Long Game 74: You Want It Darker

[STINK he/him]

56 minutes ago, Illwei said:

;).

since you're actualy seemingly getting involved in the conversation, do you have any elim reads or trusts?

I just don't like seeing weird analysis which I don't immediately understand really but sure

Like Stick and Elan shout outs for the good PMs with good vibes. Illwei and Mailliw do PMs with maybe less good vibes but it's cause its them two really innit

1 hour ago, Matrim's Dice said:

D1:

• Shard of Reading (4): Araris Valerian, Fifth Scholar, Illwei, Flyingbooks
• StrikerEZ (2): The Young Pyromancer, Matrim's Dice
• _Stick_ (1): Experience
• Illwei (1): Mailliw73
• Quintessential (1): Dannex
• Flyingbooks (9): Gears, Quintessential, Ventyl, _Stick_, StrikerEZ, Young Bard, Ashbringer, Devotary of Spontaneity, TJ Shade

What I see- dwindling amounts of people left cleared on the Books train. Heavily incriminates the four there, but I trust TJ outside of voting. Mildly interesting how many uncleared Reading voters we have but idk about that.

D2:

• StrikerEZ (9): Matrim's Dice, The Windrunner Supreme, Mailliw73, Quintessential, Fifth Scholar, Tani, Biplet, The Young Pyromancer, _Stick_
• The Young Pyromancer (5): Araris Valerian, Illwei, StrikerEZ, Devotary of Spontaneity, TJ Shade
• Ashbringer (1): Young Bard
• Mailliw73 (1): Experience
• The Unknown Order (1): Ashbringer

Again, low number of cleareds altogether. Again seems to incriminate Stick somewhat, and I'd argue Ash is NAI for this because elim!Ash could have added to either v/v train or stayed out of both knowingly and I don't know which.

D3: 

• Mailliw73 (5): Tani, The Windrunner Supreme, Matrim's Dice, Quintessential, Biplet
• Quintessential (6): Araris Valerian, Elandera, STINK, Devotary of Spontaneity, Burnt Spaghetti, Mailliw73
• Dannex (2): Illwei, Fifth Scholar
• The Windrunner Supreme (1): TJ Shade

Notice the number of villagers on Maill and the number of cleareds on Quinn.

More specifically about this VC analysis is that it's not analysis at all but just kinda reading out what's happened really as the TL;DR

Like ok 2 dead people voted on Mailliw D3 and Quinn didn't have anyone currently dead voting for them but one of those votes is self-pres so it's just biplet that you want us noting? The coinshot that killed villagers with presumably their own reasoning and just cause they're dead doesn't mean they were right with everything they said.

Like do we just kill the people that voted for Books D1 cause eventually we might hit an elim???

Idk I don't see anything here tbh soz

[Mat he/him]

1 minute ago, STINK said:

Idk I don't see anything here tbh soz

Idk either honestly. Which is why I'll be voting Maill or Araris next cycle, not Stick.

VC analysis like that is a lot more useful once an elim is dead.

[Ashbringer he/him]

Well.

That... did not... did not work.

I think a fair number of people know Maill's role by this point, but @Mailliw73 should probably publicize it.

I still don't have time...

Interesting STINK jumped out of the woodwork for this but I don't even know anymore. 

[STINK he/him]

I've literally been here the whole time 

[Stick. she/her]

1 hour ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Idk either honestly. Which is why I'll be voting Maill or Araris next cycle, not Stick.

I feel special 

32 minutes ago, Ashbringer said:

Interesting STINK jumped out of the woodwork for this but I don't even know anymore. 

 

17 minutes ago, STINK said:

I've literally been here the whole time 

I can confirm that Stink has indeed been existing this entire time

[Ashbringer he/him]

... you know what I mean.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

3 hours ago, Matrim's Dice said:

When you were asleep

Annoyed the heck outta me

See guys? Straight back to suspecting Maill. This got us nowhere. Why don't the people who were all 'Gears exe gives info too' go ahead and enlighten exactly what info we got.

I mean, the fact that I haven’t been exed two days in a row means people must not suspect me as much as you do. So maybe this is a you thing not a me thing? 

Gears’ eulogy as promised:

Gears was a wordsmith, an artimantic hemalurgic construct, and a friend. Though the day ended with us on either end of the other’s blade, the journey along the way was worth it. Acupuncture and bubbles will be remembered by this cobbler forever. Roko, rest in all the peace of the dead. And bring me back some unsealed metal minds with artistic ability when you inevitable break free of death. O7

[Mat he/him]

1 minute ago, Mailliw73 said:

I mean, the fact that I haven’t been exed two days in a row means people must not suspect me as much as you do. So maybe this is a you thing not a me thing? 

This would be true if I were the only one voting on you and if it was a collective attempt to not kill you. There are at least seven unique people who have a had a final vote on you in the last two cycles that I can think of.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

1 hour ago, Matrim's Dice said:

This would be true if I were the only one voting on you and if it was a collective attempt to not kill you. There are at least seven unique people who have a had a final vote on you in the last two cycles that I can think of.

And seven unique people aside from me who have had a final vote on the other player up for the exe. So clearly it’s a collective attempt both ways. The people who decide to trust me just win out. 

[Mat he/him]

7 minutes ago, Mailliw73 said:

And seven unique people aside from me who have had a final vote on the other player up for the exe. So clearly it’s a collective attempt both ways. The people who decide to trust me just win out. 

Convenient, isn't it?  

[Ashbringer he/him]

Still, we had nine votes last round. Nine. That’s about half of us. We need to see more than that.

[Kasimir he/him]

3 hours ago, Wyrmhero said:

Are you asleep yet? 

I recognise this is terribly obnoxious given there's no rule clarification at all, but I am, unfortunately, still in the land of the awake. 

Thought you might like to know, King  

[Wyrmhero he/him]

4 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

I recognise this is terribly obnoxious given there's no rule clarification at all, but I am, unfortunately, still in the land of the awake. 

Thought you might like to know, King  

I see a rule clarification here.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

30 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Convenient, isn't it?  

Yes, because it keeps me alive. It’s a bummer your trusts always end up just one or two less than mine. I don’t know how you and I having seven people vote the way we do literally means anything. I’m with Stink on how you’ve been posting a lot of facts that don’t really mean much on their own. 

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Double post, but it's been six hours. 

--

Marll burned tin. His senses burst alive, sharpening the world around him. Everything came into sharper contrast, points and curves, darks and lights, bitter and sweet. This was what people were made to be. The God Above, whatever they were, must've made them for this kind of feeling. Marll had burned more tin recently than he had in a long time. Ever since, well that wasn't important. What was important was the feeling of life coursing through his veins. WIth maybe just a tinge of whiskey. Just a tinge though, Marll still had a rush from the gamble he'd made earlier when he and Roko had been cornered. He'd won that toss, but at what cost?

Roko had been a friend, a pal, and now he was a corpse. Oh Lord Ruler, what had this town turned to? Emotions engaged in mortal combat in Marll's heart: grief for his town, exultation at taking a risk and having it pay off. And tin. The rush of stimulus forced him to reckon with the world in its real state, not the one he tried to imagine in his stories. Tin. Tin kept him sane. There was too much loss in this world, and if Marll had to deal with it all on his own, he'd have succumbed so long ago. Tin kept him sharp and aware. He could keep going. He could. Just keep burning, keep the flame going. Tin, passion, risks. The flames that fanned his will to press on. Marll scrawled on the walls. 

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 Marll's Tineye Ad Agency is now OPEN! 

We are now renting space on the tavern walls, the price of thirty words being a measly personal message from the renter describing what they wish inscribed, with formatting already included. First three applicants receive a pint of ale at the Rusty Crow, the newest tavern in town! Send a letter quickly, deal expires in under eleven hours at the stroke of rollover! 

Yep, I'm a Tineye (again). The second one to be exact. MAW is spelled out in the capital letters of the second line of my second message if you want to verify me. Also, most everyone else here already knows so I figure the elims do too. Might as well have fun

[|TJ| he/him]

I was waiting for Maill flip because village Maill strongly indicates elim!Illwei. I was waiting till Maill flipped to show you this, but this also includes the votes placed in between color-coded, not just the final votes.

D1:

Spoiler

Illwei's row indicates all votes places on D1 except Maill's were by the village. I don't exactly remember the timing of the votes, but I think there were 3 votes on her at some point. I would find it unusual if no elims jumped on her at some point to her get ML'd if she was village. Hmm, Fifth never voted for Illwei in D1? I remember he was suspicious. Anyway, Illwei/Maill are not e/e, and if Maill is village, there's a good possibilty that Illwei is elim, and vice versa. Fifth and Illwei are not e/e.

Books' row indicates the majority of the voters were village with unknown alignments of Stick, Ashbringer and Devotary. Stick and Ash are not e/e with Stick's push on Ash in D2, and if Stick is evil, Ash is village and though there is not indication that vice versa, I think there's an elim in Stick/Ashbringer.

Also, we know Gears removed Araris' vote and Quinn voted on Books, so it's fair to assume she wouldn't have removed a vote from the same train, so the mysterious vote manipulator is the one who removed a vote from Books.

And yes Stick is in two places which I've just noticed, ignore it -.- 

D2:

Spoiler

Similar to Illwei's row, Ash's row has all village votes except Stick's, though situation is a bit different since there was a semi-solid Striker train going on, so elims would be content with that so it is possible that all votes are here, but Stick never mentions Ash after this until I mention my suspicion in D3. 

Noted that Araris and Illwei have voted together on a side-train 2 cycles in a row. 

D3:

Spoiler

TWS voted without a reason on Striker in the previous cycle, and they did again this cycle. If TWS is evil, Maill isn't, and they aren't e/e. Tani has been read as village by the majority and that leaves Matrim....*sigh* this is heading into paranoia territory.

If Maill is evil, Devotary and Burnt look bad from it. As I said in the previous cycle, Maill was 5-2 in the lead at a point, and I feel there was an effort to save Maill. 

D4:

Spoiler

Stick hasn't voted on Maill even once, and has not actually spoken about him much too? STINK is voting opposite Maill for the second time in the row. Araris has also not spoken much about Maill other than the disapproval for one main train. Ashbringer's voting here looks like there was an initial plan to bus, but then Gears train arose and so he shifted his vote.

One thing I noticed from all the 4 cycles eliminations. Not a single vote retracted from the eliminated player's train. Not even one. I don't exactly know what it means, but I think this hints towards players with static reads throughout the cycle. 

And since, a lot of my reads depend on Maill's flip, I'll make a team with Maill and without:

Team with Maill:

Not likely to have Illwei and Matrim. Strong defence by Fifth (tries to recall if Fifth defended his teammates in QF... I don't think so?) might not mean he's a part of Maill team but the recent attack on me felt very much like an elim selectively choosing things to portray me in a bad light. I'mma leave him out for now. TWS is not a part of this team, nor is Tonnie. One of Ashbringer, or Stick, Devotary a possible teammate and so is Araris. Stick ISO'd Devotary and called her a suspicious - so Ash + Devotary is more likely than Stick + Devotary. Stick could be an elim with Burnt in this case where Ash and Devotary are village. STINK is another possible teammate.

Team: Maill, Ash/Stick, Devotary/Burnt, STINK?, Reading?, ??? (Fifth/Araris if Reading isn't in the team, possibly Dael)

Team without Mail:

Likely to have Illwei, unlikely to have Reading, Fifth or Stick, likely to have Araris and TWS, might have Burnt. Devotary is ? in this case.

Team: Illwei, Araris, TWS, Ash?, Burnt?, ??? (Devotary, Dael, possibly Dannex)

That's what I have right now, it might be more concrete when I go through vote timings of D1 and D3, but don't think I have time for it before the cycle ends as I'm a bit busy work-wise.

Edited March 11, 2021 by TJ Shade

[Stick. she/her]

15 minutes ago, TJ Shade said:

And yes Stick is in two places which I've just noticed, ignore it -.- 

There's always been two of me 

16 minutes ago, TJ Shade said:

Anyway, Illwei/Maill are not e/e, and if Maill is village, there's a good possibilty that Illwei is elim, and vice versa.

I don't think village!Maill means elim!illwei I think village!illwei is more likely in this case

17 minutes ago, TJ Shade said:

Stick never mentions Ash after this until I mention my suspicion in D3.

I did kinda forget about them ngl but I included them in all my potential elim team lists so there's that

18 minutes ago, TJ Shade said:

Stick hasn't voted on Maill even once, and has not actually spoken about him much too?

Have I not spoken about Maill enough?  Well actually maybe not so much in-thread as in PMs...but basically my stance on Maill is this: initially my paranoia was off the charts with his early role-claim to me but the creation of the PM group and the events that followed it made me lean village (his reaction to the chaos etc). The recent exe turnouts have lessened this village lean so I think it's plausible that Maill's an elim, but I'd rather go after other targets first (Devo, yourself, Burnt, etc) since going after Maill for the past two cycles has gotten kinda boring  

22 minutes ago, TJ Shade said:

STINK is another possible teammate.

stink's villager

[Ashbringer he/him]

Plink.

Plink.

Plink.

Derrick sat still, plinking-ing Roko's bead against a table. A rather charred table, in fact. The remnants of Sara's tavern had been condemned, but that didn't mean too much for Derrick. It was a place to stay, spend the night without Arenta breathing down his neck. Without anyone breathing down his neck, as a matter of fact. Without anyone breathing on any part of him.

He also found it fit the mood.

Plink.

Roko had said not to apologize. Derrick wasn't sure if he wanted to. Or, rather, he did want to. And didn't want to. Blast, this was confusing. What was wrong with him?

"I am not meant to be broken," he said. He wasn't sure who to. Mostly Derrick. Perhaps he could go on a monologue for Philico's benefit... no, Philico wouldn't like what he'd done. Not at all. Explain? He could hardly explain, either... it had been an impulse. A sudden piecing together of things: the tin dust on Marll's coat, the fact that the suspicion appeared unfounded, Roko's confusing actions with brass... Derrick had thought it all fell together. Instead it had all fallen apart. Like this house and Sara's plans had. Like everything did in this rusting village.

Like he was.

Plink.

"Roko... what is this thing. A bead of metal... not-metal... hmm." He couldn't feel anything from it, but that wasn't unusual. He didn't exactly have any detective abilities. Investigative? Seeking? Not yet, anyway. He knew where to find something to help with that... but that was a fairly bad idea. "Perhaps..."

Derrick reached into the power. The Two Power. The wild Progression that lived in him. He wasn't entirely sure how it worked, as it barely seemed to need power... but nothing happened to the metal orb. Well, that was to be expected.

The next was trickier. There was still no evidence of there being a good-intentioned Seeker... but if they were wandering around with their bronze on and heard a weird thrum from an empty burned out building, there would be more awkward questions come the morning.

He sighed.

Derrick burned nicrosil.

Something happened. A shudder, something. He couldn't say what. Perhaps a fabrication. But it was the best lead he had. Best one he'd had since coming to this Preservation-Forsaken place. Roko had a mechanism here. But how to...

Ah. How else.

Derrick squeezed a finger. A single drop of blood gathered on the tip, from capillaries suddenly exposed to air. He plinked the bead once more, then rubbed the bead of blood on the metal.

It opened. And Derrick let out a scream.

Something was gripping his mind. The inside of the bead swirled with symbols. He couldn't move. No sound came from his throat, either. Had that scream been his? Or had his ears shut down?

This thing... Roko was an enigma, but he was also an amalgam. It was trying to... ASSIMILATE...

"Oh, I don't think so."

Derrick grabbed the Lifeline. It was supposed to be used until his overseer worked out the... glitches in what could bring him back from the brink. Yank hard enough, Spiritually speaking, and his jointed spirit would flee and be reborn. Or something like that. He could never quite... remember... but that wasn't important now. Escaping - no, solving - Roko's last question. But he had an idea for that. Just had to make sure...

He held the Lifeline and burned nicrosil. Boosting the thing tethering his very soul. Feeling it wrap around Derrick, and Derrick, and... Derrick?... and hold them all tight. Feeling the force meant to preserve bend to... progress. 

Derrick felt something be born, then fall away almost at the same time. He collapsed on top of the table, watching the swirling symbols... Aions... slowly come to a stop. They had what they wanted. They had wanted Derrick. He could sense his voice within the thing... others as well. A voice of Aions - no, Derrick, Aons - almost coming together to replicate his personality?

Derrick was still Derrick, that was for sure. Both halves. Over would be quite disappointed if that were not the case... but he could correct it. Meanwhile, Roko would not be coming to gather his item for some time now...

Time to do some experimenting of his own.

 

"Has anyone noticed that Derrick's only around at Night? Like, Night Night? Sleep Tight? No? Just Derrick? Well... Derrick has noticed. Isn't the most happy about it either. Well, Derrick sleeps now. Will be back, maybe."

[Kasimir he/him]

Timecheck: You have slightly over an hour and a half. Get those orders and votes in. 

[Mat he/him]

Philico waited all night, hordelings poised for a grand show.

Peter never came.

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Kind of concerned I'll die- if so, PLEASE get Maill's flip this time- if you still don't want to do that for some reason, Araris is also a good alternative for mechanic reasons- if there is an elim!Smoker there is a pretty good chance Araris is evil.

Edited March 11, 2021 by Matrim's Dice

[Stick. she/her]

6 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Philico waited all night, hordelings poised for a grand show.

Peter never came.

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Kind of concerned I'll die- if so, PLEASE get Maill's flip this time- if you still don't want to do that for some reason, Araris is also a good alternative for mechanic reasons- if there is an elim!Smoker there is a pretty good chance Araris is evil.

Well now you see - if Maill is evil it’s better for the elims to keep you alive so that this theory is disproven but if Maill isn’t evil it’s better for them to kill you now so that we go after Maill next cycle  kind of a nasty IKYK, so just thought I’d say it now 

[Mat he/him]

7 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

Well now you see - if Maill is evil it’s better for the elims to keep you alive so that this theory is disproven but if Maill isn’t evil it’s better for them to kill you now so that we go after Maill next cycle  kind of a nasty IKYK, so just thought I’d say it now 

Well, yeah. They also just might kill me because I'm pushing Maill, but we should exe Maill tomorrow regardless of whether I die or not. Or Araris, as I said.

Edited March 11, 2021 by Matrim's Dice

[|TJ| he/him]

@Matrim's Dice What's your argument for Araris?

Edit: Read your post again. Like, what's the reasoning behind this?

22 hours ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Nearly positive one of Araris or Illwei is an elim. Araris is like 100x more likely in that group so unless something stupid happened Araris is evil.

Edited March 11, 2021 by TJ Shade

[Kasimir he/him]

So, anyone down to hammer Wyrm with me before the Turn ends 

Just askin'.

[Kasimir he/him]

Well, I guess no takers. Stick has my favour though, at any rate. And any of y'all who put in kill orders on me at Wyrm's request are definitely on my naughty list, and I'm Satan >>

Turn's over, no more falling over yourselves to post. Who lives and who dies in this latest episode of CSI: Fallion's Tears?

Stay tuned, and find out after the commercial break!

Edit: You know, I actually meant Santa... Santa Kas .___.

Edited March 11, 2021 by Kasimir