Quick Fix 50: Return to Tar Valon

[danex]

Just now, Orlok Tsubodai said:

As an aside, all, I am desperately trying to catch up on the past cycles - does anyone have a vote count for this cycle, so that I don't have to jump way ahead in my read through?

I believe it’s just like 8 votes on lotus and nothing else.

[|TJ|]

1 minute ago, Orlok Tsubodai said:

As an aside, all, I am desperately trying to catch up on the past cycles - does anyone have a vote count for this cycle, so that I don't have to jump way ahead in my read through?

Lotus (9): Matrim's Dice, Gears, Breaker, The Unknown Order, James Brafin, Illwei, Dannex, Flyingbooks42, Devotary of Spontaneity
Gears (1): Lotus

Ask and you shall receive.

[Orlok Tsubodai]

1 minute ago, Dannex said:

I believe it’s just like 8 votes on lotus and nothing else.

 

Just now, TJ Shade said:

Lotus (9): Matrim's Dice, Gears, Breaker, The Unknown Order, James Brafin, Illwei, Dannex, Flyingbooks42, Devotary of Spontaneity
Gears (1): Lotus

Ask and you shall receive.

Thanks both. Good to know there isn't that much time pressure then to catch up before a contended lynch...

[Mat]

13 minutes ago, Gears said:

Matrim [who seems to be following Illwei, may be hiding]

I’m not following, just agreeing. Most of the time. Like, I’m the only one considering a WGG anymore  And I think voting Quinn was controversial when I first suggested it.

[+Lotus]

Ilyanna stood outside the hall's tent, waiting for her Aes Sedai. There was quite a crowd of warders out here, all standing silently. 

A few of the warders knew that she was female, but they kept it quiet. It would be no use to loose a god warder just because they were a women. They were good people, the other warders.

The Aes Sedai began to emerge from the hall and Ilyanna found Burnt in the crowd, coming to her side. "Anything interesting?" she asked quietly as the two of them began to move through the night towards their tent.

"Not particularly." Burnt said, although Ilyanna could sense she was hiding something through her warder bond.

It was probably just some Aes Sedai nonsense.

When she had been younger she had dreamed of being a Aes Sedai, but she didn't have the gift to channel. Burnt had found her though and made her a warder. She appreciated that greatly.

[Mat]

4 minutes ago, Lotus said:

Ilyanna stood outside the hall's tent, waiting for her Aes Sedai. There was quite a crowd of warders out here, all standing silently. 

A few of the warders knew that she was female, but they kept it quiet. It would be no use to loose a god warder just because they were a women. They were good people, the other warders.

The Aes Sedai began to emerge from the hall and Ilyanna found Burnt in the crowd, coming to her side. "Anything interesting?" she asked quietly as the two of them began to move through the night towards their tent.

"Not particularly." Burnt said, although Ilyanna could sense she was hiding something through her warder bond.

It was probably just some Aes Sedai nonsense.

When she had been younger she had dreamed of being a Aes Sedai, but she didn't have the gift to channel. Burnt had found her though and made her a warder. She appreciated that greatly.

Can we get some reads?  

Good RP though :thumbs-up:

[Condensation]

Yikes. I don't know how I'm supposed to keep up with this...

Can I have a summary?

[+Lotus]

Village-y

Illwei-Has been extremely helpful, active and very village-y

Burnt Spaghetti-How can I not put my Aes Sedai in here

James Brafin-Seems to be very involved and is a newer player, so also giving benefit of the doubt

Null

The unknown order-hasn't been posting a whole lot

Breaker-I haven't played with them before, seems to be following whatever gears does

Books-? null

Devotary-hasn't been super active but thats normal for them

Orlock-new to the round, (hey Orlock!)

Elim-y

Gears-tunneling on Dannex

Condensation-just not getting good vibes,

Dannex-Two vote manias in a row just don't look good

 

 

 

[Orlok Tsubodai]

Ok, so I clearly haven't been able to catch up yet, but am getting there. With the GM's blessing to post my analysis in notes form, I give you the first four pages of D1:

Posts by game	Cycle	Posts by turn	Player	Key content	Thoughts on content	Alignment Indicative	Vote	Retractions
1	C1	1	TJ Shade	Writeup
2	C1	2	Matrim's Dice	Asks if thoughts on distribution	Doesn't give own opinions. Fairly safe conversation starter.	Very mild evil
3	C1	3	Archer	Respinds to Matrim. Poke vote on Striker (known elim). Sensible but NAI game analysis.	Safe distancing? Unlikely - moderate likelihood village.	Moderate village	StrikerEZ
4	C1	4	Shard of Reading	Known villager. Sensible NAI distribution analysis	None	Known villager
5	C1	5	Liranil	Known villager. NAI	NAI	NAI
6	C1	6	Quinn0928	Known elim. Suggests potential elim warder for Green Ajah. Suggests 5 elims as Green Ajah.	Plausible distribution. Strong chance of IKYK.	Known elim
7	C1	7	James Brafin	Suggests four eliminators. Misinterprets first writeup	Confusion re first writeup feels very genuine - hard clear village for me.	Village
8	C1	8	Quinn0928	Clears up James' misconception	NAI	NAI
9	C1	9	James Brafin	Acknowledges misconception	NAI	NAI
10	C1	10	The Unknown Order	Also clears up James' misconception	NAI	NAI
11	C1	11	Quinn0928	Asks James if first game	Kindness feels genuine. Unlikely same team.	Known elim
12	C1	12	James Brafin	First game on this site	Remember James has offsite experience	NAI
13	C1	13	Lotus	NAI	NAI	NAI
14	C1	14	Matrim's Dice	Agrees publicly with Quinn re village vig. Assumes five eliminators.	Unsure. Number of elims not a valuable day one discussion topic.	Unsure
15	C1	15	Illwei	Votes Condensation. Jokes about being an eliminator. Goes through roles. Expects three kills a cycle. Points out that overestimating elims a way to seem more village. Joke votes on Quinn (eliminator). Returns vote to Condensation.	OOG reason for vote on Condensation? Very strong familiarity with Quinn. Sensible inclusion of warders in distro analysis. Agree with their point re overestimation for town read purposes.	Mild village	Condensation
16	C1	16	Dannex	Wants Green Ajah to claim. Wants them mechanically confirmed, with yellow ajah protection. Doesn't want the green ajah to use their kill frequently. Suggests one black ajah vote manip.	Do not like suggestion of green ajah claiming. Suspect evil, with black ajah having a yellow ajah member likely.	Moderate evil
17	C1	17	Shard of Reading	Points out no PMs except between Aes Sedai and their warders	Thanks Shard! Perhaps revise Dannex assessment.	Known villager
18	C1	18	Illwei	Suggests vig kill be trigger happy. Jokes about conferrign with elim team.	Mild village from encouragement of vig.	Mild village
19	C1	19	Quinn0928	Asks Illwei to spell name correctly.	Distancing? Unlikely, I think.	Known elim
20	C1	20	Condensation	Complains about speed of the game. Gut reads Illwei as trustworthy. Votes on Burnt.	Tell me about it... Why village read from post? More likely that elims make faster gut reads in my experience.	Unsure	Burnt Spaghetti
21	C1	21	Matrim's Dice	Revises assessment of elim numbers given warder. "Hopes" green ajah "good". Suggests unlikely vig kills accurate	Good unhelpful word in context. Assume it means accurate. Discourages vig killing. Mild evil as such.	Mild evil
22	C1	22	Quinn0928	Suggests Matrim pocketing Condensation	Probably player familiarity	Known elim
23	C1	23	Illwei	Votes on Quinn as joke in response to name post. Further familiarity.	Likely NAI - possibly mild village as slightly less likely on same team	Mild village	Quinn
24	C1	24	Quinn0928	Says busy so only making short posts	NAI	NAI
25	C1	25	Matrim's Dice	Complains re ever changing votes.	NAI	NAI
26	C1	26	Quinn0928	Says they're procrastinating.	NAI	NAI
27	C1	27	Illwei	Jokes about Green claiming. Says no notes in QF - just point and shoot.	I should probably listen to this advice...	NAI
28	C1	28	TJ Shade	Clarifies absolutely no non-Warder/Aes Sedai PMs.	GM	Reeks of evil.
29	C1	29	Ashbringer	Suggets players claim to their warders and communicate with them.	Communicating always sensible, practicing PM safety.	Known villager
30	C1	30	Quinn0928	Jokes about Illwei being Green Ajah.	Distancing?	Known elim
31	C1	31	Devotary of Spontaneity	States white ajah useful to the elims. Says lots of protection likely - so possibly larger than standard team. Doubts two village yellow ajah so continuous protection can't be arranged.	Makes sensible points. Possible village lean due to warning re yellow ajah	Mild village
32	C1	32	Quinn0928	Clarifies that warders know their Aes Sedai's Ajah.	NAI	Known elim
33	C1	33	Ashbringer	Notes no roleblocks in game.	NAI	Known villager
34	C1	34	Matrim's Dice	Suggests not everyone may have a role	NAI	NAI
35	C1	35	Quinn0928	Suggests red ajah may not have warders for thematic reasons	Possible?	Known elim
36	C1	36	Illwei	Alignment reads based on jokes? Difficult to know what is meant and what isn't. Reiterates their vote on Quinn as a joke.	Largely unhelpful. Unsure if playstyle or obfuscating	Very mild evil
37	C1	37	Quinn0928	Clear familiarity with Illwei	Unsure	Known elim
38	C1	38	Condensation	Says already far behind on the game. Feels like immediate voting not necessarily the norm.	You think *you* are behind?	NAI
39	C1	39	Dannex	Wants vanilla roles to claim. Says they're expendable because vanilla.	Disagree vehemently. Most important role in the game is your mind and analysis. Not to mention vanilla claims narrow down elim targets.	Moderate evil.
40	C1	40	Matrim's Dice	Points out vanilla claims narrow field for elims.	Agree. Basic but sensible point.	Mild village.
41	C1	41	Dannex	Says one vanilla claiming worth it for village	What possible advantage does it convey to the village?	Mild evil
42	C1	42	Quinn0928	Says it should be up to discretion of vanillas to reveal themselves.	Promoting poor advice	Known evil
43	C1	43	Illwei	Points out uselessness of knowing whether we have vanilla roles. Says Dannex always has controversial opinions.	Useful to know re Dannex.	Mild village
44	C1	44	Lotus	Says QFs move fast	This one faster than most.	NAI
45	C1	45	Dannex	Jokes	NAI	NAI
46	C1	46	Quinn0928	Suggests elims may want to kill vanillas as definitely not protected	Fair point.	Known elim
47	C1	47	Dannex	Votes Illwei. Suggests lynching a vanilla best possible mislynch.	Still a mislynch (and misses that he could be lying but not elim). Still doesn't explain advantage of knowing whether they're in the game.	Moderate evil	Illwei
48	C1	48	TJ Shade	GMs as a rule are evil.	As before.	Confirmed Shai'tan
49	C1	49	Illwei	Says they wouldn't kill a vanilla if evil. Suggests claimed vanilla likely a warder.	Has (joke)claimed vanilla. Warder?	Mild village
50	C1	50	Quinn0928	Says Illwei could be troll villager. Suggests vanilla less likely to be protected or watched.	Conversation on hypothetical vanillas is completely useless to the village.	Known elim
51	C1	51	Gears	Ability analysis. Says not to trust bonded. RP.	NAI	NAI
52	C1	52	Illwei	Calls out Dannex's logic. Says they recall Dannex being against D1 lynches.	Doesn't vote on Dannex - why not?	Mild evil
53	C1	53	Quinn0928	Says that value in game has much more to do with thread than roles.	Agree.	Known elim
54	C1	54	Matrim's Dice	Says Dannex's plan a bad idea and that we should vote on suspicion. Votes on Dannex.	Agree with this wholeheartedly.	Moderate village	Dannex
55	C1	55	Dannex	Still treats knowing of vanillas as useful info - doesn't justify why.	Feels like they are missing a major step in their logic.	Mild evil
56	C1	56	Illwei	Jokes about trolling	NAI	NAI
57	C1	57	Dannex	Says trolling not a factor in whether they vote on someone or not.	Trolling can completely change meaning of what is written	Mild evil
58	C1	58	Shard of Reading	Against killing Illwei. Gut read and vote on Dannex. Says only an hour into C1, Dannex pushing hard for kill on minimal info.	Oh good lord. Is it really only an hour into C1... Agree with gut read on Dannex.	Known villager
59	C1	59	Lotus	Doesn't like Dannex being aggressive	Could be a playstyle thing	NAI
60	C1	60	Dannex	Says they aren't pushing hard for a kill	Reads to me like they are.	NAI
61	C1	61	Matrim's Dice	Clarifies that lynching for suspicions better than for role info	Obvious point	NAI
62	C1	62	Quinn0928	D1 votes always low reasoning. Illwei often a good early lynch for elim team.	Defence of Dannex with some distancing	Known evil
63	C1	63	Condensation	Votes on Dannex, retracts on Burnt	Fair vote, revisit dependant on Dannex alignment.	Mild village	Dannex	Burnt Spaghetti
64	C1	64	Dannex	Says difficult to have suspicions on D1. Says push on them suspicious, as they just poke voted Illwei.	Real attempt to backtrack - their vote is anything but a pokevote.	Moderate evil.
65	C1	65	Shard of Reading	Says that their interpretation of Dannex's actions are a push to kill Illwei.	Valid interpretation - I agree.	Known villager
66	C1	66	Dannex	Confrontational response.	Defensive - feels unnatural response	Mild evil
67	C1	67	Matrim's Dice	Asks that we avoid D1 lynch discussion again. Doesn't like people following their votes.	Tryign to stall Dannex train? DOesn't feel too much like it.	Unsure
68	C1	68	Illwei	Now claims Warden. Doesn't think behaviour is elim nature for him. Doesn't see Dannex being pushy either. Suspicious of Shard of Reading for voting for Dannex. Also suspicious of Condensation.	Disagree with suspicion of those suspicious of Dannex.	Mild evil
69	C1	69	Matrim's Dice	Retracts Dannex, votes Condensation	Why?	Mild evil	Condensation	Dannex
70	C1	70	Dannex	Suggests Condensation and Reading top elim reads. Will vote on them if Illwei retracts vanilla claim.	Why *still* insistent on this vanilla claim? Reading now confirmed villager. Condensation voting on them. Feels very reactionary.	Moderate evil.
71	C1	71	Condensation	Says Dannex vote still makes sense to them.	Isn't pressured off Dannex.	Moderate village
72	C1	72	Shard of Reading	Clarifies feelings re Dannex	Fair enough	Known villager
73	C1	73	Illwei	Questions apparent change in Condensation opinions on D1 voting	If they've been called out for it each time previously, surely changing their mind is likely or nautral?	NAI
74	C1	74	Quinn0928	Doesn't fault Condensation for changing playstyle.	Agree	NAI
75	C1	75	Matrim's Dice	Doesn't want D1 lynch discussion. Is voting Condensation for where the vote landed, not the vote.	Disagree that vote target poor _ had I been playing I'd likely have joined vote on Dannex.	Mild evil
76	C1	76	Condensation	Says they are doing an introspection class - reason for change in playstyle.	Plausible. If so good for them.	NAI
77	C1	77	Ashbringer	Jokes? about their own D1 voting history and being killed	Don't know context, probably joke	NAI
78	C1	78	Shard of Reading	Says they are talking of Dannex's surety as why they are voting for them, not the fact it is a D1 vote.	Very sensible	Mild village
79	C1	79	Quinn0928	Promises not to kill Ashbringer this game	Joke	NAI
80	C1	80	Illwei	Gives good explanation of Reading's point of view	Agree	Mild village
81	C1	81	Condensation	Says they historically had a hard time with decisiveness	NAI	NAI
82	C1	82	Matrim's Dice	Had misread Reading's intentions	Fair	NAI
83	C1	83	Illwei	Complains about speed of game.	I have more than 1100 posts still to catch up on. You have it easy.	NAI
84	C1	84	TJ Shade	Vote Count.	Dripping with the True Power.	Hail Shai'Tan
85	C1	85	Quinn0928	Queries Illwei still voting on them	Feels like oog friendship	NAI
86	C1	86	Illwei	Retracts Quinn. Claims two warders. Claims Dannex and SoR as village reads.	Retraction (and pokevote) seem driven by prior relationship	NAI		Quinn
87	C1	87	Quinn0928	Asks to be added to Illwei village reads	Joke	NAI
88	C1	88	Dannex	Asks Illwei to respond to whether they are retracting vanilla claim	Still cannot figure out Dannex's obsession with this vanilla claim	Unsure
89	C1	89	Shard of Reading	Notes he finds the village reading of themselves and Dannex entertaining	NAI	NAI
90	C1	90	Breaker	Not quite sure what they're saying here	Unsure	Unsure
91	C1	91	Illwei	Says they never actually claimed vanilla. Explains to Breaker that they were recapping thread thus far.	Sensible enough	NAI
92	C1	92	Quinn0928	Explains the discussion re vanillas to Breaker	NAI	NAI
93	C1	93	Breaker	Says they misquoted and were thrown off.	NAI	NAI
94	C1	94	Shard of Reading	Says pages 1 and 2 rules discussion	NAI	Confirmed villager
95	C1	95	Illwei	Smiles	NAI	NAI
96	C1	96	Dannex	Retracts Illwei. Most suspicious of Reading and Condensation.	Consistent with prior stated posts.	Unsure
97	C1	97	Quinn0928	Says only Illwei can explain their trolling re claiming GM and IM as warders	Or anyone else could...	NAI
98	C1	98	Breaker	Screams	NAI	NAI
99	C1	99	Quinn0928	Says they will be active this game	It certainly seems so	NAI
100	C1	100	Matrim's Dice	Explains but misunderstands Illwei's joke	NAI	NAI
101	C1	101	Quinn0928	@s Illwei re Matrim saying we should ignore them	Friendly jibing	NAI

From what I have read so far, and acknowledging there is much I haven't read, I am so far most suspicious of Dannex. I can't work out their apparent fixation with vanilla roles, and find it particularly odd that they want vanillas to claim. I also dislike their request in their first post for the Green Ajah to claim in PMs (although clearly impossible). I further note their request that the village vig kill doesn't use their ability frequently, which I see as elim-helpful. 

Beyond this, and again acknowledging that there are still 17 pages left in D1 for me to read, I note that one of the players suspicious of Dannex was killed D1.

My analysis is clearly still in an embryonic state, but I need to take a brief break from going through the thread, and think breaking my notes up may help others trying to read them.

[Guest Breaker]

My most significant contributions are misquoting and screaming? Never have I been a prouder boy. 

[Mat]

4 minutes ago, Lotus said:

Gears-tunneling on Dannex

Condensation-just not getting good vibes,

Dannex-Two vote manias in a row just don't look good

...You put Gears as elim for tunneling on another elim?  

[Guest Breaker]

2 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

...You put Gears as elim for tunneling on another elim?  

I AM VERY CONFUSED

[---]

12 minutes ago, Orlok Tsubodai said:

GM Reeks of evil

Finally! someone agrees! :P.

12 minutes ago, Orlok Tsubodai said:

I have more than 1100 posts still to catch up on. You have it easy.

;-;

6 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

...You put Gears as elim for tunneling on another elim?  

Hm. I mean, that's something that I did in my last Elim game? :P. I felt much safer tunneling on an Elim because I knew they would...well...flip Elim :P.

Edited January 18, 2021 by Illwei

[Condensation]

9 minutes ago, Orlok Tsubodai said:

You think *you* are behind?

Yeah, I feel bad for you. This has got to be the most active QF there's ever been. Didn't someone say that? Like, 30 pages or something?

[Guest Breaker]

OK, so, I like gambits, and I've got a weird idea. Not necessarily a suggestion; don't shrek me for theory. 

What if we have Burnt and Dannex refuse to report anything for this round's scans and the next one's? 

After that, nobody knows who was scanned and who wasn't. They can demand anyone reveal their role, and nobody can risk lying. That way, we can maybe know every person's role. Then we can make some guesses about distribution, we can let every scan be revealed every day. We can play with perfect information. If there's a vote manip we dislike, we'll know who both Greys are, which means it's too risky for an elim Grey to use their power to create ties or save elim.

They're both otherwise poor NK's -- yes, Dannex is still a poor NK, until you can persuade Gears and Orlok of their Vill-ness --, and the strategy neutralizes their advantage, if they're somehow elims, anyway. But I'm 60% sure Dannex is Vil, and Burnt had better be Vil or I'll be sad. So I think we can trust them. A Brown Elim is terrifying, anyway. 

This at least lets us plan a little like in an open PM game. 

I don't know if it's wise, but it's bold, and I wanted to hear what people thought of the idea

Thoughts? (Please don't hurt me)

[|TJ|]

Alright guys, I seem to be having internet issues. If I'm unable to come on at the time of rollover, consider the cycle to be closed. Expect the new a little later. If I have no issues, then it'll be on time. 

Edited January 18, 2021 by TJ Shade

[---]

3 minutes ago, Breaker said:

I don't know if it's wise, but it's bold, and I wanted to hear what people thought of the idea

Personally I think it's a bit too late for that :P. I mean- first of all, burnt is about to lose her powers because we're killing off Lotus. So she's not exactly going to be a high-priority kill in my opinion.

I just don't- I kinda just woke up so I probably don't be making sense, but I don't think that setup spec/mass claiming or anything is going to help solve the game.

[Guest Breaker]

1 minute ago, TJ Shade said:

Alright guys, I seem to be having internet issues. If I'm unable to come on at the time of rollover, consider the cycle to be closed. Expect the new a little later. If I have no issues, then it'll be on time. 

Thanks for the heads up!

Edit: 

 

Just now, Illwei said:

Personally I think it's a bit too late for that :P. I mean- first of all, burnt is about to lose her powers because we're killing off Lotus. So she's not exactly going to be a high-priority kill in my opinion.

Ignore me; I literally forgot about this. 

Edited January 18, 2021 by Breaker

[Gears]

12 minutes ago, Breaker said:

Thoughts? (Please don't hurt me)

I vetted this in our PM, but I'll list some flaws. 1. Now the elims want to kill them, they won't have Warders, and we probably don't have another Yellow. Speaking of, we'd have to not X Lot, since Lot and Bubbles are bonded, and the only other candidate is Danex. However, if we can get it to work, go ahead. Maybe take Burnt's scan this cycle and Danex's for a while? Gears Somewhat Approved [TM]

Also, stop ninja'ing me.

Edited January 18, 2021 by Gears

[Guest Breaker]

Just now, Gears said:

I vetted this in our PM, but I'll list some flaws. 1. Now the elims want to kill them, they won't have Warders, and we probably don't have another Yellow. Speaking of, we'd have to not X Lot, since Lot and Bubbles are bonded, and the only other candidate is Danex. However, if we can get it to work, go ahead. Maybe take Burnt's scan this cycle and Danex's for a while? Gears Approved [TM]

Also, stop ninja'ing me.

:ninja:

[Orlok Tsubodai]

14 minutes ago, Breaker said:

OK, so, I like gambits, and I've got a weird idea. Not necessarily a suggestion; don't shrek me for theory. 

What if we have Burnt and Dannex refuse to report anything for this round's scans and the next one's? 

After that, nobody knows who was scanned and who wasn't. They can demand anyone reveal their role, and nobody can risk lying. That way, we can maybe know every person's role. Then we can make some guesses about distribution, we can let every scan be revealed every day. We can play with perfect information. If there's a vote manip we dislike, we'll know who both Greys are, which means it's too risky for an elim Grey to use their power to create ties or save elim.

They're both otherwise poor NK's -- yes, Dannex is still a poor NK, until you can persuade Gears and Orlok of their Vill-ness --, and the strategy neutralizes their advantage, if they're somehow elims, anyway. But I'm 60% sure Dannex is Vil, and Burnt had better be Vil or I'll be sad. So I think we can trust them. A Brown Elim is terrifying, anyway. 

This at least lets us plan a little like in an open PM game. 

I don't know if it's wise, but it's bold, and I wanted to hear what people thought of the idea

Thoughts? (Please don't hurt me)

Just as an aside, I'm against any strategy that coerces players to act in a certain way, so on principle I don't like this suggestion that we force players to give up information.

[Guest Breaker]

Just now, Orlok Tsubodai said:

Just as an aside, I'm against any strategy that coerces players to act in a certain way, so on principle I don't like this suggestion that we force players to give up information.

Noted! I kinda viewed this as tricking people into it, not forcing, but I can see how it could feel bully-ish. Sorry! Important to find those lines. I'll be careful

[Mat]

Aight, so I kinda expect to die, in all honesty. Might as well leave with something  

Keep in mind that if I'm killed, the elims targeted me consecutively. We did not see that with Connie, and if there is one (well, two, but we'll get to that soon) thing that I'd like y'all to remember is that a WGG is still possible. I don't want it to be completely discounted. If you get to the point where it's a close game, remember that.

The second thing I guess is to not exe Dannex. Like, I trust them. Orlok's vote was after reading 4 pages of D1, and at that point- yes, he looked sus. But we're over 40 pages after that. (Again, the caveat here is if it comes down to like, Illwei, Dannex, and Archer- then Dannex should go, but I honestly wouldn't do it before that point)

Trust my Aes Sedai. I kinda expect them to claim when I die. You'll see why  

Still sus of James for casually defending Lotus early this cycle. Don't automatically vil read them for earlier content, talented players are talented.

If Lotus is vil, above reads are not nearly as beneficial, of course. Not that I find vil!Lotus likely... but they haven't flipped yet. Take them how you will.

If I'm dead, farewell and good luck! If not, well, there isn't a single thing up there that I wouldn't say otherwise, except maybe the point about Connie- because if I'm not targeted consecutively, Connie not being either is a moot point. Hope to see y'all C5!

[---]

40 minutes ago, Orlok Tsubodai said:

Ability analysis. Says not to trust bonded. RP.

Also this- About gears. Imma needa go look back at that I guess. hrm

[|TJ|]

Time!