Long Game 76: At the Forests of Madness

[Quintessential she/her]

12 minutes ago, Szeth_Pancakes said:

Yeah, but Dannex isn't suspicious.

How am I suspicious again? I don't feel like scrolling back through 7 pages to find what you said : P

[Mat he/him]

15 minutes ago, Azmine_king said:

Is there even a case on Randby other than they're inactive?

No :P. How could there be?

1 minute ago, Quintessential said:

How am I suspicious again? I don't feel like scrolling back through 7 pages to find what you said : P

I believe it was your tone, using 'lol' and  and all that but I'm not sure. There might have been something else :P.

[Szeth Pancakes he/they]

2 minutes ago, Quintessential said:

How am I suspicious again? I don't feel like scrolling back through 7 pages to find what you said : P

Oh, I thought it was weird how you were so quick to accuse Araris, and how it was seeming like you were trying to cover that up. It's far from proof, but it's more evidence than we have against anyone else.

[Mat he/him]

13 minutes ago, Dannex said:

Speaking of the scribe action, what are those anonymous messages even good for

I don't really see a good use for them other than maybe sharing scan results

They're just fun  Like the Tineye in LG74.

[Azmine_king]

7 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

No :P. How could there be?

Well exactly, I think it's so odd to do an inactivity lynch D1. There is an inactivity filter and we have backups so what's the point, we get so little info comparatively because we cant analyze their actions during the day.

[Mat he/him]

1 minute ago, Azmine_king said:

Well exactly, I think it's so odd to do an inactivity lynch D1. There is an inactivity filter and we have backups so what's the point, we get so little info comparatively because we cant analyze their actions during the day.

And I don't disagree- I just also don't like any of the other options. That's why I'm not voting right now.

[Archer he/him]

Village points to Azmine for being suspicious of this CW, but as Dannex can tell you, well-intentioned villagers can genuinely do stuff like this near the end of the Day if they don’t like their options. For me, it comes down to do I follow my best lead, or do I go for a 1 in 4 chance that an inactive is evil?

Illwei’s defence to my accusation was the argument suspicious doesn’t necessarily mean evil. That’s a flawed rebuttal which I reserve the right to circle back to next cycle. But I voted them off D1 of the last LG, and I’d feel bad doing it again. 

I’m happy with where the thread is at; almost everyone has voted, which is amazing. Even if it disadvantages us later on, I want to reward that by casting what amounts to a ‘no vote’. Purely to spite Gears I’ll be voting for Flyingbooks today. Randby’s recent game record LG75: Replaced after N3 ; MR49 Exed after C7 ; QF52 Did not play gave them slightly less playtime than Flyingbooks’ last three games LG75: Exed after D8 ; MR49 NKed after C6 ; QF52: Replaced after C1. If we’re exing people for not showing up, Flyingbooks is the ‘fairer’ target. I’m okay with this strategy because if we let everyone active survive C1, in C2 we can be bloodthirsty without feeling much guilt, and hopefully get more bang for our buck.

If you're a scribe with nothing to put in your write-up, I have a magazine column I can let you post... but you're probably better served doing other stuff.

[dannnex male]

1 hour ago, Matrim's Dice said:

They're just fun  Like the Tineye in LG74.

But they cost an action to use

so wouldn’t it just be better to just use something else

I just don’t get this mechanic

[Illwei]

5 hours ago, Matrim's Dice said:

And I don't disagree- I just also don't like any of the other options. That's why I'm not voting right now

Bad matrim

Not a fan of this

4 hours ago, Archer said:

Illwei’s defence to my accusation was the argument suspicious doesn’t necessarily mean evil. That’s a flawed rebuttal which I reserve the right to circle back to next cycle

Sure, we can argue about that at night :P. 

And why is Books fairer? I also thought they said that they werent going to be around but maybe im forgetting things. Are they fairer because they played the last game and then replaced out, as opposed to Randby's not playing at all?

5 hours ago, Szeth_Pancakes said:

Yeah, but Dannex isn't suspicious.

Thats definitely arguable.

Edit:

Ahem...double post...

Ill fix it when i get to computer

Edited April 29, 2021 by Illwei

[Mat he/him]

36 minutes ago, Illwei said:

Bad matrim

Not a fan of this

Then tell me what to do because I see no good options 

[Azmine_king]

50 minutes ago, Illwei said:

Bad matrim

Not a fan of this

Why not

[Jondesu he/him]

Quinn, I actually agree with that reasoning, though I still think it would have been wise not to announce your plans in thread.

Randby is a decent choice, I like an occasional Contribution Crusade, and while that reasoning could have killed me last game, it's better than nothing.

[Archer he/him]

2 hours ago, Illwei said:

And why is Books fairer? I also thought they said that they werent going to be around but maybe im forgetting things. Are they fairer because they played the last game and then replaced out, as opposed to Randby's not playing at all?

Flyingbooks said "This ruleset sounds interesting, so I'll play, though I might have to quit if I get too busy when finals start." I'm assuming IRL stuff is the reason for their absence, but the same assumption can be made for Randby. We don't have an ETA for either of them. Flyingbooks has played more rounds than Randby recently, so picking them over Randby evens things up. That's why I see it as fairer, but I'm fine killing either option. 

Unsolicited Vote Count:
Randby (5): Ash, Illwei, Araris, Quinn, Jondesu
Flyingbooks (2): Gears*, Archer
Quinn (1): Szeth
Illwei (1): Archer
Szeth (1): Vonne

Edit: Hit CTRL+ENTER instead of SHIFT+ENTER and posted early, sorry. It's good now

Edited April 29, 2021 by Archer

[Elandera she/her]

Three hours! Get your votes and actions in!

[Ashbringer he/him]

Hmm. It's a fair point that letting the pinch hitters maybe take their spots (if RandBy or Books... did Books post yet? I don't remember) could be better than just exing an inactive D1, but what would we do if they do come back? Like if they post N1, but are either mostly or entirely inactive D2.

I don't really like taking off poke votes / activity-please votes when the target... doesn't post anything. It takes the teeth off a bit, and I don't want non-activity to be a way for an Elim to get out of an early exe without the other Elims interfering. So I'm fine sticking where I am, but if anyone has a good idea for a counter, I'll listen.

[Mat he/him]

I have Track until about ten minutes before rollover (could be earlier/later), so... don't expect me to catch up if you guys write two more pages before rollover :P. I'd probably just stick with a no-vote anyway but you never know with EoD.

[Illwei]

12 minutes ago, Ashbringer said:

Hmm. It's a fair point that letting the pinch hitters maybe take their spots (if RandBy or Books... did Books post yet? I don't remember) could be better than just exing an inactive D1, but what would we do if they do come back? Like if they post N1, but are either mostly or entirely inactive D2.

I don't really like taking off poke votes / activity-please votes when the target... doesn't post anything. It takes the teeth off a bit, and I don't want non-activity to be a way for an Elim to get out of an early exe without the other Elims interfering. So I'm fine sticking where I am, but if anyone has a good idea for a counter, I'll listen.

My problem is inactives tend to dodge the filter enough to stay in the game, but still not post anything. 

I got back on my computer to read up and think and then got distracted with watching opera videos on youtube for a good like hour. so uh. :P. 

[Ashbringer he/him]

That's what I mean, because that's what seems to be happening... I just don't know what's weirder, voting out someone now for being inactive, or waiting to vote them out D2 if they dodge the filter but are inactive. Normal D1 exes usually don't go off of much more than that...

[Szeth Pancakes he/they]

@Random Bystander

@Flyingbooks

@PizzaPower55

[Illwei]

I went back through and took notes but tbh I got worried about time and rused after Page 4. nothing big, and these are COMPLETELY flimsy lmao

--Not e/e--
Azmine/Mat
Azmine/Quinn
Quinn/Araris

--potential e/e--
(order matters)
Szeth/Quinn
Randby/Archer
Randby/Azmine
Randby/Ash

other than that I got nothing really from this re-read gdi

I'm strugglingggggggggggggg

 - Ash asking about Neutrals felt off to me, as it wasn't announced in the OP. I also think though that if he was an Elim that's a question he would have asked in the doc. so Village on Ash rn. I know, easy village points, but still. 

 - Quinn hasn't actually given a solid read on anyone that I can tell, it's all "normal" or a long explaination for "mmmmm gut" basically. 

 - My inital thought with the Araris opener was "this makes sense if no one has voted yet" so I'm feeling fine, because it was basically just me who had voted before Araris came on, and one person isn't half the game. 

 - Az, Szeth, Danex all expressed support in a way of the Araris lynch, and then after I expressed concern Mat agreed. Idk what this means, just a thing. 

 - Danex's vote on me and then Retraction was strange to me. I could potentially mark Mat/Danex E/E for that

 - Vonne picking just me for his badminton team was sad :pensive:

 - I do agree with Vonne on the whole "szeth feels too chill." I can see that

 - Archer's argument for Randby v. Books was interesting to me. 

 - Did I hallucinate where I saw Quinn talking about not using PMs? because that feels off, even with the spying, based on Quinn's attitude towards PMs in the QF. 

Randby

[Quintessential she/her]

10 minutes ago, Illwei said:

 - Quinn hasn't actually given a solid read on anyone that I can tell, it's all "normal" or a long explaination for "mmmmm gut" basically. 

>> what do you call my read/vote on Araris? But other than that, it's not like much has happened this cycle that's really AI. And it's not like I normally give super solid reads D1 anyway well except when I thunderdome you but y'know I'm trying to avoid that : P

10 minutes ago, Illwei said:

 - Az, Szeth, Danex all expressed support in a way of the Araris lynch, and then after I expressed concern Mat agreed. Idk what this means, just a thing. 

Illwei-Mat mindmeld strikes again?  

10 minutes ago, Illwei said:

 - Danex's vote on me and then Retraction was strange to me. I could potentially mark Mat/Danex E/E for that

*blink* wait why Mat? Wasn't Mat the first one to call Dannex out for that?

10 minutes ago, Illwei said:

 - I do agree with Vonne on the whole "szeth feels too chill." I can see that

Probably a bit late to mention this but yeah, so do I : P I didn't/don't want to vote them 'cause they're new and benefit-of-the-doubt-about-meta-and-stuff and all that, but there was some specific post they made that felt weird to me. though it may have been the one where they were sus of me... I might be somewhat biased in that case oof

10 minutes ago, Illwei said:

 - Archer's argument for Randby v. Books was interesting to me. 

*rubs eyes* I didn't read that argument what was it again? (sorry, I'm kinda distracted by reviewing for tests and binge-watching three different Netflix shows so this is not my most involved game :P)

10 minutes ago, Illwei said:

 - Did I hallucinate where I saw Quinn talking about not using PMs? because that feels off, even with the spying, based on Quinn's attitude towards PMs in the QF. 

What are you thinking my attitude about PMs was in the QF? I recall it being "PMs are the most useful to us with regards to knowing who has them with whom, because we can find not e/e pairs that way". I barely used the PMs for anything; neither of the ones I had made it past page 2. 

Edited April 29, 2021 by Quintessential

[Elandera she/her]

40 minutes!

Also, please don't PM during rollover. Once the new turn is posted, please start the first PM of the next turn with N1 (continuing on each turn). Thanks!

EDIT:

Also, current VC

Randby (4) - Quinn, Jondesu, Ashbringer, Araris
Quinn (1) - Szeth
Flyingbooks (1) - Archer
Szeth (1) - vonnegut

Edited April 29, 2021 by Elandera

[Flyingbooks]

Sorry that I haven't been on, I'll read through the thread tomorrow & be more active tonight & next cycle. I don't think I can finish reading the thread in the time that I have left, so can somebody post a quick recap?

I know this isn't that good of an argument for not exeing me from your perspective, but in the only LG that I've been a villager, I was exed D1, and I'd like to have a chance to actually play an LG as a villager for once.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

Hmm, there's honestly not a whole to to recap. Quinn and I went at each other a bit (this happened pretty early on, if you want to read it), which among other things contributed to a spread of votes on a bunch of people. Then Illwei and I independently decided to go after Randby, and most everyone seems fine(ish) with that.

[Illwei]

I feel like Randby is going to Flip Vil. And no info. I- 

Honestly right now I want to go after Quinn