Bladestorm Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, antgrgmn said: This feels op to me. He can basically counter any epics without any significant downfalls. Combined with invisibility, or even without the invisibility, he would be pretty much impossible to stop if he had anyone to help him out. Agreed.
Hemalurgic Headshot he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 20 minutes ago, antgrgmn said: This feels op to me. He can basically counter any epics without any significant downfalls. Combined with invisibility, or even without the invisibility, he would be pretty much impossible to stop if he had anyone to help him out. Hmmm. Well, I'm trying to make this guy anti-Epic. Perhaps if it was changed to where the 30 ft area negation stays, but instead of a sustained negation through sight (and this replaces the invisibility as well) he can freeze a target in place (like petrification)?
nmgrgtna he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 Just now, Hemalurgic Headshot said: Hmmm. Well, I'm trying to make this guy anti-Epic. Perhaps if it was changed to where the 30 ft area negation stays, but instead of a sustained negation through sight (and this replaces the invisibility as well) he can freeze a target in place (like petrification)? Could the person still use any epic abilities, or think while frozen? Also is the 30 ft negation automatic, or does he have to notice and consciously think to negate their power?
Hemalurgic Headshot he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 Just now, antgrgmn said: Could the person still use any epic abilities, or think while frozen? Also is the 30 ft negation automatic, or does he have to notice and consciously think to negate their power? The 30ft negation is automatic, but he has to be conscious. A petrified person can still think, and use Epic abilities that do not require movement or speech, such as some passive abilities. Technically, an Epic that was petrified could teleport out of sight, since that does not require movement to accomplish.
nmgrgtna he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Hemalurgic Headshot said: The 30ft negation is automatic, but he has to be conscious. A petrified person can still think, and use Epic abilities that do not require movement or speech, such as some passive abilities. Technically, an Epic that was petrified could teleport out of sight, since that does not require movement to accomplish. I'm okay with this. Can he freeze multiple targets at once?
Hemalurgic Headshot he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 Just now, antgrgmn said: I'm okay with this. Can he freeze multiple targets at once? Usually only one target, but if there are no other distractions and he exerts a ton of willpower, he could freeze two, maybe.
nmgrgtna he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Hemalurgic Headshot said: Usually only one target, but if there are no other distractions and he exerts a ton of willpower, he could freeze two, maybe. This sounds much more balanced to me.
Kidpen he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 Negation of all epic abilities, completely in the 30 feet? That would still feel OP to me. Maybe leave passive abilities on, and only stop them from actively using an ability.
Hemalurgic Headshot he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Kidpen said: Negation of all epic abilities, completely in the 30 feet? That would still feel OP to me. Maybe leave passive abilities on, and only stop them from actively using an ability. Sounds alright. This will allow Epics with PIs like reincarnation to remain in effect if they were killed within the 30ft area. Edit: @antgrgmn could you maybe spoiler the Borrower's bio? For some reason it is double spaced and takes up a ton of room. Edited June 24, 2018 by Hemalurgic Headshot
nmgrgtna he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, Hemalurgic Headshot said: Sounds alright. This will allow Epics with PIs like reincarnation to remain in effect if they were killed within the 30ft area. Edit: @antgrgmn could you maybe spoiler the Borrower's bio? For some reason it is double spaced and takes up a ton of room. This sounds good to me. Done. I originally copy-pasted from word.
Hemalurgic Headshot he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 1 minute ago, antgrgmn said: This sounds good to me. Done. I originally copy-pasted from word. Also, the Borrower's weakness is a bit vague. "Smarter" is relative to intelligence, and "intelligence" is hard to define. You gave the Borrower's IQ, but many people don't bother to take IQ tests. Would a person have to express that they know something that the Borrower does not know, or could the Borrower be unaware of the other person's intelligence and still have the weakness take effect?
nmgrgtna he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 Just now, Hemalurgic Headshot said: Also, the Borrower's weakness is a bit vague. "Smarter" is relative to intelligence, and "intelligence" is hard to define. You gave the Borrower's IQ, but many people don't bother to take IQ tests. Would a person have to express that they know something that the Borrower does not know, or could the Borrower be unaware of the other person's intelligence and still have the weakness take effect? I was going for a direct comparison, but I am leaning more toward if the Borrower thinks they are smarter than him. The more sure he is that they are smarter, the more his powers are weakened.
Hemalurgic Headshot he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 Just now, antgrgmn said: I was going for a direct comparison, but I am leaning more toward if the Borrower thinks they are smarter than him. The more sure he is that they are smarter, the more his powers are weakened. I this a lot more, because if someone could pull off an amazing bluff, it could technically work.
nmgrgtna he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 Just now, Hemalurgic Headshot said: I this a lot more, because if someone could pull off an amazing bluff, it could technically work. Yes, but the Borrower is cocky af, so it won't be activated randomly. It would have to be some seriously good acting.
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 So basically you need a good chess player to challenge Borrower, which he will agreee to, and then beat him, then shoot him. I really hope my character doesn't challenge Borrower thinking he's a different type of Epic, then boost him, and start the feedback loop .
nmgrgtna he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, The Young Pyromancer said: So basically you need a good chess player to challenge Borrower, which he will agreee to, and then beat him, then shoot him. I really hope my character doesn't challenge Borrower thinking he's a different type of Epic, then boost him, and start the feedback loop . With regards to the weakness, somewhat. Borrower would be nervous for sure, but probably wouldn't assume that the chess player is overall smarter than him. Therefore his powers would be slightly negated, but not fully. And yea, probably best to keep our characters far apart.
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 Because I'm considering making my character's ability automatic. He would wear gloves most of the time, but he would go barefoot so he could kick people. Or should it not require skin-to-skin contact?
MacThorstenson he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 Name: The Creator, or Creator. Primary power: Matter Manipulation. He can turn anything into anything. Conservation of Mass applies. The big difference between him and other epics is that this isn't instinctive. Below is an in depth description of how his powers work. Spoiler Essentially how this works is he has to call up the structure of the object in his mind, then he has to mentally deconstruct it to the relevant sub components*, then mentally reconstruct it. This can take as long as days for complex things, to a few seconds for turning lead into gold. After reconstruction is complete, the object changes. The object changing takes maybe a few seconds if its a large object, otherwise it happens in a second or even instantly. Deconstructing objects takes a lot less time. Doing things in mass also takes a lot less time.^ As a summary of what he can do and the relative difficulties: He can transmute elements relatively easily as he has practiced the most with this. Building individual types of molecules in also easy, but building enough different types of molecules to create an object is extremely difficult. Changing the arrangement of molecules varies with complexity. Its a lot easier to just deconstruct things, so when fighting he tends to do that, if he uses his powers at all. A few examples. Assuming he knew how your weapon was made, he could deconstruct parts of it in a second or less. (turn all the steel to helium, or something else) if he wanted to change the entire thing into helium at once, then it could take a minute or two assuming he knew the weapon. If he didn't, he would need to analyze it, then deconstruct it. The second case would take maybe ten minutes of focus once he knew its structure. Creating a weapon would require days of concentration. He would need to construct all of the molecules, then arrange them in the proper structure, and also think about the way things were made (hammered iron would take more time to construct then poured iron). Creating life would take years of concentration because of its complexity. *If he wants to bend something, or dissolve it, he doesn't need to picture the atoms or molecules, because those aren't changing. The only thing that is changing, is the shape. Whereas if he wanted to turn a phone into a flower, it would take a lot more concentration and focusing on objects on the atomic level. ^It's easier to construct things if he makes all of the water first, then the glucose, then another molecule etc. Then assembles the materials. Secondary power: Able to borrow mind power from willing subjects to speed up the work. So with a large enough crowd of willing subjects, he could create life in days, assuming he knew enough biology. Passive power: He gains a knowledge of the structure objects by holding them/being near them. More knowledge the more he holds/touches them. I changed the third ability to a passive ability to increase his power slightly. This way he will be able to feel for materials in the ground just by standing. Appearence: Brown short hair and eyes. Around 5’ 10”. Clothing varies. Personality: Loves to be right. Nothing makes him happier to be right. He hates to be proven wrong if it’s by a inferior person. He won’t be mad if the scientist proves him wrong, but he will if some plebian from the street proves him wrong. This is also his weakness, as such he tries to avoid making assumptions or declaring his opinions. He is also arrogant when he is right. History: He led his own following of maples for a while after calamity. He would give them riches (gold) in return for their devotion. His faction is TBD. He probably won’t run his own. 2
nmgrgtna he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 38 minutes ago, The Young Pyromancer said: Because I'm considering making my character's ability automatic. He would wear gloves most of the time, but he would go barefoot so he could kick people. Or should it not require skin-to-skin contact? Could you clarify your characters ability?
Hemalurgic Headshot he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 @MacThorstenson In regards to Creator's weakness, how are his powers affected when he is wrong. If he happened to assume someone's name after hearing it in passing mention, but incorrectly, and said person corrected him, how would this affect Creator's powers?
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 He can enhance active powers on contact. The strength of the enhancement is variable. The stronger the enhancement, the higher the cost. Imagine that Epics were like Feruchemists with metalminds that slowly regenerated. Normally, they are fixed to drawing out the power at the rate it regenerates, but Nicroburst can increase the rate they draw apon their power. This will turn off their power for a time afterwards as their power "regenerates", depending on how long he boosted them, how strong the power was originally, and how strongly he enhanced it. So basically he can Nicroburst other Epics.
nmgrgtna he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, The Young Pyromancer said: He can enhance active powers on contact. The strength of the enhancement is variable. The stronger the enhancement, the higher the cost. Imagine that Epics were like Feruchemists with metalminds that slowly regenerated. Normally, they are fixed to drawing out the power at the rate it regenerates, but Nicroburst can increase the rate they draw apon their power. This will turn off their power for a time afterwards as their power "regenerates", depending on how long he boosted them, how strong the power was originally, and how strongly he enhanced it. So basically he can Nicroburst other Epics. Ah ok, I understand. I think that it would have to be a conscious activation to work.
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 Sure. Though it could lead to some funny scenarios if someone is pretending to be a maple...
nmgrgtna he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Young Pyromancer said: Sure. Though it could lead to some funny scenarios if someone is pretending to be a maple... I mean, he would have to pick a power level. I suppose if it automatically used a lower power automatic might work.
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 Nice to mee- Oops! Didn't mean to blow your hand off!
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