The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Frozen Mint said: Any of us might die. We don't know who the elims will choose to kill. I don't think I'm a particularly likely target but I'm still a potential target. The elims'll probably kill someone who is trusted, as killing someone suspicious makes the lynch more likely to hit an elim.
Ashbringer he/him Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Elkanah said: Ashbringer - Has only expressed suspicion of Mint and Irkedness at me. If it helps any, I don't think the game will last long enough for you to have tried illegal stuff twice . More seriously, are you still suspicious of Frozen Mint or have your suspicions evolved? To respond for this somewhat, I haven't been keeping up that much with the thread beyond skimming it. Mainly the code irked me, but seeing there's been a lack of PM shenanigans, I won't base a suspicion off of it. I'm still kinda suspicious of Mint, but that may change as I examine her posts. But I'm more suspicious of Experience from the context, and I doubt that both are Elims. Although, I'm a little curious at Matrim. Looking back, Vapor gave a... very strange response to Matrim's poke vote on her, and no one really mentioned it. I'm more inclined to trust Mat, but if Experience flips Village it could be a lead. Aaaand I'm almost out of time. May edit this.
Mat he/him Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Ashbringer said: Although, I'm a little curious at Matrim. Looking back, Vapor gave a... very strange response to Matrim's poke vote on her, and no one really mentioned it. I'm more inclined to trust Mat, but if Experience flips Village it could be a lead. Yeah, if XP flips village that'd be really unfortunate for me Edit: Ninja'd by Zillah
Zillah she/her Posted September 5, 2020 Author Posted September 5, 2020 [Writeup to come when they fix my wifi. . .] TJ Shade was killed, they were a member of the Loyal Campaign Staff. The day will end in approximately 48 hours, Monday September 7, at 0100 UTC Player List Spoiler Experience - Shard Illwei Matrims Dice - Phil Lotus - Sunwalker TJ Shade - Ylns Loyal Campaign Staff Frozen Mint Kynedath - Tktk Vapor Undercover Emmisary Lord Silberfarben Elkanah - Lknik (a possible addict) The Young Pyromancer - Mancia Young Ashbringer - Faleast Mist - Tara Night Loyal Campaign Staff Sart the Bard Elandera Loyal Campaign Staff 3
Mat he/him Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 Well, shoot. I had chosen TJ to be in my PM. I'll start us off: Experience, what do you have to say? (@Experience)
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 And this is what you expect from claiming a village scan on someone EOT on a night turn. Not terribly unexpected, but annoying. 1
Illwei Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) I again got Connection last night for anyone who wanted to know. er- I think it would be nice if people, uh, wanted to, uh, say during the day or night who they'd like to have a PM with just in case...idk...hypothetically there's someone who seems to keep getting connection and doesn't want to use it themselves? Asking for a friend... Also: Quote Vapor gave a... very strange response to Matrim's poke vote on her, and no one really mentioned it. @Ashbringer is this the post you're talking about? because....I mean, I don't see why you think it's 'very strange' ? In my attempts to look for the post though, I did see one where Vapor seems defensive after Elandera puts a vote on Mint, and that combined with Frozen Mint then voting for Mist makes me kinda suspicious, and... and I assume this is why people were a tad suspicious of Mint before. and...and I'm probably just now catching up...huh... Edited September 5, 2020 by Illwei
Experience he/him Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) Hello! It looks as if I'm going to die as it seems like the majority of people have an elim read of me for some reason. I'm just going to say that I got survival and chose pyro. At first I didn't want to use it because someone might have scanned me, but then I realized that more than half of the people want me dead, so I chose to use it. Hopefully someone scanned me so we can at least see what pyro's alignment is. One thing I see is that people are thinking that either me lotus or mint are elims, which is kinda wierd cause I am getting village vibes from both of them. I'm going to vote on pyro, for now, cause I'm not really sure who the elims are and they seem to be not talking as much. Edited September 5, 2020 by Experience
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 Ah, that makes sense. Wondering why I was RBed. Though that might have been since I was targeting TJ... Illwei, I would appreciate any PMs you can give me, especially ones with cleared/soft-cleared players.
Mat he/him Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Experience said: Hello! It looks as if I'm going to die as it seems like the majority of people have an elim read of me for some reason. I'm just going to say that I got survival and chose pyro. At first I didn't want to use it because someone might have scanned me, but then I realized that more than half of the people want me dead, so I chose to use it. Hopefully someone scanned me so we can at least see what pyro's alignment is. One thing I see is that people are thinking that either me lotus or mint are elims, which is kinda wierd cause I am getting village vibes from both of them. I'm going to vote on pyro, cause I'm not really sure who the elims are and they seem to be not talking as much. Question: If you truly are village, why in the world did you use your action? If anyone had scanned you, you would have been proved innocent- but since you used your action, there's no way for village!you to get out of a lynch. It's a convenient excuse, actually- if you used your action because you were afraid of a village kill, 1. The chance that a villager were to choose the 3rd table is pretty low, judging by the answers from C1, and 2. The chance that they got a kill and chose to target you is much smaller. Altogether, it would be much smarter to wait and hope for a scan. I think it's much more likely that you are an elim who received this action and used it to forgo getting outed by a scan. 1
Experience he/him Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 Just now, Matrim's Dice said: Question: If you truly are village, why in the world did you use your action? If anyone had scanned you, you would have been proved innocent- but since you used your action, there's no way for village!you to get out of a lynch. It's a convenient excuse, actually- if you used your action because you were afraid of a village kill, 1. The chance that a villager were to choose the 3rd table is pretty low, judging by the answers from C1, and 2. The chance that they got a kill and chose to target you is much smaller. Altogether, it would be much smarter to wait and hope for a scan. I think it's much more likely that you are an elim who received this action and used it to forgo getting outed by a scan. Ya, I can see how that might come across, but honestly I just did it cause I don't want to die. I guess in my last post I didn't address why you(everyone) shouldn't lynch me. To my understanding, people think I'm elim because I was defending vapor and then I didn't vote on them. First off, I wasn't defending vapor. In my post, I was saying that I thought there might be a better lynch target, not defending any of the lynch targets. In my next post I went through everyone and realized that they were the best choice. I don't really have a good reason for why I didn't vote for them earlier. I just didn't. Hopefully that clarifies some stuff?
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: Question: If you truly are village, why in the world did you use your action? If anyone had scanned you, you would have been proved innocent- but since you used your action, there's no way for village!you to get out of a lynch. It's a convenient excuse, actually- if you used your action because you were afraid of a village kill, 1. The chance that a villager were to choose the 3rd table is pretty low, judging by the answers from C1, and 2. The chance that they got a kill and chose to target you is much smaller. Altogether, it would be much smarter to wait and hope for a scan. I think it's much more likely that you are an elim who received this action and used it to forgo getting outed by a scan. I do think that's likely, but I could see a situation where they use it as a villager as well. The part that makes me suspicious is the fact that they claimed it was because many people wanted to kill them, which seems odd, as people seem to be saving the illegal table for later in the game, and the elims are unlikely to kill a villager under suspicion. I'll place a vote on Experience for now, but that's subject to change.
Illwei Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, The Young Pyromancer said: Though that might have been since I was targeting TJ... Targeting TJ...with...what? 15 minutes ago, The Young Pyromancer said: Illwei, I would appreciate any PMs you can give me, especially ones with cleared/soft-cleared players Me? why would you think- ohhh. I told you, I was asking for a friend. definitely not me. but also- noted. 27 minutes ago, Experience said: At first I didn't want to use it because someone might have scanned me I mean- If someone scanned you then they could have cleared you if you're vil? and as you're the top suspect it seems rn I don't exactly think the Elims would kill you... Did anyone get research *flashbacks to LG68* this turn? Also the Elims killed TJ, but not Sart? Edited September 5, 2020 by Illwei
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Illwei said: I mean- If someone scanned you then they could have cleared you if you're vil? and as you're the top suspect it seems rn I don't exactly think the Elims would kill you... Their point there was they almost didn't because of the scan, but changed their mind. 2 minutes ago, Illwei said: Targeting TJ...with...what? I'd prefer to not say, as that'd give information on which tables I'm using. Though you can probably guess that . Suffice to say it was not detrimental to TJ. Yes, I know that admitting I targeted TJ might seem like an elim trying to avoid any cases of people who my actions getting me, but how would I know my actions were tracked? I'm admitting this publicly because I want to figure out whether RBs are listed the same if the target dies and if a person is actually roleblocked, along with some other rules things I'm waiting for a response on in PM.
Experience he/him Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, The Young Pyromancer said: I do think that's likely, but I could see a situation where they use it as a villager as well. The part that makes me suspicious is the fact that they claimed it was because many people wanted to kill them, which seems odd, as people seem to be saving the illegal table for later in the game, and the elims are unlikely to kill a villager under suspicion. I'll place a vote on Experience for now, but that's subject to change. I was mostly talking about villager(s) with a kill, and I feel like they would kill me because most people thought that I was elim. 20 minutes ago, Illwei said: I mean- If someone scanned you then they could have cleared you if you're vil? and as you're the top suspect it seems rn I don't exactly think the Elims would kill you... Also the Elims killed TJ, but not Sart? What I meant is that I was going to not do it because of that, so someone could scan me, but I ultimately chose to use it cause I didn't want to die. They probably killed TJ because they were a confirmed villager? I think that's the most likely reason.
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 Just now, Experience said: They probably killed TJ because they were a confirmed villager? I think that's the most likely reason. That, and unlike sart, not many people knew of the fact they were confirmed, so they were less likely to be protected. I mean, Sart, if you HAVE to share your village scan at night, at LEAST leave time for people to protect them
Experience he/him Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 Just now, The Young Pyromancer said: That, and unlike sart, not many people knew of the fact they were confirmed, so they were less likely to be protected. I mean, Sart, if you HAVE to share your village scan at night, at LEAST leave time for people to protect them Ya, I dunno then. I think sart just did it that late cuase that's when they got on, and they probably thought they were going to die.
Illwei Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Experience said: Ya, I dunno then. I think sart just did it that late cuase that's when they got on, and they probably thought they were going to die. OR and hear me out- OR because they're actually an Elim and...I- I don't know where I was going with this. anyways- yeah. okay. no, that makes sense. I guess I would have killed TJ too. that brings me to something i forgot that I was going to post before: I am now adding a fourth thing to my suspicious activities list, way at the bottom, and that is: Saying "I might die soon", "I think I might be the next elim target", etc. Personally if I was an elim I wouldn't kill anyone who said that. Therefore I see it as an easy way for Elims who are blending in to hide the fact that they haven't been nk'd yet. yeah. as my list gets longer the reasons get shakier
Ashbringer he/him Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Illwei said: @Ashbringer is this the post you're talking about? because....I mean, I don't see why you think it's 'very strange' ? In my attempts to look for the post though, I did see one where Vapor seems defensive after Elandera puts a vote on Mint, and that combined with Frozen Mint then voting for Mist makes me kinda suspicious, and... and I assume this is why people were a tad suspicious of Mint before. and...and I'm probably just now catching up...huh... Yup, that post. I just found it a strange reaction to a poke vote. She specifically said “the reason I followed but didn’t vote is...”, which seems like more of a defensive position than a single poke vote should warrant. Instead of merely saying she was here, she attempted to justify a fairly innocuous action, which seems like a hurried attempt to get a vote off of herself. Hindsight is 20/20, but I feel like someone should have spotted that. And in Experience’s (somewhat) defense, we did essentially order all alignment scanners to target Lotus.
Mint11 she/her Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 Gah. I got the passion of protection and used it to protect Sart. I considered switching it to TJ after Sart's reveal but decided against it. :/ Experience for now. I'll probably make another post by the end of the cycle.
Coffeecat she/her Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 I got nothing because i forgot to ask for a table yay!
Experience he/him Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Frozen Mint said: Gah. I got the passion of protection and used it to protect Sart. I considered switching it to TJ after Sart's reveal but decided against it. :/ Experience for now. I'll probably make another post by the end of the cycle. Hmm. This seems unusual to me, and I don't remember if you previously said if/why you are suspicious of me, and it seems like your just jumping on a train to kill me. EDIT: oops, I forgot. Pyro, Frozen Mint. @Frozen Mint Edited September 5, 2020 by Experience
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 22 minutes ago, Experience said: Hmm. This seems unusual to me, and I don't remember if you previously said if/why you are suspicious of me, and it seems like your just jumping on a train to kill me. EDIT: oops, I forgot. Pyro, Frozen Mint. @Frozen Mint Note to self: Flag for later review upon flip.
Kynedath Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 Okay, I'm really so so sorry everyone! I'm getting used to trying to make online school work which is a bigger struggle than I had imagined so I couldn't give this game nearly as much attention as it deserved. I'm going to try to be way way more active and I'm going to go back and make an ACTUAL suspicion list this time. I'm hoping that since there are less people I can commit more to this game. I've always been better at the late game since there is less chaos in general, but that's no excuse. In the meantime I looked into why people are voting for Experience and it looks like it was their posts defending Vapor? That could be an elim sign, but it could also be their actual thoughts. I don't know, it looks very convenient, but their tone of voice makes me want to give them a little leeway. If there is anything else that is making people vote on them then please let me know so I can take a look at it. I recognise that I'm relatively uninformed, so I'm going to hold off voting until I can have gotten back into the game a little more. 2
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