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Yup, that's what I meant. Thanks for the correction.

I think that Truthwatcher Voidbinders are weird. There are several things on the Voidbinder chart that sets them apart from the other symbols present. Notice how the Truthwatcher symbol is perfectly symmetrical while the other orders are not. Also take note of what seems to be a double eye of the Almighty at the center of the Truthwatcher symbol, complete with a sideways hourglass shape that is often used to describe double eyes. I think we just don't know enough about Voidbinding to say whether or not Renarin seems to be one, but surely his powers are nothing we have seen yet. You also didn't really engage my point that the Fused and their powers seem to be derived from what looks exactly like Fabrial magic (a system we know can produce the exact powers we see from the Fused in this book). Sorry for the late reply! I haven't read through this whole thread, so let me know if you talked about something relevant to my post and I missed it.

For Hemalurgy to work the person spiking has to have Intent to use Hemalurgy, and it didnt seem like Moash was conciously trying to spike Jezrien, so i really doubt this is Hemalurgy.

Im still convinced that the Fused arent Voidbinding, but are utilizing fabrial magics. Trapping Cognitive Entities in their gemhearts is what grants them the surges, that is pretty much exactly what fabrial magic is. I also think that Renarin has the powers of a Truthwatcher, as well as Voidbinding powers. Those visions are a power we havent seen from the ten surges, seeing as how it is completely new im positive it is a Voidbinding.

Not as far as I know.

Second sentance of the above paragraph. The plural of 'axis' is 'axes', not 'axi'.

Called it!

Fancy color hype!

As someone who found it, if you really want to find and early copy, I suggest going to smaller, non-chain bookstores. Places like Barnes and Nobel are more likely to be under orders from management to not sell it early

The WoB you are recalling says that only some Shards have numbers associated with them iirc.

https://www.tor.com/2017/11/06/oathbringer-non-spoiler-review/

I love that this forum is a place where discussions rooted in belief don't immediately turn to crap-slinging matches . This is actually an interesting discussion! @Steeldancer and @Islington, if you can imagine yourself without your belief, does that version of you still believe in absolute morality? Why? And I have the opposite questions for you, @Calderis. edit: Ninja'd

With the titular sword making an appearance this week, and who it was given to, I thought would be start to analyze Amaram as the Oathbringer author. Lets run through some of these: Epigraphs that fit Amaram We know that Amaram has done some things that could be considered heresy. He disobeyed Alethi code on who aquisition of Shards, writes despite being a man, and seems to have helped/tried to help Voidbringers return to Roshar. I would say he holds some heretical views, but obviously some more of what hes done will have to be made common knowledge before he hypothetically writes this. Amaram, certainly has a history of painting himself in a dishonest light, so I could see him addressing this if he was to write Oathbringer. This is a bit of a stretch, but he has had people who looked up to him heavily murdered, and that actually is a piece of info that is well known. I could only see this being written if Amaram get a wake up call and realizes that hes messed up, both in what he did to Kaladin and what he did as a Son of Honor. Conclusion I still think a few other characters seem much more likely candidates, but him having inherited the sword is certainly points in his favor. For him to be the author i think he would have to be a surprise tertiary character with some kind of arc, but that is a possibility. Part two, according to Brandon, has some new viewpoint characters and is largely character driven/slower paced. I'm hyped to finally finish this set of long winded epigraphs next week.

Necro-ing again. And triple posting. Now that we know that we have a good idea that death is connected to the Unmade, I find this theory more likely.

She wasn't surprised, she was on the chase. If what you guys think happened was what Brandon was trying to convey, then she saw the thing, chased it into a room (which she found empty) and decided to stop, cast a bunch of illusions, go into a battle stance, then not take back in her Stormlight like she had been doing despite the prescence of a threat. That just doesn't make much sense to me.

They are bound to Braize just like the Heralds/Voidbringers are. They can come to Roshar during a desolation. The murders started right after the Everstorm first hit, and if this thing seems to have been corrupted by Odium. I believe that it is using his investiture. Edit: We have also know that some Cognitive Entities are able to use powers without Investiture.

The ability to easily hear Brandon's inflections are the biggest thing for me so far. Much more interesting to be able to hear the Brandon himself say what you are reading,.

Read part 2 in the OB spoilers board, if you read OB spoilers. I think that they could be corrupted (seeing as how Odium can corrupt Spren), making desolations worse.

Not if you can fly

She doesn't reclaim the Light as she did with her illusions earlier in the scene and she stops chasing the creature for a second. I've seen a theory that the pictures in her notebook used to be the pictures of the ones that were cast. If youre right that she casted them then that scene could have been written a lot less confusingly while still implying that she did it to stop her self for some reason. Why would that even be, though. I dont really see a very good reason for her having cast those, even taking her mental illness into account. edit: Also, her going into a battle stance seems like an action of surprise to me It also seems suspicious to me that Pattern told her that he didn't see it, even though it seemed to be present for awhile and she chased it for a sec. Feels to me like hes avoiding he issue.

Intro This theory is very much so a part 2 to my The Greater Power of the Knights Radiant, so check that out if you already haven't. It is kinda necessary to understand this theory Corrupted Radiants Something that caught me completely off guard in chapter was when the creature Shallan runs into cast illusions at her. Read the below passage. I know that many people believe this being to be one of the ten deaths, but we havent seen the ten deaths directly use to surges as of yet, and we dont really have any suggestion that they can. I also dont think it is an unamade: as people have pointed out, this seems a tad too week to be one of them. The fact that this being was able to manipulate illumination is very suspicious to me, how ever. I propose this: that being was a corrupted Lightweaver shade. The copy-cat mechanic is awfully similar to how Shallan has to draw a picture before she can cast an illusion, and this thing was literally described as a Shadow. This being also seemingly interacted with Shallan's notebook as of chapter 27, i know that people believe that she did those drawings but I find it suspicious that they only appeared after she came into contact with this thing. It also fits with why Radiants dying would make the desolations worse, as @Calderis mentioned on the Discord. More supporting evidence is the blurb for Oathbringer that is quite old now. Read it below: I don't see how one of the ten deaths is a "dark secret", if the creature is being talked about here (which i suspect it is, were almost at the end of part one). Implications If this creature is a corrupted Lightweaver shade and my Greater Power theory is correct, I suspect that this ability is what the Epigraphs have described, read the below epigraph with this theory in mind: I would say that going to Braize (I suspect the author somehow escapes before being corrupted) would be a pretty bad experience, one that would probably convince others that you are dead and would probably result in things worse than death. Conclusion If you guys see any holes in the theory or want to comment, post away! If you read this and you're confused about some of the assumptions I'm making, check out the above theory I linked.

It's been a pleasure. I'm probably going to be using this as much as anybody so might as well help get it to where it needs to be

I think that tthis affect may cause Desolations, as Nale explains in the titular quote. If it was just that they go to Braize I would agree, but this whole 'greater power will be naturally discovered and cause a Desolation' thing convinces me when attached to the theory.

Maybe something like "topiaryspren" or something following that idea. It seems like they related to Cultivation and a comparison was made on the Discord by someone that breaking something down to an end of your own seems like a gardener clipping bushes or a farmer using pesticides. I also heavily support the Keenspren theory.

Good points all around. I'm more convinced of something happening to the Radiants after they die, this is just the least crackpot explaination. Others I've thought of include the Shard plate being involved in them becoming CS, them becoming something less like a normal CR and something more corrupted, etc. Thanks for the detailed response!