warbreaker before Words of Radiance. Now, if you don't care about noticing Cosmere things, then just Elantris and Shadows for Silence in the Forests of Hell.

Wait, what happened? Everyone was so gung-ho for it!

It could have been an Elantrian fabrial, though. They have the ability to make them using AonDor (though it would require a hack to get it to work over near Scadrial - perhaps that's why the stones making the fortress are glowing?)

I'm not sure I agree, I didn't say anything about domination or suppressing the freedom of others. I assume you're referring to the economic points I made, which the obvious counter-statement would be that as the employee getting paid less than what you deem is right, you're free to seek employment elsewhere, and for the hiring practices, as the client you're free to choose where you go to look for services. Please note I'm not saying this is right, nor do I agree with this, but this is what a libertarian is; someone who believes in free will, the government shouldn't be able to tell you what to do. I would suspect right libertarians tend to lean right on social issues, and left libertarians lean left on economic issues. Though if you do have a better definition please correct me, it's very possible I'm wrong. It's why running for president in the US as a libertarian is so tough; which of the two major parties do you run under? Because you can't run under the Libertarian party due to the US's two party system, and each of the two parties will have an issue with either your economic policies or your social policies, which often cripples you.

Libertarians are people who believe every individual's liberties are sacred (if I'm understanding it correctly). In other words, the government shouldn't be able to tell you what to do; you're free to do as you please. Examples: -freedom to marry whomever, regardless of sex. -freedom to worship whomever -freedom to treat your body however you choose (drugs, abortion, etc) -freedom to employ and serve whomever you want -freedom to pay employees whatever you feel is right -freedom to not pay taxes It boils down to being economically conservative and socially liberal. You being labeled a left libertarian likely means you're not as economically conservative as the "ideal" libertarian would be. As a note, these quizzes aren't usually too accurate, though they often allow for a very basic analysis.

Keep in mind that Drifter and Wit are the same man, 300 years apart. When Hoid comments to Shallan, we're missing about 300 years of context from when he puts the beat down on Kelsier.

Holy Cosmere Information Batman! That novella is a treasure trove! I liked it. I didn't love it, but then I'm not a giant fan of the first Mistborn trilogy anyways. It was nice to see some of the more annoying mysteries of the first trilogy finally get answered. I officially will be looking for extremely white hair as a tell for Hoid now, in addition to the sharp face and nose bit. I'm not sold on the Elantrians being bad guys. Nothing in the novella points to such. If nothing else, they felt more like scientists, wanting to record what it's like to Ascend, and gather all the additional knowledge that being a Shard grants you. I'm really hoping we get to see more of this elder council of Elantrians. Until next time, Alonoe, Elrao, and Riina. Vax popped up again, thank you Ati. Though his short question "Vax?" almost makes it seem like Vax is a person, in context. Perhaps We've got another name for a Shardholder, and his/her planet named the planet after the being? And speaking of that scene, dang it Kelsier don't just go punching people! I really wanted to know if Ati was still feeling Ruin's Intent, or if he was back to his original self. Who knows if we'll ever get this chance again!? The revelation that all the original Shardholders conspired together to kill Adonalsium is truly frightening. All these beings that we originally presumed to be upstanding individuals, are murderers. The question remains if any of them are Snape-like, and partook in the killing because Adonalsium asked them to. But it really colors my impressions of Cultivation, Honor, Preservation, and Endowment, which is saddening. Really brings to question who is really, truly, trustable. Who was it Hoid is talking about here: "You need some help, friend. I know a guy. Tall, bald, wears lots of earrings. Have a chat with him next--" Is this him talking about Sazed as he is at that time, Sazed as he will be the Shard (meaning futuresight for Hoid!), or someone else entirely? And finally, Spanky. Oh Spanky, you were great. May we meet again some day. Hopefully Hoid turning you into a boat wasn't particularly painful, considering it seems like he hijacked your "soul's" movement into the Beyond. Edit: Oh! And though Scadrial's land was swampy in the Cognitive Realm, why wasn't it just water, like in Shadesmar? The novella shows that Scadrial's water is land, but Scadrial's land isn't just water....why did it have substance for Kelsier and others to stand on? Then again, Hoid had to use Spanky as a boat, so perhaps it's due to Kelsier's dead state, caught between physical and spiritual?

Not sure if it matters, but this was in my Kindle edition too.

Hmm, I see your points. I was thinking that the only way they could linger would be if they were permanent, such as the transmutation, but I suppose they can't be permanent if he's able to actually affect people.

Stormlight spoilers

1) All right, reasons 1 and 2 are good for me. As Edge said, though, 3 doesn't really work. If a weakness is triggered, then all powers cease working. The only exceptions are when there's a variable to the meter. For example, the Epic with the Kool-Aid weakness had her powers severely weaken when she touched Kool-Aid, but it was only when she actually drank it that her powers completely negated. For your storms, it would be similar to any kind of storm, regardless of severity, causing some form of detriment, with your powers being more and more weakened as the storm gets stronger, up until your weakness is fully exposed, and your powers cease to exist, which means; all enhancements disappear (unless they're like Steelheart's transmutation power, which I've expressed a desired aversion to but others haven't), your healing is null and something that could kill a vanilla would kill you, your beast disappears (likely through melting as Edge said), and you wouldn't be able to make chasms. 2) So anything that cuts blood from the brain, then, would make it difficult for him to heal, or would it kill him? So what would decapitation do? 3) All right, well, keep in mind that no Epics know how to nullify their weakness. Megan figured it out by accident, and that is in this game's future. Up until that point (and even during that scene) Epics are very frightened of their weakness, and anytime an Epic has been confronted by their weakness, they tend to get really furious. An option that would solve both the concern I'm raising and the concern that Edge has raised again regarding the ease of setting off his weakness would be to pick a different weakness. I'm not saying you have to do this, but it would alleviate both problems. Thanks for the answers, by the way. Working kinks out like this really improves the quality of the game.

Wait...really? Have I seriously not noticed this until this very moment? I feel like my whole life is a lie...

Yes but none of that is Kelsier explicitly returning. He's still dead. We've still lost him. But this would mean he actually came back. It's like Obi-Wan in ESB. Yes, he's not quite gone gone because he's a Force ghost, but he's still dead. His death still meant something important to Luke and the viewer. He didn't actually come back. Also please don't say anything about Secret Histories. Obviously what you mentioned isn't actually a spoiler since we've known that, but you're still in the Bands thread, not the Histories thread. I'm sure I'm not the only one who hasn't had a chance to read it yet.

I understood that, but my point is it doesn't make sense. Oregon isn't the only place in the world to not "often" suffer from major natural disasters. If his healing is as powerful as described, making him a High Epic, why would he bother going to the one place on Earth that has a resident who can actively choose to activate his weakness on a whim? Add in the complete and utter fear, downright terror, that Epics feel towards their weaknesses, and I can't see an Epic just willing to work as an underling for the one person who can activate theirs.

So...what can kill him? If he can heal and live through a gunshot to the head, what's the point of the armor? A bullet in the brain kills pretty much instantly, so to survive that effectively makes one invincible. Also, why would he move to the one city, in all the world, that is ruled by an Epic that can activate his weakness on a whim?

This is definitely my favorite Wax & Wayne book. As someone who has been in love with Steris since Alloy of Law, this book finally gave me what I've been wanting; tons of Steris in all her glory. I've never wanted a fictional character to be real more than her...she's perfect. Steris alone has made this my favorite of the three, not to mention everything else the book did right. I'm really happy that Marasi chose to relinquish the power to Wax. I was getting tired of her complaining about being in Wax's shadow the whole time, because simply feeling that way is her actively putting herself in his shadow. She wasn't trying to be her own person, but was rather trying to be Female!Wax, so her realizing this and choosing to be her own person was a very satisfying end to her arc for the book. That Wayne chapter in the beginning felt like a filler episode of an anime. I was very happy with the ending of the chapter, but the first 75% of it was a waste, showing us things we already know about Wayne. Yes, we know he is very proficient with accents. Yes, we know he likes to method act constantly. Yes, we know he likes to "trade" with people. Yes, we know he's smarter than he looks. You didn't need to shove it all in our face for an entire chapter. I'm glad we've finally gotten Scadrial's name for the star cluster in the sky. Roshar calls it Taln's Scar, Scadrial calls it the Red Rip. I saw both the Southern Scadrian and the Telsin twists coming from rather early on. The moment VenDell showed the picture of Telsin, I knew she was working for the Set, it was too perfect for ReLuur to just so happen to take a photo at just the right time to get her face, unless it was an intentional plant (whether Set planted the photo on ReLuur or Telsin planted herself in ReLuur's presence when snapping photos). As for the Southern Scadrians, we've been contemplating that they were using Allomantic tech, so the moment that there started being weird tech I assumed it was Southern influence. I'm a bit upset by the highly likely Kelsier twist. I don't want him back. He was a good character, and bringing him back really undermines the feeling of loss when he dies. I don't want that ruined. Here's hoping it's Marsh, good ole' Iron Eyes. I'm very interested in learning more about the Southern Scadrians, but I worry that Brandon's created too many things that need explaining for The Lost Metal. He has to flesh out the Set, explain their kandra-things, delve into Trell, somehow resolve all of that, and then add to it the mysteries of the Southern Scadrians, as well as the issue of the looming Basin Civil War. Any one of those could be an entire book unto itself, but he's set it up so it's all in one book (or he leaves us asking a ton of questions). Even at a "normal" length for his books (600-800 pages) that's a lot of content to cover, let alone the Wax & Wayne length (300-500). I was a little sad with MeLaan's role feeling like a sidekick role, with it feeling like she didn't get much screen time, but her statement about Wayne at the end, along the lines of "The air tasted familiar. She'd tasted him before" or whatever, sent chills down my spine. Very good scene that conveyed a lot in very few lines. Woo, good book. Looking forward to the next. I'm happy we aren't left with a major cliff hanger, as it makes the wait far easier. Edit: Oh yeah, and this was me when reading Wayne "killing" Telsin:

Isn't Telsin a Lurcher/Coinshot, which would explain Marasi's gun quote without Suit actually using any powers? I feel like it mentioned her affecting metal. Another indent after a break incident: Page 386.

Didn't see a typo thread yet, so here goes. I've only stumbled across one so far. Page 194, the first paragraph after the break is missing its indentation.

Hey Chasmfiend, nice post. I apologize for not bringing this up earlier, I had no idea you were coming to Corvallis. A few things; 1) As Mestiv noted, it's probably easiest for you to enter through one of the other checkpoints. Noticeable ones would be the Albany Checkpoints to the northeast, the Tangent Checkpoints to the east, the Wildlife Refuge Checkpoint to the south, the Alsea Highway Checkpoint to the southwest, the Gellatly Checkpoint to the west, and the Beazell Checkpoint slightly north of that. Here's a map with all of the important locations placed on it. 2) Your chasm power won't really go over well with the Queens. Even using it in the southwestern portion of the map, Cornucopia would get really ticked off if you murdered her plants. If you want to use it and not piss the current rulers off, you'll probably have to do it in the northwest, where the terrain is really rugged and foresty. Of course your other option is to just piss them off 3) How fast does Chasmfiend heal? What can kill him? From the way your profile reads, it doesn't sound like he's a High Epic, but it's important to know. For example, my character Buttercup also has healing powers, but anything that renders her heart of brain useless would kill her, as she can't heal instantly, which keeps her from being a High Epic. 4) Perhaps more importantly, how does his healing interact with his Property Enhancement? If he makes his skin stronger or impossible to break, can he become effectively invincible due to his healing powers? To put it another way, do these two powers compliment each other - cover each others weaknesses? Thanks for the answers, and again I'm sorry I somehow missed him.

All right, this isn't some hardcore theory or anything, but more something that made me chuckle. Also, apologies if this has been said before, my quick searching didn't find anything of it, and I didn't want to dig deeper since I still haven't quite finished the book. Note: I did see the thread discussing it being Khriss, but it didn't mention the broadsheet ad. So at the party in New Seran, the strange woman who approaches Wax and begins jabbering about the intricacies of the magic system really felt, to me, like Khriss or at the very least someone else related to her. Given her knowledge of conservation of momentum, and redshifting, I'm willing to bet it's Khriss. But that very special ad in the broadsheet also points to Khriss. You know, the Do Your Metal Tools Speak To You? ad, with the hammer saying "Hello!" Here's the ad's text: "Your neighbors probably don't want to hear about it, But WE do! Visit 27 Ralen Place. Ask for K or N. Bring the talking metal with you." K or N? You can't hide that easily, Khriss and Nazh! Though I have to say, I was a little sad when the address wasn't 17 Ralen Place. Though this begs the question of why they suspect some sentient metal is on Scadrial. Are they looking for Spren, Seons and Skaze, or Type IV Biochromatic Entities?