Shqueeves he/him Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 28 minutes ago, Quiver said: ...Would any musicians here mind if I PM them about stuff? I'm trying to create a setting based on music, and having a bit of difficult researching it; was wondering if people would mind me asking them questions directly. Go for it. I'm a pianist and violinist. I'll do my best to answer any/all questions. Keep in mind that my music theory isn't the best 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyperson Posted February 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 39 minutes ago, Quiver said: ...Would any musicians here mind if I PM them about stuff? I'm trying to create a setting based on music, and having a bit of difficult researching it; was wondering if people would mind me asking them questions directly. Totally. Fire away. Guitar, piano, vocals, a litany of miscellaneous musicalities. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiver he/him Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 48 minutes ago, Left said: Do you need like technique and music theory stuff? There are some things I can help with ( I'm a pianist) but there's plenty I don't know. 28 minutes ago, Shqueeves said: Go for it. I'm a pianist and violinist. I'll do my best to answer any/all questions. Keep in mind that my music theory isn't the best 19 minutes ago, bleeder said: Totally. Fire away. Guitar, piano, vocals, a litany of miscellaneous musicalities. I...am kind of starting from scratch, frankly. The problem is, I don't know what it is I don't know, ya know? So I'm not sure how to research it... I'm a little confused by definitions. I know a note is the most basic level of music. I'm a little less clear on pitch and tone, and how they differ from one another. And then there's timbre, which is...quality of sound, I think, but I'm not sure how one judges that? In all honesty... I'm starting pretty much from square one. The problem is that it feels like stuff which explains definitions (like Wikipedia) expect some kind of knowledge of music, which... I don't have. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyperson Posted February 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Just now, Quiver said: I...am kind of starting from scratch, frankly. The problem is, I don't know what it is I don't know, ya know? So I'm not sure how to research it... I'm a little confused by definitions. I know a note is the most basic level of music. I'm a little less clear on pitch and tone, and how they differ from one another. And then there's timbre, which is...quality of sound, I think, but I'm not sure how one judges that? In all honesty... I'm starting pretty much from square one. The problem is that it feels like stuff which explains definitions (like Wikipedia) expect some kind of knowledge of music, which... I don't have. What is the context for this search for enlightenment? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiver he/him Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 9 minutes ago, bleeder said: What is the context for this search for enlightenment? I've kind of been playing around with an idea for a fantasy setting, where the magic is based upon music; kind of blending synaesthesia with shamanism, to an extent. ...but, because music is BIG DEAL for this society, not knowing anything about it on my end is kind if holding me back some in terms of "How do I develop this thing", so... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyperson Posted February 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, Quiver said: I've kind of been playing around with an idea for a fantasy setting, where the magic is based upon music; kind of blending synaesthesia with shamanism, to an extent. ...but, because music is BIG DEAL for this society, not knowing anything about it on my end is kind if holding me back some in terms of "How do I develop this thing", so... Hm... Interesting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiver he/him Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, bleeder said: Hm... Interesting. Yeah...Haven't posted anything about it since it IS completely underdeveloped, but I want to change that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaymyth she/her Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 41 minutes ago, Quiver said: I...am kind of starting from scratch, frankly. The problem is, I don't know what it is I don't know, ya know? So I'm not sure how to research it... I'm a little confused by definitions. I know a note is the most basic level of music. I'm a little less clear on pitch and tone, and how they differ from one another. And then there's timbre, which is...quality of sound, I think, but I'm not sure how one judges that? In all honesty... I'm starting pretty much from square one. The problem is that it feels like stuff which explains definitions (like Wikipedia) expect some kind of knowledge of music, which... I don't have. I'd be a good resource. I took almost all of the coursework necessary for a music degree; there's some stuff that I've forgotten, but music theory, aural skills, a lot of the basics about how and why different instruments work the way they do - I have tons of knowledge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left he/him Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 43 minutes ago, Quiver said: I've kind of been playing around with an idea for a fantasy setting, where the magic is based upon music; kind of blending synaesthesia with shamanism, to an extent. ...but, because music is BIG DEAL for this society, not knowing anything about it on my end is kind if holding me back some in terms of "How do I develop this thing", so... Ahhh, okay. So maybe read Spellsong Sorceress by LE Modesitt. Basically a university music professor from America is magically summoned to a planet where the magic system is completely based on vocal music. First, the book gives you a breakdown of music terms and stuff, and it may inspire you on some new ways to use music and the access to the magic. Then consult Kaymyth or the rest of us to fill in your gaps in knowledge! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistrunner Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Quiver said: ...Would any musicians here mind if I PM them about stuff? I'm trying to create a setting based on music, and having a bit of difficult researching it; was wondering if people would mind me asking them questions directly. I'm no expert, but I like to think I know something about music. That's if you're still looking for people, that is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemalurgic Headshot he/him Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Hey @Quiver, just saying that I'm a bassoonist, and that the Great Bassoon Above will come and steal your kittens if you do not make the bassoon an object of great power, like a bassoonazooka or a bassniper, or an inter dimensional space laser. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistrunner Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, Hemalurgic_Headshot said: Hey @Quiver, just saying that I'm a bassoonist, and that the Great Bassoon Above will come and steal your kittens if you do not make the bassoon an object of great power, like a bassoonazooka or a bassniper, or an inter dimensional space laser. In this vein, does not the contrabass bugle look vaguely like it's about to start shooting cannonballs out of its bell? Spoiler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemalurgic Headshot he/him Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Just now, Mistrunner said: In this vein, does not the contrabass bugle look vaguely like it's about to start shooting cannonballs out of its bell? Reveal hidden contents Yes, yes it does. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) Just chiming in: I also have idea of magic music for some time now (those who frequent Creation Daily might remember project Lanternlight). But I need to approach it from a little more physics side... wavelengths, frequencies... I have some really basic music knowledge (I can read notes) but nothing advanced . Some recommendations where can I start researching? The setting is kinda steampunk but music magic is basically a means of survival there. Edited February 22, 2017 by Oversleep 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Budgie she/her Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 10 hours ago, Quiver said: ...Would any musicians here mind if I PM them about stuff? I'm trying to create a setting based on music, and having a bit of difficult researching it; was wondering if people would mind me asking them questions directly. Sounds interesting. I also do music, and we have to learn about lots of music stuff. I play classical guitar, and I would be happy to help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikerEZ he/him Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 9 hours ago, Quiver said: I...am kind of starting from scratch, frankly. The problem is, I don't know what it is I don't know, ya know? So I'm not sure how to research it... I'm a little confused by definitions. I know a note is the most basic level of music. I'm a little less clear on pitch and tone, and how they differ from one another. And then there's timbre, which is...quality of sound, I think, but I'm not sure how one judges that? In all honesty... I'm starting pretty much from square one. The problem is that it feels like stuff which explains definitions (like Wikipedia) expect some kind of knowledge of music, which... I don't have. I'm a musician (I play clarinet, bass clarinet, and I'm teaching myself how to play the alto saxophone), and I have a pretty good idea of how music works. Those terms took me a long time to understand as well, but it is quite simple really...actually not really, but that's why I'd be glad to help you! This would help me out too, since I'm planning on taking music theory next year and, eventually, becoming a band director. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Slowswift he/him Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 6 hours ago, Mistrunner said: In this vein, does not the contrabass bugle look vaguely like it's about to start shooting cannonballs out of its bell? Hide contents You remind me of how in MI:5, an assassin's rifle is disguised as a bass flute. It was actually kind of awesome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunbird she/her Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 @Quiver I consider myself fairly well versed in music theory (though probably not as well versed as Kaymyth). I took piano lessons for several years when I was younger, and I've played both oboe and percussion in concert/symphonic bands, as well as marching snare drum and marching bass drum. I spent a year learning a bit of violin with an orchestra in middle school, too, so I also have a little knowledge of stringed instruments. And I like to sing; I did two years of choir in high school. I would LOVE to talk music and share whatever knowledge I can to help you figure out your magic system. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 12 hours ago, Quiver said: I've kind of been playing around with an idea for a fantasy setting, where the magic is based upon music; kind of blending synaesthesia with shamanism, to an extent. ...but, because music is BIG DEAL for this society, not knowing anything about it on my end is kind if holding me back some in terms of "How do I develop this thing", so... You should read The Hush by Sky Melki-Wegener 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mestiv he/him Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 After reading the last page, it looks like if 85% of the Shard has some music experience, plays a couple instruments and knows at least a bit about music theory is there anything you guys don't know/don't do? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 24 minutes ago, Mestiv said: After reading the last page, it looks like if 85% of the Shard has some music experience, plays a couple instruments and knows at least a bit about music theory is there anything you guys don't know/don't do? I don't smoke for one thing. And the only musical instrument I know about are the drums, I am hopeless at everything else (except piano, I'm ok at that) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Budgie she/her Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Mestiv said: After reading the last page, it looks like if 85% of the Shard has some music experience, plays a couple instruments and knows at least a bit about music theory is there anything you guys don't know/don't do? ...I can't play football? Or any other sports. Except for swimming. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyperson Posted February 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 8 hours ago, A Budgie said: Sounds interesting. I also do music, and we have to learn about lots of music stuff. I play classical guitar, and I would be happy to help. You play classical? Nice! I've got a little Brazilian classical from '65. Wish I knew how to play it as it was made. But, y'know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Budgie she/her Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 42 minutes ago, bleeder said: You play classical? Nice! I've got a little Brazilian classical from '65. Wish I knew how to play it as it was made. But, y'know. Oh wow, that sounds like a really nice guitar. I have a handmade one I half stole from the school, but I don't have any really good ones. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyperson Posted February 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, A Budgie said: Oh wow, that sounds like a really nice guitar. I have a handmade one I half stole from the school, but I don't have any really good ones. I don't really have any great ones either (but I play a lot); I have a Squier Classic Vibe Thinline Tele (the only one I bought myself, I inherited the other two), a 70's Sigma (overseas Martin, basically), and the classical as the ones I play the most. Edited February 23, 2017 by bleeder 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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