Long Game 20: Warcamp Enigmas

[Elbereth she/her]

Well. I'm going to venture a guess that Joe's Shardblade did not end up in the hands of the GBs, then. Which is excellent. Also, there are two Shardblades in the game. Interesting how one of them hasn't shown up until now.

Equally interesting is how our Grandbow user, up to this point as regular as clockwork, for some reason decided not to kill. Or was roleblocked, perhaps? Although two kills being blocked in the same night would be stretching my credulity...

Did anyone get attacked?

Edited May 6, 2016 by Elbereth

[Macen he/him]

I'm curios if the attack that was blocked was the GB, or the Grand Bow.

[Elbereth she/her]

I would guess GB, since there's more of a likelihood of a Grandbow user deciding not to attack than the GBs forgetting. The latter isn't impossible, though. And I don't think a Pain Knife block would show as someone being attacked in the writeup. Maill?

[Mailliw73 he/him]

A Pain Knife blocks the attempt, so no, it would not show up. And it was the Ghostblood kill.

Edited May 6, 2016 by Mailliw73

[Macen he/him]

I would like to start off by voting for DC.

[Seonid he/him]

There are 16 people left alive by my count. Of these, I am certain of the alignment of one - myself (Noble). I trust Wilson and Nyali, and believe that DC is almost certainly a Noble.

 

That leaves 12 remaining players - Burnt, Kasimir, Lopen, Elbereth, Mark, Alvron, Kynedath, AliasSheep, Zas, Twei, Macen, and Stink.

 

Of these twelve (or possibly, of the 15 that are not me, as I have been known to be dead wrong about players before), at least 4 are evil. I am quite certain of that - Meta's square root rule leaves 5 as the minimum here. Other, more generous GMs generally run 20-25% evil. That gives us between 5.6 (rounded up to 6) and 7 evil players. So we have a minimum of 4 left and possibly up to 6.

 

With an Artifabrian, that gives them an extra kill every 3 rounds, so I'm not willing to believe 6 left. At least one thief reduces the villager's numbers, but I think we're reasonably justified in assuming an initial Eliminator team of 6, with one dead.

 

Almost certain that they did not start with a Shardblade. They might have started with a Grandbow - if they did, they likely only numbered 5 to begin with. That extra kill is potent.

 

They might have an Emotion Bracelet - it gives them an item scanning ability, which is useful. They likely did not start with an Alerter; but I given the number of Grandbows and artifabrians in this game, I suspect that at least one started with a Painrial and/or a Half Shard. It is also possible that one began with Plate. That would be odd, considering that their secondary win con is to acquire plate, blade, and soulcaster, but it's not an unthinkable proposition.

 

We have 2 demonstrated Shardblades. It is possible that an inactive player has another, or that a player has chosen to keep theirs hidden. It is also possible that the player with a shardblade also had another Tier 1A item that they preferred using - a Soulcaster, perhaps? Or a Pain knife?

 

That may have been what happened to the Grandbow users - or they may have been the targets of a pain knife. Or one of each. I suspect we end up with two permanent Grandbow holders - three attacks happened yesterday, but one was a confirmed Artifabrian shot. That's a lot of kill roles - 2 Blades and 2 Bows, plus 3 artifabrians.

 

That both Shardblade users attacked Trelagist is an interesting conundrum. I am not quite willing to clear both of them - the Ghostbloods had as much reason to want Trel dead as we did. He was a known noble to them, and therefore a fine target. At the same time, killing the targets the village wanted them to gives a veneer of trust over the Shardblade user. No, I'm not going to clear the Shardblade users. I still believe it possible that Joe's Blade has found its way into the hands of our enemies.

 

I also suspect that at least one Ghostblood is a Spy. It seems thematically fitting, and would be useful in the same manner as an Emotion Bracelet.

 

Now on to suspects. First, a note on Trell - sorry. I (not just me, but I helped) got you to be the target of the Village Shardblade squad. (And maybe a Ghostblood Shardblade holder, as well). Your arguments against Wilson were what made me suspect you - they seemed like eliminator arguments to get rid of a skilled and dangerous player. And the fact that you unilaterally attacked her was another point against you. And now you're dead, and I was wrong. Sorry about that. I may end up joining you before the end.

 

Of the twelve which I have no reason to believe Noble, I have been most suspicious of Elb. The more I read her posts, the less I feel I have reason to be suspicious, but it still lingers there.

 

I suspect at least one Ghostblood is inactive, and I will at least bring up the possibility of focusing Grandbows and Shardblades on those who have not posted for more than a cycle. Some of our inactives may have legitimate reason (as I did) - I believe Kasimir is among those. There might be others that I have missed or don't remember (my brain is shot from homework assignments).

 

I am still wary of Alvron - this playstyle is normal for him; he seldom posts in the beginning of a game. But it is an excellent place to hide as a Ghostblood. He has a reputation for being silent, waiting to compile information, until he is ready to strike. I can't get a read on him, since he isn't posting. So I'm calling him out to post.

 

Macen, your vote for DC is interesting. The consensus yesterday was that both DC and Wilson were village. I didn't notice you dissenting then (though please feel free to correct me if I missed something). Also, I find it a strong probability that DC was the target of the Ghostblood attack last night, which should clear him. Someone was attacked but saved, and DC (by my count) had only taken a single attack on his Plate. I believe that he baited the Ghostbloods into attacking him last night, by pretending that his Plate was exhausted, thus wasting their attack. That gives me strong reason to trust him. I'd like to hear your suspicions.

 

I'd like to hear from Kynedath and Lopen, Stink, DC, Twei and zas. We have a lot of people that aren't saying much. Let's change that.

[Zas678 he/him]

Hey all. Sorry I haven't been around lately- that I was inactive for a day or two. I'm rereading the thread and will give my impressions once I'm caught up.

 

EDIT-

 

Alvron-

 

Zas, did you know Joe had a Shardblade?  If so, do you know of anyone else that knew of his Blade?  Did you know that Elodin has a Soulcaster?  Why did Joe attack Elodin because of you?  Do you know why Joe was going to attack 12th?

 

I think that the GBs knew Joe had a Blade and redirected it to someone random to insure it didn't hit one of them while also killing Joe to get his Blade.  Hopefully Zas can tell us who knew of Joe's Blade.

 

No, I didn't know about his blade. I wasn't in communication with him. I assume that the reason why Joe attacked Elodin because of me was because of the suspicion and vote I had placed on Elodin on Day 2.

 

As for the Duel, that was a massive waste of time, which makes me suspicious of DC. However, Mark's levelheaded suggestion of a "night lynch", allowing us to continue discussion was a levelheaded idea that makes me less suspicious of him

 

That's most of the take I have so far, besides the fact that I'm at least convinced that both Wilson and DC aren't Eliminators. One of them might be (I would lean towards DC, if only because Wilson's tone seems to be more villager than Eliminator), but I would say definitely not both. This duel (and the PM dispute earlier) seems to have a little too much frustration in it to be nefariously fabricated by two conniving Eliminators. 

 

DOUBLE EDIT-

 

I'll also add on a poke vote to Lopen. I don't remember hearing anything from you in a long time, and I want to know what your take on the game so far is.

[Alvron]

I am still wary of Alvron - this playstyle is normal for him; he seldom posts in the beginning of a game. But it is an excellent place to hide as a Ghostblood. He has a reputation for being silent, waiting to compile information, until he is ready to strike. I can't get a read on him, since he isn't posting. So I'm calling him out to post.

Thanks.  I always like it when people are wary of me.  Makes me think they are constantly looking over their shoulder hoping to catch me sneaking up on them.

 

I only post when I have something to say so I'm not sure what you are wanting from me.

 

I however would still like to hear from Zas about the questions I asked in Day Four.

Edited May 6, 2016 by Alvron

[Zas678 he/him]

I answered some of it above, but to be thorough...

 

Zas, did you know Joe had a Shardblade?

Nope. I had no contact with Joe.

 

 If so, do you know of anyone else that knew of his Blade?

No, I didn't. I didn't have any PMs with anybody at that point in the game.

 

 Did you know that Elodin has a Soulcaster?  

I didn't. 

 

Why did Joe attack Elodin because of you?

Probably because Joe read my accusation and vote of Elodin from Day 2, agreed with it, though apparently not enough to vote for him. Or I suppose, he didn't see it until after the end of the cycle. I posted late-ish.

 

 Do you know why Joe was going to attack 12th?

Afraid not. I haven't had any PMs open with Joe this whole game, nor words passed through grapevines with him.

[Seonid he/him]

Thanks, Alv. I'd like to hear your current suspicions, actually. Also, I totally forgot that we had had a whole conversation in Day 4. I blame finals week.

 

Also, thanks Zas for responding. I agree, Mark does seem increasingly like a Village read - the way he tried to keep discussion going is a villager-ish thing to do. Not enough to hard-confirm him, but I'll put him on my 'leaning towards Village' list.

 

EDIT: Also, for Mail:

 

طعنتين

 

I give you "two stabs."

Edited May 6, 2016 by Seonid

[Mark IV he/him]

Seeing as we have probably two vigilantes willing to help us, do we still want to use the orange votes or are the red ones enough?

@Seonid

DC being attacked would have been quite a bit of planning. I believe the prime reason for attacking him would have been the IKYK at the start of this game where DC kept heiring people. And, if it was carefully planned since then, then I must say, DC has planned carefully. In this case, they'd have liked to keep the loot to themselves by not letting DC die. So, here, I'd look at all the people who voted Wilson D4.

Otherwise, why would the Ghostbloods try to solve us of this confusion by killing one of the dissenters of the duel unless they wanted him dead immediately. So, if this is the case, I'd look at the people who voted for DC last day. They wanted DC dead... (I know it includes me, but I thought this might be worth mentioning. )

I know I'm asking us to look at all the people who voted in the duel D4, but that is my reading from this.

----------(5 minutes later)------------

Come to think of it, Seonid, you might be right. Why not take out a plate holder ASAP? It's like killing two birds with one stone.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

EDIT: Also, for Mail:

 

طعنتين

 

I give you "two stabs."

Ah, thanks! 

[Nyali she/her]

Okay, so:

1. Whomever just used a Shardblade for the first time is, in my opinion, a confirmed Noble. Unless it was Burnt due to her item re-roll.
    
2. I also think it's clear that Joe's Shardblade is in Noble hands. There is no reason for the Ghostbloods to kill Trelagist when they knew we planned to either kill him with a Shardblade or Lynch him the following day.
    
3. Whomever was targeted by the Ghostbloods last night is also confirmed unless there was redirect nonsense going on.
    
4. If a Painrial was used, the user is also cleared unless redirect nonsense happened.
    
5. The person who used a Grandbow to kill Orlok is also pretty much cleared, as I stated yesterday (game time).
    
6. As stated yesterday, so is the Soulcaster who redirected Orlok's item creation on night two.

Also, we know that the Ghostbloods are also almost certainly in the possession of a second Soulcaster (the one used to redirect an attack by Joe to Burnt on night three).

That's six potential mostly confirmed Nobles, if there's no overlap. Even if there is, that's still four or five confirmed Nobles. And anyone else with a Soulcaster becomes suspicious, and a few of us know people who have one.

Is this too early to suggest a mass reveal by those people? Having a third of the remaining players mostly confirmed as loyal could lead to a quick win at this point, especially when those confirmed players include three vigilantes and likely at least one person with a Painrial.


Oh, and if I opened a PM with you late last night turn, sorry for not responding before the end of the night turn. I meant to, but fell asleep unexpectedly early last night.

 

 

EDIT: formatting only

Edited May 6, 2016 by Nyali

[Mark IV he/him]

I get the others, Nyali, by why the first-time shard blade user? Why would they be confirmed?

Nevermind. I got it.

Edited May 6, 2016 by Mark IV

[Burnt Spaghetti she/her]

After this post, my activity is likely going to go down as i'm going away for the weekend to a place i know has limited service. This i guess mainly applies to my pms as i'm not the most active in thread.  Just a heads up. The last 20odd hours before end of day i should be back though so im not gone the whole turn.

[Nyali she/her]

I get the others, Nyali, by why the first-time shard blade user? Why would they be confirmed?

Nevermind. I got it.

I went over that last night, and you seem to understand, but to reiterate, because I don't think an eliminator would start with an infinite use extra night kill and not use it for three consecutive days. On top of that, there's no reason for the eliminators to have killed Trelagist when we Nobles had just all agreed to waste our next kill (vig or lynch) doing it for them

While it could be an inactive eliminator who didn't submit night actions the first few nights or an eliminator playing a long game, I don't think so. Even if it was a long game, I'd expect them to have revealed who they were by now in an attempt to prove their loyalty. If not, what's the advantage to giving up not one but four night kills?

[Macen he/him]

Macen, your vote for DC is interesting. The consensus yesterday was that both DC and Wilson were village. I didn't notice you dissenting then (though please feel free to correct me if I missed something). Also, I find it a strong probability that DC was the target of the Ghostblood attack last night, which should clear him. Someone was attacked but saved, and DC (by my count) had only taken a single attack on his Plate. I believe that he baited the Ghostbloods into attacking him last night, by pretending that his Plate was exhausted, thus wasting their attack. That gives me strong reason to trust him. I'd like to hear your suspicions.

 

If you look at my last 3 posts, pretty much all of them were accusing DC of being a GB.

*EDIT* it was more like two posts - just went back and looked. I talked about how they both could be GB, and I called DC out for wasting a Lynch cycle for the Villagers.

Edited May 6, 2016 by Macen

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Trel:

I wish to sleep. I know now why you do what you do, and I hate you for it. I will not speak of the truths I see.

Except for that Nyali attacked someone tonight!

Have fun!

[Nyali she/her]

Within her rooms, Brightness Arisia paces back and forth. Five, it had been five days, a full week, since the king had died. And those days had been difficult, so very difficult. See spared a glance out the window at the sun rising high in the sky. For the fourth time, she had awoken, alive, much to her surprise. They'll be coming after me, she thought. That fool.. Now I'm three times as likely to die as before! Well, she really couldn't blame him, stabbed through by not one but two Shardblades in one night. She didn't even know if she killed him - it could have been the other one, his face cloaked in shadows. Her face? She wasn't sure, she didn't get a good look, too terrified by what she had decided she must do, and too horrified afterward when it was clear she had been wrong.

 

Zero.

 

Mist coalesced in her hands, forming into the shape of a long blade with stylized flames along its back edge.

 

Without a pause, Arisia flowed through a few katas, learned long ago from watching a master. Her stance shifted, first Wind, then Smoke, then Flame. She smiled, remembering her brother performing these same exercises every morning, all the while protesting that she was still too young to learn. She had joined him anyway, every morning, using whatever she had at hand as a "Shardblade." The elegant, flowing motions of the katas might look beautiful with a Shardblade in hand, but they were downright silly if you were instead holding a doll. She smiled at the memories, and dismissed them - and the Blade - before they could turn her mood dark.

 

They were out there - her brother's killers. She was sure of it. She had spent years searching for them, trying to find out who they were. In all that time, she had discovered a single clue - a symbol formed of three overlapping diamond shapes. She would find them. Her vengeance would come. Even if it cost her life, she would see it through. They would be coming. But she, she would be ready for them. She resumed her pacing.

 

Ten...

 

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Yes, I was one of the Shardblade wielders who killed Trelagist last night. Sorry, Trel! At least you've gotten your revenge with your deathcry?

 

I had been doing everything I could to keep it a secret that I had a Shardblade. I'm sure I was already on the Ghostblood's hit list, especially after discussing my plan. Now, I'm definitely a primary target. So much for trying to get them to think someone else had the blades, not me! I did plan to reveal information publicly in this Day turn that would help show my loyalties, but not the Blade. I don't want the Ghostbloods to get that second night kill. And, since they know who my heir is, they're now pretty much certain to get the Blade tonight or tomorrow night. I was talking with people privately, trying to stir up information before revealing what I knew, hoping something would slip because they didn't know how much I knew or who the Shardbearers were.

 

Well, I guess I might as well reveal more! At this point, it can't really hurt my plans any more than that deathcry did. I'm also the person who protected the Ghostblood's target last night. My Painrial is now out of stormlight and has to charge, so I can't protect anyone tonight.

 

Yes, I was two of the people on my list. And I know that another person on my list is no longer with us (well, not exactly, but sorta?), so that's down to three other strongly-indicated townies, one of whom might not know who they are (I'm not sure if the person I protected was informed they were attacked).

 

 

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EDIT: Oh, and also, Seonid, in your first post you speculate that the second Shardblade wielder refrained from using the Shardblade so they could use a different T1A item, but that's impossible. You can only hold a single T1A item at a time, so to use an item that isn't the Shardblade, the Shardbearer would have to ditch their Blade.

Edited May 6, 2016 by Nyali

[Seonid he/him]

Interesting - seems my trust in you was well-placed, Nyali.

 

To alleviate your worries, you can pass an item - gifting happens before everything but the Thief's action, so if you are really afraid of dying, you can give the person of your choice your Blade.

 

Macen, I didn't see that yesterday. I really need to stop talking without double-checking my sources. Carry on. I still think you're wrong about DC, though.

 

Nyali, who did you protect last night? The Ghostbloods already know that information, so I think that keeping it secret is not useful.

 

Finally, the second Shardblade holder could still be a Ghostblood. It could be Joe's Blade - he died N3, so last night (N4) would be the first time whoever got it could have used it. If it's a Ghostblood, they could have hit Trell to make us trust both Blade holders. They wouldn't have known that anyone else would have attacked.

 

I'm not saying they are evil, I'm just saying we can't assume they're good.

[DeathClutch19 he/him]

Apologies for the Inactivity, it's finals week and im in the middle of packing/moving so I really have had no time.

 

I'm putting my vote on Macen

I didn't waste a village lynch, you all wanted to lynch Trelagist who was good. I stopped that from happening and made the lynch between myself and Wilson who at the time I suspected the most. The duel helped me gain information and thus I crafted my Suspicion list.

[Macen he/him]

Apologies for the Inactivity, it's finals week and im in the middle of packing/moving so I really have had no time.

 

I'm putting my vote on Macen

I didn't waste a village lynch, you all wanted to lynch Trelagist who was good. I stopped that from happening and made the lynch between myself and Wilson who at the time I suspected the most. The duel helped me gain information and thus I crafted my Suspicion list.

 

So, let me get this straight. You submit a duel which effectively cripples communication about who we *would* be voting for. Luckily, someone decided to do the Orange votes, so we still got some communication out of that.

So, the reason you did this was so you could gather information to craft your suspicions list. Ok, fair enough - what information did you gather? Since you didn't' die, we have NO idea of your affiliation, so I can't take your list at face value:

 

This will probably be my final post...Once I die and you all see im good take a good long look at this list

 

Probably Evil:

Kas

AliasSheep

Elbereth 

Trelagist

 

Can't be sure:

Alvron

Macen 

Kynedath

Seonid

Twei

 

Probably Good: 

Wilson

Burnt

Nyali 

Zas

 

Good:

Deathclutch

 

Either give us your reasoning behind these suspicions. The only reason I would ever take "I think this person is bad" at face value is if the person saying it died and proved they were good. You used an entire day's vote cycle to prove nothing. All your duel did was waste 1 attack on a shardplate that would have killed the person we used 2 shardblade attacks to kill. So, basically you wasted 1 shardplate charge and 2 shardblade attacks (from the appearance, both were from Nobles). You couldn't have known you were going to wasted 2 shardblade attacks, but you knew you were going to waste at least 1 attack of some sort.

 

Basically, come up with the information you gathered that makes a noble kill and a shardplate charge worth it - or I'm going to consider you evil.

I realize after re-reading some things that the tone of voice in these posts I feel kind of like I'm attacking you personally. It's not that, I just think you are playing the game of an eliminator and trying to sow discord.

[Zas678 he/him]

If you mean that by "all of us" wanting to lynch Trel, you mean 2 people, than sure. Before your duel, most of the discussion was on the posibility of a thief, and on the plethora of Grandbow kill. Your statement above doesn't seem to be a real indicator of what the circumstances were. It sounds more like after-the-fact rationalization.

Which makes me suspicious.

 

Also, Lopen, I'd still like to hear from you. 

[Elbereth she/her]

I'm back! Mostly! Two of my three tests are done, anyway. Third tomorrow. Decided to take a break from studying to post.

They might have an Emotion Bracelet - it gives them an item scanning ability, which is useful. They likely did not start with an Alerter; but I given the number of Grandbows and artifabrians in this game, I suspect that at least one started with a Painrial and/or a Half Shard. It is also possible that one began with Plate. That would be odd, considering that their secondary win con is to acquire plate, blade, and soulcaster, but it's not an unthinkable proposition.

Why do you think they didn't start with an Alerter, exactly? I don't really understand that.

That both Shardblade users attacked Trelagist is an interesting conundrum. I am not quite willing to clear both of them - the Ghostbloods had as much reason to want Trel dead as we did. He was a known noble to them, and therefore a fine target. At the same time, killing the targets the village wanted them to gives a veneer of trust over the Shardblade user. No, I'm not going to clear the Shardblade users. I still believe it possible that Joe's Blade has found its way into the hands of our enemies.

While I think it's possible, I seriously doubt it, unless a Shardblade wielder claimed to someone else ahead of time and said they would be killing Trelagist. If that's the case, that person is definitely not cleared, and it'd be nice to know if that happened. Otherwise? There was a pretty high chance of a Villager targeting Trelagist, which would basically make the kill redundant for the eliminators, and telling someone later that they killed Trelagist wouldn't be particularly effective in making people trust the wielder. To my thoughts, anyway.

On a tangential note, trusting the Shardblade wielders and trusting the claims are two different things. It would be very easy for a GB to claim that they had a Shardblade and had made one of the kills, and each of the actual killers thinking they'd been the only other. Unless the two wielders got in contact, or one claimed (which would be fairly unwise, I think, at least publicly), no one would figure it out for a while. Is this scenario probable? No. But it's possible.

Macen, your vote for DC is interesting. The consensus yesterday was that both DC and Wilson were village. I didn't notice you dissenting then (though please feel free to correct me if I missed something). Also, I find it a strong probability that DC was the target of the Ghostblood attack last night, which should clear him. Someone was attacked but saved, and DC (by my count) had only taken a single attack on his Plate. I believe that he baited the Ghostbloods into attacking him last night, by pretending that his Plate was exhausted, thus wasting their attack. That gives me strong reason to trust him. I'd like to hear your suspicions.

I'd like to hear from Kynedath and Lopen, Stink, DC, Twei and zas. We have a lot of people that aren't saying much. Let's change that.

How did he bait the Ghostbloods into attacking him? His plate wasn't exhausted. That's obvious just looking at the writeups. There was never a person protected from a kill until this turn, so he hadn't taken a hit at night, and we hadn't lynched him during the day. So his Plate couldn't be shattered. You could argue that the Ghostbloods didn't notice, but I would prefer not to underestimate their intelligence.

Thanks. I always like it when people are wary of me. Makes me think they are constantly looking over their shoulder hoping to catch me sneaking up on them.

Not exactly, for me. More... self-conscious, when I think about you, aware that you're watching, but unable to do anything about it, and unable to see you in return.

@Seonid

DC being attacked would have been quite a bit of planning. I believe the prime reason for attacking him would have been the IKYK at the start of this game where DC kept heiring people. And, if it was carefully planned since then, then I must say, DC has planned carefully. In this case, they'd have liked to keep the loot to themselves by not letting DC die. So, here, I'd look at all the people who voted Wilson D4.

Otherwise, why would the Ghostbloods try to solve us of this confusion by killing one of the dissenters of the duel unless they wanted him dead immediately. So, if this is the case, I'd look at the people who voted for DC last day. They wanted DC dead... (I know it includes me, but I thought this might be worth mentioning. )

I know I'm asking us to look at all the people who voted in the duel D4, but that is my reading from this.

----------(5 minutes later)------------

Come to think of it, Seonid, you might be right. Why not take out a plate holder ASAP? It's like killing two birds with one stone.

I'm confused by basically everything here. Why would attacking DC take a lot of planning on the part of the GBs? Or do you mean to imply that DC's a GB and they did a WGG? Because that makes little sense, since he hasn't claimed he was attacked despite the opportunity to do so. And in that case, it still wouldn't take a lot of planning, since he does have Shardplate to protect him. And why do either of those options say you should look at people who voted for Wilson? If anything, I'd look at the people who voted for DC. The general consensus in thread, as far as I understood it, was that he had a Shardblade. At the very least, (if he's not an eliminator), he had much better chance of having a Shardblade than Wilson. And the GBs would want a Shardblade. So I'd expect them to have voted for the most part for DC.

And I think the GBs would want to kill either of the duelers. Because 1) both are guaranteed to have Shards which the GBs want, and 2) they're both fairly agreed upon to be Villagers. (And if Wilson's a villager, they'd particularly want to kill her for who she is, while it's well known that DC has multiple items and has been partly cleared for various things, I think.)

Oh, and if I opened a PM with you late last night turn, sorry for not responding before the end of the night turn. I meant to, but fell asleep unexpectedly early last night.

This brings up a question I meant to ask last turn. Why did you say you have a Spanreed in thread if you weren't going to open PMs with everyone? As I see it, the two ways to use a (permanent) Spanreed are 1) don't reveal that you have it and only contact a few people you trust not to be a thief or a GB trying to get rid of info-sharing, or 2) start a PM with everybody. Reason I'm saying PM everybody is because only PMing the people who ask for it eliminates the potential information from people who don't ask for PMs (particularly because the PMs you set up last night could be useful later down the line in ways you don't expect, and if you have another Tier 2 item PMing everyone in one night allows you to use that item instead of having to use a Spanreed again), and if you're asking for a PM (particularly if you usually don't), it paints a target on your head for the eliminators, because you're basically saying you have information but you dont' want to say it in thread.

I'm rereading the thread slowly, and should have an actual list of suspicions and stuff (which is why everyone's been suspicious of me, I know) by tonight or tomorrow. (Depends on how much more studying I decide to do for the physics subject test... )

Edited May 6, 2016 by Elbereth

[DeathClutch19 he/him]

Look you guys can lynch me if you want...honestly i'm good but it's cool

 

I don't have time to give you reasoning right now, so i'd rather die.

 

I was hoping to get double tapped during the night so I could die but no..

 

I'm just saying the village is losing and attacking me is not helping the cause. 

 

BTW Macen it's fine, I don't get upset over games like some people, I appreciate the the clarification though