Long Game 22: Corenne al'Daishar

[Mailliw73 he/him]

And I'm going to wait until this evening to say anything further about Mailliw.

For your own mysterious reasons?

[Haelbarde he/him]

Hael, stop mayor-voting for me. I prefer not to vote unless I have to, so the power would be wasted on me.

I'd prefer that the second vote went unused than it go to either an eliminator or someone who votes with little reason behind it.

[Amanuensis he/him]

Well, I'm back (sort of; my activity won't be returning to normal anytime soon, due to that cursed thing called life), and it appears that I've missed a lot. Sorry Elbereth for being wrong about you and nearly getting you lynched. But I'll go ahead and look at the bright side of us losing you and say that now knowing your alignment I'm able to narrow down even more players to Padan, and can take solace knowing that there's a significantly smaller chance of there being a Corrupted Wolfsibling.

 

So, assuming that some players, like Stink, haven't been lying from the get go, there are only 6 players currently living that could be Padan. Among those who I have not yet confirmed is Hellscythe, whom has not posted since very early on in N2. Right now I'm wonderig if the real reason we haven't had any corruptions recently is due to inactivity. I don't have the time right now to journey down Analysis Avenue, but if someone would be so kind to look into him, I would appreciate it. Other tentative Padan's include Winter, Bugsy, Araris, Rubiks and Jaime.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

@Mailliw: I already said that I am waiting to see if any other players have a response to the writeup, and I want to give them a chance to respond before I post.

[Gamma Fiend he/him]

A Quick Mod announcement for everybody! I was just informed that the site will be going down in a few hours, and will be down for ~12 hours or so! (I know, sad face, time away from Elimination!) But to help make up for this downtime, I will be EXTENDING THE DAY CYCLE BY AN EXTRA 24 HOURS   So the cycle will now end at 2AM EST, Thursday the 16th!

 

See you all on the other side of the big update for the site!

[Haelbarde he/him]

  So the cycle will now end at 2AM EST, Thursday the 16th!

You went and outdated my countdown :'(

[Metacognition he/him]

Well, I'm back (sort of; my activity won't be returning to normal anytime soon, due to that cursed thing called life), and it appears that I've missed a lot. Sorry Elbereth for being wrong about you and nearly getting you lynched. But I'll go ahead and look at the bright side of us losing you and say that now knowing your alignment I'm able to narrow down even more players to Padan, and can take solace knowing that there's a significantly smaller chance of there being a Corrupted Wolfsibling.

 

So, assuming that some players, like Stink, haven't been lying from the get go, there are only 6 players currently living that could be Padan. Among those who I have not yet confirmed is Hellscythe, whom has not posted since very early on in N2. Right now I'm wonderig if the real reason we haven't had any corruptions recently is due to inactivity. I don't have the time right now to journey down Analysis Avenue, but if someone would be so kind to look into him, I would appreciate it. Other tentative Padan's include Winter, Bugsy, Araris, Rubiks and Jaime.

 

I was just thinking the same thing about Fain maybe being inactive. It's either that or they're trying to save their corruptions for later on. I just doubt that we're getting this lucky with Fain's corruptions going towards those that are detained or otherwise untargetable. 

 

Winter, Jaime, and Araris have been on during that time though; at least to some degree. I'm not quite sure about Rubiks and Hellscythe. I've gotten a villagery read on Araris right now, so I doubt he's Fain. So let's put some pressure on Hellscythe to come and speak up right now. 

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

I've got Haelbarde and Rubiks as my top 2 suspects for Fain at the moment. Araris is a distant third, but, like I've said before, I'm leaning village for him. I am fine with the votes on Hellscythe though. He's one of my top suspects for Darkfriend, although it's not that strong of a suspicion. I'm not really sure who could be the last Darkfriend at this point. I need to go back and do some real research on the living players that I don't have very good reads on. Conq is a little suspicious to me, but his attitude about his defenses of Sart and Gunshy is kind of odd and I don't know what to make of it.

 

Okay, looking over my notes, I have most players as non-Darkfriends. Here's the list: Conquestor, Haelbarde, Hellscythe, Winter(sorta, I have her as leaning village, but I'm not very confident in that read, so I put her on here), Rubik. That's it. Very short list.

 

I've got Aman, Joe/Nyali, Sheep, Meta, Lopen, Stink and Jaime as all almost 100% not-Darkfriends. The rest are all village reads, but not quite as confident.

 

So the 'village reads but not as confident' people are: Mailliw, Elodin, Bard, Bugsy, Araris.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Araris, time for that damning evidence yet?

[STINK he/him]

After a nice 12 hour break, shall we go back to killing?

[Gamma Fiend he/him]

Whew! Fancy new update and everything! 17th Shard looking slick! And yes, time to get back to our regularly scheduled killings!

[Haelbarde he/him]

@Araris Valerian I assume that plenty of time has passed for what you had to say? Or does the server down time not count?

[Young Bard he/him]

@Hellscythe is not Fain. I know their role for certain, they didn't lie about that. I am also about 95% confident that they're not a Darkfriend either.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

Well, I never said anything about damning evidence. All I said is that I suspect you, Mailliw. The reason I was waiting is that my action was redirected last night, and the results showed up in the writeup. So I was hoping that whoever redirected my action would have spoken up. Anyway, that person is probably a Darkfriend, since they caused Straw to die. My (minor) reason for suspecting Mailliw is that he knew Wilson was a Warder. And while Wilson is a very strong player that makes sense for the DF team to target at any time, I trust Mailliw less now since he is the only person I know of that had that information, and thus knew that taking out Wilson would cause a double-kill. So again, I'm not saying lynch Mailliw, since my vote is on Conquestor, where I believe it should be. But it's something to consider for you guys when weighing suspicions.

[Young Bard he/him]

2 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

Well, I never said anything about damning evidence. All I said is that I suspect you, Mailliw. The reason I was waiting is that my action was redirected last night, and the results showed up in the writeup. So I was hoping that whoever redirected my action would have spoken up. Anyway, that person is probably a Darkfriend, since they caused Straw to die. My (minor) reason for suspecting Mailliw is that he knew Wilson was a Warder. And while Wilson is a very strong player that makes sense for the DF team to target at any time, I trust Mailliw less now since he is the only person I know of that had that information, and thus knew that taking out Wilson would cause a double-kill. So again, I'm not saying lynch Mailliw, since my vote is on Conquestor, where I believe it should be. But it's something to consider for you guys when weighing suspicions.

How do you know Wilson's role? I thought you didn't do RC's? PM Safety and all of that?

Edited June 14, 2016 by The Young Bard
Decided to elaborate my argument.

[Bugsy he/him]

2 hours ago, Araris Valerian said:

Well, I never said anything about damning evidence. All I said is that I suspect you, Mailliw. The reason I was waiting is that my action was redirected last night, and the results showed up in the writeup. So I was hoping that whoever redirected my action would have spoken up. Anyway, that person is probably a Darkfriend, since they caused Straw to die. My (minor) reason for suspecting Mailliw is that he knew Wilson was a Warder. And while Wilson is a very strong player that makes sense for the DF team to target at any time, I trust Mailliw less now since he is the only person I know of that had that information, and thus knew that taking out Wilson would cause a double-kill. So again, I'm not saying lynch Mailliw, since my vote is on Conquestor, where I believe it should be. But it's something to consider for you guys when weighing suspicions.

I'm of the opinion Seodin likely redirected you, since redirects come before kills. With the way his role was described in the writeup and OP, plus for meta reasons, I'm guessing it was probably unique, and that only he could have used it on you. Plus, even if there were 2 redirects, I doubt the Elims would have gotten both.

And Wilson was marshaling the defense pretty heavily, and got some really good reads. If I'm right, she got 2/2 of her votes on DFs. Of course they wanted to kill her ASAP. I'm pretty sure it was more in regards to her experience than the potential for a double kill, so it doesn't really increase my suspicion for Maill

2 hours ago, The Young Bard said:

How do you know Wilson's role? I thought you didn't do RC's? PM Safety and all of that?

Fairly certain he's referring to the fact that Wilson is dead, and their role is now public knowledge. Araris also seems to be hinting that his warder was Wilson (and outright claiming he's a channeler)

Edited June 15, 2016 by Bugsy6912
Changed "insinuating" to "hinting", no negative connotation was meant

[Araris Valerian he/him]

11 minutes ago, Bugsy6912 said:

Fairly certain he's referring to the fact that Wilson is dead, and their role is now public knowledge. Araris also seems to be insinuating that his warder was Wilson (and outright claiming he's a channeler)

Yeah, Wilson was my Warder. I tried to fireball Mailliw last night, and instead hit Straw. This is my last day cycle alive :(.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

29 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

Well, I never said anything about damning evidence. All I said is that I suspect you, Mailliw. The reason I was waiting is that my action was redirected last night, and the results showed up in the writeup. So I was hoping that whoever redirected my action would have spoken up. Anyway, that person is probably a Darkfriend, since they caused Straw to die. My (minor) reason for suspecting Mailliw is that he knew Wilson was a Warder. And while Wilson is a very strong player that makes sense for the DF team to target at any time, I trust Mailliw less now since he is the only person I know of that had that information, and thus knew that taking out Wilson would cause a double-kill. So again, I'm not saying lynch Mailliw, since my vote is on Conquestor, where I believe it should be. But it's something to consider for you guys when weighing suspicions.

 

2 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

Yeah, Wilson was my Warder. I tried to fireball Mailliw last night, and instead hit Straw. This is my last day cycle alive :(.

Ah, it was you. Makes sense now. 

Thanks, Ta'veren that saved me. Obviously, Straw dying wasn't good. But I'm glad I'm alive and you all will be too. 

Like they said, though, I'm pretty sure Wilson was targeted for her position in thread and her lynches, not her role. Though, I was also not the only one who knew her role. I'll have to find the PM with her to see if she mentioned names, but I know that Meta and Stink at least knew. Possible a few others. 

[jaimeleecee she/her]

So nice and fancy!!

Anyway, that's some pretty helpful information Araris, sorry to see you go :/ did you share with anyone that you were going to target Maill with the kill? I think it does make sense that Seonid redirected you considering his role and that the DF's would absolutely want to take out Straw.  That also leaves the question of how did they know you were a channeler? Maybe they were just trying to test your role to see what you are? Or maybe a DF knew what you were and wanted to use your kill.. or protect Maill and get a kill? 

Edited June 15, 2016 by jaimeleecee

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

On 6/14/2016 at 4:28 PM, The Young Bard said:

@Hellscythe is not Fain. I know their role for certain, they didn't lie about that. I am also about 95% confident that they're not a Darkfriend either.

You're 100% certain about his role? Hmm. Well, I'm assuming you're telling the truth, so I suppose he's not Fain then, at least. Not sure what role would make you be so confident he's not a Darkfriend though. Mailliw, do you have any info about whether Hellscythe could be Fain or not?

I'm not really sure who to vote on right now. I kinda want to vote on Haelbarde, because I think he's my top suspect for Fain at the moment, but I don't know. I'm not too confident in that suspicion. Well, for lack of a better suspect at the moment, I'll put my vote on Hael for now. Not sure what good it does, but whatever.

I'd also like to hear from @winter devotion, @Conquestor and @RubiksCube about who they suspect/trust right now. They haven't been talking about their opinions on players much lately.

Has @Straw revealed who he scanned yet?

Edit: Oh, and don't worry, I'm not usually gonna @mention players all the time like that. I just thought I'd try it out.

Edited June 16, 2016 by TheMightyLopen
Greened vote

[Mailliw73 he/him]

I know his claimed role and it would make too much sense for him to actually gave it. So I would bet on him not being Fain. 

[Master Elodin]

Wow, this is a really slow thread.  Can someone do an alignment or role reveal and stir these folks up? Also, I just realized, Lopen, are you Jak-of-the-Shadows?  The name is just too... um.. implicating.

Edited June 15, 2016 by Master Elodin
I don't know how to say things

[Metacognition he/him]

I'm still not entirely sure that I trust Bard, period. But, I don't think it would make much sense for them to be Fain and the Corrupted together and out each other like this either. Especially now that Maill is backing up this claim as well. There's only been the one corruption so far after all. 

So I'll remove my vote for Hellscythe. I'm not too sure on who I would suspect other than that though. I'd say that I have the least read of Rubiks right now, so let's see if we can get them talking a bit more. 

Edited June 15, 2016 by Metacognition

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

1 hour ago, Master Elodin said:

Also, I just realized, Lopen, are you Jak-of-the-Shadows?  The name is just too... um.. implicating.

I have no idea what you're talking about. 

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

1 hour ago, TheMightyLopen said:

Has @Straw revealed who he scanned yet?

Isn't he dead? He scanned Ebereth and got killed I think, as did El. (Ok, the think bit is a Lie, I made him scan Elbereth, so it should be know, not think.)